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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 08:47 AM

Some say that grown men aren't supposed to cry.

I don't care...

The little boy bursting into tears when his Dad came out, would surely move the hardest of hearts.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: Rafflesbear
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 08:48 AM

Surely on this if on nothing else the entire human race is united


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 09:30 AM

Australia ABC24 has been a mostly non stop ad free coverage - just reached 12.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 10:48 AM

McGrath said, "Good news. The world needs that."

Two other items of good news recently: A ferry caught fire and nobody died. A five-year-old boy was lost in southern Missouri. 400 volunteers turned out and found him in a few hours, in a bean field.

The volunteers were a mixture of Mennonites and Air Force personnel from Whiteman AFB.
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Thanks for the updates on the miners.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 10:58 AM

It is going to be difficult for the miners and their families to settle into a normal life again once the media lose interest.

I read on the BBC that a few extra wives and girlfriends some with children turned up to greet the miners and it lead to some very unpleasant scenes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 11:03 AM

World-wide cooperation helping people in trouble.

What a refreshing and wonderful idea!


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 11:27 AM

15


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: Jack Campin
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 12:02 PM

Is it deep enough and have they been there long enough to get something similar to the bends?

No, despite what the self-proclaimed expert from "Howard University" said. The pressure change is less and slower than you get taking off in a modern airliner.

No mineshaft in the world is deep enough to give you the bends, even if you were shot out of it in a rocket.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: GUEST,mauvepink
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 01:43 PM

The last time I think any rescue attempt hit the world stage so widely was probably Apollo 13. This is looking like a most wonderful outcome borne out of great possible tragedy and strife.

Well done to all involved and good luck to all the survivors.

Personally I think the Chilean Government should put a ban on any of these men and their families being disturbed for at least 2 weeks in order to let them have peace and rest.

We have watched with interest and concern. As soon as they are up we have no right to know about them other than they are doing well. The world should allow them space to recover before getting the rest of what is hoped is a succesful end to the story.

Good luck and best wishes to them all and their families.

mp


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: gnu
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 01:49 PM

I just read about the extractions to this point. If that don't bring a tear to yer eyes...


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 01:51 PM

Lost some sleep last night. The BBC coverage (on our cable here in Calgary) is excellent.

That Pennsylvania company that designed and furnished the percussion drill should do well.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 01:59 PM

Won't do the people who supplied the sunglasses any harm either.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 02:29 PM

Don't be so f***ing cynical, McGrath.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 05:28 PM

It's just all good....people and companies from a number of countries co-operated in this rescue, and Chile has done a pretty good job of handling the logistics....and the president of Chile HAS stayed out there all night and greeted each one, no matter what you think about his motivation.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 05:31 PM

oh, also, I believe he has said that this mine will NOT reopen.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: Ed T
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 05:42 PM

Brings me back to the Springhill Nova Scotia coal mine disaster(s) those who survived and those who did not.

My hat off to all miners, worldwide.


the Dubliners


Springhill coal mine disaster


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: Ed T
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 06:02 PM

In my previous post, on Springhill there is a live TV broadcast from 1956. It is clip number 4.

Compare what we see today, on CNN BBC and others to live broadcasts then:Clip 4


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: ragdall
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 06:19 PM

Twenty-six up, seven to go. Can you imagine what it will be like for the last man standing alone in that mine waiting for the capsule to go up and come down again?

Oops, make that twenty-seven! Wonderful to watch good news for a change!

rags


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 06:22 PM

The 'last man' will be one of the rescue team... I hope they get the recognition they deserve.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 06:29 PM

BTW...if you have broadband and GoogleEarth, you can type in Copiapó, Chile and look up the valley and see the mine location....very bare & dry


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 06:34 PM

After the 33 there will still be three rescue workers to go up. And remember, they volunteered to go down that hole...


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 07:06 PM

One said that they were driving a truck and stopped it to look at a white butterfly that flew in somehow and then the mine collapsed and they say the butterfly saved them...una ________ blanca ..great song.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: ragdall
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 07:47 PM

Thirty up. Three plus two to go. The last two won't have been underground very long.

mg, are you suggesting a new song, Una Mariposa Blanca?

rags


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: Sorcha
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 08:08 PM

How did they decide who is next? Other than obvious medical conditions? I'm pretty damn impressed by this whole thing!


