BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 15 Apr 09 - 07:05 PM

Well, the other rationale--the prosecution blew the case intentionally so there would be good grounds for appeal--is somebody else's theory. I didn't like it, but didn't want it go get left out.

                      It's hard to imagine that the prosecution did what they did for no reason. That would be the hardest theory to believe of all.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: GUEST, Ebbie
Date: 15 Apr 09 - 06:24 PM

Good god, Rig. You've got theories to fit either - and both -
side(s) of the aisle. Bit cynical, wouldn't you say?

'Twould be seemly if you came up with a reasonable rationale.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 15 Apr 09 - 12:57 PM

Actually, all I have are questions. If we were looking for conspiracies, one could be that somebody like George Soros, who participated so completely in getting Obama elected, wanted to be sure he had a friendly Congress, so he bought the prosecution in the Stevens case to ensure the outcome of the election. Of course, Soros wasn't the only well heeled Democratic Obama backer, so...

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: GUEST, Ebbie
Date: 15 Apr 09 - 12:37 PM

I don't know. Share your theories.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 14 Apr 09 - 07:25 PM

Why else would Bush attorneys botch the prosecution so badly that Stevens was convicted when they certainly would have known their misdeeds would come to light in short order.

               Why did the Bush handlers want to get rid of Stevens?

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: GUEST, Eb
Date: 14 Apr 09 - 06:15 PM

sheesh

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 14 Apr 09 - 01:14 PM

Yes, but... In any event, he seems to have been placed there by the dark forces of evil, though he himself might not have been aware of it.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: GUEST, Ebbie
Date: 14 Apr 09 - 12:22 PM

Art's take on things is a pithy pun. There is a difference, you konw.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 14 Apr 09 - 12:04 PM

Okay, okay, I was just following up on the previous poster. Sheees!

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: GUEST, Ebbie
Date: 14 Apr 09 - 10:27 AM

Rig, I will never understand you. Why are you slinging mud at Senator Begich? You know nothing about him. I have never met him but he has a good reputation in Alaska, and reputations count in a place as small as Alaska, population-wise.

So just knock it off. It ain't cute.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 13 Apr 09 - 09:44 PM

Good description of the senator - Bag Itch, I like it!

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Art Thieme
Date: 13 Apr 09 - 05:37 PM

If you got a Bagich, scratch it!

Art

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 13 Apr 09 - 02:20 AM

Rig, I tend to agree with you, that politicians are pretty much all buffoons! I think the better attempt to hide that fact, while running, the more 'electable' they are....oh, with one exception...Nancy Pelosi...she's an out front, flaming buffoon, and the morons up near San Francisco, keep electing her...It defies gravity!

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 12 Apr 09 - 07:27 AM

I suppose the point is, the word "buffoon" relates well to the concept of the modern day American politician. Following that rationale, of course, if Alaska ended up without any buffoons at all, there wouldn't be anyone out there--or up there--to run for public office.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: GUEST, Ebbie
Date: 11 Apr 09 - 11:27 PM

That may be my fault, heric. I tend to veer and lurch in conversation.

Although it's not my doing that 'buffoon' was used in connection with Alaska politics. (I do like 'bouffant buffoon' though!) Buffoon has a connotation to me that is applicable only in fairly specific cases and I don't think that it qualifies in Alaska.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 11 Apr 09 - 11:06 PM

This is an uncharacteristically difficult thread to follow.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Apr 09 - 10:37 PM

That Guest was me. My cookie crumbled.

Don Young, the Republican Representative, supports the Democratic view that Senator Mark Begich should not resign his new seat because of 'Uncle Ted's' misfortune. I don't know how Young feels about Begich further than that.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 11 Apr 09 - 03:00 PM

Yes, but Ebbie seemed to indicate that the Republican Congressman was supporting the Democratic Senator. I think that was the issue.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: GUEST,Eb
Date: 11 Apr 09 - 11:16 AM

They are both Republicans, of course; evidently Palin wants to reassure Murkowski that she's not going to go after Murkowski's Senate seat. (Not that that would worry Murkowski much.)

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 10 Apr 09 - 01:26 PM

There was a headline on Yahoo yesterday that Palin was preparing to raise money for Murkowski, so it looks like the battle of the sexes--or genders if you'd rather. Traditional party lines have been blured.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Apr 09 - 10:54 AM

I don't understand, Rig. In what way is Palin "helping" Murkowski? At this point, Palin is in such deep doo doo in her own state she is in no shape to help anyone else.

And the male Republican representative in the House has come out to help the "male Democrat in the Senate".

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 10 Apr 09 - 10:42 AM

It looks like Palin is reving up to help Lisa Merkowski(sp?), so the will put the Republican women against the male Democrat in the Senate.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 09 Apr 09 - 10:26 AM

102 Good!..You must have had an epiphany!

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Apr 09 - 01:21 AM

Nope. 101

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 08 Apr 09 - 10:08 PM

100....want to argue now??

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Apr 09 - 10:04 PM

Good gracious, why not! (If you more frequently made sense I imagine I would do less of it.)

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 08 Apr 09 - 08:19 PM

Not only that,..Ebbie you are right!..(Takes an Alaskan, they have a little better insight into that).
She'll still argue with me though...

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Apr 09 - 08:02 PM

Not only that - a sovereign state most commonly is a nation.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Alice
Date: 08 Apr 09 - 07:57 PM

definition of sovereign state
Sovereign state, a state which administers its own
government, and is not dependent upon, or subject to,
another power.

Our states are all united under a federal government, so even though each state has a government, they are not technically sovereign governments.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 08 Apr 09 - 07:01 PM

If Alaska lost all of its buffoons, who would serve in the Senate?

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: artbrooks
Date: 08 Apr 09 - 05:28 PM

Would that be the bouffant buffoon?

