SunCube Fiasco

Subject: BS: Keef has writted a book!
From: Keef
Date: 20 Nov 13 - 10:57 PM

Note to mods.
I know I get a bit boring about this Green Scamming thing but could you please not combine this with the now closed and defunct Sun Whatsit thread. I might be an idjit but I do have a serious point to make.
WATCH OUT there are scammers about!

Here is my book on the subject http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GPAGPR6

The Great SunCube Swindle
Publication Date: November 16, 2013
The true story of how a small time Aussie con-man stole millions from investors and caused billion dollar losses on the stockmarket with a claim that he would save our small blue planet
It took one lone and determined crusader 8 years to put a stop to this scam.
Read how swindlers are using greenwash to avoid closer examination of their TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE hyperbole.
Read how the corporate regulators fail in their duty to protect the public and how legal loopholes allow crooks the presumption of innocence.

Here is what one forum reader thought about the work that Keef is doing.

" BRAVO! I am experienced in cleantech and have seen many failed ventures but hadn't even thought about the scam aspect of these. I was naive enough to continue believing these start-ups were just overly optimistic or poorly planned. Your posts on this thread have honestly given me that "Duh" moment.
Unrealistic and losing business propositions continue to see funding because the amount of optimism in the clean energy category is unmatched, and the understanding of basic science amongst investors is severely lacking.....You would think society would slowly wise up after being repeatedly burned so many times...
anyway, keep up the good work exposing this charade."

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You're posting about the same basic thing over and over. You don't seem to care if others are interested, so it comes off as a little spammy. But the reason these posts are combined is that they're all about the same subject.

I re-opened this thread.

Subject: BS: When Keefy met Greggy
From: Keef
Date: 20 Nov 13 - 04:39 AM

Gotcha!

Subject: RE: BS: The Great SunCube Swindle
From: Keef
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 09:14 PM

Well, Greg Waatson is an American and as mad as a meat axe but I thought it was worth the risk!

Subject: RE: BS: The Great SunCube Swindle
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 09:02 PM

Oh, now I get it, Keef--you're the guy who was pretending to be from the power company. Here in the US, you could have (and likely would have) been shot if you'd done something like that. Not saying that it would be right...just saying.

Subject: RE: BS: The Great SunCube Swindle
From: Keef
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 08:57 PM

There IS a bit of music involved!

The Ballad of Greg Watson

Come and listen to a story
Bout a man named Greg
A poor old aging scammer
Barely kept his fambly fed
And then one day he was looking at his roof
Said I'll dream me up a sunball
And I'll say that it's the troof



Well the sunball turned to suncube
And to mark two three four five
And the money kept on flowing
It felt good to be alive
But those customers kept asking
When those suncubes they'd be getting
And they started asking questions
Bout the things Greg kept forgettin
Like....Proof Greg
Simple proof
Taint hard

Well now Greg he chucked a wobbly
And he said you won't be gettin
Not a single bloody suncube
Cos it's secret...I'm not tellin
But youse can all still buy a share
In my solar funny farm
And I'm keepin all the money
So there's no cause for alarm
Gold
Green and Gold
YEE HARRRR!

Well Greg he's building factries
In Indya and Korea
But Keef he said
Hey Greg..just cut the crap
And get on out of here
Your proposals are preposterous
Your aim is very clear
So take your stupid Suncubes
And insert them in your rear!
..............................................

I even get to sing it on the show!
Nice banjo accompaniment
Lots of YEE-HARS

Happy daze are here again!

Subject: RE: BS: The Great SunCube Swindle
From: Keef
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 08:50 PM

Because the Cat is where the sorry story started...
http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=102146

Mudcat was the only place I could find that would allow me to express my healthy scepticism about the claims made for this wonderful planet saving green widget.

Sadly I was unable to stop the swindle from duping many innocent investors out of their life savings.

Subject: RE: BS: The Great SunCube Swindle
From: Charmion
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 08:40 PM

And you're posting this on the 'Cat because ... ?

Subject: RE: BS: The Great SunCube Swindle
From: Keef
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 08:40 PM

Tetchy tetchy tetchy!

From: Greg [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Sunday, 17 November 2013 3:06 AM
To: Pangallo, Frank
Subject: You have no right to show my face nor that of anyone associated


Hi Frank,

Please note you nor TT nor Channel 7 nor anyone else has any right to show my face nor that of anyone else that may be associated and that prior approval to video / film has not been sought.

I note that you nor TT nor Channel 7 have NEVER sought my approval to show my face or that of anyone associated. Please ensure my face and that of anyone associated is totally blocked out in any video/s and/or film/s that have been taken without my / their express prior written approval and permission.

This email. like all the others, are also being faxed to Channel 7 Adelaide, Channel 7 Sydney, the Free TV regulator, my lawyers and others.

If you or anyone else has any issues with any if the emails I have sent, please let me know ASAP..

Regards,

Greg.

Subject: BS: The Great SunCube Swindle
From: Keef
Date: 17 Nov 13 - 08:36 PM

Adelaide inventor Greg Watson is about to get some wonderful publicity for his planet saving SunCube solar energy device.
But he's not happy!

From: Greg [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Saturday, 16 November 2013 12:09 PM
To: Pangallo, Frank
Subject: Re: Your recent visit

Frank,

Just saw the clip about the SunCube being a scam.

Channel 7 are hereby instructed to immediately stop further showing of this clip and of the item on Monday or I will initiate defamation proceedings against:
Channel 7

Personally against:
The producer of Today Tonight.
Frank Pangallo
Keith Leech
and any others involved in this activity.

The statements I heard on the clip are totally false and without proof.
If you do not have proof of these claims that will stand up in court, well you know what will be the outcome.
I know there is no proof as I lived the events.
Keith Leech is conning you.
Using TT to publicly embarrass me.
This is not the first time he has tried this.
In the past he dreamed up that GGE and out US solar cell supplier Emcore had conspired to defraud Emcore's shareholders.
Despite the claims being totally BS, the Emcore share price (public US company) dropped quite a bit.
Emcore has also publicaly stated the claims were false.
The US SEC investigated the claims and also found them to be false.
Then the Emcore shareholders filed a class action against Emcore, again based on the Keith theory.
That action also failed as the claimed were again found to be false.

So Keith has track record of making false claims against me and GGE, and then having no regard for the considerable damage to Emcore shareholder value, launched his BS attack against me via Emcore.
You need to understand Keith will make up the wildest claims, yet have no proof of wrong doing.
As he failed to destroy me via the Emcore false claim, it seems he has now turned his sights on TT.

Don't be conned by this guy as the Emcore shareholders were.
You need to talk to me before this costs you and Channel 7 a lot of money.

