Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: KenM
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 08:56 PM

Alright, I suspect that the photo on the cover of 33 1/3 was taken circa 1969. I remember Bruce from then and while he has most certainly aged gracefully (haven't we all?), I would respectfully suggest that were he to still have it, it would be, shall we say, a tad snug. Certainly, were I still to have my fatigue jacket from those days, I would only take it out and look at it for sentimental reasons and certainly not to try and fit over this current frame.

Bruce: Thank you for educating us on the importance of clean firefighting clothing. I was impressed by the way you "suggested" to rookies that they launder their equipment. You previously told me about how you dealt with someone who drove a vehicle dangerously close to a burning gasoline truck.. Man, you guys are a tough crowd.

With respect to your dehydration incident, a number of years ago, I pulled out of a 50 mile trail race in Arkansas when the cramps in my legs became so severe that I kept falling down. I ended up in the hospital, like you, with a number of IVs in me, followed by copious amounts of Gatorade (I will leave it to Pat to tell you her and the physician's reaction when I asked if I could substitute the Gatorade for beer). Like you, I was stunned with how little you pee after all that liquid poured and injected into you.

The theme of the socks has taken on a mind of its own and I will leave that for more fashion conscious people on this thread.

I will say, however, that having read my last posting, I may be able to lay claim to the most travelled version of 33 1/3 unless one of our friends (and your fans) in the UK have criss-crossed the Atlantic a few times with it.

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 08:57 PM

I was talking about The Branches & Roots Festival, two years ago, and I think when we met he had the socks, or maybe the vids affected my memory. Maybe he took 'em off before going on stage...I was too busy getting ready...But tattoos of socks would be different...Never have to change 'em, run through a puddle and you're good to go...

So, who was holding the rifle?

bob

Uh. working on my Spanish: Tengo gusto de usted...Usted es mi amigo, gonna hold on a bit before I spring "Te quiero" on her...

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: KenM
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 10:37 PM

I think the tattoo socks have a great possibility except for those of us still in the in the dress-up work world where we have to coordinate our sock color with the rest of our wardrobe. You know, the brown tattoo socks just don't go with the blue pinstripe suit. And, after we have left that world.....what would those tattooed feet look like on the beach?

As for "Te Quiero", given everything else you have said about this lady, you need to go for it. Big rewards come from big risks. Besides, you don't need that turkey, Murdoch, practicing that line on her before you :-)

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Azizi
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 01:20 AM

Here's a quote from a viewer of the YouTube movie clip whose link that Bob gave in his 10 Sep 08 - 04:56 PM post:

"Quit staying conformed to your old ideals. I have to say that a majority of "so called scientists/Intellectuals" only want to believe win what they want. If it does not go along with what they want to believe they shoot it down, even if it has been proven as a fact they fabricate counter evidence so that they can remain superior. With their high and mighty smugness it is most likely that they will never see what is true because they are stuck in a certain thought process".

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I think on the whole, I believe this clip's underlying {or is it "overarching"?} message.

But it reminded me of a radio segment years ago that I remembered someone telling me about in which a person cut up a piece of celery and some heavy duty microphones reportedly picked up the celery screaming. For a while there, I couldn't eat celery without thinking about that. And I'm a wanna be vegetarian, so that was rough for me-and I suppose the celery & other vegetables.

And my main problem with this clip is that the woman who waas shown providing the commentary was Sarah Palinish in her looks {I'm referring to the way she wore her dark hair and the Sarah Palin type eyeglasses she had on. And, because of that resemblance to McCain's curious vice-presidential choice, I kept waiting for the "lipstick on a pig" political punch line, but it never came.

I almost feel cheated.

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 05:27 AM

The shorts and socks are part of the charm of the youtube videos.

Wearing what you want to wear makes you feel "free".

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 11:49 AM

Hi Kids/Azizi: Personally. I have written Love & Gratitude on my water container. If you read the book, there is information in there that just fits in so well with other teachings. I still Bless & give Thanks for the food I eat...Everytime a bill comes in, I Bless it and give Thanks that I'm able to pay it. It may seem silly to you, but after what I've been through, let me tell yas...It makes a whole lot of sense to me...The mind is a radio, it sends and receives signals. And what you hold as thoughts can change your life...

