What does Sarah Palin remind you of?

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Big Mick
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 01:30 PM

A naughty librarian........***chuckle*** "Come here you bad boy....***.

I'm wrong for that one.

Her attitude reminds me of Cheney, quite frankly. And when I watch her speak, it is clear she is buying into her own messianic publicity. Glassy eyes, starry, faraway look. Folks that do this enjoy their time, do a lot of damage, and invariably go down in flames (think Joe McCarthy). My prediction from the days after her nomination stands. At some point folks in the campaign, and the public in general, will be wondering what they were thinking.

Mick

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Alice
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 01:33 PM

Sarah Palin reminds me of a girl I went to class with in college who said the liberals just want to help lazy people get hand outs from the taxpayers.

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 01:36 PM

She must be intelligent - did she not attend six colleges???

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 01:40 PM

I have to admit, Mick, she reminds me of the naughty librarian too... ;-D

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 01:45 PM

This thread reminds me of grade 8 ... you know, when the class get's together and wastes time and energy sniding about the one classmate they really don't like.

Oh well.

Frankly ... I still think Palin reminds me of a typical American.

biLL

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Big Mick
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 01:48 PM

And what, pray tell, biLL, is a "typical American"? Help me understand what homogenized traits you are referring to? Your simplistic comment kind of reminds me of the criticism that Irish Americans get when they refer to the English or Brits. Help me out her, buddy.

Mick

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 01:50 PM

The way she looks, talks, her sense of humour .... hell, even her politics.

That's how she reminds me of an American.

Pretty straightforward Mick ... just like all the other comments made about her here in this thread.

biLL

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,crazy little woman
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 01:51 PM

It may not be true that the kid is named for the family airplane. My husband's nephew's girlfriend's daughter is named Piper. Maybe it's a holdover from the actress Piper Laurie.

I wish that people would take the names of those nobler than most actors for their children. How does it sound when we say, 'She's been divorced three times, in rehab twice, doesn't have custody of her kids and her career is long over, but we named you after her.'

(Not that I'm referring to Piper Laurie in particular. She may have none of the above problems.)

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: John Hardly
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 01:53 PM

Mr. Smith.

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: John Hardly
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 01:53 PM

and Tina Fay

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,Neil D
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 01:53 PM

Sarah Palin reminds me that the American political landscape of the 21st century can be quite depressing. She represents the extreme right wing of her party and for the first time in this campaign year it looks like the Republicans might actually pull this off. After eight years of cronyism, corruption and incompetence, of lying to the American people into an illegal war, and all the Republicans had to do to get back on top was MOVE TO THE RIGHT. I didn't even think that was possible. So since majority rules that means that if the Republicans win in November, the majority of Americans are homophobic, narrow-minded, non-scientific hate mongers who believe God is on our side no matter what. And that, my friends, is depressing.

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 02:02 PM

"So since majority rules that means that if the Republicans win in November, the majority of Americans are homophobic, narrow-minded, non-scientific hate mongers who believe God is on our side no matter what."

Well ... Ron's statment above pretty well defines why I think Palin reminds me of an American.

Then again ... as I stated above ... putting aside politiks, religion I never met an American I didn't like.

BiLL

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: kendall
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 02:03 PM

Well, I have to admit that "Caribou Barbie" is prettier than Joe Biden

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Ythanside
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 02:11 PM

A female version of Margaret Thatcher.

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 02:21 PM

"A female version of Margaret Thatcher. "

..... YIKES !!


biLL

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Ythanside
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 02:49 PM

Thatcher was a stonehearted caricature of a human being with all the feminine charm of an obelisk. Sarah Palin seems reasonably normal by comparison.

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Amos
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 02:53 PM

She reminds me of a warthog after cosmetic surgery. Better looking, but still a warthog down deep.


A

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Ythanside
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 02:59 PM

Come on, Amos, be fair. The girl's hairdresser tells her she doesn't look a day over sixteen, or is he talking about her hairstyle?

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 03:04 PM

Yeah, there are some real lookers that hang around on Mudcat too! Ever spend any time checking out the photos?   If you want to talk about needing a hairdresser or being stuck in the '70's, check out the photo section! After reading some of the comments in this thread, I guess a few of you have a shortage of mirrors!