Greg Watson
Professional Inventor, masturbator and Foreign Exchange expert. 8)


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Greg wrote:

Hi Frank,

I do apologise for not being available but currently I spend a lot of time in bed recovering from the flu and my most recent bout of Malaria. I'm not really in a state to discuss things with you face to face but should be able to handle a few simple email questions.
First may I say that I'm amazed you appear to be associated with Keith Leech.
Yesterday, claiming to be an employee of the power company and wanting to discuss smart meter rollout, he tried unsuccessfully to force himself inside. He was dressed in a yellow safety vest, workmen safety shoes and wearing what looked like an identity badge on a cord around his neck, with a folder of some sort in his hand. When I told him I was not feeling well and was not interested, he forced his foot into the door way, preventing me from closing it. He then started shouting various statements such as he was going to punch me in the face, plant his boot up my ass and that I owed him money. I do not know this individual by sight and until yesterday never saw him before.
Finally after many requests for him to remove his boot, he did so. I then closed the door and went back to bed. Today a neighbours told he they saw him being interviewed on the footpath by what looked like a TV crew. Is this how you now operate Frank?
BTW this individual, that I have never had any business dealing with, has publicly stated many years ago (around 2007 I think) that he will stalk he and will not stop until I'm totally destroyed. If you doubt that I have more than ample proof.

Why he does what he does is beyond me? His only beef may be that I did not sell him a SunCube. He tried to order, like a lot of others but GGE never accepted 1 order nor never asked for any deposits nor asked for upfront funds.

Thanks to the federal government refusing to grant the produce approved status and then Standards Australia altering AS5033 in such a way to make it impossible to have a code compliant installed solar concentrator PV products in Australia, it was never possible to sell / install SunCubes in Australia. Even today only flat panels can be installed to be compliant with AS5033.

Frank this is all very old news. Nothing new here.

As Keith has now threatened violence and practiced planned deception (his outfit and claim to be working for the electricity company) to gain entry against me, with obvious foreplanning of the event, I'm now considering reporting the incident to the police and seeking a restraining order against him.
As I stated above Frank, I'm sure you and Channel 7 are not in the habit of getting people to pose as someone they are not, especially using such a guise to gain entry where they may not be welcome.

Best regards,

Greg Watson

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Keef
Date: 09 May 12 - 08:45 AM

Magnet Power
The gift that keeps on giving!

---- Original Message -----
From: Greg Watson
To: Vortex
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:56 AM
Subject: [Vo]:Re: Magnetic motor generators

Hi Guys
We have been informed that a company named Eagle Research is in violation of patents owned by my company Watson Alternative Neutron Kinetics P/L

See text below....


"As soon as we have enough money to build and test the prototypes (see sidebar thermometer), I must SHUT OFF this offer. This is the agreement that the inventor and I have made. Eagle-Research will make plans available again ONLY if he and I come to a new agreement AFTER the testing is done.
Only the people who make this donation now will continue to have access to the Eagle-Research Nowling Motor Resources and any continuing research after the shut off.
So... if you want the full plans (and access to later updates), this may be your only chance. And it will CERTAINLY be your only chance at this price. Once tested, and if the plans work, the price will be much higher.
We are providing the plans by donation BECAUSE they are not tested or proven in any way. We are giving you everything we know to date, partly to obtain the funding we need to build and test a prototype but also to get the plans out into at least 300 hands in case they DO WORK! So Vested Interest can't stop THIS Free Energy technology.
The funds you provide will reimburse expenses already incurred and then pay for the time, prototype parts, assembly, testing, customer corespondence and posting a report to the Resources. The budget for all of this is $4000.
You can donate more than once by putting a higher number in the quantity field below.
I am commited to proceeding with the project as soon as the $4000 goal is reached"
Eagle Research ( Cuckoo Research?)

Eagle-Research will shortly be receiving a legal summonds from our legal council.
This is a blatant attempt to duplicate my Rotary Smot Overunity Levitation Energiser - ( R.SOLE™) invention which is protected by over 19 International patents and has already been marketed around the world and generated several million dollars in revenue for Watson Alternative Neutron Kinetics P/L
We will have no hesitation in prosecuting those in violation of the Intellectual Property rights which are tightly held by our company.
I am greatly disappointed that any company would seek to rip off my invention which represents over 400 man-years of cutting edge technology at the coal face of engineering research aimed to break the monopoly held by big oil and flat panel solar companies.

My legal team has assured me that I am 100% certain to win this case and be awarded many millions of dollars in damages.
I intend to donate all the proceeds to worthy causes such as underprivileged airline passengers who are forced to travel in economy class and stay in 4 star hotels.

I would like to take this opportunity of thanking all those members of Vortex who have given me financial support in perfecting my SMOT marketing scheme which the first major commercial success for our company and allowed us to move forward with the SunBall (Mark 1 to 73) and also the SunCube (Mark 5to 87)


Best Regards
Greg Watson

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Keef
Date: 01 May 12 - 12:41 PM

Help save our small blue planet and make LOTS of munny

Take part NOW in an amazing altruistic and potentially highly financially rewarding opportunity.....
Ack ack ack gag gag BLEUGH sploosh sploosh!

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Keef
Date: 30 Apr 12 - 02:31 PM

The scandalous tale of one of the greatest business scams in Australian business history - the controversial fuel pill, Firepower.

A magic pill that cuts fuel consumption and reduces emissions ...... that was the miracle promised by Tim Johnsto' s company, Firepower.

Everyone believed him; prime ministers and presidents, doctors and diplomats, business leaders and sporting heroe - even ASIC the corporate watchdo - went along with the myth. Millions of shares were sold to investors, and by 2007, Firepower had become the biggest sporting sponsor in the country.

But it was all a sham. In this compelling account, Gerard Ryle demolishes the fairytale, exposing a wobbly financial pyramid and the greatest fraud ever committed in Australia

Tim Johnston divided his people into Oranges and Lemons. Those who did' t know him enough yet, he called Oranges. They thought he was nice and sweet and juicy. But those who really got to know him became Lemons: he left them bitter and twisted'

An excellent read. Gerard commented on the psychological peculiarity that victims would rather accept more lies from the conman than face up to the fact that they have been dudded.

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Keef
Date: 30 Apr 12 - 02:25 PM

It's not only greedy bastards who get taken in by conmen.
A successful conman (often a sociopath) has the ability to push the correct button for each victim.
Sometimes (but not always) the button is greed.
Fear can also be a useful tool, "you know your wife might be really disappointed that you didn't take this chance to get in at the start and make some good money for your family.
Another ploy is to appeal to the good nature of the victim " this is a great opportunity for you to really do something to help the environment.
I've been a salesman (got fired for taking the customers side!) and you would be amazed how easy it is to trap people into a commitment before they even realise its happened. The "assumed close" is a great one.

You should read Firepower by Gerard Ryle
Hundreds of people got taken for millions of dollars and they were not all greedy or stupid.

My campaign is aimed at getting the authorities (in particular ASIC)
to enforce the law or even change the law so that the presumption of innocence does not apply to conmen.