The Senorita is taking me to visit a Kriya Yoga Master from India who is visiting Montreal this week-end. Turns out we've read the same books! "Bob, I can't Beeeleeeve it..." she tells me with that cute Spanish accent...Flashback to my hospital stay where I tell a nurse from India that there is a secondary brain in the heart...She responds in a heartbeat..."Not only is there another brain in the heart, but all other organs have one that can be directed by the mind..."

Yikes! Just when you think you know everything...

So, hope this post isn't too far off topic. It's still about "Matters of the Heart..."
bob

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Azizi
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 12:19 PM

This isn't really off topic too much, and if it is then it's still all good since eclectic would be a good descriptive word to use for this thread.

Bob, and other readers of this thread who may be interested, check out this excerpt from an online article titled "The Elements":

1.WATER

(A metaphysical dissertation on the various aspects of the watery element .)

Of the four elements in nature Earth , Air , Fire , and Water ( distinct from the chemical elements of the Periodic Table ) "Water" is symbolic of the " Watery Chaos" conceived in metaphysical thought to have preceded the formation of matter. The Ancient Egyptians went a bit further and suggested it was "milky", and in the process of creation became "curdy" as particles precipitated to form substance .In Indian philosophy this was firstly held in a state of potential called "Mulaprakriti", and in the objective "Prakriti", but the idea of a milky medium was more appealing and gave rise to the material source of this liquid to be held sacred and so the cow is still allowed this distinction , and the privilege of wandering free and to forage in India today. In Egypt, the Horns of the Cow became associated with the Crescent Moon and the Goddess Isis, and later found Christian expression on the Crown of Mary, the Mother of Christ.

The chemical composition of water is H2O , two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom per molecule, and can be regarded as a reflection of the Universal Triplicity inherent in all things . It is unique in some of its physical properties, expanding instead of contracting when frozen, and so floats on the surface. The importance of water in life cannot be over-emphasised, it began in the ocean and blood serum still maintains its salinity. The human body is made up of a vast number of cells, which act in concert in a very complex ecology of subordinate ecosystems. There is a relationship with the number 6 in septenate cosmogony of interchange between "watery planes"which are the 6th.levels. It is interesting to note, that snowflakes are never found to be duplicated, and are made in the form of a hexagon, so that all the arms of a snowflake radiate from a centre at an angle of 60 degrees.

In religious symbology Water is the same as Wine representing Spirit, and comes from above. In the formation of the six-pointed star, which is the sign of Solomon and the Star of David, this is visualised as a descending triangle point downwards meeting the ascending triangle of the Fire of Kundalini to form the hexagon, as mentioned elsewhere in the culmination of an evolutionary phase. The role of the "watery" Neptunian influence is of significance, as energy flows from there and concentrates on three psychic centres linking the head centres, the heart centre and the solar plexus centre ( ref'." number 6" , in the dissertation on "Number")...

http://www.users.bigpond.com/phdaley/elements.htm

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Azizi
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 12:43 PM

Here's some information about two water goddesses whose worship began in West Africa and is now also found in the Caribbean, Brazil, and elsewhere:

"Yemaya: [pronounced yeah-MAH-yah]; Great Goddess; Ocean Mother; mother of all the orishas.

Moon / Full Moon /Crescent Moon / Water / Saturday
African, Afro-Caribbean; Afro-Brazilian; Culture/Origin: West African (Yoruba, Nigeria)

"..Yemaya is a West African creation goddess, often depicted as a mermaid. She is associated with the moon, the ocean and female mysteries. Typically portrayed as a beautiful woman, Yemaya governs the household and intervenes in women's affairs. She is a merciful goddess, invoked by women for aid in childbirth, love and healing. She rules over the conception and birth of children and ensures their safety during childhood. As a creation goddess, Yemaya's womb spilled forth the fourteen Yoruba goddesses and gods, and the breaking of her uterine waters caused a great flood, which created the oceans. From her body the first human woman and man, who became the parents of all mortal beings on earth, were born...

Yemaya...rules the sea, the Moon, dreams, deep secrets, sea shells, ancient wisdom, salt water, fresh water, ocean secrets, the collective unconscious, and the surface of the ocean, seas, and lakes. Her many titles include Queen of Witches, Mother of Fishes, The Constantly Coming Woman, The Ocean Mother, Mother of Dreams and Secrets, Mother of All, Mother of the Sea, Holy Queen Sea, The Womb of Creation, Mother of Pearl, Stella Maris (star of the sea), and Yeyé Omo Eja, Mother Whose Children Are the Fish. In Africa she is Mama Watta, Mother of Waters...