Trust me, I'm not one to talk either!!   I have a face made for radio.

:)

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Ythanside
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 03:15 PM

Mirrors? You may be psychic, Ron. I had to remove a wall mirror today at the behest of my wife, as she said it made her look overweight (notice I didn't use the word 'fat'?) Funny thing, but the missus had a similar hairdo to Sarah Palin's only about, oh, let me see, must have been forty-five years ago.

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,Layla
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 03:22 PM

Sarah is a total lady and I wish the team well in the elections. I am sick of people making remarks about her because she is decent and God fearing. I echo the remarks of many a wise member on the cat, America will not vote a coloured man into the White House, no offence, but fact is fact.

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Big Mick
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 03:24 PM

What colour is he, Layla?

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 03:25 PM

Frankly ... I still think Palin reminds me of a typical American.

Not quite. She reminds me of a made-up American. The kind of American created to populate movie screens and paperback novels. She's an embodiment of he mythical strongly independent American frontiersperson, a myth in which most of us have received a thorough indoctrination. She's a modern version of Calamity Jane. As long as people believe the frontier myth, they'll believe in Palin. But the fact is that the frontier myth is not only irrelevant, but counterproductive to the welfare of both our society and the planet. She may be just what Alaska needs, but she's certainly not what most of the rest of us need.

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 03:30 PM

Calamity Jane !?!?!

American frontiersperson ?!?!?!

Geeesh.

She reminds me of the woman behind the cash counter at the Target store down in Danvers Mass.

biLL

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 03:35 PM

She looks a bit like Jerry Falwell with tits.


Here ya go, Layla"


"You'll be riding along in an automobile. You'll be the driver perhaps. You're a Christian. There'll be several people in the automobile with you, maybe someone who is not a Christian. When the trumpet sounds you and the other born-again believers in that automobile will be instantly caught away -- you will disappear, leaving behind only your clothes and physical things that cannot inherit eternal life. That unsaved person or persons in the automobile will suddenly be startled to find the car suddenly somewhere crashes.... Other cars on the highway driven by believers will suddenly be out of control and stark pandemonium will occur on ... every highway in the world where Christians are caught away from the drivers wheel.

-- Rev Jerry Falwell, in his pamphlet, "Nuclear War and the Second Coming of Christ," quoted from Ronnie Dugger,"Does Reagan Expect a Nuclear Armageddon?" in Washington Post Outlook (April 8, 1984)"

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Ed T
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 03:39 PM

McCains main diversion, aka Chatty Kathy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSPXpc5N6Kg

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 03:40 PM

"She's an embodiment of the mythical strongly independent American frontiersperson, a myth in which most of us have received a thorough indoctrination. She's a modern version of Calamity Jane. As long as people believe the frontier myth, they'll believe in Palin. But the fact is that the frontier myth is not only irrelevant, but counterproductive to the welfare of both our society and the planet."

Exactly my point. Both Sarah Palin and John McCain embody the old popular American myths of rugged frontier heroism. They fit those myths to a "T". Those are the kind of myths that get people elected in the USA by a public brought up on dumb TV shows and Hollywood adventure movies.

I've never believed in that myth, although I do find it somewhat enjoyable and entertaining in certain types of movies. I don't buy it outside of that, and it has nothing to do with anything someone should be elected on the basis of.

But am I the typical American voter???? Hell, no!

The Republicans know what they're doing, in my opinion. I do hope, though, that they turn out to be wrong in their expectations.

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: mmm1a
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 03:44 PM

It just came to me

       Doris Umbridge from the 5th Harry Potter book. Smiling and simpering, acting like She has your best interest in mind, but really is a slimy snake in the grass. I tell ya, if McCain does win the election I hope He lives a very very long life, otherwise we are screwed . No question about it.
                mmm1a

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: polaitaly
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 03:47 PM

What Sarah Palin remind me of.
Do you remember the movie "Serial Mom" ?

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: kendall
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 03:48 PM

Layla, who is dumping on her for being decent and God fearing?

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 03:49 PM

I will say this - her voice reminds me of the late Gilda Radner on Saturday Night Live. When she was introduced and in turn was introducing her family, just think of how she said "my husband Toddd".

