BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: robomatic
Date: 02 Apr 09 - 10:55 AM

I think if one examines our Governor in light of her candidacy for Rep Veep and her current eye on future national participation in politics, the thread title is almost appropriate, even if Rig done up with it.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Apr 09 - 10:43 AM

Hmmmmm. That's an improvement.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 02 Apr 09 - 10:18 AM

Well, at least I didn't announce that Alasks "did" end up with a buffoon...

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Apr 09 - 10:14 AM

Frankly, my dear, you didn't think. :)

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 02 Apr 09 - 08:09 AM

"By the way, Riginslinger, I'd be interested in why you thought of 'buffoon' in this connection?"


             Well, I knew he was a Democrat, and I've seen what the Dems have been doing at the national level since the election, so I just thought, you know...

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Greg F.
Date: 02 Apr 09 - 08:02 AM

the Bush justice department would have been crucified if they HAD NOT prosecuted Stevens.

Now, there you go again, Douggie - trying to make chicken soup out of chicken shit.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Apr 09 - 01:19 AM

By the way, Riginslinger, I'd be interested in why you thought of 'buffoon' in this connection?

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Apr 09 - 01:18 AM

Palin defeated Republicans Fairbanks businessman John Binkley and Gov. Frank Murkowski to become the Republican nominee. Neither of them has been involved in a scandal, as such. Murkowski, however, had a 19% approval rating. We didn't like the man. Binkley had run for governor before and never drummed up much interest.

Democrats former Alaska governor Tony Knowles and Congressman Eric Croft ran against Palin in the gubernatorial race in 2006. Neither of them has ever been involved in a scandal.

This year Eric Croft is running for Anchorage mayor, the seat that Mark Begich vacated when he replaced Ted Stevens and which is being held by an Acting Mayor. I suspect that he will win it; Croft has made a pretty good name for himself.

Ted Stevens would be hard to mistake for Idaho governor Larry Craig; Stevens is 84 years old, for one thing. lol

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Genie
Date: 02 Apr 09 - 12:28 AM

I thought he had, Ebbie. Run for governor, that is. I coulda sworn during the 2008 election campaigns, when Begich was running for Senator, that the news reported that he had come close to beating Palin for Governor. Do I have him mixed up with another Alaska Democrat?

But the people I really was mixing up were Ted Stevens and Larry Craig.
Now I can't remember what it was that Stevens was convicted of.

I still wish the current Justice Dept. could undo the horrible wrongs that were done to Don Sigelman - but that was a state prosecution, so I'm not sure they can do much.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 11:06 PM

Genie, to the best of my recollection, Mark Begich has never run for Governor.

"Still, I thought all along that he should not have been prosecuted for trying to proposition another adult (for consensual, non-commercial sex), even if was clear that that was what he was trying to do. It was great fodder for the comics, and it kind of did make him look like a bit of a hypocrite, but as far as I know, that's not against the law."

Genie, who are you talking about? Not Mark Begich, surely.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Genie
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 06:22 PM

Didn't Mark Begich lose the Alaska Governor's race to Sarah Palin by only a very small margin, too?
He might possibly have defeated Stevens even without 'toilet gate.'

Still, I thought all along that he should not have been prosecuted for trying to proposition another adult (for consensual, non-commercial sex), even if was clear that that was what he was trying to do. It was great fodder for the comics, and it kind of did make him look like a bit of a hypocrite, but as far as I know, that's not against the law.

Glad Holder is trying to undo the injustice as much as is possible.

Too bad he can't similarly remediate the miscarriage of justice in the case of Don Sigelman in Alabama.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 06:08 PM

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 05:46 PM

Ted Stevens is a Republican. Based on evidence presented at the time, the Bush justice department would have been crucified if they HAD NOT prosecuted Stevens.

Being an occasional conspiracy-suspector (especially in regard to the Bush administration), I tend to think that they had to prosecute him, as you say, but then they fouled the process up on purpose, so that eventually he'd have to be let off.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 05:02 PM

Probably why he wanted the jury to come from Alaska and not DC.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: robomatic
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 04:15 PM

I remember one juror's post verdict comment that Ted testifying for himself was the most damning witness presented.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 01:37 PM

And why would they? And should they be prosecuted?



      "(Besides, his brother Tom is a folk singer.)"


          Well, I guess it's all right then!

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 01:29 PM

Why the Bush Justice Department prosecution withheld information from the defense attorneys.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: DougR
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 01:26 PM

Ted Stevens is a Republican. Based on evidence presented at the time, the Bush justice department would have been crucified if they HAD NOT prosecuted Stevens.

This current situation is not a question of guilt. It's a question about why the prosecution withheld information from the defense attorneys.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 01:19 PM

Rig, Mark Begich is no buffoon. He is a well-known, well-vetted politician. His history is open, and goes way back; his father was Congressman Nick Begich whose plane, along with Hale Boggs, was lost in the Alaska wilderness and has never been found.

(Besides, his brother Tom is a folk singer.)

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Big Mick
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 01:13 PM

Two important distinctions.

The Dem's used the jury's verdict because they thought it legit.

As Carol pointed out, it was Obama's AG that was called a "pillar of integrity" in this, and correcting the situation.

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 12:56 PM

Link

John

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 12:56 PM

How would they be different from the rest of us?

Subject: RE: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 12:52 PM

It should be pointed out that it was the Bush Justice Department that prosecuted the case, and the Obama Justice Department that dropped it.

Subject: BS: What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon
From: Riginslinger
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 12:22 PM

The Feds are in the pursuit of a course to drop the charges against Ted Stevens. It looks like the whole thing was politically motivated, just like Stevens said it was. The prosecustion withheld evidence.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090401/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/stevens_justice_14

          What if Alaska ends up with a buffoon in the Senate?