Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 04:12 PM

What a dreadful song.

Whether she sings a version of 'Seven Drunken Nights', 'High Germany' or 'You belong to Me' - she makes them all sound the same.

Can't stand her poppy pap but then can't stand her interpretations of traddy stuff either.

The accent, whether it is or not, comes across as an affectation. (Rather like Mike Scott's extreme pronunciation of lyrics in later Waterboys stuff.) The fact that it is noticeable and that it makes the (my?) ears ache seems wrong.

'Orrible. Just 'orrible.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Dave Roberts
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 08:16 PM

On the other hand, I listen to Kate Rusby's songs and they please me very much. I get pleasure from listening to them and any thoughts of whether or not Ms R's treatment of a given song is 'true folk' are far from my mind.
The only slightly controversial thing I have to say is that, in my opinion, people should abandon this 'folkier than thou' attitude and just listen to the music they like.
If I decide that, for example, 'Long Haired Lover From Liverpool' is a valid 'folk song' then I will stick to that opinion come what may.
But it's quite astonishing to me that people just can't (REALLY can't) understand that you either like something or you don't and that attempts to change your likes or dislikes are doomed to failure.
For God's sake, that is exactly what liking, or disliking, something is all about. It's your own preference.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Rasener
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 05:03 AM

I can't beleieve how this thread has over 200 posts.

Somebody decides to put a link to a singer to share with other people if they so choose.

Most of the posts are totally off beam and in some cases not acceptable on most forums.

Com eon moderators get a grip on things!!!

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 10:19 AM

Bit late for all that, Villan. It's run out of steam.

Rather like the tired, same-old-same-old from Ruzzer.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Rasener
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 10:28 AM

Who's Ruzzer?

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Rasener
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 10:29 AM

Oh doh ruzzer being Rusby!!!

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: GUEST,Sarah, Barnsley
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 07:46 PM

Our Kate doesn't have a *real* barnsley accent - otherwise noone from out of Tarn would understand what she's singing.

*This* is a real Barnsley accent:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=56291344

(might be some swearing in there, can't tell)

Loove Sarah x

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 08:19 PM

You don't have to go Barnsley to get Barnsley Chops.

I went down to the shop
To get meself a Barnsley Chop
Plenty of gravy, glass o' rum
Come on luv, let's feel your bum.

Some lines from a poem I wrote when I had a gig in Barnsley. I don't remember the rest of the poem.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 03:10 AM

Careful Al or some feminist might call you a pervert too! ROFLOL

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 03:05 PM

I think I have got most of the points. Very unusual for me - Took me ages to read the thread and I do have a very low boredom threshold so I suppose there must be something interesting in there.

I must say that, following some recent discussions on the etiquette of making disparaging remarks about other peoples likes or dislikes, I am keen to stay possitive. I am no big fan of Kate Rusby for a few reasons but I am perfectly happy to accept that other people love the stuff she does. I happen to like some stuff that other describe as crap but what the heck. Without the ability to produce crap we would all be in a sorry state:-) I did like her version of 'Village Green Preservation Society' but it doesn't hold a candle to Ray Davis' original version. That brings me to the point I realy do not understand -

If we are no longer to use the term folk as it has become meaningless and if we can't call any music from England but traditional dance music 'English Music' (Ref "And it's even worse to try and con people into thinking MOR mainstream shit is English music too") then what can we call music performed by any other English musician? Take the afore mentioned Mr Davis for instance. He is English. His music is recognisably English and it seems, to me, far from 'MOR mainstream shit'. What phrase do we use for it? Seriously?

To call it simply "Music" would work but, unfortunately, people, including me, do need some sort of guidance as to what we may or may not like. There are surprises in all styles but, generaly speaking, I will not go out of my way for an Opera or Jazz concert. I need to know in advance what I am letting myself in for, sad as it may sound. Generaly I will enjoy most of what is on offer at a folk festival but will only find a few enjoyable moments at a rave.

So, seeing as we have discussed everything from dialects to the oppression of women on a music thread how about we now find out just what categories of music are acceptable. Apart from English dance and MOR crap of course.

BTW - Diane is indeed knowledgeable and often witty but you can always tell when she is winding someone up. Her keyboard is clicking...

