BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 01:24 PM

Beccy, I have some bad news for you.

I am not a liberal. You've learned Limbaugh's definition of a liberal. To "Rush" and apparantly to you it just a label, a perjoritive to be used in arguement. By calling me that you thoroughly prove my point. Which is that Limbaugh debases debate. He labels, stereotypes and insults. He is indoctrinating others.

The "opinion" on Estrada on Limbaugh's website is racist. Rush knows, and I'm sure that you know that the Democrats in the senate are not opposing him because of his race. The way he bring race into the arguement is gratuitous and devisive. Or is it just another example of his "humour".

Beccy, Listening to both sides of a debate so that you can pick hole in the "other" side is not being open minded. Labeling someone instead of talking about the merits of their agrument is not debate.

Having a "friend" who is a "liberal" doesn't mean a person isn't close minded any more than having black friend is proof that a man is not bigotted.

I didn't say this:
"The way you insist that half of his listening audience is racist and abusive to women?"
Neither did Nicole, you did. It is a common Limbaugh tactic. Say that your "oponent" said something outraegous and argue that instead of the point.

Can you prove this? It seems like one of the racist things that Limbaugh would say. Are these you words or his?
" but Miguel Estrada doesn't count, because a nifty special interest group deemed him "Not Hispanic enough.""

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Beccy
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 01:26 PM

Yeesh, Carol... Do you make fun of anything? Privately? Or with your hubbie or significant other? Or with your sister/brother/mother? Do you laugh at or get annoyed by, oh- say, people talking on cell phones? Or people who drive like maniacs? Or people who cut in line in the grocery store? Or people who pass gas in the library and then go to a different set of stacks? Everyone has some little quirk. Mine is that I'm a linguistically inclined people watcher. Therefore, I notice colloquialisms and linguistic ticks readily. It amuses me to discuss them. People amuse me. I am sure that I provide my share of fodder for laughter. I sure hope so! You have to be able to laugh in life. Along with flexibility, it's a benchmark of mental health. End of story.

I do my poking fun with my family. Rush does his on a microphone. Those who wish to listen do. Those who do not wish to hear it tune to something else.

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: CarolC
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 01:38 PM

No, Beccy. I don't particularly enjoy making fun of people. I find the quirkiness of people delightful, and I enjoy their humanity, but people making fun of others just makes me sad.

Sometimes I find people annoying, but that's not a source of amusement for me.

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: CarolC
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 01:47 PM

You have to be able to laugh in life. Along with flexibility, it's a benchmark of mental health. End of story.

This is certainly true. But getting one's jollies out of making fun of, and at the expense of others is most definitely not a benchmark of mental health.

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 03:02 PM

IMO, here is an interesting book review which contains much about Rush: click here. Here's the last paragraph:

This book should be required reading for every registered Republican. I think perhaps Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot (and Other Observations) should even be an official textbook for America's high schools and colleges. I have theory that most people start out as "knee-jerk" liberals or the conservative equivalent. These people don't truly understand issues. If they are never exposed to anything but ten-second sound-bites, they remain uninformed. But when someone comes along who adds depth to these people's knowledge on issues, they become informed and more moderate in their views. This country needs lots more informed moderates, and Al's book might be a good tool to help meet that need. What Limbaugh claims to do for "knee-jerk liberals", Al Franken does for the conservative equivalent. I highly recommend this book, especially if you want to be more informed about the political landscape and need a good laugh at the same time.

As for Limbaugh being a racist, these are direct quotes, emphasis is mine:

In the early 70's, Limbaugh once told a black caller: >B>"Take that bone out of your nose and call me back." A decade ago, after becoming nationally syndicated, he mused on the air: "Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"

In 1992, on his now-defunct TV show, Limbaugh expressed his ire when Spike Lee urged that black schoolchildren get off from school to see his film Malcolm X: "Spike, if you're going to do that, let's complete the education experience. You should tell them that they should loot the theater, and then blow it up on their way out."

In a similar vein, here is Limbaugh's mocking take on the NAACP, a group with a ninety-year commitment to nonviolence: "The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies."

Really funny, huh?:-(

kat

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 03:08 PM

This is a VERY interesting read: Metaphors We Ought Not Live By: Rush Limbaugh in the Age of Cognitive Science
by Tim Rohrer, Greg Johnson, Tim Adamson and Howard Lam.