The cowrie shell is Yemaya's symbol, and fish are sacred to her. Her jewels include crystals, pearls, and mother of pearl. Blue, white, and silver are Yemaya's colors. Seven is her number. Yemaya is celebrated on February 2 and December 31, when offerings are made to her. She is also honored on September 7, September 9, and on the eve of Summer Solstice, by casting flowers and votive boats into water. There is a Brazilian tradition of the candelaria on December 31, lighting candles on the beach at midnight for Yemanje. Votive boats made from flowers are cast into the sea. It is a good omen for the coming year if she accepts your boat, and carries it out to sea. It is a bad omen if your offering is refused, and your boat is washed back upon the shore"...


-snip-

Ohsun [Osun; pronounced oh SHOON]; Goddess of Sensuality
African, Afro-Caribbean; Afro-Brazilian; Culture/Origin: West African (Yoruba, Nigeria)

"Oshun...the Brazilian Macumba Goddess of the waters-rivers, streams, brooks-is known for her love of beautiful things. She loves to adorn herself, especially in yellows and golds. Her rites at watery places include honoring her with honey and pennies (copper). Her necklace of cowrie shells symbolizes her knowledge and power in divination. It is said that the women dedicated to Oshun carry the special gift of their Goddess. They walk and dance in the most tantalizing and provocative ways. In their walk is the flow of the river. None can escape their charms.

Oshun appears seductively in your life and cajoles you into remembering and honoring your sensuality. Wholeness is nourished by focusing your attention and time on our body, respecting and giving play to your senses and your sensuality. The Goddess is here to tell you that it is time for sensuality. She invites you to follow her lead."

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Azizi
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 12:52 PM

Here are the links to those two online articles:

Yemaya:
http://zer0dmx.tripod.com/gods/yemaya.html

-snip-

Oshun:
http://www.angelfire.com/va/goddesses/oshu.html

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Azizi
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 04:22 PM

Correction:

I have only heard the name Yemaya in songs. There is definitely not any emphasis on the second syllable as I had erroneously written it in one of my post above.

This orisha's {goddess'} name is sometimes written with an accent mark over the "a" in last syllable. However, there appears to be only a slight emphasis in the last syllable.

As at least partial penance for my error, I offer this link to a song/chant in honor of Yemaya:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4pyJ9Df27E&feature=related

-snip-

The great Celia Cruz is the vocalist in this video.

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 08:28 PM

Thanks Azizi...Namaste...bob

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Azizi
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 09:46 PM

My pleasure, Bob.

**

And now, moving right along, I think it's time for to return to the main subject of this thread: Bruce Murdoch's songs.

For those who haven't checked out Bruce's YouYube videos lately, here are the hyperlinks:

I Can See You Now

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You Make My Heart Beat Fast

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As Soon As Possible

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Azizi
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 09:49 PM

"...it's time for to"?

Preview is my friend. I guess I should visit him {or her or it} more often.

:o)

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: GUEST,Bruce's webmaster
Date: 12 Sep 08 - 05:39 PM

Pleased to tell you, we now have Bruce's myspace page up and running.

Bruce - Myspace

BW

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Azizi
Date: 12 Sep 08 - 06:31 PM

Bruce's webmaster, thanks for letting Mudcat members and guests know about Bruce's Myspace page.

I've visited that site and am very impressed.

Would you [or someone else who knows how to do this] be so kind as to post instructions on this thread as to how people become Myspace friends? Do you need to login and join Myspace?

Also, do you need to have a photo in order to join Bruce's or anyone else's friend list? If so, does it have to be your real photo? Could the photograph you select a photo or drawing from the Internet?

And then, once you've selected a photo, how do you put the photo you select on the page along with your screen name? I tried to look this information up using a search engine and read something about needing to use Photobucket. If people don't have a Photobucket account, does that mean that we're not going to be able to do this?

Also, what happens after you join a person's friend's list? Does that mean that the other friends on the list automatically get your email address and that you automatically receive email forwards from them? Maybe this doesn't sound too friendly of me, but I wouldn't like those features.