Cheers

Dave

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 04:40 PM

One of the things I (and plenty of others) dislike about the song under discussion is not quite that it signifies women's oppression but that it attempts to justify and rationalise ownership of one human being by another, regardless of gender. This is a bit sick and always wrong, no matter what accent or dialect it's warbled in. When the melodic structure is further ruined and, in the case of the Shrek soundtrack, the horrendously poor diction wanders way out of tune, it's just bad music.

No-one (certainly not me) said the only English music is 'traditional dance music'. Music played in England for dancing isn't exclusively 'English' nor 'traditional but is played in a recognisable English style. Opera by English composers is English music and so are the Kinks. But the kRusby covering Village Green Preservation Society as the soundtrack for a sitcom doesn't make it merit the description of English music in that sense. It's a commercial pop cover.

Jazz is clearly not English music since it originated from black musicians in New Orleans and Chicago. But English music can and does incorporate jazz chords and rhythmic structures, the most obvious current example (though by no means the sole example) being Bellowhead. Why this works with jazz without dumbing down the genre but is universally disastrous when the mainstream pop world has one of its periodic forays into what it imagines is 'f*lk' music is, I think, down to two factors:

(a) a far higher standard of musicianship and
(b) an avoidance of cultural vandalism.

Every now and then Tin Pan Alley (or the Brill building) decrees that a tinge of f*lk is going to be the new whatever and stuff like hurdy-gurdies and mildly exotic drums are 'kewl'. That's just one of the reasons why the term needs binning because it's become so meaningless and you get people thinking it comprises any wifty-wafty, new-agey, snigger-snoggery MOR shit.

There's not a trace of wit or winding up in this post. I'm just pissed off that it's necessary to click the keyboard and write it down.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: RTim
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 05:10 PM

Diane raises a very interesting point, one that maybe "should?" have it's own thread (there probably is one somewhere?)- ie. Whether certain songs are still appropriate, ie. - Ownership over some one?
How does this stack up with the question of singing about Incest or murder or wife beating or other such foul deeds?
Should we still sing them, ie. continue the Tradition, or should they be "amended" to make them more "modern" and approprate?

Tim Radford

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Cluin
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 05:12 PM

Oh for chrissake, it's a love song!

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 05:15 PM

OK.

Is MOR pop not English then? I thought it was a truly English phenomenon. Well, maybe US phenomenon perfected by the English:-) If it is then Kate R (and Katie Melua and Amy Winehouse and any number of new female snigers) is a perfect example of English music. Not the type that you and I like admitedly but English music all the same.

What about when new-agey stuff does come good? Say The Incredible String Band? Or the sniger-snoggery of Richard Thompson? Can we not claim that as folk either? Must say I can't think of a wifty-wafty example. But then again I have only come on the 'puter coz I'm getting scared of Resident Evil on Film 4!

In case I am killed by a zombie I admit that the last bit was just a cheap soundbite I could not resist:-)

Cheers

Dave

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 05:52 PM

Of course it doesn't signify the oppression of women - it' usually sung by women, or by a hermaproditic male. I suppose if one is a literalist, totally devoid of imagination, one might view the song as an expression of ownership of one person by another. Since I'm not so fussy or literalistic, I view it as an expression of a request for honoring a mutual pledge of fidelity made by two consenting teenagers who think they're adults. Now, I suppose this may be offensive to those who find monogamy offensive, but what the hell....

I keep getting complaints about a Certain Someone who is allegedly spoiling this thread. This thread started out pointing to a YouTube recording of a woman singing a 1950's pop song, and the thread originator thought that was nice. And actually, that's about all that could be said about the recording - that it was on YouTube and that somebody liked it. The thread should have ended there. Ho, hum.

Well, that Certain Someone came in and vehemently disagreed, saying that the song was oppressive and that it was vulgar for someone who calls herself a Folk Musician to sing such a song, and so on, and so on, and so on. So, the thread that should have ended with two posts, is now at 211 or so, mostly with post from people who say that the Certain Someone is vulgar and oppressive and unspeakably nasty.

I dunno. The thread was worth about one post. The rest of it has been mildly entertaining squabble, with some valid posts here and there, but I really don't think it's horrible. And if that Certain Someone hadn't posted to this thread, how many of the rest of you would have posted?

Say, isn't there a 1950's song about a Certain Someone that some would-be folksinger can resurrect? Maybe we should all sing this song to our very own Certain Someone.