Their Introduction reads:

Rush Limbaugh is one of the most influential voices on the American political scene today. While many regard his voice as polemical and bombastic, he nevertheless has a primary role in formulating the metaphors which shape much of the new Republican Congress' policies. Though many dismiss his rhetoric as simplistic and intellectually facile, he clearly taps deep into the American psyche with his visceral language. Viewed from the perspective of metaphor analysis, Limbaugh's rhetoric is brilliantly constructed in its use of culturally entrenched metaphors, which resonate with the emotional feelings of his listeners and readers. In this paper, we investigate Limbaugh's use of metaphor in his recent book, The Way Things Ought To Be.[1] We sum up by arguing that Limbaugh's metaphors cohere in his theory of human nature and a vision of a society built around the traditional nuclear family. We conclude that liberals are not yet articulating their own version of human nature and offering some initial thoughts as to what that might entail.

Their conclusion (with a LOT in between)

In short, we feel that the real challenge is to articulate a different theory of human nature. Such a theory would have to appreciate sexual difference while maintaining flexibility in gender roles; it would have to establish that compassion and teaching are inseparable; it would have to establish a view of nature that is dialogic rather than law-like; it would have to stress that negotiation and nurturance are more important skills than iron wills and denial. Liberals need to recover fatherhood without succumbing to conservative paternalism. If we look to American history, precisely a century ago the political debate was between liberalism and paternalism[3] --that might be a redefinition of the debate which would reinvigorate liberalism.

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Kim C
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 03:55 PM

Public Service Announcement! The word "ax" comes from Middle English, and can be found in the writings of Chaucer. A lot of Southern folk, black AND white, say it. Centuries ago, it was proper English; somewhere along the way, it was replaced by "ask," and people who used "ax" instead were considered ill-educated.

Resume regular conversation. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Beccy
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 03:57 PM

JackTS- The words are my paraphrasing of a direct quotation from the Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund. They said,

"Mr. Estrada...has not demonstrated interest in or any involvement with the organized Hispanic community or Hispanic activities of any kind."

Since I'm assuming you'll want to verify that, follow the clicky... The paragraph you want is about 1/3 of the way down on the second page of the PDF document dated January 17, 2002.

Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund.

Now- onward and upward. Albert Einstein said that one of the biggest indicators of insanity was doing the same thing over and over... and expecting the results to change. It's awfully fun trying to convince you that I'm not a small-minded, racist pig and all, and as much as I'd love to continue this ad nauseum, I have 3 kids who need some attention and dinner.

In the words of Robert Frost, "...I have promises to keep. And miles to go before I sleep..."

Beccy

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Beccy
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 04:00 PM

One more thing.

Kim- Are you serious? That is so neat! I guess that one's out the window now. Ah, etymology!!!!!

Back to shutting off my computer, now.

:-)

Beccy

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Beccy
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 04:14 PM

Okay, Carol... maybe I'm not saying what I mean correctly. I don't sit around saying, "What a loser- did you hear the way that moron said 'ax' instead of 'ask'?"

I use linguistic idiosyncracies in impersonations- one of my particular talents. Do you think Rich Little is cruel when he does impersonations?

I am a writer. When I look at people, I mentally register a description of their appearance. When I am telling my husband what happened during the day, or describing to him a news spot I heard, I describe their appearance in addition to the interaction so that he gets a "full color, in person" idea of what happened. An example of describing a person who I saw in the store to my husband... "A mighty heavy bleach-blonde woman with a shopping cart overflowing with hamburger, butter, and soda ran up my heels, turned and growled, 'Watch where you're goin', toothpick.'" Or maybe, "There was a tall, gangly young man stocking the shelves in the olive aisle. He obviously did not expect anyone up that aisle, because the air was thick with methane. He turned beet red from his clean-shaven, kid face to the tips of his ears." (Incidentally, both of these things really happened when I went to the store 2 hours ago...)

I'm really and truly done now... I'm not an ogre, Carol- I just like to talk about things I observe in people.
Augh- I have to go heat up my grill and steam some rice. I REALLY am shutting off the computer this time. :-)

Beccy

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 04:24 PM

Beccy

I read the paragraph you quoted. Is it really fair to say that the reason they oppose him is that he "is not hispanic enough" Another Rush tactic is taking things out of context. Still another is associating a statement of one group with the actions of another. Do you really think that that group speaks for the US senate?

I don't think that you are a small minded bigot. I certainly didn't call you are a pig. But you do seem to be incapable of rational discussion. I blame Rush Limbaugh for that.

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 04:28 PM

Aw Beccy, Carol isn't all that bad really.....Hell, she at least tolerates my accounts of Paw, Cletus, Buford, and the Reg boys! I think Rush would tend to look down on them instead of seeing them as folks who had slipped through the cracks in The American Dream.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: CarolC
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 04:40 PM

Yeah, Beccy! I even tolerate Spaw!