These bastards usually have previous form which can easily be found online.
If I could find out about Greg Watson's previous exploits (which also include the failure of MicroByte Solutions directed by Watson)never mind the SMOT nonsense.
Even after they were tipped off by me they failed to act.
Likewise the SEC in America.


"Now all the criminals in their coats and their ties
Are free to drink martinis and watch the sun rise"

Ain't it the truth?

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Paul Burke
Date: 30 Apr 12 - 01:51 PM

Point taken Keef, but I honestly don't mind greedy bastards being skinned by conmen. As for the others, just trumpet out loud: never buy into a technology you don't understand, and if it looks like a free lunch, you're probably the filling in the pasties.

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Keef
Date: 30 Apr 12 - 10:29 AM

If you should happen to see my friend Greggy do please pass on my regards!

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 30 Apr 12 - 10:10 AM

Thanks for the info, Keef.

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Keef
Date: 30 Apr 12 - 09:45 AM

Greg Watson has now done a runner to the USA.
That might prove to have been a mistake.

Case Summary

The lawsuit is for purchasers of the common stock of Emcore Corporation (NASDAQ: EMKR) between June 12, 2007 and June 30, 2008.   

The lawsuit alleges that the Company made false and misleading statements throughout the class period in violation of federal securities laws by publishing statements that its main customer, Green and Gold Energy ("GGE"), was a viable company that could afford to purchase the product it had backordered from Emcore. In fact, the lawsuit alleges, Emcore knew that Green and Gold Energy would not be able to pay for its backlogged orders because, among other things, Emcore knew that: (1) the CEO of GGE formerly promoted a failed venture to produce a "perpetual motion machine" (a machine that modern science has proven cannot be made, and for which investors reportedly lost all their money), (2) GGE did not even have a plant to build the machine in which it was going to use the product it ordered from Emcore, (3) the prototype of GGE's machine in which it would use Emcore's product was not functional, and (4) the company GGE touted as it "exclusive distributor" (Zolar Distributors) was a sham company with no physical address created by GGE itself. Moreover, the lawsuit alleges that Emcore's insiders traded on the information that they concealed from the investing public, making big profits on unscheduled and unusual trades that they made ahead of the precipitous fall in the Company's share price.

On March 18, 2008, reports that GGE was not a viable company started to surface. On the basis of these reports, and Emcore's rebuttal to the reports, made the same day, which failed to address the specific allegations against GGE, the price of Emcore's shares dropped precipitously, falling more that 23% from the previous day's trading, on heavy volume.

Look behind you Greggy
You can run, but you can't hide!

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Keef
Date: 30 Apr 12 - 04:47 AM

"I do think though Keef, that if you put as much energy into looking for genuine solutions as you do into opposing bogus ones, you'd make a better contribution. The scammers can operate because the world is looking for an easy way out of a huge problem. It's possible (probable?) that there is no solution; in which case we're fucked. But let's try to look for one."

I know I am pushing shit uphill with a pointed stick BUT

Ralph Nader did not design any new cars
He did however make a contribution to automobile safety.

I think the renewable energy industry is also "unsafe at any speed"
and I think it is time to build in safety features to reduce the injury caused by car crashes like Green & Gold Energy and Solyndra.

No, that's all right, no need to thank me, just doing my job....
Kindly send Nobel prize c/- P.O.Box 1234 Bogafreakingbilla, Beyond Black Stump, Never Never Land.

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Keef
Date: 29 Apr 12 - 04:15 PM

It's a serious problem Paul
They are robbing investors large and small.
Many of the scams attract investments from superannuation funds whose members had no say in the matter.
Other investments come from retirees and redundancy payees who fall for the promised high returns.
This does NOTHING to create the needed breakthroughs in renewable energy.
It diverts money that could have been used for genuine research.


Rossi's Australian Investment Opportunity Falls ThroughPosted on February 13, 2012 by Steven B. Krivit
An Australian believer in Andrea Rossi's "Energy Catalyzer" has failed to obtained money to acquire the Australian rights to Rossi's device.

Solihin Millin, from Murwillumbah, Byron Bay, Australia, asked potential investors for money to acquire the Australian rights to Rossi's device. One of the potential investors was Dick Smith, a successful Australian businessman and philanthropist. Millin asked him for AUS$200,000.

Smith had some doubts so he asked the Australian Skeptics Society to look into the merits of Rossi's device. They had doubts, too, and warned Smith, who decided to pass on the opportunity.

Millin, in turn, threatened to sue Smith for damages of AUS$100 million because, according to Millin, he lost the time-sensitive opportunity to acquire the Australian E-Cat rights.

Millin runs an organization in Australia called Byron New Energy Charitable Trust, also known as the Byron New Energy Group. New Energy Times spoke with Millin on Feb. 1, but he declined to comment.

ECAT SCAM - BUSTED!

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Paul Burke
Date: 29 Apr 12 - 02:14 PM

I do think though Keef, that if you put as much energy into looking for genuine solutions as you do into opposing bogus ones, you'd make a better contribution. The scammers can operate because the world is looking for an easy way out of a huge problem. It's possible (probable?) that there is no solution; in which case we're fucked. But let's try to look for one.

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Keef
Date: 29 Apr 12 - 01:23 PM

The Professor is IN!

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Keef
Date: 29 Apr 12 - 01:04 PM

It must be real, I've seen the video

GIVE US ALL YOUR MUNNY!

ALL THESE PEOPLE BELIEVE IT...SO SHUT UP KEEF

That nasty GLOBAL OIL CARTEL is trying to suppress it

Crewton Ramone's Blog Of Math, July 7, 2011 6:06 AM
The silence of American Media is again a tell tale sign of whom it is that controls the media and whom it is that benefits from the media and it is not the American people.

They have done a fine job of keeping this information from the people with every manner of distraction. It is such a threat that they don't want ANY attention placed on it not even negative attention because even negative attention is still attention which could lead some to look further and realize just how BIG this is.

Cheap energy is the ultimate game changer...it's up to the blogosphere to spread this information at the grassroots level. This will have two fold effect, not only will the information spread but the MSM will be further exposed as the servants of the banksters who own big oil and nuclear power which are the mainstay of the energy establishment. Soon they will be unable to ignore it. Meantime, use their silence to your advantage.

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Keef
Date: 29 Apr 12 - 12:40 PM

If you are going to have a Green Widget scam, you might as well make it a REALLY BIG ONE!

Markus NApr 12, 2012 (edited) - Public
Defkalion Green Technologies
3 Xanthou Street
Glyfada 16674
Greece

10th April, 2012

Dear Sirs,
You have shown interest in our company either for commercial, technical, scientific or research-based reasons. This letter is sent to you privately; it is not a press release, nor intended for publication. We will soon be making our public announcements accordingly. We honour our word to reciprocate your good will and interest in our work during a period that could be defined as "business as unusual". From now on, we progress full steam ahead, business as usual.