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: ragdall
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 08:33 PM

Thirty-two up, one miner to go. The TV news (CTV) is saying there are six rescue workers down there.

rags


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 09:02 PM

33 up - now just the 3 volunteers who went down ....


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: ClaireBear
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 09:05 PM

What a wonder to participate in this via Internet. Sometimes this technology leaves me breathless.

C


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: Don Firth
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 09:06 PM

Fantastic! Watching a live feed from Chile right now.

The last miner is up!

Nice to watch some really good news for a change!!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: skipy
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 09:09 PM

Wonderful! And grown men SHOULD cry when they have a reason or need too. Maybe it is the less grown, lacking feelings & soul that don't!
Great fete of engineering, well done to all the unsung heros who made it happen.
Skipy


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: ragdall
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 09:21 PM

First volunteer is on the way up. Five more to go.

rags


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 09:33 PM

Great story. Fantastic Rescue!
Kudos to BBC News TV for carrying the entire rescue from start to finish.
The BBC News, carried here in Canada on cable, is the best news service we have. CNN, etc, are pitiful by comparison.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: Charley Noble
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 10:54 PM

I like a happy ending.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 10:54 PM

Still going live on BBC from what I can tell...it's says it is live.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 11:09 PM

Only one rescue worker left to bring up.

Just by chance I finished reading "Shackleton's Boat Journey" by F. A. Worley, today. Near the very end, Shackleton and Worley were trying to return to Elephant Island to rescue their shipmates from the Endeavour after it was crushed by ice in Antarctica. After three attempts, Worley writes, "the Chilean Government came nobly to the rescue. They lent Shackleton the little steamer "Ylecho." And, finally, they were able, after 16 months on the ice, to rescue their fellow explorers of the 1914-1916 expedition. Seems Chile had some good karmic brownie points to redeem.:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 11:10 PM

Isn't it just stupendous! I feel like a party- but I'll have to wait until Friday. No problem- the wonderful feeling will last.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 11:34 PM

All Out, now, including rescuers!!! Yes, I feel like a party, too, Ebbie!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 11:42 PM

.. so, by now media savvy miners prepared for the inevitable live news camera frenzy
on the surface;

.. did the underground rescue worker team include a hair stylist ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners - All Out & Safe!
From: open mike
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 12:08 AM

hooray!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners - All Out & Safe!
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 02:57 AM

This morning I was about to search for youtube footage from the Chilean President, but I found myself first going into Facebook, and there I found the most moving piece of writing I've seen in a very long time.

It's from my dear friend, Gloria...who lost her beloved son, and only child, when he was killed by a drunk driver around 5 years back. Peter Thomas James was just 22 years old. She wrote it whilst watching the rescue of the miners...and I just wanted to share it with others..for all those who watched that incredible rescue and felt as Gloria did....their own searingly painful sense of loss, and their own deep knowledge of love.

'Just Once More'
I have been watching the rescue of the 33 miners from Chile and it has been so heartwarming and touching. But one rescue touched me more than I thought it would.

One young man was on his way up. Waiting for this twenty someth...ing, six foot something young man was his mother. She stood off to the side, in her place, wearing her hard hat and listening to instructions. All the while her face was saying something else, "give him to me". She stood there and with every inch of the rope that made it's way around the wheel, her heart could be seen in her face. Tears, just an eyelid away from falling, her hands wrapped in each other, wringing and whirling with anticipation. You could see her shaking her head yes when someone spoke to her but you knew she wasn't hearing a word they were saying. Her heart was saying, "not now please, just let me see him." This woman who knew this young man before he was born, cared for him, raised him, loved him, waiting now for a glimpse of the only thing in this world that means anything to her.