Thanks, in advance, Bruce's webmaster and/or anyone else who may answer these questions.

Maybe I {and perhaps other people who may also need an easy to follow set of instructions regarding this}, will be even more a part of the 21st century once I [we] learn how to join a person's MySpace group of friends and what that really means.

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 12 Sep 08 - 11:11 PM

Hi Kids: I have found MySpace pretty much staightforward and easy to navigate. First you need to join. This is the point where you must decide to join as an individual wanting to meet friends, or as a musician. The difference is that when you join as a musician, you get a free music player like the on you see on my site. Then, it's pretty much self-explanatory within MySpace, who have done a nice job setting things up...All you need to know is on the site.

No, you do not need to put up a photo, although looking at a gray square is not all that appealing or interesting to anybody checking you out. At this point my page is the same basic, no frills page that I got when I started...No wallpapers or embellishments. Just go on myspace and start clicking on photos or things that interest you. You are then allowed to send a message, or add someone as a friend. You also have the option to block anybody from contacting you. a nice "Anti-Creep" feature. You will not get emails unless you provide that information ON THE SITE. If you have made a mistake in your choice of friends(as in life) it's your option to delete that friend. If somebody sends a request, you either say yes, deny them, or ignore them. If you hit deny, they won't see it. So if you see a wacko...whack 'em...
You can either use a photo or some other uploadable piece of art for your page. Anything you do can be changed, edited. So, not to worry...

Really quite simple and fun. All kinds of stuff to see. As in life just stay away from anything bad and you should be O.K. Everything's under your control...

It's all there waiting for you check it out...If you don't like it you can delete the account...

Azizi: Since you have an interest in Goddesses and such, you could use something like that for your photo. Want to put up some of your songs? Create a musician's account. When you log in, you enter your email, then you create a private password that will only show up as dots to anybody else besides you and the staff at MySpace. MySpace has only sent me relevant information in the near 3 years that I've been with them...bob

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Azizi
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 12:08 AM

Thanks for that information, Bob.

I'm assuming that your sentence about wanting to put up some of your songs was written for anyone who reads your post.

If it was written for me, I'm not an musician, singer, or songwriter. If I must describe my connection with this folk & blues discussion forum, I'd say that I'm a collector of children's rhymes {which I consider an integral part of the folk genre}, I'm a community folklorist interested in the sources and meanings of rhymes and songs, and I love a number of different types of music.

At any rate, Bob, I appreciate your explanation about Myspace.

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Peace
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 05:00 AM

Anyone who has ideas for improvement on the MySpace page please let me know. And, Bob, please do tell your 10,000 friends. Thanks, buddy.

I'll be requesting that this thread be closed on Monday.

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: rumanci
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 06:08 AM

I sincerely hope the thread remains open and echo (below) Mick's comments from way back. I hope they still apply for all the right reasons.   Mudcat should be all about musicians and their music and acknowledging and supporting the gifts and skills in creating and performance that all performers are prepared to put on the line for the benefit of all listeners.


"From: Big Mick - PM
Date: 28 Jul 08 - 10:50 PM

Bruce, I will close the thread if that is your wish. But pay no mind to folks that toss flak. Yours is a perfectly legitimate use of the Mudcat, and those that don't get that are ignorant of the history. Many of us have had threads on this place to make folks aware of our work. This is a long awaited work from an artist many of us have been anxious to hear.

In fact, I have changed my mind. This thread will remain open"

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Azizi
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 08:09 AM

As I wrote in my first post to this thread, I started this thread without Bruce's prior knowledge to "provide an opportunity for people to share their reviews of & their comments about the songs on Bruce's "Matters of the Heart" CD".

In addition to that purpose, somewhere along the way, this thread became a meeting place for folks to kick back & relax, to share their wit, and to share their talents, and to share serious thoughts about a multiple number of subjects. Sometimes people engaged in good nature kidding of Bruce and other people, but, like other comments in this thread, these posts were good natured.

In the 450 plus comments that have been posted to this thread, I never once sensed any animosity, or envy in any of these posts. And I never read any post on this threadthat were racist, or sexist or were any other offensive "ist". For that reason, I'm glad that I did not read the deleted post that Bruce refers to in his 12:51 AM and 04:33 AM comments. I thank the moderator who deleted it, and I thank Bruce for his support. I refuse to let another person's poisonous comments ruin my day and subsequent days, and I refuse to let another person's poisonous comments ruin my thoughts about this thread. Bruce, I hope that you do not give that person the power to ruin this thread for you.