For over 20 years many have believed in the existence of a new thermal energy source known as Low Energy Nuclear Reactions (LENR). A considerable body of literature, measurements and tests have been pursued by laboratories in many countries. The LENR field has yet to provide a concrete understanding of the fundamental theory. A lot of work still needs to be done in the theoretical analysis and beyond.

Defkalion scientific team consists of scientific and engineering experts. It has successfully managed to trigger and monitor Chemically Assisted Low Energy Nuclear Reactions caused by Nickel and Hydrogen nuclei. This unique LENR technology is based on proprietary methodologies and engineering designs.

Defkalion has conducted third party tests on its core technology by internationally recognized and reputable private and public organizations from Europe and America. Today, there is solid, unambiguous evidence confirming our technology. We are at the dawn of a new era of clean, inexpensive, limitless renewable energy.

We believe that LENR is a technology that should be benefited by everybody. Our core philosophy and vision were always based on responsible use. We believe in creating new opportunities for fossil free energy which will have a huge impact on climate change and carbon emissions. It goes without saying that our technology will also have a great positive impact on the Greek economy with dynamic implications on the global economy. We support the transition of low cost energy to third world countries while also showing commitment to an entirely new field of scientific research that will initiate new products through research and development as well as the rebirth of high cost energy technologies.

It is unlikely that the commercialization of LENR technology will have an immediate significant decrease in fossil fuel consumption, but a very dramatic psychological impact is expected. Investors will see the medium and long-term implications of significantly lower energy prices, and consequentially lower the assessed value of soon-to-be obsolete energy infrastructure, conventional energy companies, and long-term contracts for their relatively expensive products.

Defkalion will become the first global player in LENR using its proprietary technology to commercialize its new products and diversify into new Research & Development efforts for new applications. It plans to have a fully operational prototype ready by July 2012.

Defkalion has the most advanced technical and business development in this new energy paradigm as confirmed and verified by long time LENR experts. Although we still have some more months ahead of us before our commercial product is finalized for market entry, we are ready today to share our plans with potential partners.

Our launch-strategy for this technology with minimal risk of failure encompasses fast speed, wide applications, many countries, competitive pricing, protection against competition, as well as in-depth international support.
Your interest represents one of over 1,000 entities from more than 70 countries. Our business with potential partners is two-fold: either as an OEM to manufacture, sell and service our products in given countries, or to jointly create R&D project towards new applications using our technology.

Defkalion business is primarily a technology licensing company with expected revenues being generated from the following models:

a. OEM License Agreements
Licenses to build and sell Hyperion products are sold to companies with exclusivity for a given country. Each license sold for Euros 40.5 million represents one factory with maximum capacity 300,000 units annually (varying capacity and numbers of factories will change the fee accordingly). No further royalty fees are paid by Licensees. Powder (cartridge format) will be sold as a component to each Hyperion unit.

Defkalion selects one company as OEM from every country based on their readiness to run this technology in their country, their willingness to execute the project, and their ability to handle a 100 million Euro investment.
Defkalion shall provide to every OEM Licensee a full Transfer of Technology & Know-How concerning production, maintenance, installation and recharge of Hyperion products. This will be done after signing of contracts and will be done in phases through a deliverables matrix.

b. Joint Ventures through R&D
Companies can further develop Defkalion's proprietary LENR technology as a heat source through joint R&D for specific processes and/or applications according to their expertise as global leaders in their own industry. Defkalion shall partner with them with global distribution rights as niche market players, where R&D is coordinated in Greece.
Existing interest has already come from the following sectors: marine propulsion; water desalination; automobile; small aircraft; mining/extraction; telecom towers; cooling/heating; green-houses; fertilizers; food & beverage; cement; commercial heating; household heating; drying industry; data storage; hospitals; airport take-off & landing strips; district heating; battery charging.

Should you be interested to continue through one of these approaches, please contact us accordingly. For entities and/or individuals that wish simply to purchase units, you will have to wait until there is a representative in your country. For businesses and/or technical interests, we will need from you the following:

Entity name, CEO/Director's name, main address, website, contact details
History, operational overview, LENR interest

Future milestone events that you can expect from Defkalion are the following:
Presentation of a fully functioning prototype shown to the international scientific community, open to the world's media, during the summer of 2012.

Not long after, an international press conference with all the companies involved in this project and the OEMs from each country having signed a contract with us.

We look forward to hearing from those of you whose interest corresponds to our business models. We wish the rest of you - whose anticipation remains the witnessing of a final product - patience and support.

Kind Regards,

Symeon Tsalikoglou
Director, Business Development & Marketing
Praxen Defkalion Green Technologies (Global) Ltd.

THANK YOU KINDLY FOR THE OFFER
WHEN DO YOU NEED THE MUNNY?

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Paul Burke
Date: 29 Apr 12 - 10:39 AM

They have a WORKING PLANT, you only have to go to Jakarta to see for yourself! How can you possibly complain about something that works according to Newtown's Laws and the flow of physics? There is plenty of scope to develop it too, using Bayesian Probability and Quantum Tunneling.

$o= $i + (Ni * $pi) - $l where Ni is the number of idiots, $pi is the sum payed per idiot, and $l is the cost of laundering the loot overseas.

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Keef
Date: 29 Apr 12 - 09:13 AM

FAQ


Is Hidro+ a Perpetual Motion Machine?
No because the perpetual motion and conservation of energy refers to thermodynamic principles (1st, 2nd and 3rd laws); but not fluid mechanics and dynamics, flow of physics, Archimedes Principles and Newtown's Laws (1st and 2nd Laws of Physics).

Now to put the above explanation into relevant equations and technically referred to as Energy and Mass Balance:
*        In energy conversion: Ei = Eo - ZL; where Ei= energy input on continuous basis, such as coal, gas, biomass as heat energy, wave and wind as mechanical energy.; Eo= Energy output in electrical energy; ZL=zigma Losses due to energy conversion and frictions, and ambience conditions.

*        In perpetual motion: Ei = Eo + DE; where Ei=a one-time-only energy input, such as movements of filaments due to heat and pressure variants from ambience conditions, and/or mechanical energy.; Eo= energy output in electrical energy; DE= delta energy gained due to whatever (which we concur with you as invalid!).

*        In Hidro+: Ei + EProd = Eo - ZL; where: Ei= electrical energy input on continuous basis; EProd=energy gained due to deep water pressure energy conversion including bouyancy at 1010kg/m3 and deep water pressure at 1bar (100kPa) per meter of water depth; Eo= energy output including gravity and potential energy of freefall object and terminal velocity; ZL=zigma losses due to conversion and frictions, etc.

OH! that's all right then.

Ahem!

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Keef
Date: 29 Apr 12 - 09:00 AM

Careful...it might be coming to a place near you
Hidro UK (send munny please)

Renewable Utilities holds the Hidro Generation Technology exclusive license for the United Kingdom & Ireland. This includes manufacturing, owning and operating Hidro generating plants together with sub-licensing the asset to third parties.

