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BS: Nader is coming on Meet the Press now

Amos 24 Feb 08 - 10:01 PM
GUEST,Guest 24 Feb 08 - 10:04 PM
GUEST,Guest 24 Feb 08 - 10:07 PM
Amos 24 Feb 08 - 11:58 PM
katlaughing 25 Feb 08 - 01:09 AM
Riginslinger 25 Feb 08 - 10:28 AM
Bobert 25 Feb 08 - 11:19 AM
irishenglish 25 Feb 08 - 11:44 AM
Bobert 25 Feb 08 - 12:55 PM
irishenglish 25 Feb 08 - 01:04 PM
Bobert 25 Feb 08 - 03:46 PM
Don Firth 25 Feb 08 - 04:41 PM
EBarnacle 25 Feb 08 - 10:19 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Nader is coming on Meet the Press now
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 08 - 10:01 PM

Gigi:

It is gratifying to see my nickname has stuck! :D

Thanks very much for that recap of Nader's milestones. I am duly impressed and weaned from ignorance thereby. He has done much more than I knew of, and I have to respect what he has accomplished, and even more what he tries to accomplish.

You do get a little vicious from time to time, but when you speak straight, you're well worth listeiing to. Play on, homey.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Nader is coming on Meet the Press now
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 24 Feb 08 - 10:04 PM

[Haughty sniff]

Next I suppose you will claim not to have known that he was the first of the presidential candidates to have ever appeared on SNL, too.

1977. George Winston was the musical guest, it was still most of the original crew, and that awful Andy Kaufman also appeared.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nader is coming on Meet the Press now
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 24 Feb 08 - 10:07 PM

As host. I don't think I mentioned that. He hosted SNL in 1977, when the show was still worth a damn.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nader is coming on Meet the Press now
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 08 - 11:58 PM

Gee--you're cute when you get all haughty, didja know that?


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Nader is coming on Meet the Press now
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Feb 08 - 01:09 AM

there is no apostrophe in possessive "its"


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Subject: RE: BS: Nader is coming on Meet the Press now
From: Riginslinger
Date: 25 Feb 08 - 10:28 AM

unless it's a contraction for it is


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Subject: RE: BS: Nader is coming on Meet the Press now
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Feb 08 - 11:19 AM

Well, well, well...

Seems as if I am now cookied (no apostrophe) and still verty much happy to have Ralph back in the game...

He said it purdy well to Tim Russert yesterday when he said that even with him in the game that if the Dems can't win this one then they oughtta just fold up their tent...

That's about right...

Yeah, the Dems won in 2000 but folded their tent when it came time to fight for Florida... They had better have a plane full of lawyers sittin' on the tarmac at Dulles on election night just as the Bush folks did in 2000 when the Bush camp outspent the Gore folks $5 to $1 in lawyers in Florida...

The Dems also better have several planes filled with folks who are ready to land in a contested state and raise Hell...

I'm sure that Nader would tell them this himself...

BTW, just a sidebar... In 2000 I still was driving my '66 Corvair, you know the car that Ralph said was "unsafe at any speed" and it may have been the only Corvair in the country with a "Nader" bumper sticker on the back... LOL, but true...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Nader is coming on Meet the Press now
From: irishenglish
Date: 25 Feb 08 - 11:44 AM

So if Nader said that with him in the game and the Democrats can't win then they probably deserve to lose? Let me ask you this-When he sits back at home after the 2008 election, which side will he have less regret for winning-Democrats, or Republicans? Yes I know full well that he sees little difference between the two nowadays, which is why he is running. But which party will come closer to at least discussing the things on his agenda? Which party will attempt to get us out of this debacle in Iraq in a logical approach, which party will attempt to address this supposedly rosy economy that we have, which is not so rosy? Which party will attempt to get the U.S. back in good standing with the world again? I will say this so I will not be accused of ignoring it: Yes, the Democrats need a good kick in the pants, (so do the Republicans for that matter) in an effort to have some party unity. But as an American citizen, will Nader feel a more appropriate direction is happening with Obama/Clinton, or McCain?


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Subject: RE: BS: Nader is coming on Meet the Press now
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Feb 08 - 12:55 PM

Actually, if you really look at the complexities of getting US outta Iraq, John McCain would have the easiest time in terms of the "pure politics"...

Meanwhile, we need Nader to keep the message out front of the voters... He can be a very effective shill for progressive cuases without weighing down the Dems...

The Dems will win this with or without Nader if they don't blow it and Nader is not a deal killer for them... If anything, he makes it easier for moderates and swing voters to vote Dem... This ain't 2000 and this ain't Bore...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Nader is coming on Meet the Press now
From: irishenglish
Date: 25 Feb 08 - 01:04 PM

I agree that the Dems will win if they don't blow it, and I think the reaction to Nader running this time has, for the most part, been unexcited and underwhelming. In terms of Iraq, I don't think McCain has any kind of real exit strategy in mind. And I still say if the Dems are worried about progressive Democrats, then they need a delicate chiding of Nader, rather than an acceptance of his participation, which is what Obama said the other day-immense respect, but also a mild rebuke for muddying the "MUDCAT" waters!


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Subject: RE: BS: Nader is coming on Meet the Press now
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Feb 08 - 03:46 PM

No, McWar, doesn't have an exit stategy... But from a purely political view point he is the candidate that would get the least *heat* for pulling out of Iraq...

As for the Dems chiding Nader??? Nah, they need to barrel down on McWar and the upconming Swift-boating that the Repubs certainly have planned...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Nader is coming on Meet the Press now
From: Don Firth
Date: 25 Feb 08 - 04:41 PM

Before we met, my wife, Barbara, had a Corvair. She loved it!

Dangerous? Well, due to the engine in the rear, the Corvair was a little butt-heavy, but it's just a matter of knowing how to drive. Also, she said she was often able to tootle around easily on snow when other people were making do-nuts, bumping into things, and sliding into the ditch.

As my daddy (who, when he was younger, worked as a chauffeur) used to say, "The most unreliable part of an automobile is the nut that holds the steering wheel."

Nader did give many corporations a much deserved wedgie, but the idea that the Corvair was "Unsafe at Any Speed" was spurious.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Nader is coming on Meet the Press now
From: EBarnacle
Date: 25 Feb 08 - 10:19 PM

GiGi, You defined yourself at your pride in making two "100's" in one day. For most of us, it's about discussion, not keeping score or making nasty points, aka trolling.


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