I believe that this thread shows Mudcat at its best. When I started this thread, I had no idea that it would become such an eclectic mix of witty & serious postings. I certainly did not think that this thread would be this long. But I am glad about the length of this thread because, above all, it shows that there are a number of people on Mudcat who warmly acknowledge and celebrate the special music making talents and skills that you, Bruce Murdoch have. Furthermore, this thread is a testimony to our high regard for you, Bruce, as a person and not just as a singer, songwriter, musician.
This thread has also provided opportunities for us "regular posters to this thread" to learn more about each other. I'm grateful for that and will cherish the friendships I made and strengthened as a result of this thread.

While I agree with Rumanci's post on 13 Sep 08 - 06:08 AM, I respect that Bruce has been patient with us for these months and now wants us to move on to other witty and other serious matters of the heart, and mind, and spirit.   

If the thread closes on Monday, I'm fine with that.

If it does not, than that's okay with me too.

Even if this thread closes, we will still support Bruce's creative products, and we will still support other posters' creative products. And even if this thread does close, we will still be supportive of each other's being. And I think that is the real meaning of "Matters of the Heart".

Best wishes to all,

Azizi

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 09:12 AM

Hi Kids: Here's how I see it. I think the thread should stay open for a bit. Why? Well, sure it's about Bruce. But it also captures more than that. Here you have an opportunity to see an artist in the process of creating new work. It's a step in a new direction in that new media is being used to support that project. eg. YouTube and MySpace. There's a bunch of information here that is useful to a lot of people.

You may have been in the game yourself as a Folk Artist for a number of years, and you are thinking of trying new ways of getting your work to the people. Threads like this keep the music alive in my opinion. As long as there is an interest in that people are posting, seems right to me to keep it going. Or, maybe a cut-off date, say October 1/08...But, that's not my call, just putting my two cents in...

bob

p.s. Going for a romantic evening with my Senorita. Yikki Yikki Yay...

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 09:14 AM

dear Peace

I hope you are well and please accept my apologies for any offence I may have caused you. Although I can well see where that came from it was not in any way my intention and if you are able still to read the post - as I am not - I hope that you will find nothing personal against you or your music. Indeed I wish you every success both with your career and with your cd - it's a hard world and we all do what we can

I guess if anything this tells me not to fire off posts from the hip late at night but to sleep on it and see if it still looks a good idea in the morning

with regard to dual identity this is not a subterfuge - simply that I write under the pseudonym Rafflesbear when speaking for myself and Norcsalordie when I am writing on behalf of the band - a name that the members of the band can use as well to speak for themselves. I hope that everyone will agree that this is a clear and honest distinction. You will of course know that I wrote the offending post under my own alias and it has absolutely nothing to do with the band

I hope you will accept this apology and you must be pleased to have such a loyal and active following

sincerely
Rafflesbear

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: KenM
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 04:43 PM

I have no idea what this dispute was about and I don't care to know. It's none of my business and I'm just happy to see it resolved in an amicable fashion. However, the exchange between Bruce and Raffelsbear highlights something that all who post here, either on the public threads or in PMs, need to remember. Electronic communication is a marvelous development. It's cheap, it's convenient, it's globe-spanning (this thread, for example allows people in at least three countries to communicate about a variety of topics). However, it's also a horribly flawed form of communication and we all need to be cautious in using it. Lacking the ability to hear voice tone and see body language, we are left solely with words on a screen.

An oft-cited and frequently misquoted series of studies by Albert Mehrabian comes to mind. Mehrabian set out to study how people decide whether they like one another. I won't go into the details of how he contrived his experiments but he concluded that total liking was based 7% on verbal liking, 38% on vocal liking and 55% on facial liking. This was subsequently inappropriately generalized to mean that in ALL communications:

7% happens in spoken words
38% happens through voice tone
55% happens via body language.

That, of course, is just plain silly and inaccurate. This message conveys more than 7% (or, at least, I hope it does!), and last Spring, in Nanking, China, I can tell you unequivocally that I did NOT understand 93% of what was spoken to me.

