BS: The White Angle Saxon Male

Subject: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Amergin
Date: 22 Jun 09 - 10:37 PM

you know I was off busy doing some work today...and on my mp3 player came up the song Endangered Species by Eric Bogle...

Now I think all of you middle aged white Anglo-Saxon males out there should listen to this song. You will see how offensive his lyrics are towards your kind. You should get together and protest the effrontery in this song, and write angry letters to Eric....and camp out in woods banging on drums, chanting while sitting naked around a campfire, your flabby bellies, and sagging muscles flowing across the earth, your balding heads shining in the moonlight, the red flames reflecting off the perspiration layered skin....all in protest of this evil mean spirited song. I would join you...but I am too young...

For anyone who has no idea what I am rambling on about the lyrics can be found by following this link:

Endangered Species

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: meself
Date: 22 Jun 09 - 10:46 PM

Nothing about Black Anglo-Saxon Males?

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Amergin
Date: 22 Jun 09 - 10:47 PM

Not yet...but who knows...he may write a song to offend those as well....

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: wysiwyg
Date: 22 Jun 09 - 10:59 PM

It may surprise you to know that I have often lodged complaints about male-bashing material-- generally, wherever I have seen it.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: number 6
Date: 22 Jun 09 - 11:06 PM

what's a Saxon?




biLL

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 22 Jun 09 - 11:19 PM

Plays a sax.

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: number 6
Date: 22 Jun 09 - 11:23 PM

Ok ... I get it then.

An angle Saxon is an alto player (head tilted a bit) trying to hit those 'D' notes.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Alice
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 09:42 AM

what an ANGLE Saxon?

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: artbrooks
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 10:17 AM

Why, I didn't find the song at all demeaning or insulting...in fact, it actually exaggerates the prowess of the middle-aged white Anglo-Saxon male in some respects. "Twice a month" indeed!

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Smokey.
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 01:07 PM

A white angle Saxon is one with a bend of precisely 90 degrees, although these days they tend to be hinged.

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Ernest
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 01:18 PM

It might be offensive to a certain `hran playing catter...shame on Mr. Bogle...

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 03:47 PM

ERNEST! The is offensive!

Hahahahahahaaaaa.

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 03:52 PM

Oh... sorry... I thought you meant me... but the lyrics say "twice-a-month-erectual", not "twice-a-day".

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 03:53 PM

"Thee is offensive!" I am dixlexic.

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 04:10 PM

Geez! I thoight this flippin' thread was probally about ME but then I read the flippin' song. Flip me! The sorry looser that wrote it needs help REAL bad, that is alls I can say. What a bolthole this guy must be! He should try playin' a gig in Blind River or Sudbury and see if he gets out alive afterwards. I would go there just to watch the fun, eh? Maybe to throw some eggs too.

And what are all the wierd flippin' animals in the song? What the flip is a manatee?

- Shane

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 04:23 PM

$6 at Walmart. Assorted colours. No pocket, though.

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 05:13 PM

No kiddin', eh? Okay, I am gonna go buy one fer myself. No one else in this flippin' town has a manatee yet. I will be the first.

- Shane

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 10:24 PM

A manatee is found along the SE US coast. It looks something like a potato with flippers. Florida's state animal, it weighs up to 1500 pounds.

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Janie
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 11:06 PM

Ah, 1500 lb. potato with flippers.

A match made in heaven for Shane.

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: GUEST,hg
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 11:13 PM

they're very docile...you can pet them in the water and they won't turn over your kayak...unlike some shallow running crankbaits I know...

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Janie
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 11:14 PM

LOL!

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Amos
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 11:50 PM

They are also found in preserves along the Central American coast, particularly in Belize. But they are not white, are not Anglo Saxon, and may not be male. They are sweet somewhat bovine critturs, like a Shmoo with flippers and whiskers. They have mermaid tales and their only natural enemies in the whole world are motorboat propellors.


A

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Gurney
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 12:05 AM

Ahh, Amos, I'd heard the mermaid theory, but I supposed it must come from a world before photography.