The time arrived and the top of the capsule was emerging. She was on edge and her body kept making moves toward it, towards him, and yet she held herself strong and in place. The last thing she wanted to do was to do anything wrong now that he was so close. And then magic!!!! Out into the fresh air of the world, HER world just came into sight. She watched as the rescue workers undid every strap that held him in, every inch that kept him safe and all the while every tear in her heart was waiting to touch him. She watched just like she probably did on the day he was born when the doctors checked him out for the first time. Making sure everything was perfect, she now stood to watch and wait to make sure everything is perfect, again. Not one mother can ever forget that amazing moment when your child is first placed in your arms and now she was waiting to have that magical love happen once again. It did. Her son fell into her, reached for her and there she was! She held him, rubbed his back, hug after hug after hug, tear after tear after tear. I felt each one, knew each one, and with each happy one for her, my heart broke, even though I was so happy for her. I have waited so long for my, "just once more". I actually looked at the television and said out loud, "I know, I know". After a few thank yous and hugs from the rescue workers her son was placed on a stretcher to be brought to the hospital just to make sure he is fine. As they were rolling him away, she came out of nowhere and touched his body a few more times and then her hands went up to his face. You could hear her heart begging, "just once more, just once more, please before you take him, just once more". My heart is filled with love for this mother, my eyes are filled with tears, and my soul is filled with words, "just once more, just once more, please before you take him, just once more.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners - All Out & Safe!
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 04:12 AM

Lizzie, this lady clearly needs to get over the death of her son, probably best she sees a therapist as this isn't a normal grief reaction. Did you tell her there is no parallel in this case and the death of her son. Help her move on and not to make comparisons with other situations.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners - All Out & Safe!
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 04:13 AM

Well done to all those who made it possible to get the miners out.
Isn't it nice to see everybody pulling together to help each other.
The miners looked remarkably well considering. I know there are knock on medical issues, but to see them all walk out of the capsule smiling, hugging, talking etc, was just amazing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners - All Out & Safe!
From: I don't know
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 04:18 AM

Guest Lizzie Cornish, thank you for that posting it is a moving piece. Thank god all the miners (& rescuers) are all out. May they have some quality time with there families out of the media glare before deciding on there futures. Hope everyone is as well as they appear & none suffer to much mentally from the ordeal. A big thank you to everyone who helped save them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners - All Out & Safe!
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 07:30 AM

It doesn't use words, it doesn't need to, but I think this BBC piece pretty much says it all. (Hope it's available for those outside the uk)

Click here


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners - All Out & Safe!
From: Charley Noble
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 08:25 AM

It will be a challenge for the ballad composers, a long ballad but with a happy ending!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners - All Out & Safe!
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 08:38 AM

Lizzie, thank you so much for sharing that.

I know exactly what she means. Would you or she mind if I share that beautiful piece of writing (and of her heart)?

Patsy, dear, there are parallels in every lost truly felt. That is where our com-passion comes from.

Dani


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners - All Out & Safe!
From: GUEST,crazy little woman
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 10:53 AM

The shaft was 2300 feet deep

It curved, but not enough to keep the capsule from making it up and down. Special equipment was used to try to keep it straight.

The top 180 feet of the hole was lined with steel to keep the hole open.

The driller was called in from Afghanistan because 'he is the best in the world' according to his supervisor.

The driller worked for 33 days straight. When there was an unexplained pop sound close to the end of the hole, he said he thought it was his heart giving out.

I don't watch TV. Tell me, did these extraordinary efforts get any attention or credit at all? Doesn't sound like it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners - All Out & Safe!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 10:59 AM

This rescue has been a marvelous accomplishment by the Chileans.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners - All Out & Safe!
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 12:12 PM

Lizzie, I've had tears running down my cheeks from the beauty of your friend's posting. Thanks for sharing it.

Patsy, you may have good intentions in what you wrote, but what I read in Lizzie's friend's post was a strong sense of empathy and compassion, as noted above, one mother to another. What parent who has lost a child, wouldn't hope for "Just Once More?"


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners - All Out & Safe!
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 12:14 PM

"Would you or she mind if I share that beautiful piece of writing (and of her heart)?"

Dani, by all means, please do, and....thank you for understanding. x


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Subject: RE: BS: Chilean trapped miners - All Out & Safe!
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 01:04 PM

I hadn't heard about the Afghanastani driller but they surely would have a lot of expertise in that mountainous country I would think. What we heard off and on was that it was a driller from Colorado...they could have taken turns of course. All that engineered it and accomplished it are magnificent in my book. mg


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