If you missed out on the chance to buy a SUNCUBE licence then here is another opportunity.
FREE ENERGY for all!
How could you possibly go wrong?

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Keef
Date: 29 Apr 12 - 08:50 AM

And then there is this one The energy problem is solved...woo woo!

Mr James Kwok
CPEng; FIEAust; MCMechE; FAIM; NPER1; Chartered Professional Engineer and Fellow Institution of Engineers Australia.

Mr James Kwok is the inventor/technologist of numerous world patents pending including vortexodial turbine for wind energy; vortexodial turbine for wave energy; PortalGen and Solar-Prism for solar PV. James Kwok has been granted with nine Innovation Patents 2004100467-475, all with multiple commercial applications for various mechanical-components and systems used in low-emissions coal gasification plants and Fluidised Bed Combustion (FBC) Reactors. James Kwok holds the granted Patents for the commercially ready technology, hydrodynamic-cycle for deep water pressure energy conversion technology (Hidro+™). In 2008 Professor Ion Boldea of Politehnica University, Romania joined as a co-developer in Hidro+'s multi-module tower linear electric generator (MTLEG) technology, currently world patent pending the Hidro+ MTLEG is a joint patent between James Kwok and Professor Ion Boldea.

Sounds nice Jimmy
Why don"t you tell us a bit more about yourself?

The Hidro+ device is now being promoted through multiple companies, including Centium Electric (ASX) in Australia and Renewable Utilities UK in the UK. Online filing with ASX show that Centium has AU$200,000 in working capital and seems to be active recently. The site sharescene has an interesting thread on this company, and is numerous names which include Village Life Ltd (VLL), Fig Tree Developments (FTD), FTD Corporation (FTD) and most recently Centium Electric Limited (CUI). Investors beware - demand proof of performance just as you would if I claimed I had a cape of invisibility or could walk through stone walls unharmed. If any company attempts to sell you one of these machines, you can report to North American anti fraud groups and it will end up in international police databases. National Consumers League's Fraud Center (on-line complaint form) Federal Trade Commission (on-line complaint form), Canadian Anti-Fraud Center (they share with US authorities) FBI Tips (on-line form). In Australia you can submit to Australian Competition & Consumer Commission.

In 2007, The Australian Securities and Investments Commission stated "Mr Kwok was sentenced in the Sydney District Court today after being found guilty, following a two-week trial in October 2006, of dishonestly using his position as a director under the Corporations Act. ASIC alleged that Mr Kwok acted dishonestly while a director of Envirostar Energy Limited (Envirostar), a publicly listed company, by not disclosing his interest in two parcels of land leased by Envirostar. The leases over the land commenced in mid-2000 but Mr Kwok's interest was not discovered until August 2002 when he tendered his resignation from the Envirostar Board. Envirostar had paid rent of approximately $30,000 per month for the land."

http://www.nlcpr.com/Deceptions16.php

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Keef
Date: 29 Apr 12 - 08:35 AM

More GREEN WIDGETS!

Here is another CPV Widget company that trousered $20M from Kiwi investors and considerably more from investors around the world..

Geoffrey Taylor was the founding chairman - and he and his family were major shareholders - of Sunseeker Energy (Australasia), a solar energy company that traded on the secondary sharemarket in New Zealand. At its height, the company - whose chief executive was McAskill, the Melbourne businessman sentenced to six months' jail in 2003 - was valued at $NZ18 million and it had a number of related entities. They included Sunseeker Energy (Australia) that operated from Melbourne and the Swiss-registered Sunseeker Energy Holding AG that operated out of Hong Kong, but was listed on the Frankfurt stock exchange in 2009 at a purported 1 billion euros.
In April last year, New Zealand authorities cancelled the public listing of Sunseeker Energy (Australasia) for what it described as ''repeated infringement of the rules'', its ''failure to provide any information to the NZAX market regarding its business or operations'' and the firm's ''own admission … that it is insolvent''.

Sunseeker Widget (it's nice!)

Still going http://www.sunseekerenergy.com/

Should we continue to give them the benefit of the doubt?
Oh dear!

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Keef
Date: 26 Apr 12 - 08:24 AM

You know,I was kind of hoping to move on from my SunCube obsession and discuss other green widgets such as ..............................

Wacky solar ideas... CPV especially but not forgetting Solydra (OMG)

Wavepower widgets there are lots of those

New improved battery widgets especially Zinc Bromine Flow Batteries
(lots of companies touting those as the next big thing, coming real soon, disruptive technology, paradigm shift, send munny!)
Wacky wind widgets like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpSTGxcRjrc
(yeah right!)

Nonetheless SunCube did provide some entertainment.
Have a read of this thread for wild promises and threats to sue EVERYONE for defamation

My SunCube is lovely so shut up or I'll sue the lot of you!

Shame about the SunCube licensees though

I warned them....but they wouldn't listen



They really should have listened!

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Keef
Date: 26 Apr 12 - 07:55 AM

No Problem

http://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/action/pjudg?jgmtid=154368

I'll even make it easier for you
Watson said a bad bad thing!

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: gnu
Date: 25 Apr 12 - 03:58 PM

So, can and will you cite the jurisdiction and case?

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Keef
Date: 25 Apr 12 - 03:55 PM

Do you think they would listen to me?

http://www.standard.net.au/news/local/news/general/wave-power-inaction-a-waste-of-energy/1959233.aspx

Most (if not all) wavepower companies are nothing but a scam. They simply claim to have invented a wave widget which is almost ready for "commercialization" then launch a stock market IPO. Directors pay themselves million dollar salaries plus stock options then make excuses year after year for non delivery on their exaggerated claims of "Power 24/7 at lower than fossil fuel prices. Have a look at the history of OPTT (the main contender for the Portland project and the government handout that goes with it). They have NEVER delivered on a project. CEO George W Taylor (who claims to hold THREE Doctorates!!) has been paying himself millions of dollars a year for 25 years on the fantasy that his silly PowerBuoy can provide reliable and economic power. OPTT have NEVER delivered on a project. The only income the company derives is from government funded feasibility studies. In Cornwall and Scotland the wave hubs are ready and waiting, the government has paid for the PowerBuoys but OPTT are not quite ready....the PB40 was only a Prototype...here comes PB150...need more time...PB500 coming real soon... http://web.archive.org/web/*/http ://www.oceanpowertechnologies.com /
Posted by Keef Wivanef, 10/10/2010 3:37:08 PM, on The Warrnambool Standard

NO, OF COURSE THEY WOULDN'T!

IN LATE 2009, Energy Minister Martin Ferguson shocked analysts by awarding a $66 million grant to a little-known wave power project off the south-west coast of Victoria.
The US-based Ocean Power Technologies - touting a relationship with Leighton Holdings - beat their more fancied wave-power competitors to the money with a proposal to build a 19-megawatt development near Portland.
Two years on and there is no physical evidence of the project in Victorian waters, leaving clean energy proponents, including defeated rivals, wondering whether it has been a gamble that will not pay off.