While those exact numbers may be challenged, we should not lose site of the important points raised by Mehrabian:
- it's not just words, a lot of communication comes through non-verbal communication; and,
- without seeing and hearing non-verbals, it is easier to misunderstand the words.

So, to repeat what I said earlier, we must be cautious in using words-only communications like e-mail and other electronic communications like this one.

Mr. Raffelsbear offers the best solution in the second paragraph of his note of apology. Our best friend is the "Save" button and our own worst enemy is frequently the "Send" one.

On another subject entirely, Bob R., enjoy your evening with your Senorita tonight!!

Cheers,

Ken

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Peace
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 06:13 PM

Rafflesbear, thank you. You are most gracious. It's done now.

I listened to the 'kids' and they are really good, no kidding. I love that music. They have good voice and lots of enthusiasm. I like their song selections--the ones I've heard. So, it's no wonder to me that you are a proud dad. You should be. They should have a Mudcat thread of their own, ya know. The problem with a post that addresses their activities is that there is no convenient way to find it. (Most topical things have a short shelf life.) Anyway, for what it's worth, please pass on my congratulations to the boys. I would love to hear them live. I expect they excel on stage.

Keep well, R.

Bruce

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Peace
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 06:36 PM

"p.s. Going for a romantic evening with my Senorita. Yikki Yikki Yay..."

Roberto, espero que ustedes dos tienen una hermosa noche. Que el joven sepa que estoy trabajando en mi español para el próximo verano.

El Bruco

Have a great time. No use tellin' you to behave.


Play this for her, Bob. With my love to you both.

Bruce

PS The short translation for that song is "I think you're pretty special."

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Beer
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 09:08 PM

Bruce,
That clip for Bob was great. Don't have a clue what was said but that is the beauty of music the universal language. It can raise the hair and send chills down your spine even if you don't know what is being said.
Adrien

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Peace
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 09:16 PM

"Er Es Tu" was a hit back in the 1970s, in Spanish, in Canada. Don't know how it fared in the rest of the world. Done by a group called Mochedades. I spent three days looking for someone to translate it for me back then. Was somewhere near 1976 or so.

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 10:56 PM

"Er Es Tu" was a hit back in the 1970s, in Spanish, in Canada. Don't know how it fared in the rest of the world. Done by a group called Mochedades."

AHEM!

"Eres Tu" . . . Mocedades.

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: GUEST,Peace
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 10:59 PM

The post above was me. Sorry.

"Touch The Wind (Eres Tú)
Mocedades
Juan Carlos Calderón -- Mike Hawker


I woke up this morning and my mind fell away
and looking back sadly from tomorrow
as I heard an echo from the past softly say
come back, come back, won't you stay?
I wanted to reach you, let you know I still care
and lost in the silence of my sorrow
I put a promise in the wind, on the air, to fly away to you there

Touch the wind. Catch my love as it goes sailing
Touch the wind and I'll be close to you
I'll be easy to find
on the winds of the morning I'll come sailing
I'll be easy to find
and, baby, I'll be close to you

And only forever can I say I love you
and only forever have I lost you
but only a dreamer could wake up as I do and hope it's still yesterday

Touch the wind. Catch my love as it goes sailing
Touch the wind and I'll be close to you
I'll be easy to find
on the winds of the morning I'll come sailing
I'll be easy to find
and, baby, I'll be close to you

Touch the wind...

-----

Eres Tú (Spanish)
Words and music by Juan Carlos Calderón
Letra y música de Juan Carlos Calderón

Como una promesa, eres tú, eres tú.
Como una mañana de verano.
Como una sonrisa, eres tú, eres tú.
Así, así, eres tú.


Toda mi esperanza, eres tú, eres tú.
Como lluvia fresca en mis manos
como fuerte brisa, eres tú, eres tú.
Así, así, eres tú.

Eres tú como el agua de mi fuente (algo así eres tú)
Eres tú el fuego de mi hogar
Eres tú como el fuego de mi hoguera
Eres tú el trigo de mi pan.

Como mi poema, eres tú, eres tú.
Como una guitarra en la noche,
todo mi horizonte eres tú, eres tú.
Así, así, eres tú.

Eres tú como el agua de mi fuente (algo así eres tú)
Eres tú el fuego de mi hogar
Eres tú como el fuego de mi hoguera
Eres tú el trigo de mi pan.