You are my Someone
My Certain Someone
And you are mine, dear,
And I'm yours. too.
'Coz you're my Someone,
My Certain Someone
And I hope that I'm your Someone, too.

(To the tune of "You Are My Sunshine," another obscenely possessive song)

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 06:04 PM

Well, the Zombies didn't get me. I'm scared of the men in white coats now though. And that Mila whassername will come for me with a pump action shotgun while clothed only in two kleenex tissues...

I do tend to avoid cards with 'To My Wife'. She is not mine, she is her own person. But it is a weird quirk of mine and I think it is daft to get upset about it. Like Joe said if we took all lyrics literaly we would get upset by half the stuff we hear! Mind you, there is another thread going about Mungo Jerry and the line 'If her Daddy's rich, take her out for a meal; If her Daddy's poor just do what you feel' always had me squirming! Even in those non-PC days.

G'night all.

D.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 06:06 PM

Oh - and just before I go - does anyone else find Sting's 'Every step you take' as scary as I do? Boy, does he have a control problem!

D.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 06:21 PM

None of the snigers (Freudian slip of keyboard?) you mention are rooted in a tradition, though, are they? Melua, Winehouse and kRusby are not, by any stretch of the imagination, perfect examples of anything recognisably and intrinsically English.

Apart from Richard Thompson, obviously, who can be when he feels like it - Mock Tudor, deeply rooted in the tradition of the middle-class English suburbs, another side of Metroland.

And the ISB. Certainly not 'new-agey'. Clive and Robin started off as a duo very much in the tradition and indeed produced an album At The Pure Fountain only a couple of years ago which certainly was.

It's not in the slightest bit hard to determine whether a music is rooted or not. Just think of English football . . . calls itself 'English' but it's not very, is it?

Re your telly-watching: it gets worse. Go and watch Bergman on BBC2.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 06:28 PM

it was vulgar for someone who calls herself a Folk Musician to sing such a song

Just in case anyone thinks it was me who said that (did anybody?), it wasn't.
I would never call the kRusby a 'Folk Musician' in the first place.

Nor did I say anything like the song being about 'oppression of women'. I said it was extremely distasteful for any human being of whatever gender to claim ownership of another.

Yes, Every Step You Take is extremely scary. It's astonishing how many people mistake what that's about too.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 06:55 PM

"I do tend to avoid cards with 'To My Wife'."

I hate that, but I despise "My other half" even more. What, are you not whole on your own?

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: GUEST,Ay Up
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 07:15 PM

- One of the things I (and plenty of others) dislike about the song under discussion is not quite that it signifies women's oppression but that it attempts to justify and rationalise ownership of one human being by another, regardless of gender. This is a bit sick and always wrong, no matter what accent or dialect it's warbled in. When the melodic structure is further ruined and, in the case of the Shrek soundtrack, the horrendously poor diction wanders way out of tune, it's just bad music. -


Another song of 'oppression' *grin*

You Belong To Me

One more

Belong to me you do *wink*

Being a person in love might I just say how beautiful it is to feel that you belong to someone and that they belong to you. If you don't feel this way then it's not love.

- This is a bit sick and always wrong, no matter what accent or dialect it's warbled in. -

Nowt to do with sickness or oppression - simply all to do with love.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: GUEST,Ay Up
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 07:20 PM

- What, are you not whole on your own? -

You can be whole on your own, but to be whole because of someone else, is a whole other world.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: TheSnail
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 07:54 PM

Thought I'd better have a look at the YouTube link to see what the fuss was about. It doesn't do much for me; not one of her best. Perhaps it was because I was expecting this.

Remarkable facial resemblance though.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 08:35 PM

Betty Boop sounded better, though.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 09:31 PM

Ay Up, you are right, songs denoting possession have got to go. Let's start with My Jo, and My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: GUEST,Chuck
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 09:44 PM

err... "My Ding-a-ling" !!!!?????

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 10:05 PM

"He's just My Bill." Sexist tripe!

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: GUEST,Mike Rogers
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 03:57 AM

'Oppression', 'ownership'?
What twaddle. What unmitigated balderdash.