In an interview with The Saturday Age, Ocean Power's directors say that despite the naysayers (SHUT UP KEEF) they have made quiet progress. And early next year they want to begin laying cables and putting the first of their ''power buoy'' generation units into the ocean, ready to produce renewable energy.
The director of Ocean Power's Australian arm, Gilbert George, said initial delays occurred during lengthy discussion over the conditions and the contract for the grant.
''It is new technology and the federal government, I think quite rightly, wanted to be conservative, it's taxpayers' money,'' Mr George said.
He said the government also set a major condition for the grant: a demonstration of the latest power buoy design. The company met this requirement in Scotland last year.
Australian-born George Taylor - Ocean Power's founder and executive chairman - said that since winning the grant a technical report had also been ticked off federally on the potential energy per wave at the Portland site.
Ocean Power recently hired Keith Bowyer as managing director of the Portland project. They are preparing to seek environmental permits and have been meeting potential investors.
Dr Taylor said the company had spent time honing its technology, with systems in the water going back to 1997. He also pointed to grants Ocean Power had received from the US departments of Energy and Defence to help develop projects in Hawaii and Oregon.
In the past, questions have dogged Ocean Power about its performance. In 2008, its then British house broker Collins Stewart complained in The Times of London of the company ''displaying a total inability to deliver''.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/environment/energy-smart/victorian-wave-power-project-in-murky-water-20120120-1qacy.html#ixzz1t4zvEc10

Can we have some more MUNNY please?

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Keef
Date: 25 Apr 12 - 03:26 PM

Baglow v Smith 2011 ONSC 5131, Ontario Superior Court of Justice, Canada

No, not that one.
At least they did not put me in Guantanamo.

Now then, are you ready to hear about the WAVE WIDGETS?

Wave hubs built with taxpayer dollars in Orkney and Cornwall and guess what...
No WAVE WIDGETS to test.
They seem to be afraid of the water.

I wonder why?

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: MarkS
Date: 25 Apr 12 - 03:11 PM

OK, so now the field is clear for me to market my perpetual motion machine?

Or the pill I can put in my gas tank so my car will run on water?

Or the pill I can take to make me irresistable to women? Oh wait, that one is real.

Mark

Subject: RE: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: gnu
Date: 25 Apr 12 - 02:24 PM

Is this the case?

Baglow v Smith 2011 ONSC 5131, Ontario Superior Court of Justice, Canada

Subject: BS: SunCube and other Green Widget Scams
From: Keef
Date: 25 Apr 12 - 09:31 AM

Remember me from the "Suncube Fiasco" thread?
SunCube Fiasco

Short version... Inventor claimed to have a wonderful new improved Green Widget called a SunCube which would be on sale very soon and it would save the planet and make LOTS of money for investors.
I called BULLSHIT here and on many other forums and the inventor got tetchy, promised to sue me and called me a criminal, liar etc etc.
I got tetchy as well and took him to court for defamation.
Cost me a heap of money but I won my case and was awarded damages plus costs.
KEEF WINS

Still waiting for my money, Green and Gold Energy is now in receivership and I am but one of many creditors.
Oh well, such is life.
Along the way I learned of many other Green Widget scams.
I would like to have a bit of a chat about them here on MudCat because almost every other forum bans me as soon as I start attacking the sacred cows.

But Keef - it's a new renewable energy device
What is wrong with you?
Why are you being so negative?

Errr......
Well cos I don't like to see taxpayers and investors money being shovelled down executives trousers.

Just take a closer look at some of these Green Widget companies and you will see that they have been doing a SunCube!
Nearly ready
New improved Mark 7 version ready next year
Can we have some more MUNNY pretty please!

Subject: RE: SunCube Fiasco
From: GUEST,Keef
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 07:26 PM

SUNCUBE GETS DODGY CERTIFICATE

Blind Freddy can see it!

Hallelujah .....I've seen the light.
(oh Lordy)
I've seen the light!
(oh Lordy)

Catchy isn't it?

Now where was I...

Greggy says that he has acieved IEC62108 after 8 months of rigorours testing
Solar farms to be built world wide.
Mark Simmons is over the moon.
Keef gets ready to eat his hat...

Except that... Greggy has now done another amazing backflip, and now says it is definitely a Eurocert certifate any way so don't be so freaking picky.
EXCEPT that it is only a VALID IEC 62108 Certificate will be accepted by USA, Australia, India, and JUST ABOUT FREAKING ANYWHERE on this planet.

Hi Shrikanth,
Please inform to us why there is any need to obtain an IECEE CB certificate?
I mean do you agree this is just one of many certification structures?
Please give us information that confirms that ONLY IECEE CB can issue a
valid Certification of Conformity as against IEC/EN 62108? Is this not what
you are suggesting?
Why is a IECEE CB Certification superior, as you seem to suggest it is, to
the EuroCert ISO certificate? I can find nothing to support your belief.
Please provide the information that you seem to suggest you possess that
proves IECEE CB certification is somehow superior to ISO certification?
I also note you have not answered my earlier question about your
qualifications in quality certification systems to question EuroCert's
Certification of Conformity to IEC 62108 for the SunCube and revealing any
solar interests that may be personally and commercially beneficially to you
that may be in conflict to those of the SunCube and GGE's licensees?
All the best,
Green and Gold Energy Pty., Ltd
Greg Watson, CEO
7 Provident Avenue, Glynde, 5070

Subject: RE: SunCube Fiasco
From: Keef
Date: 29 Jan 10 - 04:24 AM

Golly...I have I been busy!!
Keef attacks gigantic solar energy BOONDOGGLE!

Hooley freaking dooley.... what a can of worms!

Subject: RE: SunCube Fiasco
From: Keef
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 02:33 AM

I think it is time for a character reference for Greg Watson!!
Dear Keef, im a late comer in this fiasco, people keep coming to me with information regards Mr Watson, and i have a personal grudge with him. He tried to scam me for a lot of money, well over 100 thousand dollars. I was warned about him from an associate of his. I have found Greg to be a liar and a cheat, and i am totally aware that he manipulates the media and people to gain a financial advantage. I know that the lady he is living with at the moment has gone into major debt on her home because of him, and she is not the first. I also know of many other people, such a Michael Sullivan who has invested personally $150 thousand dollars. I know of other people investing funds of $80 thousand, $50 thousand, and $20 thousand. I remember Greg telling me that he arranged a huge grant with the Minister of Transport of taxpayers funds. I have also been told that Greg has been spending money for himself and his new family including friends for overseas holidays. I also know that while this was going on they were claiming Centerlink payments at the time. I undersand that there was an office manager called Phil who got the sack because he was going to expose Greg for fraudulent mismanagement and deceit to the investors. I want you to keep in mind that what i am saying i believe to be the truth, and it is only heresay.. This is not considered to be evidence, except i have a list of peoples names who have given me this information. You must understand Gregs nature, he is not a man who will take up a job, he lives off other people being naive and gullible.