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: C. Ham
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 03:52 PM

Here's an interesting blog from the editor of a NY Jewish newspaper comparing Sarah Palin to the women of Chabad Lubavitch, the Hasidic sect that tries to get secular Jews to become religious.

Jonathan Mark's Blog on Sarah Palin

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,Don Firth (computer still in the shop)
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 03:57 PM

The love-child of a ménage a trois between Dick Cheney (with shotgun in hand), Anita Bryant, and Tammy Faye Bakker, with some Ann Coulter genes spliced in.

C'mon, Amos, let's not go around denegrating warthogs. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 04:08 PM

What does Sarah Palin remind you of?


A mean spritied version of Bobby's mother from the TV cartoon series "Bobby's World"
Uncle Ted is McCain

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: akenaton
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 04:41 PM

I think she WILL remind everyone here of the reason they lost the 2008 election.

At present she reminds me of someone who believes in herself and every word she says.

I wish I could look at Obama or Clinton and say that.
Hawk as ever, is correct. people want conviction from their politicians, most don't really understand or care about the issues.

The spokespeople of the watered down "Democrat left" have no conviction and it can be seen by even those with no interest in politics(80% of the American electorate?)
Conviction, for the great unwashed, is the ultimate litmus test...Ake

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: CarolC
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 04:49 PM

Mr. Smith - in the alternate universe in which he didn't really stand up to the establishment but only lied and said he did, all the while doing the establishment's dirty work for them and getting paid for it.

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 05:12 PM

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,Layla - PM
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 03:22 PM

Sarah is a total lady and I wish the team well in the elections. I am sick of people making remarks about her because she is decent and God fearing. I echo the remarks of many a wise member on the cat, America will not vote a coloured man into the White House, no offence, but fact is fact.

Whoa--two scarey ladies, Palin and Layla! Layla, stay a guest. This kind of attitude is corrosive and unwelcome.

SRS

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Ed T
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 06:00 PM

Initially, a modern promoter of the "religious crusades".

But, Bush really was the original character in this real theater/play.

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Amos
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 06:37 PM

Akneton:

You are mistaken in the extreme. Let me point out some of the convictions that inform the left side of our political spectrum.

We have a conviction that issues are more important than PR pushbuttons and media-driven cartoons of personality.

We have a conviction that the country is deeply in need of fundamnetal chasngte in operating policies in order to recover from the last eight or more years of white-collar crime.

We have a conviction that international relations do not have to be conducted with bullets and that violence is a shabby last resort and aconfession of failure on the part of the initiator thereof.

We have a conviction that the core synthesis that makes the nation propserous and great has been broken by abuse and needs restoring.

All of these, and many more, have been cited and stated and indicated and articulated by leaders on what you so glibly call the watered down left.

I suggest you pull your head out of whatever dark recess has been protecting it from reality and take a fresh look at what is going on.


A

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: heric
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 06:47 PM

That's you and me and so many little people, Amos. Is it Obama and all the other Democratic "spokespeople?" Are we going to get Change change CHANGE cHanGE Change! C-h-a-n-g-e !!


Maybe, I guess.

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: pdq
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 07:09 PM

Obama's definition of change: three quarters for a dollar bill

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 07:35 PM

What you guys are not getting is that Palin is not being portrayed as a frontier woman, or calamity jane or whatever ... what she reminds me of is yes, as I mentioned ... the woman behind the checkout at the Target store ... the working mom, the single working mom, the mom who hasn't the perfect family with the pain in the ass teenage daughter, the working mom with the special needs kid, the working mom with the son serving over in Bagdhad, the wife of the working man, the woman who can take on the washington establishment. There is a hell of a lot of these people in the U.S.A. The ones who have been ignored by the elite governing faction ... the lawyers, the corporate chiefs.

Whether she is exactly this person is irrelevant ... but that is what she is coming across as to the voters, something the voters in the U.S. have never seen before .. right or wrong I'm not going to even try to argue that point ... but it is why she is currently steam rolling through Virginia today ... 20,000k people out to see her. I will not be surprised to see this continue right through to voting day ... I may be wrong, but right now it looks like it has grabbed this whole carny election process by surprise. You may all call her what you will, but she is a reality that some can't seem to grasp.

"Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?"


biLL

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: CarolC
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 07:48 PM

Single working mom?