As I understand it, the song was written in the early 1950s when a lot of US troops and civilians were serving overseas or waking up to the joys of travelling. Some of these guys found the company of local girls irresistible - the popularity of songs like 'Filipino Baby', 'Geisha Girl' and 'Fraulein' (and many others) in the country genre testifies to this. It would be understandable if the 'girl at home' might have the odd concern. As indeed might the 'boy away from home' have about getting a 'Dear John' letter.
Whether any of these thoughts were in the songwriter's mind I have no idea but it certainly would explain why the song was requested repeatedly on radio.

I shudder to think what people make of 'My Boy Lollipop' or 'Wear My Ring Around Your Neck'.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 04:15 AM

No - none of the snigers (no slip - I enjoy Snigers nights at the club but better still is a Genghis Nirst) are rooted in tradition but they ARE English. My point is that MOR pop, as provided by these ladies, is as English now as anything rooted in tradition. Just as, sadly, we are stuck with the nonsense that goes with football nowadays. Incidentaly, I was talking to a collegue who is heavily 'into' Jazz and, apparantly, this same discussion is going on about Melua amongst afficionados of that genre!

What's wrong with my TV habits anyway? I watched 'Pitch Black' the night before and I am disappointed that 'Doom' is not on tonight! Well, not realy, I am going out anyway. Nice to not be on call:-) You can't beat big guns and gore. On that point I just remembered one of my favourite definitions of English music - An Army can march to it... (Joking - Honest!)

Last, for now, how else can 'every step' be interpreted? Other than a worrying song by a stalker? Incidentaly, did you ever hear the Travis version of Britney Spears (now there IS MOR pop!) 'Hit me baby one more time'? They really did show it up for the sick little ditty it was.

D.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 04:25 AM

I spent several days away from this thread and said I wouldn't read it. But I just did.

Somebody's been through it zapping the lies and ever-so-bizarre derogatory crap from the testosterone-fuelled brigade in full cry but left in all my ripostes so it looks like I'm yelling at Peter Hitchens on the telly with the sound off.

Now that the Moon-In-June battalion has entered stage left clutching faded blooms and nauseously-versed cards from the petrol station, I see once more a need which will doubtless be bayed at by said TFB to decry the folly of succumbing to being half a person and a mere item of paraphernalia at the behest of a crooner whose grasp of geographical detail is so scant as to claim that the pyramids are situated along the Nile. They're not. Don't believe a word of it.

I haven't a clue why TFB squadron leader Mr Rogers mentions 'c**ntry'. The topic is an English singer doing an outdated (and poor) 50s American pop song rather disinterestedly in a Yorkshire accent, and whether or not this might have any merit.

I say it doesn't: the song is crap musically and ideologically, the performance is poor on diction and musicianship (though not quite as bad as the Shrek one) and bears no relationship to roots, tradition or a sense of place. Someone has said 'it's just a girl (a girl?) singing a song. So what place can it possibly have in a forum supposedly devoted to musics which are indigenous to or rooted in the place where you are and which participants are invited to compare and contrast?

If Mr Rogers (and others) wants instead to discuss the sort of trash listed, there might be a scribbling board somewhere else where he can and he might like to seek it out.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: GUEST,MikeRogers
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 04:57 AM

First time I've been called 'testosterone-fuelled' or a Squadron Leader. Frankly, at my time of life I would have hoped to have made Group Captain at least.

The song is question was originally a COUNTRY hit - geddit? Do wake up Mrs Easby. I've already mentioned my dislike of the Rusby interpretation. And rest assured, you won't be my 'target for tonight' (or any other night)...........

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 05:23 AM

I think you're getting a little paranoid, Diane. There were four posts deleted from this thread, all four from a person named Fadge Boy, whose attacks were a little too personal. The last deleted post was posted August 8. Sorry, but nobody's "been through it zapping the lies and ever-so-bizarre derogatory crap from the testosterone-fuelled brigade."
If your posts don't make sense when you look at them now, maybe it's because they don't make sense....
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Brakn
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 05:27 AM

lol

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 05:36 AM

Oh well.
Joe's zapping explanation answers Mike Rogers' query about why he was being described as 'testosterone-fuelled'
He wasn't. That phrase (not invented by me but apt) refers to a specific pack of baying hounds.
They know who they are.
Odd though how some people are incapable of contextualising and assume everything is all about them.

My posts make sense whether they are:

(a) imparting information or
(b) refuting bollocks.