Going back to Emcore, i think they did believe in Greg to start with, i can't understand how they managed to get 500 thousand dollars out of him, but i feel that this may not be true and that Emcore saw this as an opportunity to manipulate the share market. In actual fact by portraying to the small investors that is the "Mums and Dads" of this world, that they would have seen this as an opportunity to manipulate their shares where the directors have benefitted greatly. The questions you should be asking are firstly What happened to the profits that the company would have recieved by the manipulation of the value of the stocks. Secondly how the directors have benefitted through this, and i recently noticed by reading some of the background that Emcore want to split the company into three divisions now. I would think that the reason behind this would be to keep them, the directors at arm's length, let that part of the company go bankrupt with all the "Mum's and Dad's" losing all their money, while the directors sit on some Carribean Island.

Furthermore, Suncube is not Greg's first scam, and I strongly feel that the media should be held accountable as it is this that has done the greatest damage. I mean that the Suncube has not worked to date, it is an item that requires something like 500 dollars to build. So why is it that all this amount of money is required for investment when the cube has yet to be proven whether it works. My understanding is that the idea has been pinched off somebody else, the same as some of his other scams. Why would you need to rent big factories, rave on about all the people you are going to hire, how you are going to dominate the world in solar energy, it certainly sounds like something smells here. You could have built the cube in your home for a few bucks, and show that it works, and does the job. As far as i know this scam alone has been going on for five years, and to date he still has not managed to prove that it works, but people keep handing their money over to him.

I am surprised that Current Affairs haven't got hold of this story as yet, so as to warn the public.


GGE History

* 2000 – 2004 Energy consultant to the power industry on advanced metering and demand side management.
* Developed various real metering and load remote load control systems.
* 2005 – Invented the SunBall and won the Australian Peoples Choice Invention of the Year award.
* Formed GGE with AU$250k of my own capital.
* Developed the SunBall Mark 1 and Mark 2.
* 2006 - Evolved the SunBall Mark 2 to the SunCube Mark 3.
* Raised a further AU$250k, thanks to long time friend Michael Sullivan to commercialize the SunCube.
* Michael Iannella, a very talented metal fabrication engineer, joined the GGE development team to guide the SunCube development.
* Developed the SunCube Mark 4.
* 2007 - Developed the SunCube Mark 5 & 6.
* 2008 - Developed the SunCube Mark 7.5 to commercial ready stage.
* Worked with Emcore to achieve the world's first CPV receiver warranty.


Yeah yeah rah de rah

Suncube India is now selling franchises for the VAPOURCUBE!

Sigh!!!

Subject: RE: SunCube Fiasco
From: Keef
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 11:20 PM

Well the scam goes on.
How does he get away with it?
Simple.
It's the old NDA trick!!

Greg Watson and the NDA trick      27-Oct-09 04:08 pm   
Here is what Dr Richard George thought of the SunPube.


On April 13, 2008 11:12 AM, New Energy Congress member, Richard P. George, Ph.D. wrote:

Greg has announced ~$78 million worth of orders placed with Emcore, but Emcore has only received $500,000 through the end of the 2008 1st quarter. These "orders" appear to be vapor, much like some of the huge telecom orders in 1999-2001 like the $500 million order in 2000 for Sun servers that Enron's telecom unit placed but never actually purchased. The lack of actual sales from this order was a major factor behind Emcore's stock crashing ~75% in the past several months.

He has sold several licenses but where are the working units (even pilot production ones) in verifiable installations with any independent measurement data validating output claims? The Korean deal was announced over a year ago but there remains no evidence that anything has actually materialized or that any product is actually being delivered, even in limited volumes.

Looking good (on paper) is not enough. Given the large number of red flags discovered to date while doing due diligence on Green and Gold Energy, we have to verify every detail.

- - - -

On January 25, 2008 7:28 PM, New Energy Congress member, Richard P. George, Ph.D. wrote:

I am downgrading my vote on Green & Gold Energy Suncubes from a Top 2 ranking to "Not Enough Information". I am increasingly suspecting that the SunCube is a fraud.

There is absolutely no proof that there is a single suncube actually installed and running. Likewise, there is no verifiable proof that their system delivers the output claimed. None of the licensees have manufactured, installed, or sold a single system. The U.S. licensee remains secret and undisclosed. Multiple deadlines have past. The product remains intriguing vaporware.

The company's employees have lied to me on several occassions (statements independently verified as being false). I read through the last four months worth of postings on the yahoo sungrid forum about the SunCubes.

Greg Watson is now claiming that his "legal people" will not let him sell Suncubes until he gets the IEC 61208 solar concentrator certification (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SunGr... . However, there is no IEC standard yet, the working group has not delivered a final standard despite seven years of meetings and work, there will not be a standard for another 12-18+ months (with continuing uncertainty about how to actually measure concentrator output given the myriad design and concentration approaches and uses of tracking on one or two axis being a major barrier to radification), there will be no products certified under this standard for another 6-12 months after the final standard is approved, and both UL and the California Energy Commission have decided to take an alternate certification route (UL engineering inspection) as an alternative given the long gap (something that Greg has known since I informed him of this alternative in September 2007).

This [is the] latest excuse from Greg. He has a long history of failing to deliver on promises and claims.

But then Greg Watson had a word in his ear!!

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Re: Greg Watson and the NDA trick    27-Oct-09 04:10 pm   
What Rover doesn't know is that Dr Richard P George (via Lite Solar) is a
former failed US SCIG licensee, just out to try to screw us up with more
lies. In fact, up until I read his recent posting (hey Rover you actually
did me a favour posting that!), he was in daily contact trying to discuss
doing business with us again. Sorry Rich but the only folks you will be
hearing from are our legal guys. Hey Rich, we have your signed NDA and all
your emails. Remember?

So Richard got scared and wrote this one!


----- Original Message -----
From: Richard George
To: 'Andrew Left'
Cc: Greg Watson
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:44 AM
Subject: RE: green and gold energy

Andrew,

The SunCube technology is viable and their design is very solid. The basic concept is to have a module with one square meter of collection area feeding the light to nine fresnel lenses that focus the light on nine Emcore tripple junction 37% efficiency CPV chips. This module is then integrated with a two axis tracking system. Some of the advantages of this design is that they can be mounted on roofs, the weight is low (about the same as a flat plate monocrystalline or polycrystalline module), it can be handled and installed without cranes, it doesn't have the wind load problems that larger arrays (e.g. Solfocus; any array 2KW to 11KW on a 2 axis tracker - a big PV sail), and it should be relatively easy to mass manufacture.

