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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: Bobert Date: 30 Mar 10 - 09:54 AM Oh yeah... I forgot to add "creationism"... So add that to the curriculum... Anything else??? B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: Jack the Sailor Date: 30 Mar 10 - 10:07 AM Air Pollution? |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: Bobert Date: 30 Mar 10 - 10:12 AM Not too sure about that one, Jack... I don't think that Texans care much about that subject, one way or another... Plus, with the prevailing winds it all ends up in Lousiana anyway... b~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: Bill D Date: 30 Mar 10 - 11:28 AM Let's be fair.... there are moderates...and even some liberals in Texas. There are some very reasonable, intelligent people in ALL states. Texas and some other Southern states simply have an excess of those who have narrow, insular attitudes and hype their own conservatism as if it were somehow fine print on the 10 Commandments. Some cannot distinguish between general pride in their home and culture and arrogant, belligerent attitudes where "anything WE decide to do is automatically justified". It is sad to see the continuing polarization of the country as some refuse to even consider the goal of "the greatest good for the greatest number" and keep insisting that THEIR opinions supersede the majority. There IS an important difference between the rules by which YOU live your own, private, life and what you try to impose on others. |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: Greg F. Date: 30 Mar 10 - 11:49 AM So add that to the curriculum... Anything else??? Compulsory football ? |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: Bill D Date: 30 Mar 10 - 12:04 PM "Compulsory football" with public prayers to Jesus before the game. (there have actually been court cases trying to get compliance with the law, but in some places it's actually dangerous to file a complaint.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: Sorcha Date: 30 Mar 10 - 12:13 PM Yea, let's just close ALL the military bases! And excuse me, but wasn't Texas a Sovereign Nation once, and they ASKED to join the US???? Just think, a passport to go to Texas! (and no more Texan Presidents either! This does have possibilities, folks) |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: ichMael Date: 30 Mar 10 - 07:41 PM The latest posts made me wonder why I'd engendered such hostility, so I went back to the beginning of the thread, and I'm glad I did. I saw the stuff about the Real I.D. Act and I added a mention of that to the letter I'll send out to my representatives tomorrow. It will be good for them to see an example of how nullification stopped a criminal federal action. Once again I must thank the Mudcat name-callers for keeping me on my toes. Your vitriol is being put to good use. Some of the vitriol seems a bit over the top, though. The persistent use of the term "redneck" is a bit disturbing. It alludes to skin color in a negative way, and I'm surprised to see it being used with such abandon on this forum. But it is being used, and since white people are referred to as "rednecks" here, should I be calling black people by something denoting skin color? And what about Hispanics? And Orientals? And should I use "redskin" when referring to American Indians? Advice on this would be appreciated. |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: artbrooks Date: 30 Mar 10 - 08:11 PM IchMael, redneck has been used twice in this thread - once by you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: Bobert Date: 30 Mar 10 - 08:17 PM Well, yeah, itchy, rednecks hate the term redneck unless they have a bigass decal on the back of the F-250 that reads "Redneck"... Then they pack into clubs to hear Jeff Foxworthy... But you have it ***wrong*** in claim,ing that anyone here, myself included, uses the term "redneck" interchangably with the term "white people"... That is wrong and you won't find it used that way but if you can make that statement and it goes unchallenged then I reckon that it makes yer side feel all smug about these eleitists musicians who think all white people are rednecks... Well, I for one use the term alot... But I know also know alot about rednecks... I live in a rural Virginia community where there are no shortage... Yeah, another rightie here has accused me persoanlly of being racist because I use the term... Hey, it ain't at all racist... Honky is racist... Nigger is racist... WOP is racist... Redneck ain't because it isn't used in place of "white people"... Heck I know lotta white folks and most of them ain't rednecks... Only the rednecks are rednecks and they earn their label and most of them wear it proudly... Redskin, BTW, is racist... I hate it that it is because I am a life long Washington Redskins fan but... ...yeah, the name needs to go... Maybe they could call themselves the Washington Rednecks??? Yeah, that would work... Hey, maybe they could combine football and NASCAR??? I donno??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: Bobert Date: 30 Mar 10 - 08:28 PM BTW, itchy... This entire idea of states being able to trump federal law has some very negative histroical connotations... I mean, even tho it goes back to the federalists debates of the very early 1800's and again by the Nullifier Party in the 1830's the most recent bout of it came in the 1950s with Brown v Topeka Board of Education and the 10 or so years following as Southern states fought to keep their schools segregated... I can't think of any other time since when there have been so many people, mostly -- you guessed it -- Southern and Midwestern are so eat up on states telling the federal government in essence to "Go fuck yourself 'cause we like to do things our own way".... So yeah, itchy, ya' kinda have to rmember where you are... This a folk musician website and in case ya' hadn't noticed about folks music, ahhhhhh, most of the people playin' it ain't excatly spring chickens... Translation: We remember Selam and Little Rock and those are times we don't, as a nation, need to revisit yet... ... from looking at angry white Tea Party gatherings and the the number hate groups that have sprung up in the last year it is apparent to Helen Keller that there are one heck of alot of rednecks that would be very happy with segregation and a return to Jim Crow anf they are out to try to make it happen by pushing for "states rights" (code for racism)... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: Amos Date: 30 Mar 10 - 08:28 PM Well, it was used more than twice but only by two people--Icky and Bobez. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: Jack the Sailor Date: 30 Mar 10 - 08:33 PM I don't think that ichie wants to talk with us, just at us. |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: ichMael Date: 30 Mar 10 - 11:01 PM Oh, I'd interact more with folks here, Jack, if y'all weren't so rude. When I see a pea-brain trying to butcher my handle, for instance, I don't even bother to read the post. I mean, that really is child's play. If you think that passes for cleverness then you're not ready to discuss serious issues. In your heart of hearts you liberals know you've been had. And you know that Rahm Emanuel and Barack Hussein Obama detest your weakness. They have no surprises and no terror in store for me, but you folks...you can't even face yourselves, much less them. I pity you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: Amos Date: 30 Mar 10 - 11:10 PM Ichy: You are a thoroughbred nincompoop, sir; you are arrogant, condescending, egotistical, and blinded by your own obsession to be right, make others wrong, and act indomitable while actually nullifying your own viewpoint with loads of imported bullpucky. Your paranoia is not interesting, nor are your pitying, but wildly delusional perspectives on others. Why not find a kindergarten or something where those childish rhetorical devices might still have some mileage on them? They don't impress anyone here. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: Jack the Sailor Date: 31 Mar 10 - 01:10 AM I don't think that Ichie realizes that I wasn't talking to him. |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: ichMael Date: 04 Apr 10 - 07:59 PM |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: mousethief Date: 04 Apr 10 - 10:32 PM I feel like a person waiting for a bus next to a street preacher with a portable PA system. |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: Richard Bridge Date: 05 Apr 10 - 10:40 AM I would have thought it beyond obvious that the current healthcare act is within the commerce provision of the constitution - US healthcare is commercial isn't it? Indeed that is its besetting vice. |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: artbrooks Date: 05 Apr 10 - 10:48 AM What? Logic? Heaven forfend! |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: mousethief Date: 05 Apr 10 - 05:39 PM Has Texas left yet? |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: Bobert Date: 05 Apr 10 - 09:03 PM I say, "Follow the money" and at the end of each you'll find someone righteously indignant about the federal government but is also on the federal dole... I mean, look at the Midwest... It is eat up with farm subsidies... The feds pour dollars all over that region yet where do alot of these so-called fed-haters from??? You guessed it... The Midwest... Really pisses me off... Cut off the farm subsidies that prop up that entire region and then the crybabies will really have something to cry about... Right now the Midwest is living high on the hog from the taxes paid into the federal government by the blue states in the Northeast and the west coast, states which don't fare as well as their red state counterparts in bigass wellfare checks reigning down on them... I mean, let's get real here... The loudest crybabies are the ones who are allready on the front teets and suckin' for all it's worth... So they want out??? Really??? What a joke... No, they have just gotten so used to be pampered byy the feds that they have gotten fat and lazy... Yeah, look at the obesity rates from state to state... There is an alarming correlation between red and blue states... There is also an amazing correlatuion between the amount of federal taxes paid in v. the amount of federal taxes coming back between red and blue states... Hey, if they want out??? Bye-dee-bye!!! Like I said, if that were to occur then I'd sell my farm and move to the new 'n vastly imnproved United States... You know, the one without the crybabies... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: ichMael Date: 09 Aug 10 - 07:15 PM Some excellent news on the states' efforts to keep the criminal federal government at bay. Missouri just passed Proposition C, saying no to the murderous Obamacare plan: Just under a million Missouri voters braved 102-degree heat Tuesday to cast ballots exempting the state's residents from Obamacare mandates. The verdict on the nationalized health care scheme could not have been more clear: More than 71 percent chose to tell the federal government to stop meddling with their personal health care choices. Missouri Sen. Jane Cunningham introduced the legislation that placed the Health Care Freedom Act before voters. This act nullifies any statute that attempts to "compel, directly or indirectly, any person, employer or health care provider to participate in any health care system." Obamacare's defenders insist the federal health care law trumps Proposition C under the U.S. Constitution's Supremacy Clause, which is ironic considering the utter disregard for constitutional authority that went into drafting Obamacare itself.... http://www.kansascity.com/2010/08/05/2132005/deaf-ear-no-longer-possible.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: State Sovereignty Resolutions From: Bobert Date: 09 Aug 10 - 07:43 PM Missouri??? Yeah, I'd expect that from the crybabiest state of all the midwestern crybaby states... They are allready extracting $2 of federal dollars for every $1 they pay in taxes... Fuck 'um... If they want to pull the heck out then don't let the door hit ya'll on the way out... BTW, anyone from Missouri wanta expalin how the US is gonna compete in the global economy when it spends 17% of it GNP for jack-shit health care compared to good health care in Europena countries that are spending 8 to 9%... Come on, all you Missourians... Come on and "show us" ya'll "show me-ers"... What??? Cat got yer toungue... Manditory!!! Horrors!!! Hey, while we are at dismantling a program that will cut into the 17% making US more competetive lets jst go all the way... No more taxes... No more drivers licenses... No more insurance... No more nuthin'... Just "Mad Max After the Thunderdome" and more "Mad Max After the Thunderdome"... Yeah, that's the American spirit... Anarchy, guns, chaos... Don't get no better than that...Bring it on... I got several boxes of sheels so I'm gonna get several of ya'lls before you get me and then someone will get you 'cause you used yer ammo up on me... Glory days... What a vision for America!!! Bring it on itchy... Might of fact, you can start with me... Hey, I gotta a little Mel Gibson in me... Plus I got some guns... Maybe you and me could just get the party going... Whaddayathink??? B~ |