;-)

Beccy, I have not suggested that you are any sort of an ogre. I was simply telling you that I don't understand the practice of making fun of people, and I don't find it amusing.

I guess the litmus test of whether humor about other people is amusing to me or not is whether or not it belittles them or is done disparagingly. I'm not in a position to tell you whether or not you are doing those things when you do whatever it is that you find amusing. Only you can make that determination. And only you can determine whether or not it's ok to do that according to your value system.

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: DougR
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 04:46 PM

Rick: Miguel Estrada is a highly qualified attorney whose nomination is supported fully by the American Bar. It is true, as someone else said on this thread, that he has not been a judge, but if that was the qualification required there probably would not be very many judges today. Chief Justice Rhenquist, was never a judge before he was appointed to the Supreme Court by Richard Nixon. I'd venture a guest that many lawyers who never served as a judge have been appointed to the federal bench.

The Democrats object to Miguel Estrada because they suspect that he is too conservative. That's the sum of it.

When his nomination was presented to the U. S. Senate for confirmation, he received more than enough votes for confirmation from Republicans and some Democrats. However, since the Democrats have been involved in a filabuster attempting to block his appointment, it took more than a majority vote to break the filabuster and confirm him. Therefore he was not confirmed at that time. I'm sure the Republicans will not abandon him for the present anyway.

It's really rather simple. The Republicans want to see courts presided over by judges who share their political philosophy, and the Democrats want to see the courts presided over by judges that espouse theirs.

If Estrada is confirmed, he will be the first Hispanic appointed to the second highest court in the land. The Democrats fear that if he is confirmed the next move by some Republican president will be to appoint him to the Supreme Court. That to them would be disastrous.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: CarolC
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 04:51 PM

It's really rather simple. The Republicans want to see courts presided over by judges who share their political philosophy, and the Democrats want to see the courts presided over by judges that espouse theirs.

DougR, I think that's just about the most balanced and fair minded thing I've ever read from you.

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: DougR
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 05:13 PM

Carol C: I'm shocked! I'm ALWAYS fair and balanced! I just don't always post things you agree with that's all.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: CarolC
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 05:32 PM

Sure, DougR. If you say so.

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 06:27 PM

Doug I have been given to understand that he has refused to subnit himself to the regular process of confirmation. Is that so?

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: DougR
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 02:04 AM

Nope, Jack, I don't think so. From what I have heard, the Democrats were invited to submit any questions they wanted answered to the White House and they were assured that Estrada would reply to them. According to what I heard on a news cast, not one question was submitted.

In fact, from all the reports I have heard and read, the Democrats on the Judicial Committee were expecting him to hypothocize on possible cases that might come before him were he confirmed. He refused to do so because the situations were only hypothetical. It is my understanding that other candidates have not been subjected to that.

I think it's purely political.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Big Mick
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 07:18 AM

Wrong, Doug. the regular process of confirmation includes coming before the committee/Senate to answer questions. This candidate, and this White House, want to control the questions and where they are received. You, yourself said they want the questions submitted to the White House. Why should any Senator, Republican or Democrat have their questions screened? And when they object, they are vilified as being "obstructionist". More from the most dangerous White House in recent memory.

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: catspaw49
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 07:49 AM

Geez Doug......C'mon now............

In a 1997 speech to the Federalist Society, the driving force for right-wing activism on the federal judiciary, Hatch argued that in connection with nominees with "limited paper trails," the Senate should be "more diligent and extensive in its questioning of nominees' jurisprudential views."

So what happened to that strong stance (during the Clinton administration) from the biggest honcho on the Judiciary Committee? I pray the senate debate becomes as heated as I believe it can be and it melts the rubber stamp that Orin Hatch seems to have recently found more efficient than diligent and effective questioning by the committee.

And yeah, I already wrote both of my senators even though they are both party line guys.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Kim C
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 10:08 AM

Ax Etymology

This article says "ax" can be heard in the speech of New Englanders! That's a new one on me. 'Course I haven't been up there, and wouldn't know. It is used pretty commonly in the South, though.

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Art Thieme
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 11:27 AM

J. Marra,

If you are the J. Marra with the lovely voice who rode these musical rails with me/us in the 70s, well, hello there, kid. It has been a long old road. It's good to know we've both not yet found the end of it.---------- If you ain't her, well, never mind...