Eres tú...

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Eres tú (You are)
This is a direct translation of the Spanish lyrics for the benefit of those who do not understand Spanish but would like to have an idea about the meaning of the song. This direct translation has no correlation to the lyrics of Touch The Wind, which was recorded by Mocedades as an English version of Eres Tú.

Ésta es una traducción directamente al inglés de la letra de Eres Tú para quienes no saben el español pero desean entender lo que quiere decir la letra. Esta traducción directa no tiene nada que ver con la letra de Touch The Wind grabada por Mocedades como una versión en inglés de Eres Tú.

Like a promise, you are, you are
Like a summer morning
Like a smile, you are, you are
Like that, like that, you are
All my hope, you are, you are
Like fresh rain in my hands
Like a strong breeze, you are, you are; like that, like that, you are

You are like the water of my fountain (something like that, you are)
You are the fire of my fireplace
You are like the fire of my bonfire
You are the wheat of my bread

Like my poem, you are, you are
Like a guitar in the night
My whole horizon you are, you are; like that, like that, you are

You are like the water of my fountain (something like that, you are)
You are the fire of my fireplace
You are like the fire of my bonfire
You are the wheat of my bread

You are... "

fromhere.

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: bobad
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 11:07 PM

Ah, those Spaniards have a way with words, don't they?

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Beer
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 11:11 PM

Yep.

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Azizi
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 11:11 PM

It's interesting how lines from songs that sound so beautiful & lyrical in one language can sound so unlyrical {non-lyrical?} when those they are translated into English.

For example:

You are like the water of my fountain
You are the fire of my fireplace
You are like the fire of my bonfire
You are the wheat of my bread

-snip-

I think that if you used those lines in an English song, you'd be laughed off stage.or a more polite audience would be saying to themselves "What??!!"

I understand that the singer is saying that his love is the essence of those essential things.

But still...

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: bobad
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 11:23 PM

"I think that if you used those lines in an English song, you'd be laughed off stage.or a more polite audience would be saying to themselves "What??!!"

You have to roll those r's and make with the soulful eyes that speak of prolonged abstinence to make it work.

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: GUEST,Peace
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 11:47 PM

The lip syncing is a bit out, but as I remember it, this is the original that hit the charts. My, don't folks look younger.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s3BIX0duKs&feature=related

Except that little tag on the end. Never heard that before.





OK, it's almost midnight in Montreal and where are they? Huh? I ask you, where are they!

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Beer
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 11:49 PM

Lazy bastards

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Peace
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 11:58 PM

Senorita, espero que usted tuviera una gran tarde con Roberto. Espero que usted sepa con quién usted sale. Él ganó unas libras, y ahora él usa a un caballo fuerte, pero es este hombre.

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Beer
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 12:01 AM

My hero as a child. Wouldn't miss a episode.

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Peace
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 12:03 AM

Well, I think you have his e-mail address. Write to him!

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Azizi
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 12:13 AM

Time out.

I have something that I've debated with myself whether I should write, and I finally decided that yes, I should.

I tried to write this as a personal message. However, I couldn't do so since the person I'm writing to isn't a member of this forum, and therefore can not receive pms. And besides, since this pertains to something written on this thread, I believe that my comment needs to be part of the record of this thread. I hope that this forum's moderators do not delete this post.

Guest, rafflesbear,

I did not see what you wrote this morning in your comment that was quickly deleted. A female Mudcatter wrote me and told me that your comment wasn't racial. I wrote her and said that I was glad about this and I didn't want to know what you had written.

I still don't want to know. But-in spite of what I wrote earlier in this thread about not letting what you said poison my day, what you wrote has bothered me all day. It also doesn't sit well with me that you apologized in this public forum to Bruce but made no mention of me at all.

I feel the need to write this because when this thread is read, I don't want people to think that they can say something hurtful about two people, and apologize to one of those people for that portion of their comments, but disregard the other person.

I what to make it clear that I have absolutely no problem with the fact that Bruce accepted your apology to him.

rafflesbear, I know that it's your choice whether you chose to apologize to me or not. But it is my choice to tell you that I will not be ignored. I want you to know am human and not a superheroine. I have feelings like anyone else. And right now, my feelings are hurt-less because of what you said than because you did not recognize my need for an apology.

