The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass

Subject: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Dickey
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 01:45 AM

The man who would be President and avoid all this trouble:

The first time I had proposed a snatch, in 1993, the White House Counsel, Lloyd Cutler, demanded a meeting with the President to explain how it violated international law. Clinton had seemed to be siding with Cutler until Al Gore belatedly joined the meeting, having just flown overnight from South Africa. Clinton recapped the arguments on both sides for Gore: Lloyd says this. Dick says that. Gore laughed and said, "That's a no-brainer. Of course it's a violation of international law, that's why it's a covert action. The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass."...

http://books.google.com/books?id=8kdIMPo0ZE0C&pg=PA144&lpg=PA144&dq=the+guy+is+a+terrorist+go+grab+his+ass&source=web&ots=fw08IRq42n&sig=OUFAamXTu_I0gjKmi2Bd4vSUhCg

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Dickey
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 01:52 AM

Oops, should have been under BS.

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Peace
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 01:52 AM

All the lucidity of yer average rock. Good thinkin' there, Dick.

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Peace
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 02:15 AM

OK. Mudcat's main Dick has started a thread for some as-yet-to-be-discovered purpose. OH, I GET IT. They are Democrats! Hey, GOOD one Dick. YOU are a genius.

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Peace
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 02:28 AM

With love, just for you, Dick.

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Peace
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 02:34 AM

Your namesake.

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Peace
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 02:35 AM

Gosh, golly, gee, but THEY are Republicans. What a coincidence. WOW!

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 07:41 AM

I'm sure there's a point in there somewhere. Perhaps following a few of the basic principles of written communication would allow others to see what it is.

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Dickey
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 09:28 AM

"4. Weapons of Mass Destruction

The United States shall give the highest priority to developing effective capabilities to detect, prevent, defeat and manage the consequences of nuclear, biological or chemical (NBC) materials or weapons use by terrorists. (U)

The acquisition of weapons of mass destruction by a terrorist group, through theft or manufacture, is unacceptable. There is no higher priority than preventing the acquisition of this capability or removing this capability from terrorist groups potentially opposed to the U.S. (U)"

http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/pdd39.htm

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Peace
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 01:54 PM

The USA has about 20,000 nuclear weapons. But they are for peaceful purposes no doubt.

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Greg F.
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 02:03 PM

Now, now, Bruce, there's no need to post pictures of that obscene, lying felon disgrace-to-his-uniform and country, Oliver North.

He's One of America's Finest- pieces of shit.

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Slag
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 02:45 PM

Ahhh, that heady aroma of intelligent discourse! Man, I was startin' to reconsider my view on Algore. Peace, love and brotherhood to ya'll. We've managed to keep from nukin' ourselves in the foot so far. Anything less than batting 1000% would be a total rout, wouldn't you say?

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Amos
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 03:00 PM

Another perspective.


A

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: folk1e
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 06:04 PM

"removing this capability from terrorist groups potentially opposed to the U.S.".....Dickey
Call me an old cynic but does this mean it is OK for Terrorists who are NOT potentially opposed to the good old USofA?

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Peace
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 09:53 PM

A dream come true . . . .

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Teribus
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 04:55 AM

As we are bandying numbers about (US has about 20,000 nuclear weapons), in an attempt to show how big and bad America is, we might just as well get the numbers right:

US stockpile of nuclear weapons 5,735 active, 9,960 total

Russian stockpile of nuclear weapons 7,200 active, 16,000 total

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 09:38 AM

And then there's Liechtenstein. 752,000 very rich pastries, 56 medieval swords and spears, 22 paddywhackers, and a blunderbuss. Those guys mean business!

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Peace
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 07:44 PM

You're right, Teribus. Makes me feel so much better.

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Nickhere
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 09:11 PM

"The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass"

Guys, hate to be the one to say it, but if the guy is a terrorist and you 'go grab his ass' it just might give him the wrong message..... ;-)

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Slag
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 03:03 AM

Damn those Liechtensteinians anyhow! Always screwing up our chance at World Peace!

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 11:09 PM

Who wants to play grab-ass with a terrorist?