When the latter, it becomes a little difficult for readers to know what I was replying to. Like the Fadge person who had extensive delusions of having seen me some place where I was not.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 05:37 AM

Mike's posting was really interesting. It really gives the song a fascinating historical perspective. And in a strange way it gives a perspective on our parents' relationships. And the way they saw them.

It was well worth two hundred posts of relative tripe to come up with a jewel like that. Most of the nonsense was because we were imposing our views on a song from a bygone age.

You know what Alan Bennet says about John Betjeman on archictecture -he could interpret that remotest of periods - the recent past. Well you did something similar Mike - well done!

It makes you realise the layers of misunderstanding which must accumulate over a three hundred year old folk song. And in truth why that stuff feels 'wrong' to an awful lot of people.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 05:57 AM

Kate Rusby is a studio guest on Mike Harding's show tonight. Radio 2 at 7pm.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 06:16 AM

HGope she sings "You Belong to Me.....which was written by a WOMAN..Chilton Price......oppressed perhaps but not for aforementioned reasons. What a hornets nest of hooha........

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Brakn
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 06:19 AM

Pee Wee King wrote it.

See here.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Brakn
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 06:21 AM

oops you're right.....

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: GUEST,Ay Up
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 08:08 AM

- My posts make sense whether they are:

(a) imparting information or
(b) refuting bollocks. -


Should the word refuting actually read - writing?

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Rasener
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 08:32 AM

LMAO GUEST Ay Up. Made my day :-)

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 09:05 AM

I've looked at the the oddly monickered Guest, Ay Up's fortunately few postings.
They comprise two paeons of praise for the Shrek soundtrack, a frankly baffling assertion that a person isn't whole unless arbitrarily spliced with another (is this the Royal We(e) syndrome?) and a wholly incomprehensible and pointless airline ad.

So, well up in the spouting bollocks stakes, but not a scrap of evidence of the slightest vestige of musical knowledge, nor of operating as an actual human being, nor indeed, even, of any intention to treat another as such.

Thing is, I am adept at writing bollocks if I feel like it. It's the over-abundance of examples on here to utilise as models. However, as Dave the ex-Gnome pointed out, those with just half an eye on what's going on (yes, I know that's not many) know when I'm doing it, and why.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 10:56 AM

Brakn....read your own reference and you will find that "Price wrote the song".......
Best wishes, Mike.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 10:57 AM

OOps..you realised..sorry!

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 11:25 AM

- Thing is, I am adept at writing bollocks if I feel like it. -

Now, now I think you underestimate yourself here, for it seems to me that you are also able to do it even when you're not feeling like it.

Credit where credit is due.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: GUEST,Ay Up
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 11:26 AM

Pardon me for forgetting my namein the Guest post above this.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: GUEST,Ay Up
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 11:30 AM

"There was an ol' woman from Frollocks
Who loved to write nothing but B****cks"

.........

Over to you Folks, I'd not want to spoil your fun here.

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 11:44 AM

I don't think there is such a place as 'Frollocks'.

I'm sure you can come up with a better premise for us to build on...

:D

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: GUEST,Crazy Man Michael
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 11:59 AM

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: Brakn
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 06:19 AM

Pee Wee King wrote it.

and you give the Wikipedia entry on the song as your reference, Perhaps, Brakn, you should read the whole damn thing instead of selectively editing out the REAL composer of You Belong To Me, CHILTON PRICE

from the Wikipedia entry, as follows:

"It is credited to three writers: Pee Wee King, Redd Stewart, and Chilton Price. Actually PRICE WROTE THE SONG, and GAVE RIGHTS TO THE OTHER TWO IN EXCHANGE FOR PUBLICITY. She did this because of the success of an earlier hit which she had written, "Slow Poke," which had done so well with a similar arrangement that she felt she could do better by ceding partial credit for authorship to King and Stewart, rather than trying to publicize the song herself [1].

The original version of the song was recorded by Sue Thompson on Mercury's country label, soon covered by Patti Page, whose version was issued by Mercury as catalog number 5899, with the flip side "I Went to Your Wedding" (a bigger Patti Page hit, reaching #1). It entered the Billboard chart on August 22, 1952, and lasted 12 weeks on the chart, peaking at #4."

Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me'
From: GUEST,Crazy Man Michael
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 12:04 PM

Being attacked by the likes of Ay Up is rather like being mauled by a six week old kitten, you admire its tenacity and are really amused by its presumption :-D