I read your reports on Emcore. You made a misstatement in one about their tripple junction CPV chips being 100X more expensive than standard PV. This is true when comparing their space applications to terrestrial flat plate pv at one sun concentration (e.g. no concentration) . However, this is only true when comparing a unit of size (e.g. one square meter of Emcore's tripple junction cells vs one square meter of Sunpower A300 cells). When one accounts for concentration, the costs drop dramatically. The SunCubes operate at ~1100 suns. Other competitors using the same Emcore CPV chips are using them at concentrations between 500X and 1200X. Essentially, these applications use a chip 1 square centimeter in size but that one chip harvests the power of 1 square foot worth of sunlight at 37% efficiency. Going back to the one square meter of Emcore's tripple junction cells vs one square meter of Sunpower A300 cells example, the one square meter of Emcore cells operating at 1100 suns generates ~300,000 watts of power while the 1 square meter of Sunpower's monocrystalline cells (SunPower 305 module) operating without concentration generates 187 watts of power. The Emcore chips use significantly less silicon per watt of power output and use inexpensive fresnel lens or reflective materials to focus the light from a large area onto their

I cannot discuss commercial size orders at this time but I am in the process of scheduling trips to Australia and South Korea to meet with Green and Gold Energy and their Korean licensee, ES Systems, in the next month or two. A colleague will be visiting their Indian licensee in Pune India as well. I would prefer to withold any further comments until I have had the chance to complete these visits. In addition, there are a lot of positive developments and progress here that are not publicly available at this time.

I have reviewed and talked with every CPV player that has a realistic chance of shipping product in the next two years and plenty more that are further behind. Green and Gold Energy and their licensees are significantly further ahead everyone else in this industry and will ship more product this year than the rest of the industry combined.
Blah de blah

Dr. Richard George


Ah yes...the old NDA trick...
Nice one Greggy!
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Subject: RE: SunCube Fiasco
From: Keef
Date: 14 Jul 09 - 06:47 PM

He has NEVER sold a single one.
All he sells is "licenses" for million dollar sums.
He then makes perpetual excuses...(working on the new Mark 93.2 version, coming real soon etc)
In the meantime licensees are encouraged to seek investors for the soon to be built "SUNPUBE SOLAR FARMS".

This is not some paranoid delusion on my part.
I know the facts because I have been following his trail of lies for several years.

He will have a hard time finding any more victims, I have kept my promise to follow him all over the web and counter his lies, false promises and sanctimonious bilge about saving our small blue planet!!

He has even spawned an imitator
SUNSNEAKER VIDEO

Same deal only BIGGER.
Just a mockup of a Concenrated Photo Voltaic system.
A crappy video, UNBELIEVABLE performance claims.
Lots of technobabble that is easily demolished by the techno savvy.
Multiple licences sold around the world, $20M raised on the NZ stock exchange.
Attempted float of a gazillion shares on the Frankfurt stock exchange


"SSE finally overcomes all the hurdles and has now listed on the Frankfurt Stock Exchange. They listed with 687,193,558 shares issued and current quote 1.60 Euros."

That announcement seems to have been a tad premature.
Hopefully the Frankfurt stock exchange has woken up to the attempted MEGA SCAM.

Nobody likes me...I am spoiling the scams....BOO HOOO!!

Subject: RE: SunCube Fiasco
From: Peace
Date: 14 Jul 09 - 01:39 AM

Is he still selling the things?

Subject: RE: SunCube Fiasco
From: GUEST,Keef
Date: 14 Jul 09 - 01:36 AM

Whatever it takes!

I bet Watson is sorry he pissed me off.
Watched a show about Madoff last night.
People lost their life savings, people suicided.
THAT is sad.

Subject: RE: SunCube Fiasco
From: Amergin
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 10:44 PM

wow...some one seems to be having a internet conversation with himself....how sad....

Subject: RE: SunCube Fiasco
From: GUEST,Keef
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 10:10 PM

Suncube...The Movie         

SUNCUBE.....THE MOVIE

Starring Gregory Watson as the MAD Professor
and George Zoumis as his technical assistant
(you wanna champagne Greggy? Drink to the scam perhaps?)
Thrill to the excitement as the SUNPUBE eagerly seeks the sun.
Hear the mighty meccano gears grind themselves into destruction.
Wonder at the amazing POWER of the SUNPUBE as it produces an amazing 25.3 VOLTS (no load!)
Gaze upon the natural beauty of the SUNPUBE and dream of how wonderful your home could look with six of these works of art bolted to your shingles.
Look..up in the sky...is it a bird...is it a plane?
NO ...it's a squadron of PIGS
OINK OINK OINK OINK
flap flap

WOOF!!

Subject: RE: SunCube Fiasco
From: Keef
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 07:39 PM

Yes...I said PONZI
I've been saying it for years but nobody would listen.
Same as MADOFF.

The Big Lie (German: Große Lüge) is a propaganda technique. The expression was coined by Adolf Hitler in his 1925 autobiography Mein Kampf for a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously".

Just as true today!!

Subject: RE: SunCube Fiasco
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 07:18 PM

20% per annum?

Did anyone say Ponzi scheme?

Subject: RE: SunCube Fiasco
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 07:16 PM

100

Subject: RE: SunCube Fiasco
From: Keef
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 06:00 PM

Where's the harm you might say?
Well, apart from the THOUSANDS of solar users (I'm one) who have put their flat panel purchases on hold waiting for the new whizz bang Solar Pube......

Watson is set to have another go at his "mum and dad" investors scam.

Hot off the SUBALLS FORUM

Hi All,

GGE has initiated the process of discussion with various Australian and
overseas electricity retailers, electricity distribution businesses, state
and local governments to enable a roll out of small 10 kW to 30 kW SunCube
Energy Farms (SEF) that will be investor owned.

Due to the small size and small land foot print it is envisioned that quite
a lot will be build as embedded SEFs deep inside residential and commercial
precincts to assist peak summer time load reduction as an added benefit to
the distribution grid owner.

We are working on an investment prospectus which will target a 20% ROI per
year, for 20 years.

All the best,
Green and Gold Energy Pty., Ltd
Greg Watson, CEO
7 Provident Avenue, Glynde, 5070
South Australia, Australia, [phone]
http://www.greenandgoldenergy.com.au

"SunCube" and "SunBall Solar Battery" are
trademarks of Green and Gold Energy Pty Ltd


20% return?

PIG'S ARSE I SAY.

Will he get away with floating this outrageous scam?
Most likely he will, have a look at this video where SKY NEWS gives a free leg up to another hilarious scam.
FREE ENERGY SCAM

Subject: RE: SunCube Fiasco
From: Keef
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 05:43 PM

Hi Richard
The sadly deluded Emcore investors still refuse to admit that they have been right royally rogered.
They maintain that the only person in the entire world who questions the integrity of Saint Watson is that annoying bastard Keef.

Apparently Richard you are just another of my multiple personalities.

Both of me beg to disagree with that!!

Multiple personality disorder?