I thought that I wouldn't post any other comments to this thread, Then I thought that I would just post lighthearted comments to this thread and act like what happened didn't bother me. But it did bother me. And I'm trying to be for real.

It occurs to me that what I wrote may not really be off topic, since it is a matter of the heart. And it also occurs to me that one way of getting verbal poison out of one's system is to talk it out.

I've done so, and I can now move on now.

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: GUEST,Peace
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 12:25 AM

Well said, Azizi. IMO, R will give you one.

As for 'off topic':

Show me a thread with soul so dead
That never to itself hath said
Just what am I about?


Do you like Kipling?

Don't know, I've never Kippled.

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: GUEST,Peace
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 12:43 AM

So, it's after midnight. Does he write, does he call?

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Azizi
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 08:43 AM

Bruce, I believe that your last two posts to this thread were well meaning attempts of humor {hunour}. And I also believe that your purpose in posting them was to try to make me feel better.

I recognise that everyone's life experiences off-line and on-line influence how they take things in and interprete them and feel about things, and people, and how they interact with other people.

I know that I'm too serious a person for humor to work regarding this particular experience (not the post whose message I don't know and don't care to know but the apology that I wasn't included in}. And I am recognize that I may be taking all of this out of proportion given my previous experiences.

To paraphrase the words from Grandmaster Flash's hip-hop song "The Message":

..."I'm close to the edge
Im trying not to loose my head
Its like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder
How I keep from going under".

-snip-

The reason I am writing this on this public thread is that I don't want anyone to think that I misinterpreted your latest two posts on this thread. To repeat, I believe that they are well meaning attempts at humor. I'm just not in a humorous mood-which I know is something that I have to deal with myself.

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 08:48 AM

Peace: Tomé cuadros de ella. Comida hermosa al aire libre bajo la luna. Teníamos nuestro primer beso...bob

Thanks for the song...BR

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Severn
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 10:15 AM

Far better to be jaw-dropping than lip-synching, anyway.

Only those who run a loose ship allow synching lips.

But however the original of that old superstition went, I'm told it alegendly saved the Ubangis from being shipped over as slaves. Don't know whether there's any truth to that or not......

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: maeve
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 11:43 AM

Azizi- I hope you find a satisfactory resolution soon. It's better to say what you need, as you have, than to let it fester.

Bruce- Thank you for posting "Eres Tú ". I used to love singing it, and I had forgotten many of the words. Now I can learn it again and awaken the Spanish corner of my brain.

Bob- Buena suerte!

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 02:00 PM

dear Azizi

please do not let your imagination run away with you - I do not believe that anything I wrote was malicious and I would not wish you to be unnerved by a stranger on the internet

I really do not wish to refer to any part of the post in this thread or in this forum as I think more than enough upset has been caused

If you wish to contact me through MySpace I would be pleased to converse with you privately - and if I could just quote you my MySpace slogan which has been there since I joined it a couple of years ago

"Trying to get through life without upsetting too many people - it's not working."

Rafflesbear

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Azizi
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 03:31 PM

Rafflesbear,

A female Mudcatter sent me the text of your post. I consider it to be malicious, and I agree with the Mudcat moderator who deleted it that it should have been deleted.

I find it interesting that your response to me was different than your response to Bruce, who presumably is also an Internet stranger to you.

Beyond this post, I chose not to talk or write or think or emote anymore about you or your deleted post or your choice not to include me in your apology to Bruce.

Thank you, Maeve for your 14 Sep 08 - 11:43 AM comment.

That said, I'm moving right along, focusing on other matters of the heart, mind, body, and soul.

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: Azizi
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 03:36 PM

One last comment, it was not Maeve who sent me the text of that deleted post.

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 03:48 PM

500th POST!!!....Did I win anything?

Got a BOFFO name for Bruce's next CD!!!

GET THIS!!!    "Heart of the Matter"....

HUH...IS DAT KILLA, NO FILLA OR WHAT!!!?

Oh yeah?! Well, Yor SEESTOR!!! O.K.?
bob

Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch CD-Matters of the Heart
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 08:19 PM

Bruce's webmaster,
How does one get added as a friend on Bruce's MySpace? Can anyone join, or is he reserving that for certain people?

Thanks,
rags