BS: Anthems-are-us

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From: Little Dorrit
Date: 19 Nov 99 - 06:21 PM

inspired choice McGrath

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: kendall
Date: 19 Nov 99 - 06:51 PM

I think Ian Robb could do a good job of writing an anthem for England, he did it with "Lady Di"

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: Wotcha
Date: 20 Nov 99 - 10:51 AM

While in Cornwall, I picked up a neat Cornish Anthem -- couldn't find it in the DT -- a celebration of fishermen, miners, and farmers ...

A few changes here and there, and you have an anthem for all of the preceding nations! Everyone eats fish, eats from a tin can, and ploughs the land.

BAZ, wot's the title??

Cheers, Brian

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Nov 99 - 11:02 AM

Dear Wots,

I eat only shellfish, most cans are no longer tin, and I don't plow anything except for turning under the occasional flower bed. I think you may have a good anthem here, but my question is, do you think I could sit down after about 3/8ths of it is played? Will the peanut guy sell me peanuts after that point?

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: Wotcha
Date: 20 Nov 99 - 11:08 AM

You'll need a pint of Scrumpy (Apple Jack) after hearing this treasure!

Cheers, Brian

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: CRANKY YANKEE
Date: 09 Mar 01 - 09:48 PM

I'D BE HAPPIER IF WE'D GET RID OF ALL THESE NATIONAL ANTHEMS AND JUST MAKE UP A TERRAN ANTHEM. IS THAT LIKELY TO HAPPEN? NO,BY SAGAN, NOT UNTIL WE DISCOVER INTELLIGENT LIFE ELSEWHERE IN THE MULTIVERSE AND NEED A SNAPPY SONG TO KEEP OUR PECKERS UP FOR THE FIRST INTERGALAGTIC WAR.

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Mar 01 - 10:05 PM

THANKS A LOT MA FAZOO!!! REALLY GREAT!!! BUT WHY ARE YOU YELLING???

................and what are you smoking anyway?............can I have some?

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: Amos
Date: 09 Mar 01 - 10:54 PM

I think the natiional sense of humor would be greatly advanced if we adopted "Good Old Rebel Soljer" as our national anthem. But it isn't really musshhhy enough. I just love yelling out that last line:

"An' I WON'T be reconstructed
An' I DO not tgive a DAMN!"

On the other hand, we could ride into the White House on "Candle In the Wind" or "Dream" or even "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes". That would be tending toward national honesty and cut out the war mongering. We could have a special one reserved for times and particpants of war, something based on football cheers. But for peace time, maybe "Gaudeamus Igitur" or even "We are poor little sheep who have gone astray". That would stimulate the economy, too -- their'd be a Maury's in every town across the nation!!

A

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Mar 01 - 11:19 PM

Amos, you got a really perverse mind Bro.......that's why I like ya'!

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: GUEST,Genie
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 04:08 AM

Bassen,
"Ja, Vi Elsker Dette Landet" is especially beautiful in Norwegian.
Genie

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: The Walrus
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 05:33 AM

How about one of the "Pomp and Circumstances" Marches (No.4?) "Then All Men Shall Be Free" - It has one charicteristic of most National Anthems.... I can't find anyone who knows more than one or two line (me included)

Walrus

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: GUEST,Genie
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 12:02 AM

Hey, folks,
The Star Spangled Banner does not have a huge range -- about an octave and a half. It's just hard to sing when done in unison by people with varying vocal registers. [I personally have more vocal trouble with "Spanish Eyes."]

There is another thread related to this. See "America, The Beautiful.

BTW, how come nobody mentions "Stars And Stripes Forever?" It's my favorite march ( and I do a mean rendition of the whole piece on the kasoo, if I do say so, myself).

Here are the main lyrics:

"Hoorah for the flag of the free,
May it wave as our standard forever,
The gem of the land and the sea,
The banner of the right.

Let despots remember the day
When our fathers, with mighty endeavor,
Proclaimed, as they marched through the fray,
That by their right and by their might she waves forever!"

Perhaps the lyrics could be updated to be a little less militaristic at the end, but I love the tune!

Genie

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: GUEST,Adolfo
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 08:05 AM

Interesting thread. I just thought you might like to know that we the Spanish are the only people in the world who whistle their tune as our National Anthem has remained without words to it for more than 25 years. We all wonder what to sing your anthem feels like. I've recently been to Wales and people there have grown extraordinarily fond of this song Yma o Hyd as a modern anthem. Some also say their new national song should be Men of Harlech. The same about the Irish? (Foggy Dew, Danny Boy...). Has anyone mentioned the former Soviet anthem? Delicious music. And...yes: sweet days when I used to stand up only when Gaudeamus Igitur was played.