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Dickey
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 01:09 AM

Amos: Since when are you concerned about perspective? Your only concerned is your narrow minded focus on your hate Bush campaign.

Per haps you can focus your superior powers of prediction on what differece Al Gore winning the 2000 election would have made.

Another perspective.

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 02:23 AM

Hey...Amos and Dickey? I really appreciate both those links. They are each an amusing and apt comment on the various matters they address.

Now just keep your eyes on Liechtenstein and pray for peace, guys.

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Dickey
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 01:38 AM

The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, an independent, nonprofit and nonpartisan research organization, issued a press release late Monday:

Last night, Al Gore's global-warming documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, collected an Oscar for best documentary feature, but the Tennessee Center for Policy Research has found that Gore deserves a gold statue for hypocrisy.

Gore's 20-room, eight-bathroom mansion, located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES).

In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home.

The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh—more than 20 times the national average.

In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Peace
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 01:51 AM

Gee. Gore spent that and Bush spent enough to get the USA about 7 TRILLION dollars in debt. Gore is a BAD MAN!

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Peace
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 02:09 AM

Links from TCPR's website include the following right-wing and libertarian think tanks: [4]

American Enterprise Institute
Cato Institute
Center for Public Integrity
Competitive Enterprise Institute
Fraser Institute
Heartland Institute
Heritage Foundation
Independence Institute
Independent Institute
Manhattan Institute
National Center for Policy Analysis
Pacific Research Institute
Reason Foundation

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Dickey
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 12:21 PM

"Gore backed Reagan's disastrous deployment of the US Marines in Lebanon in 1983. He supported the invasion of that puissant Caribbean threat to the United States (population 240 million) by Grenada (population 80,000). He later chided his 1988 Democratic opponents for their failure to embrace this noble enterprise. At a time when many Democrats wanted to restrict the CIA's ability to undertake covert actions, Gore said he wouldn't "hesitate to overthrow a government with covert actions", a posture he ratified with his approval of the CIA's secret war in Afghanistan. This, the largest covert operation in the Agency's history, ultimately saddled Afghanistan with the Taliban fundamentalists, destroyers of cities, stoners of women, harborers of Bin Laden and overseers of that country's rise in status to the eminence of world's largest exporter of opium and heroin to the United States and Europe."

http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair03032007.html

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Peace
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 12:24 PM

Of course this is all bullshit because Gore doesn't mean anything in real terms. Just a weak attempt to take people's minds off Bush. Speaking of which . . . .

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Amos
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 12:43 PM

Dickey:

Gore has spend lotsa money and his own time since he had his Presidential election stolen from him, investing effort on a mission he feels strongly about studyig and communicating about global warming. The result ofhis effort: internationally, an increased awareness of the global environment, and efforts to do something about critical conditions thereof in order to extend and improve life --plant, animal, and human -- on planet Earth;

Bush has spent his last eight years blowing a budget surplus and driving the nation into historically extreme debt; curtailing the civil rights of his own citizens in the name of national defense; invading two nations and precipitating thousands of American deaths and tens of thousands or perhaps hundreds of thousands of other deaths, maimings, maulings, and ruinations of person. He has dissipated and wasted the greatest surge of goodwill toward America the world has ever seen and turned into a nadir of poor repute for the nation. He has adulterated the Constitution, and caused traumatic disruption of thousands of American lives, made a complete mess of Iraq and a half-complete mess of Afghanistan.

Well, you choose the record you like better, pal. I think I know raving destructive psychosis when I see it.

A

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Dickey
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 01:28 PM

"Bush spent enough to get the USA about 7 TRILLION dollars in debt"

That would be true IF the national debt was $0 when Bush took office and if he nad not inherited the 2001 spending budget of the Clinton dministration or the recession that began in 2000.

That 7 trillion started out from zero in 1835. Since then the value of a dollar has decreased, the population has increased and the gross national product has increased.

http://bohnsack.com/images/2005_debt_vs_gdp_small.jpg

Other countries have the same problem

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 01:49 PM

grab his ass.....

its like Basil fawlty said, its all bottoms with you Americans, isn't it!