Or memory.

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 08:29 AM

When my cousins daughter from the US visited our folk club some years ago she made the comment that it was nice to see somewhere where middle aged, middle class men can get together:-) I thought it was perfectly valid. Maybe this should become out theme somg?

Anyhow - who said 'What is a Saxon'? In answer I must point you to the Norse Film and Pageant Society. They had trouble recruiting members until they introduced Saxon beserkers and a cold buffet at every meeting. People then went along for the Saxon thugs and sausage rolls...

:D (eG)

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Stringsinger
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 11:56 AM

Eric Bogle is a trenchant satirist and songwriter as well as writing haunting, memorable songs.

I don't get this as a male-bashing thing. He may step on a few corns but his thesis
deserves a hearing.

A lot has to do with the value system that many white men have embraced, an authoritarian
pomposity that covers up unhealthy life-styles and a false supremacy. I don't think Eric
intends to lump all white males into this category but there are certainly examples of those who fit his characterization. I see them in our government and on Wall Street.

I see this as attempt to reevaluate the male role in society. That really needs to be done.

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: robomatic
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 12:02 PM

I can't believe all this Bogle bashing. Ain't none of yez heered o' Randy Newman?

"short people got no reason to live"

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Stringsinger
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 12:04 PM

Right, robo. It's satire. Lighten up folks.

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: meself
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 01:01 PM

Have you two actually read this thread? If so, who exactly is it that is "Bogle bashing", and who needs to "Lighten up"?

Jeesh.

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 07:41 AM

Indeed, this is a great song.   It seems some people have never heard of satire.   Anybody who wants real Bogle-bashing can always get their fix on the Plastic Paddy thread.   With--guess what--more people who don't recognize satire.

As was just said--"Jeesh".

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Acorn4
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 08:11 AM

I saw Eric B do this at Southwell and thought he had his tongue firmly in his cheek. Sometimes "it's not what you say it's the way that you say it".

Ironically I used to be a Bogle basher, having heard numerous "massacred" versions of Willie McBride; he did the song there and made it work because there was exactly the right amount of emotion in it without going embarrassingly over the top. Maybe there should be some sort of agreement whereby versions of certain of his songs should have to pass through a "quality control" mechanism.

At the moment my heart sinks when I hear someone start off that song or "Waltzing Matilda".

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Willie-O
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 10:58 AM

Historical note: what I learned in school was that "Anglos" really were a tribe called the "Angles". But when they had their corporate merger, I guess their branding/makeover specialists thought that "Angle-Saxon" didn't convey the image they wanted to project--and just to position themselves where they wanted, they left the "Jutes" out of the new name entirely even though they were part of the partnership.

W-O

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: meself
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 11:13 AM

(Note: There is no "real Bogle-bashing" on the "Plastic Paddy" thread. There are, however, a few dissenting comments in regard to one of his songs. Further, there is little evidence of lack of understanding of satire there. There are, however, a few dissenting comments in regard to the point of the satire in that same song.)

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: jeffp
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 04:51 PM

"When the Angles came to that part which is the south of Scotland and the north of England, the acute Angles went north, while the obtuse Angles went South"

--Anonymous (presumably a Scot)

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Peace
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 05:24 PM

Dare we mention straight angles on the California Gay Marriage Ban thread?

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Peace
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 05:30 PM

Farting around aside, years back I listened to a young White teacher ask a would-be employer how the people on the reserve wish to be called: Native North Americans/Aboriginal Canadians/First Nations/etc. The fellow said, "We call ourselves Indians." I chuckled.

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Joe_F
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 06:46 PM

Well, I'm biologically male & nominally white (or pinko-gray as I think it was E. M. Forster suggested), and I must have some Anglo-Saxon in me in that crooked line stretching backward from my mother's father). I await my extinction with bated breath.

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 07:29 PM

Listened to Purcell's "King Arthur" oratorio last night. Arthur and his Britons sacrificed six Saxons to the gods for help in battle. The Saxons were portrayed as uncouth, and their wizard couldn't hold a candle to Merlin, Arthur's magician.
Angles and Picts not mentioned, I guess beneath notice.

