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Lyr Req: I See His Blood upon the Rose (J Plunkett

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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blood Upon The Rose
From: Big Tim
Date: 10 Oct 03 - 02:08 AM

The new "Encyclopaedia of Ireland" describes Grace as a cartoonist, educated at the Slade School of Fine Art in London (wonder if she knew Dora Carrington?). She published 3 books of cartoons, in 1919. 1929, and 1930.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blood Upon The Rose
From: Big Tim
Date: 08 Oct 03 - 11:25 AM

Grace was also an artist. I heard a story that when she was interned in Kilmainham Jail during the Civil War she did some paintings on her cell walls. Later, a cleaner, unaware of their artistic and historical interest, washed them out. Can anyone verify this?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blood Upon The Rose
From: Big Tim
Date: 08 Oct 03 - 03:08 AM

Grace died in 1955. Her sister Muriel was the wife of Thomas MacDonagh.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blood Upon The Rose
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Oct 03 - 08:08 PM

Here's a picture of Grace


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blood Upon The Rose
From: JedMarum
Date: 07 Oct 03 - 02:00 PM

ooops. I meant to inlcude linke.

Seamus website

Link to CDbaby page for this album.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blood Upon The Rose
From: JedMarum
Date: 07 Oct 03 - 01:56 PM

Seamus Kennedy included a fine recitation of this poem on his "A SMILE AND A TEAR" album - then he sang the brothers O'Meara song, GRACE.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blood Upon The Rose
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 07:08 PM

And here's a site about Joseph Mary Plunket, with a photo and some more poems and stuff.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Blood Upon The Rose
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 07:21 PM

Here's another song by Plunkett which I oncve posted on the Cat, but it never got harvested, so I'll do it again here (the tune he had for it is to "The Groves of Blarney"):

As I walked over to Magheraroarty
On a summer evening not long ago,
I met a maiden most sadly weeping,
Her cheeks downstreaming with the signs of woe.
I asked what ailed her, as sure became me
In manner dacent with never a smile.
She said, I'll tell you, O youthful stranger,
What is my danger at the present time.

On my father's land there are many mansions
With sheep and cattle and pigs go léor,
Until the Saxon came over the border
With detention orders that raked him sore.
His herds they plundered and killed five hundred,
And the rest they sundered, north, east and south,
Saying keep the hides and the woollen fleeces
For the beasts have diseases of the foot and mouth!

With these words deceitful sure he was cheated,
Not a mouth was dropping, not a hoof was sprung,
But the only disease came over from England
The Cloven Hoof and the Dirty Tongue.
Now what can avail me, O youthful stranger
To save the beasts and my father's life,
And my marriage portion that's my only fortune
For the lad that's courting me to be his wife?


The thing about Foot and Mouth is that though it's terribly infectious, it's not that serious a disease for the beasts involved, they'd be unlikely to die of it - but they are slaughtered because that's seen as a cheaper option. Peasant farmers in Ireland at the start of the century bitterly resented that policy.


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Subject: Lyr Add: I SEE HIS BLOOD UPON THE ROSE (Plunkett)
From: paddymac
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 06:02 PM

This thread arises from a post in the thread "Words to "Newgrange" by The Wolftones". I thought this might be easier to track if in a separate thread. The request in the other thread was for the lyrics to the O'Meara's marvelous song "Grace." The lyrics include the line "I see (or saw) his blood upon the rose," which is from a poem written by Joseph Mary Plunkett, the "hero" of "Grace." I ran across the poem in "1000 years of Irish Poetry" edited by Kathleen Hoagland and thought some Mudcatters might appreciate it. Thus, here it is.

I SEE HIS BLOOD UPON THE ROSE, by Joseph Mary Plunkett

I see his blood upon the rose
And in the stars the glory of his eyes,
Hi body gleams amid eternal snows,
His tears fall from the skies.

I see his face in every flower;
The thunder and the singing of the birds
Are but his voice- and carven by his power
Rocks are his written words.

All pathways by his feet are worn,
His strong heart stirs the ever-beating sea,
His crown of thorns is twined with every thorn,
His cross is every tree.


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Subject: RE: Blood Upon the Rose - poem by Joseph Plunkett
From: SingsIrish Songs
Date: 07 Jul 99 - 04:47 PM

Joe,

I searched for Joseph Plunkett at Alta Vista and came up with it...I just searched his name (at Alta Vista) this time in quotes to narrow the search and found this site about the Uprising...the specific link tells Joseph and Grace's story and includes some photos...

http://members.tripod.com/~banaltra/Saoirse/Plunkett.html

Mary


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Subject: RE: Blood Upon the Rose - poem by Joseph Plunkett
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Jul 99 - 02:27 PM

Thanks, Irish. I am duly impressed...and humbled.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: Lyr Add: I SEE HIS BLOOD UPON THE ROSE (Plunkett)
From: SingsIrish Songs
Date: 07 Jul 99 - 01:43 PM

I SEE HIS BLOOD UPON THE ROSE
Joseph Mary Plunkett, 1887-1916

I see His blood upon the rose
And in the stars the glory of His eyes,
His body gleams amid eternal snows,
His tears fall from the skies.

I see His face in every flower;
The thunder and the singing of the birds
Are but His voice--and carven by His power
Rocks are His written words.

All pathways by His feet are worn,
His strong heart stirs the ever beating sea,
His crown of thorns is twined with every thorn,
His cross is every tree.


Notes: Joseph Plunkett was a visionary poet from a noble Irish house. He was exected by the British in 1916 for his part in the Easter Rising.

found at the following site Joseph Plunkett Poem


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Subject: Blood Upon the Rose - poem by Joseph Plunkett
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Jul 99 - 01:24 PM

Back in the thread on the song called Grace, Mick Bracken mentioned a poem called "Blood Upon the Rose," written by Joseph Mary Plunkett. I Searched the Web and found just one reference to the poem - but no text. Might somebody be able to find this poem - maybe in an actual book - and post it for us?
thanks.
-Joe Offer-


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