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Dickey
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 03:59 PM

GORE REFUSES TO TAKE PERSONAL ENERGY ETHICS PLEDGE
March 21, 200y
WASHINGTON, DC – Former Vice President Al Gore refused to take a "Personal Energy Ethics Pledge" today to consume no more energy than the average American household. The pledge was presented to Gore by Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.) Ranking Member of the Environment and Public Works Committee, during today's global warming hearing.

Senator Inhofe showed Gore a film frame from "An Inconvenient Truth" where it asks viewers: "Are you ready to change the way you live?"

Gore has been criticized for excessive home energy usage at his residence in Tennessee. His electricity usage is reportedly 20 times higher than the average American household.

It has been reported that many of these so-called carbon offset projects would have been done anyway. Also, carbon offset projects such as planting trees can take decades or even a century to sequester the carbon emitted today. So energy usage today results in greenhouse gases remaining in the atmosphere for decades, even with the purchase of so-called carbon offsets.

"There are hundreds of thousands of people who adore you and would follow your example by reducing their energy usage if you did. Don't give us the run-around on carbon offsets or the gimmicks the wealthy do," Senator Inhofe told Gore.

"Are you willing to make a commitment here today by taking this pledge to consume no more energy for use in your residence than the average American household by one year from today?" Senator Inhofe asked.

Senator Inhofe then presented Vice President Gore with the following "Personal Energy Ethics Pledge:

As a believer:
·       that human-caused global warming is a moral, ethical, and spiritual issue affecting our survival;
·       that home energy use is a key component of overall energy use;
·       that reducing my fossil fuel-based home energy usage will lead to lower greenhouse gas emissions; and
·       that leaders on moral issues should lead by example;
I pledge to consume no more energy for use in my residence than the average American household by March 21, 2008."

Gore refused to take the pledge.
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=7616011f-802a-23ad-435e-887baa7069ca&IsTextOnly=False

Why not? He could install solar electric panels and a solar heating system and set an example.

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Dickey
Date: 28 Apr 07 - 10:53 AM

Limousine Liberal Hypocrisy

"...Remember the Leonardo DiCaprio and Al Gore global-warming pitch at the Academy Awards? Before they spoke, the screen at the back of the stage flashed not-so-subliminal messages about how to save the planet. My personal favorite was "Ride mass transit." This to a conclave of Hollywood plutocrats who have not seen the inside of a subway since the moon landing and for whom mass transit means a stretch limo seating no fewer than 10.
    Leo and Al then portentously announced that for the first time ever, the Academy Awards ceremony had gone green. What did that mean? Solar panels in the designer gowns? It turns out that the Academy neutralized the evening's "carbon footprint" by buying carbon credits. That means it sent money to a "carbon broker," who promised, after taking his cut, to reduce carbon emissions somewhere on the planet equivalent to what the stars spewed into the atmosphere while flying in on their private planes.
    In other words, the rich reduce their carbon output by not one ounce. But drawing on the hundreds of millions of net worth in the Kodak Theatre, they pull out lunch money to buy ecological indulgences. The last time the selling of pardons was prevalent--in a predecessor religion to environmentalism called Christianity--Martin Luther lost his temper and launched the Reformation.
    A very few of the very rich have some awareness of the emptiness--if not the medieval corruption--of ransoming one's sins. Sergey Brin, zillionaire founder of Google, buys carbon credits to offset the ghastly amount of carbon dioxide emitted by Google's private Boeing 767 but confesses he's not sure if it really does anything.
    Which puts him one step ahead of most other eco-preeners who actually pretend that it does--the Goracle himself, for example. His Tennessee mansion consumes 20 times the electricity used by the average American home. Last August alone it consumed twice as much power as the average home consumes in a year. Gore buys absolution, however. He spends pocket change on carbon credits, which then allow him to pollute conscience-free.
    What is wrong with this scam? First, purchasing carbon credits is an incentive to burn even more fossil fuels, since now it is done under the illusion that it's really cost-free to the atmosphere.
    Second, it is a way for the rich to export the real costs and sacrifices of pollution control to the poorer segments of humanity in the Third World. (Apparently, Hollywood's plan is to make up for that by adopting every last one of their children.) For example, GreenSeat, a Dutch carbon-trading outfit, buys offsets from a foundation that plants trees in Uganda's Mount Elgon National Park to soak up the carbon emissions of its rich Western patrons. Small problem: expanding the park encroaches on land traditionally used by local farmers. As a result, reports the New York Times, "villagers living along the boundary of the park have been beaten and shot at, and their livestock has been confiscated by armed park rangers." All this so that swimming pools can be heated and Maseratis driven with a clear conscience in the fattest parts of the world.
    The other form of carbon trading is to get Third World companies to cut their emissions to offset Western pollution. The reason this doesn't work--and why the carbon racket is a farce--is that you need a cap for cap-and-trade to work. Sulfur dioxide emissions in the U.S. were capped, and the trading system succeeded in reducing acid rain by half. But even the Kyoto treaty doesn't put any cap on greenhouse gases in China and India, where billions of these carbon credits are traded. Sure, you can pretend you're offsetting Western greenhouse pollution by supposedly cleaning up a dirty coal plant in China. But China is adding a new coal plant every week. You could build a particularly dirty "uncapped" power plant, then sell hundreds of millions in carbon credits to reduce it to a normal rate of pollution. The result? The polluter gets very rich. The planet continues to cook. And the Gores of the world can feel virtuous as they burn up the local power grid.
    If Gore really wants to save the planet, he can try this: Turn off the lights. Ditch the heated pool. Ride the subway. And spare us the carbon-trading piety.