I used to listen to Rush Limburger just to know where the enemy was coming from. Then the stench of his smegma and toe cheese got so bad that I threw up every time I listened in to the old human fart spewing his hatred onto the American airwaves in the name of his kind of loyal opposition.

Knowing he is still there, though, is like knowing there are assholes willing to end their lives to take down the World Trade Center towers while causing 3,000 innocents to die.

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: DougR
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 12:09 PM

Mick: I do believe that Estrada has already appeared before the committee. I don't believe that his refusal to answer hypothetical questions is the first time this has occurred before the committee.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Beccy
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 02:42 PM

Art- Are you suggesting that because people listen to Rush Limbaugh that they are willing to kill?

Beccy

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Art Thieme
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 03:52 PM

No, but they sure went after Bill and his supporters with that in mind from where I sit.

Art

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: DougR
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 04:06 PM

With murder on our mind, Art? Come on! I heard a lot of criticizm, but I never heard anybody say Clinton should be murdered for diddling around with Monica in the Oval office pantry.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Beccy
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 04:44 PM

Well, Doug- I guess that's two of us hard-core conservatives who didn't entertain the notion of murdering Bill Clinton because of his sad little tryst in the Oval Office. Do you think it's possible that there are a couple more of us who aren't willing to commit bodily harm as punishment for perjury???

Beccy

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: DougR
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 05:09 PM

Well, Beccy, I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 06:46 PM

Beccy! Doug! What has Limbaugh done to your brains? Stop listening to him before you minds turn completely into mush! It is not too late! Resist the dark side! Do not become "pod people"!

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: DougR
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 01:12 AM

Jack; splain yourself. We were both replying to Art's post. Did you read it?

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 09:06 AM

Arghhhhhhh! they got ART! He's now a POD PERSON!

can I have yer Martin with the eagle on it?

Rick

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 02:15 PM

You know danged well that Art didn't say Clinton should be murdered.

Art used the terrorist reference to show how disgusted he is with "Rush". It quite over the top. It is frantic hyperbole but it is patently not an accusation of murderous intent. I think once he used the phrase "human fart" he was clearly indicating that he wasn't intending to be taken literally.

You just said what you said to ridicule him. Seems like something Rush would do to me.

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: GUEST,Claymore
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 04:55 PM

Ahh, I've been away too long...

CarolC: I would like to re-examine your response to Beccy at 3/11 12:14 (yours at 12:19) and remind you that I've heard you mock people who pronounce nuclear, "nucular"....

And the funniest news I heard the other day while driving in Florida was the fact that Al Franken was being offered tons of money to create an opposing radio show for the liberal media, and claimed he wouldn't do it "Because Rush reaches an audience I can't get, those who own cars and who drive to work in the morning". This after Franken wrote CarolC's favorite book "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot". I guess when it really counted, Franken folded...

(And incidently, I probably have listened to Rush maybe ten minutes in my whole life... I have an extremely short drive and haunt NPR news on the way).

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: CarolC
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 05:02 PM

No, Claymore, you've heard me criticize them. Big big difference.

...and - do you really want to be getting into this kind of reportage of one another's behavior in the 3D world here in the Mudcat? I have plenty of ammo of my own I can lob in your direction (inconsistancies and hypocracies and all that). It could get messy.

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: CarolC
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 05:04 PM

This after Franken wrote CarolC's favorite book "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot". I guess when it really counted, Franken folded...

You're skating on thin ice with this one, Claymore. Like I said, this could get messy. Think carefully about whether or not you want to continue in this vein.

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Art Thieme
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 06:39 PM

Please, CarolC, don't over-spin my above post. What I said pretty much was: Knowing he (Rush) is still there corrupting the truth is like knowing there were assholes willing to take out the twin towers"--- and kill 3,000 innocents.

I see Limbaugh's attempts to use the power of the media to DESTROY Bill Clinton --- the duly elected President of the United States --- as shameful and dastardly and destructive of fre elctions as the acts of the asshole lunatics who took those planes into the WTC. In using his world-wide megaphone to spread his venom in order to manipulate Republicans and fence-sitters into joining his crusade simply because a guy got a blowjob from a young girl, well, it was just to get Clinton impeached and only goes to prove the sorry vindictive and litigous state this nation has descended to. ----------- Then came the theft of the last election. Then came the ongoing destruction of huge civil liberty aspects of the U.S. constitution in the name of vengeful belt-tightening but is actually simply a continuation of the destruction of any remaining vestage of anything leftist, and therefore communistic, in the eyes of capitalistic interests----interests who allowed Enron and Arthue Andersen to happen while nobody gets hauled in after stealing billions of dollars. Stealing the election is a parallel theft that exhibits audacity rarely found in societies not the victims of bloody revolutions.