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: freda underhill
Date: 26 Jun 09 - 11:18 AM

what ever happened to the Jutes? have they been subject to genocide, or are they just stringing along somewhere?

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Acorn4
Date: 26 Jun 09 - 01:56 PM

The Jutes ended up in Kent and on the Isle of Wight apparently -the Frisians were also involved of course.

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: meself
Date: 26 Jun 09 - 02:06 PM

Of course! Can't keep their big Friesian noses out of anything ...

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Ron Davies
Date: 26 Jun 09 - 09:50 PM

That one about the acute Angles and the obtuse Angles is a definite classic.

But even if it was white Anglo-Saxon males, I was wondering: how many Anglo-Saxon males are not "white?"

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 26 Jun 09 - 11:35 PM

Not having lived in Britain those many years ago, I doubt that I have met an Anglo-Saxon.

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Gurney
Date: 27 Jun 09 - 01:38 AM

Good point, Ron. Presumably Wasps is better than Asps.

White Man Speaks With Forked Tongue!

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Jun 09 - 02:20 AM

I am middle aged caucasion male.
I am very pallid & ill looking white
due to unheathy nocturnal lifestyle,
rarely going to bed until UK morning or early afternooon.
In musician terms I believe its called "studio complexion".

I am so white i could probably succesfuly apply to join a Goth Metal band !!!

In fact, I am probably whiter than most UK neo nazis.

But, I know when my gene pool diverged about 100 years ago,
I can not truthfully say I am not 100% anglo saxon.

So, if and when the BNP take control of UK goverment,
I presume I may well be 'disapeared' some time before my 70th birthday.

My mother reckons one eighth to one quarter of my blood is 'impure'.

60 or 70 years ago that blood fraction may have been enough
to force me and my sister on a train to Poland.


its all bollocks really....


BNP c@nts.. can you really confirm you own father's bloodline heritage, or grand father, or great grandfather.. ????

..and I'd still bet I look 'whiter' than you do...

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Jun 09 - 02:29 AM

"I can not truthfully say I am not 100% anglo saxon."


i think i might have effed up on a double negative
if the grammar n@zis are investigating potential
're-education' camp 'volunteers'.. !!???

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Jun 09 - 11:20 AM

"White Angle Saxon Male"

Is this another penis thread?

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Ron Davies
Date: 27 Jun 09 - 12:48 PM

I was thinking about WASPs vs ASP's too.   But I thought "white Anglo-Saxons males" could be Catholic or "other"-- including these days a fair number of atheists, I imagine.

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Gurney
Date: 27 Jun 09 - 10:17 PM

Punkfolkrocker, what you have is what is known here as a 'Playstation Tan.'

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Folk Form # 1
Date: 11 Sep 09 - 10:51 AM

I have change one of the words in Endangered Species. Can anyone spot it:

Life on planet Earth is teeterin' on the brink,
Every day more species become extinct;
Every day, it seems, we lose another link in the chain,
Life's not a trailer, it's the whole main feature;
The outlook's bleak and it's gettin' bleaker,
For all those poor endangered creatures who remain.
Forget the platypusses and those funny aardvarks,
Pigmy hippopotamusses and great white sharks;
I'm tellin' you the truth, no bull faeces,
If you wannna know the most endangered species.
It's not the albatross or the humpback whale,
It's the middle-aged, ineffectual, unfashionably heterosexual,
White, Celtic male;
The middle-aged, unreconstructable, non-tax deductable,
White, Celtic male.
Back in the good old days when it took two to breed,
We swam around the gene pool scattering our seed;
Now IVF and sperm banks,
Have removed the need to serve or volley.
We used to be the hunters and providers,
Knockin' off mammoths and sabre-toothed tigers;
Now your wife shops at Foodland,
And you walk beside her with the trolley.
Forget the gorillas and the chimpanzees,
Those scaly armadillos, sea-grass-munchin' manatees;
I'm tellin' you the truth, you know that it's real.
The next one to fall from evolution's wheel,
Is not the green tree-frog or the giant land-snail,
It's the middle-aged, unathletic, flabby and pathetic,
White, Celtic male;
The middle-aged, inexplicable, daggy and despicable,
White, Celtic male.
You ain't worth savin', got no style, no cachet;
But if bad taste comes back into fashion one day,
They got your germ plasm locked away in some laboratory.
Goodbye, you dinosaur, a brave new world calls;
Not long now till the curtain falls,
You lost the race when you lost your balls - end of story.
Forget the iguanas, and the orangutans,
Those cuddly koalas and the mighty elephants;
I'm tellin' you the truth, you know it's no lie,
Put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye.
You got the future of a fart in a force ten gale,
You middle-aged, introspectual, twice-a-month erectual,
White, Celtic male;
You middle-aged, unrootable, unstable and unsuitable,
White, Celtic male.
Forget about the cheetahs and the giraffes,
Those laughin' hyenas, they're not a lot of laughs;
Don't worry 'bout the wildebeests or the kangaroos,
Remember that to some at least no gnus can be good gnus.
In the battle for survival someone has to fail,
It's the middle-aged, undesirable, use-by-date expirable,
White, Celtic male;
The middle-aged, indefensible, obsolete, dispensable,
White, Celtic male.

Subject: RE: BS: The White Angle Saxon Male
From: Folk Form # 1
Date: 11 Sep 09 - 10:53 AM

Or this, maybe:

Endangered Species
Life on planet Earth is teeterin' on the brink,
Every day more species become extinct;
Every day, it seems, we lose another link in the chain,
Life's not a trailer, it's the whole main feature;
The outlook's bleak and it's gettin' bleaker,
For all those poor endangered creatures who remain.
Forget the platypusses and those funny aardvarks,
Pigmy hippopotamusses and great white sharks;
I'm tellin' you the truth, no bull faeces,
If you wannna know the most endangered species.
It's not the albatross or the humpback whale,
It's the middle-aged, ineffectual, unfashionably heterosexual,
White, Jewish male;
The middle-aged, unreconstructable, non-tax deductable,
White, Jewish male.
Back in the good old days when it took two to breed,
We swam around the gene pool scattering our seed;
Now IVF and sperm banks,
Have removed the need to serve or volley.
We used to be the hunters and providers,
Knockin' off mammoths and sabre-toothed tigers;
Now your wife shops at Foodland,
And you walk beside her with the trolley.
Forget the gorillas and the chimpanzees,
Those scaly armadillos, sea-grass-munchin' manatees;
I'm tellin' you the truth, you know that it's real.
The next one to fall from evolution's wheel,
Is not the green tree-frog or the giant land-snail,
It's the middle-aged, unathletic, flabby and pathetic,
White, Jewish male;
The middle-aged, inexplicable, daggy and despicable,
White, Jewish male.
You ain't worth savin', got no style, no cachet;
But if bad taste comes back into fashion one day,
They got your germ plasm locked away in some laboratory.
Goodbye, you dinosaur, a brave new world calls;
Not long now till the curtain falls,
You lost the race when you lost your balls - end of story.
Forget the iguanas, and the orangutans,
Those cuddly koalas and the mighty elephants;
I'm tellin' you the truth, you know it's no lie,
Put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye.
You got the future of a fart in a force ten gale,
You middle-aged, introspectual, twice-a-month erectual,
White, Jewish male;
You middle-aged, unrootable, unstable and unsuitable,
White, Jewish male.
Forget about the cheetahs and the giraffes,
Those laughin' hyenas, they're not a lot of laughs;
Don't worry 'bout the wildebeests or the kangaroos,
Remember that to some at least no gnus can be good gnus.
In the battle for survival someone has to fail,
It's the middle-aged, undesirable, use-by-date expirable,
White, Jewish male;
The middle-aged, indefensible, obsolete, dispensable,
White, Jewish male.