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Dickey
Date: 29 Apr 07 - 12:49 AM

Gore blasts Canada's greenhouse-gas plan AFP - Sat Apr 28, 7:48 PM

MONTREAL (AFP) - Environmental crusader and former US vice president Al Gore on Saturday accused the Canadian government of preparing a fraudulent emissions cutback plan, drawing a sharp response from Ottawa.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/070428/canada/canada_us_climate

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Apr 07 - 10:06 AM

Last night, Swiss armed forces crossed the border into Liechtenstein on accident (it was dark and it's not like the borders are marked with big flashing lights everywhere). Most every other country would try to cover it up and deny it happened. What did Switzerland do? They called up Liechtenstein the next morning, explained what happened, and apologized. That's integrity right there,
http://iandefor.wordpress.com/2007/03/10/respect-for-switzerland/

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Dickey
Date: 01 May 07 - 10:34 PM

Time to muffle Al Gore's exhaust pipe By PETER WORTHINGTON                        
One could call it the impudence of Al Gore.

"Here's a guy who, for eight years, was vice-president of United States and during those eight years could not persuade the Senate to take action against the dreaded myth of greenhouse gases.

In fact, the Senate voted 95-0 against the Kyoto accords, which Canada backed enthusiastically but (fortunately) did nothing about.

Yet now that he's an Academy Award winner in documentary films (An Inconvenient Truth), and aspires to be a Nobel Peace Prize winner, he misses no occasion to make a nuisance of himself by lecturing others and pontificating to the applause of his think-alikes.

We expect that from Al Gore -- one of the more foolish Americans loose on the planet lusting for the spotlight, and dispensing his version of ecological wisdom to save us all from ourselves.

Gore's criticism of Prime Minister Stephen Harper and the Conservative government's so-called "green plan" is not only unseemly and offensive for a former American vice-president, but wrong.

"A complete and total fraud," is what he calls the plan which he says is "designed to mislead the Canadian people." (Interestingly, Gore's criticism of Canada is similar to what some climatologists and atmospheric scientists say of Gore's movie that predicts catastrophe for the planet unless the world listens to him.)

Gore made his charges at a green trade show in Toronto, as part of his antique road show version of persuading people to his point of view which, sadly, the Harper government is susceptible to....."

http://torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Worthington_Peter/2007/05/01/4144242-sun.html

Subject: RE: The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass
From: Peace
Date: 02 May 07 - 12:09 AM

Harper is NOT someone Canadians are proud of. He's kinka like Bush in the US, but in a much lower key.