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: kendall
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 07:52 PM

pdq please explain that remark.
He wants to give the middle class a tax break and he wants to stop the Bush break for the filthy rich. This right wing crap about him wanting to raise "YOUR" taxes is just that...crap.He will raise them if you make 4 million a year.

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: katlaughing
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 07:56 PM

She will not fare any better in the debates or on her own campaigning than a working mom from Wal Mart would do biLL. I wouldn't want either one in the White House.

I was originally going to say she reminds me of a Stepford Wife, but she's not deadpan enough.

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 08:01 PM

the woman behind the checkout at the Target store ... the working mom, the single working mom, the mom who hasn't the perfect family with the pain in the ass teenage daughter, the working mom with the special needs kid,

number 6, you don't get it. I don't want to elect the woman who works at the check out at Target as president of the U.S.. I don't want any of those people, I want someone who has demonstrated, through intelligence (combine scholarship and political savvy and an ability to do upper level critical thinking) and talent to be above the normal Joe or Jane on the street. I don't think Palin has that. She may be ambitious, but I don't see signs that she's anything other than the mega millions lottery winner in the VP slot on the ticket. Total fluke.

SRS

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 08:04 PM

What you describe there, number 6, "the woman behind the checkout at the Target store ... the working mom, the single working mom, the mom who hasn't the perfect family with the pain in the ass teenage daughter, the working mom with the special needs kid, the working mom with the son serving over in Bagdhad, the wife of the working man, the woman who can take on the washington establishment"

That IS the frontier woman, translated into present day societal terms. The frontier ideal celebrated in all those old westerns is a hard-working woman of the common people, someone with a family to take care of and someone who has faced the trials and tribulations of ordinary life on the homestead.

So she is indeed evoking those same old images. She's not "Calamity Jane" precisely (that's too specific and idiosyncratic a character)....no, she's the rancher's faithful wife on the old homestead, able to grab a long rifle off the wall and fight off a marauding grizzly bear that's after the livestock, yet still looking good despite all that hard work, toil, and tears...and not takin' no guff from the cattle barons and other rich folks up on the hill, no sir! Hell, she's a Tom Sawyer dream! (Michelle Obama would be too...only problem is...she's Black and her husband is half-black and he talks like an intellectual....hmmm....well, that won't quite do it for Middle America.)

Sarah Palin is the old Middle American frontier myth in full-blown grandeur, and she's white, of course. That goes without saying, right? And she's a "hotty" (so they say).

What more could they possibly want to draw an enthusiastic crowd out from conservative Middle America?

It remains to be seen whether the people on the right will be impressed by any factual data from her past record that would cast doubts on her suitability for the high office she is running for.

I highly doubt it. I think they will easily be able to overlook all the kind of documented stuff that Amos is so articulatly and gleefully documenting here, because people are NEVER interested in inconvenient facts that hurt their case. They are only interested in facts that serve to bolster their own chosen argument.

I've noticed that for years and years on this forum. It's the defining characteristic of the partisan mentality and the insecure mind, which only shows interest in facts if those facts support its usual convictions and its usual desired purposes and ends.

If not, the facts are either ignored or they are dismissed as "irrelevant" or "unimportant" or "misleading" or something like that.

This election, as usual, is not about issues. It's a personal popularity contest. It's a personality drama. Prepare for a couple more months of the usual idiocy. I expect it will get even worse than it has already gotten.

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: CarolC
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 08:10 PM

What she is, is highly marketable. The question is, will the voters be taken in yet once again by someone who is marketable but does not have the average voters' best interests at heart. And let's be real about that. She is working for the oil companies and big business generally. With McCain/Palin, we get more of the same imperialistic warmongering at the taxpayers' expense as we've had for the last eight years, and more forcing the taxpayers to have to subsidize big business (while they rake in historic profits) while our standard of living continues to decline.

Whether or not they win this election will depend on whether or not Obama can keep the voters focused on these things, while deflecting the lies being told by McCain/Palin.

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Emma B
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 08:14 PM

'I expect it will get even worse than it has already gotten.'

Is this possible?

Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 08:15 PM

As LH has been saying Carol ... the average voters see the persona, and vote for the persona ... not the issues.


biLL