It is nothing more than the rising from the ashes of big time FASCISM.

Oh, you thought that died with hitler? No way! Hitler was just stupid. He fought the U.S. and the Soviet Union. That was a no win situation. He should've let the USA and Russia destroy each other in the 1940s if he'd been smart. But his ideas were lurking in the rubble piles of World War 2------and are just now raising their heads in the name of NATIONAL SECURITY while Nazis surface all around us and antisemitism is made to, unbelievably, be a viable choice in some sad circles. We've been to 1984 and back while tripping through Lewis Carroll's Looking Glass.

Limbaugh is just the glib mouthpiece. But for all his size, he's only the tip of this dangerous iceberg.

Just one guy's opinion.

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: CarolC
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 06:52 PM

Art, what are you talking about? I have not responded in any way at any time to any of your posts to this thread.

Now I'm getting criticized for supporting Rush Limbaugh? Do I have a "kick me" sign stuck to my back today or something?

I'm having a very surreal day today.

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 06:59 PM

What does "buys advertising for" mean? Does it mean advertises on, or sells advertising space to, or gives money to help buy adverts for, or what?

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 07:31 PM

Art mentioned Arthur Andersen above. I got a shock last night when a show on public television mentioned them as a sponsor. Is Arthur Anderson still in business?? You'd think they'd have lost all their customers. I'll have to do some checking.

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Art Thieme
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 08:32 PM

Carol,

I am sincerely sorry if I misread your post. I wasn't intending to advocate killing anybody though. That is definitely not me.
Time to watch a movie I think.

Art

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: CarolC
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 08:53 PM

I don't know which post you are referring to, Art, but I can assure you that none of your posts to this thread have elicited any sort of response from me whatever (except the one where I asked you what you were talking about).

Are you sure you're not thinking of something that was posted by someone else in this thread? The only people I can see who responded seriously to your post were Beccy and DougR.

Enjoy your movie. What are you watching?

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Troll
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 10:20 PM

Beccy and Doug, I'm still here.
CarolC, sometimes it's hard to see the difference between criticism and ridicule. Claymore pointed out that you- in his opinion- had ridiculed someone for mispronouncing "nuclear" and you threatened to come back with a list of his transgresions.
If you did that, would that exonerate you?
It looks to me like"Ok, I did it once but you do it all the time so you are worse than me. So there!"
If my interpretation is correct, your attitude seems a little third-gradeish. If I'm wrong, well, it isn't the first time.

troll

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: CarolC
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 10:25 PM

The difference is this, troll. I don't find it amusing when people like Bush mispronounce words like nuclear. I find it annoying. So I admit to being small minded enough to care about that, but I do not find it amusing. And not only was Claymore incorrect in what he said, he was telling an untruth. You don't want to go down this road with either Claymore or me. It would be a big mistake.

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 10:33 PM

Carol, what's with the threats?

I read somewhere the other day that Eisenhower also pronounced it the wrong way. Much as I detest the shrub, maybe he just can't help it, like some people have a speech impediment, maybe he just can't make the right sounds, seriously.

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Troll
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 11:00 PM

Yes, Carol. Why are you threatening me?
If it is your intent to bring up my position on the Palestinian problem and our disagreement about that, fire away.
If you want to call me heartless, stupid, inconsiderate, uncompassionate, and/or without humanity, go for it.
What on earth do you think that you could say- and furnish proof of- that would shut me up or put me in my place or whatever your threat was supposed to be for.
Your power over me and what I think OR say is ZERO. I observe the conventions and I'm polite most of the time, but don't bother to threaten me. For a threat to be effective there must be consequences and, as far as I can see, you have none.

troll

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: CarolC
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 11:12 PM

You misunderstand me, troll. I'm not threatening you.

Here's the deal. Claymore is one of my old boyfriends. I think it's a mistake for people who have been involved with each other like that to follow one another around taking shots at each other in a forum like this one. It can only lead to a lot of bad feelings all around. I try to stay away from things Claymore says that I remember differently, and I think it would be a good idea for Claymore to stay away from things I say that he remembers differently.

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Troll
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 11:49 AM

Nuff sed.

troll

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Kim C
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 12:54 PM

So, why isn't anybody picking on Sean Hannity? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: GUITAR CENTER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH
From: Ebbie
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 12:55 PM

I found a pretty good use for Limbaugh: Rush Bush, Push, 2004