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Barry Finn
Date: 08 Apr 09 - 05:25 PM

All & all, it appears Alaska will not soon lose it's buffoon or whatever you might want to call her

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Greg F.
Date: 08 Apr 09 - 08:52 AM

...according to 'states rights' each state is a sovereign state.

According to John C. Calhoun, perhaps, but this business was settled by the Civil War.

Of course, modern "Lost Cause" proponents continue to refuse to acknoledge the fact.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 08 Apr 09 - 01:04 AM

Actually, according to 'states rights' each state is(was) a sovereign state. Originally, (check your history, circa. the time of the founding fathers, Bill of Rights, and the Constitution), we are(were) supposed to be united sovereign, states, with a central (federal government) with both limitations, as to its powers, and duties to perform, such as protecting the borders, tariffs, etc etc. If you want to look it up, its there, and the reason a lot of people are up tight, at the federal government getting too big, and invasive, of the states rights. (This is why certain laws, vary from state to state...in case you weren't sure of that. Just, as of recent, 23 states, re-declared it..( I think as a reminder to the federal government, that they in fact are not in favor of some of the feds policies, regarding this issue!)

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 07 Apr 09 - 07:46 PM

"What was a Senator doing in bed with a bigtime oil man/lobbyist in the first place?"


                         Maybe he sold petroleum jelly!

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Alice
Date: 07 Apr 09 - 07:11 PM

Speaking of mistakes and buffoons....
today Palin referred to Alaska as a sovereign state.
what the heck? The states in the United States are not sovereign states.
ooops

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 Apr 09 - 06:34 PM

"And if they'd turned over the evidence to the defense, there's not much chance he ever would have been convicted in the first place. All they managed to do was to get Begich elected to the Senate."

Whoa, Nelly! Not so fast, Rig. That statement is not even close to being true.

Snippets, from HERE:

"But the dismissal will not declare Stevens innocent. Nor will it rewrite the facts of a case in which Stevens took thousands of dollars in favors and freebies from wealthy friends."

"Michael Sklaire, a former corruption prosecutor, said the decision to dismiss the case was more about punishing the prosecutors for withholding evidence than about exonerating Stevens. When the case against a drug dealer falls apart, Sklaire said, the charges disappear but the defendant can't really say he's innocent because he still got arrested with drugs."

"Those that came to mind, she (juror) said, were the $2,700 massage chair, a custom stained-glass window worth $3,200, and a $29,000 fish sculpture. None of those had anything to do with the home renovations or the disputed testimony."

"At trial, he (Stevens) said he didn't disclose the items he received because they were not gifts. The massage chair, for instance, remained in his house for seven years but Stevens said it was a loan. He said he assumed the stained-glass window was paid for, since his wife takes care of such things. The fish statue was a donation to his foundation, he said, and only remained on his front porch because that's where the donors shipped it."


One of the most disturbing, if not damning, facets to this case is the question: What was a Senator doing in bed with a bigtime oil man/lobbyist in the first place?

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 07 Apr 09 - 01:59 PM

And if they'd turned over the evidence to the defense, there's not much chance he ever would have been convicted in the first place. All they managed to do was to get Begich elected to the Senate.
                   It's now time to investigate who was behind getting Begich elected, and how much they had to pay the prosection.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Apr 09 - 09:49 AM

The current AG did not ask for the case to be dismissed because Ted was innocent of charges. He did it because the prosecution did not give evidence to the defense as required for any criminal case.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 06 Apr 09 - 08:09 PM

PDQ, It has been said that why do women have the 'lower half' as you suggested?...answer: So men will talk to them!
Just a joke!!..Take it easy!!! Its on me too!

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: pdq
Date: 06 Apr 09 - 08:06 PM

The lower half.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 06 Apr 09 - 07:53 PM

But which half?

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Ebbie
Date: 06 Apr 09 - 07:52 PM

lol, heric. Buddy Tabor, a Juneau singer/songwriter, wrote a hilarious story about having his wife run off and then seeing her picture on the cover of Weekly World News (or something like that), standing beside her Bigfoot lover; how embarrassed he was to show his face at the checkout counter.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: heric
Date: 06 Apr 09 - 07:38 PM

Actually I read in the supermarket that she did.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 06 Apr 09 - 07:21 PM

Yeah, but she didn't marry he husband's half sister.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Barry Finn
Date: 06 Apr 09 - 07:14 PM

MBut Mary, she is resposible for herself & her family's action, including her husband & children. She married one & spawned the others

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: SINSULL
Date: 06 Apr 09 - 03:32 PM

Gosh - I would hate to be judged by the actions of my sisters-in-law. I have some loonies who married into the family. Palin has her own problems. She is hardly responsible for her sister-in-law's crimes.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 06 Apr 09 - 03:09 PM

Time to throw some of their fucking asses in jail, impeach some, and try them for treason, and corruption charges!!! ...and perjury!....taking an oath, that they had absolutely NO INTENTION of keeping!

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 06 Apr 09 - 02:37 PM

Both of these sides are bad news. It's time for a third party.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 06 Apr 09 - 02:10 AM

So, there you have it, Boys and girls, ladies and gentlemen! Barry is correcto mundo!! It is NOT just in one party!!..Besides, corruption is the only thing going on in Washington, that IS Bi-partisan!! They buy out, and make 'contributions(read:bribes) to both sides....at the same time!!..You all know that!!!don't you??...I'm sure you do!...So, what agenda do they have going, that has been furthered, no matter who 'wins'????...Be interesting to see who figures it out. I thought it would be Little Hawk, a while ago...but he hasn't been on much, in these posts, lately.....come on 'catters, Let's get to the bottom of this....without bi-partisan bickering!!!!