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: GUEST,Annraoi
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 08:52 PM

I must admit to more than a passing fancy for the old Soviet Anthem. As for the Italian one ? Does it have an ending ? There is a site on the Net specialising in Anthems in both vocal and instrumentsl format. These can be downloaded and then burned onto a CD. Great fun. I intend using some of them as a "Music Round" in a quiz.
Annraoi

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 09:10 PM

How can you beat Stars and Stripes? America the Beautiful is prettily pastoral , Walzing Maltilda is like a We'll Meet Again but there is nothing that compares with the pathos and propoganda of "Arise ye prisoners of starvation..." This anthem has such a powerful orchestration. To hear the Russian anthem now is like hearing an orchestra tune up.

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: Jeri
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 09:41 PM

I think someone should write a generic national anthem, sort of like Lou & Peter Berryman's "Your States Name Here."

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: GUEST,Genie
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 10:13 PM

Jeri, What a great idea!

Genie

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: GUEST,allie kiwi
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 11:00 PM

LMAO

I've definitely come to appreciate this site since I found it yesterday. (BTW how do I get rid of 'guest' in my name??)

My favourite national anthems have to be 'A Soldiers Song' and 'The Star Spangled Banner'. perhaps it is because I can sing them? I laugh everytime I hear 'Advance Australia fair (although after the swimming at the last olympics I heard it far too often). go to any school in Australia and you'll hear the kiddies innocently singing 'Australians all are ostriches' instead of 'Australians let us all rejoice...' Which should be kept as the official version?

At the Commonwealth Games a few times back the tape deck or whatever broke down at the boxing aren and some kind gentleman saing 'Danny boy' for the victorious Northern Ireland competitor... it sounded fantastic.

But I give my vote for 'Your state's name here.'

Allie who has hideous proofreading skills

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: allie kiwi
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 11:23 PM

uh, forget my silly question about the guest thing... done it *blush*

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: Mikey joe
Date: 20 Sep 01 - 07:20 AM

Has anyone heard the revolting drivel - Irelands Call.It is sung before Irish Rugby Internationals. The North and The Republic play together as Ireland. Recently Phil Coulter was commisioned to compose an anthem for the IRFU and came up with this pile o shite.

IRELAND'S CALL
Come the day And come the hour Come the power and the glory We have come to answer Our country's call... From the four proud provinces of Ireland
(chorus)
Ireland, Ireland Together standing tall Shoulder to shoulder We'll answer Ireland's call.
From the mighty Glens of Antrim From the rugged hills of Galway From the walls of Limerick And Dublin Bay From the four proud provinces of Ireland
(chorus)
Hearts of steel And heads unbowing Vowing never to be broken We will fight, until We can fight no more... For the four proud provinces of Ireland.
(chorus)

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: GUEST,Brian
Date: 20 Sep 01 - 08:25 AM

About twenty years ago, while travelling round France I met an old Frenchman who remembered the troops coming back from the trenches singing the British National Anthem. He asked us to sing it for him, so we obliged. He looked puzzled. It wasn't the anthem he remembered. So we asked him how he thought it should go. For over sixty years, he'd thought was the British National Anthem was 'It's a long was to Tipperary'. Now there's a thought! It was a shame to have to disillusion him.

God bless him, I hope wherever he is now, there's someone there to sing 'Tipperary' for him.

Brian

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: GUEST,Genie
Date: 22 Sep 01 - 01:45 AM

Of course, there's the old version of "Oh, Canada," which was sung there when I lived in Toronto in the early 1970's. They ran out of lyrics and sang the phrase, "..we stand on guard..." five times within the first verse and chorus!
I understand that it has been updated with new lyrics to address that problem, but folks had a lot of sport in making fun of the old one.

Genie

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: DMcG
Date: 22 Sep 01 - 07:22 AM

Nobody seems to have mentioned that the second and later verses of the Britsh (English? UK?) National Anthem are so embarassing that no-one ever sings them. And the grammar of the first verse is hardly a great example for the kids ...

Subject: RE: BS: Anthems-are-us
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Sep 01 - 08:19 AM

Here's the Afghanistan National Anthem introduced in 1974. I've got an idea the Taliban don't use it though, not the kind of ideas they go for. Pity. The sentiments are pretty good, more especially in the second verse - "We want peace and brotherhood between the peoples of the world":

Become hot, become more hot,
You, the holy sun.
O sun of freedom,
O sun of good fortune.
We through the storm
Have come to the end of the road.
We have also traversed the paths of darkness,
Also the way of light.
The red road of victory,
The pure path of brotherhood.

Our revolutionary homeland
Is now in the hands of the workers.
The inheritance of lions
Now belongs to the peasants.
The age of tyranny has passed,
The turn of the labourers has come.
We want peace and brotherhood
Between the peoples of the world.
We demand more freedom
For all who toil.
We want bread for them,
We want houses and clothes.

This comes from this site, which aims to give the tunes of all national anthems, with the text and a translation, and a picture of the national flag. But I'm not sure how up to date it is - these things keep getting changed.