BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!

Subject: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: Zen
Date: 23 Jul 09 - 04:24 PM

Now time to move on... have met some nice people here over ten years.

Take care all.

Zen

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: Rasener
Date: 23 Jul 09 - 04:38 PM

Hi Zen
I don't know you, but why would you be leaving? Has somebody upset you or what?
Les

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: artbrooks
Date: 23 Jul 09 - 04:54 PM

Sorry you're leaving..but don't forget your towel.

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: Lox
Date: 23 Jul 09 - 05:18 PM

Zen is obviously a Dolphin and we should read through his messages to discover the truth about their perspective on the world.

It's making me wonder about Liz the Squeak ... is she doing experiments on us? is she friends with Slartibartfast?

I think we should be told!!

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Jul 09 - 05:32 PM

I only see posts from 2008 to now, so guess you must've lurked a lot or the search thingie is on the fritz. Doesn't matter, really, I just always like to read back what folks have to say. I see you must've enjoyed a Scottish Mudgathering and that is GOOD! Hope life treats you well and please feel free to come back anytime.

ATB,

kat

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: Emma B
Date: 23 Jul 09 - 05:35 PM

I will miss you too - another good man down :(

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 23 Jul 09 - 07:26 PM

I didn't do it, honest guv!

Fare well.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: Rowan
Date: 23 Jul 09 - 07:28 PM

Off to a Californian beach hut?

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Jul 09 - 07:31 PM

I know now and I am still sorry to see you go...

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: CarolC
Date: 23 Jul 09 - 07:33 PM

All the best, my friend. Sorry to see such a departure.

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: Gurney
Date: 24 Jul 09 - 01:42 AM

Greener pastures, or just otter water?

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: catspaw49
Date: 24 Jul 09 - 02:10 AM

Aw dammit Man.......I don't hang out much anymore either old friend but don't go and leave what's left of us........What will I tell Cleigh and the little guy...........At least come back here and tell me you'll check in upon occasion, huh?

Please........


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Jul 09 - 09:16 AM

Maybe someone could PM me and explain who it is? Cos I have no idea.

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: gnu
Date: 24 Jul 09 - 09:34 AM

It's obviously aaccckkkk.... .. .

(Catch ya on the flip side, eh.)

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: Neil D
Date: 25 Jul 09 - 12:02 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: bobad
Date: 25 Jul 09 - 12:23 PM

I'm satori to see you go.

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: gnu
Date: 25 Jul 09 - 12:26 PM

Are you in Tangiers?

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Jul 09 - 12:53 PM

I can never relate to these "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" references at all. I tried reading it once, but couldn't sustain any interest.

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: gnu
Date: 25 Jul 09 - 02:13 PM

Imagine how I felt after I bought the set. Ask not for whom the bell tolls.... because it just peals on and on and on with vague crap and a sad story that really seems like it was being made up by the paragraph, devoid of any feelings for the reader.

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: robomatic
Date: 25 Jul 09 - 02:16 PM

Best part of it was the original radio series s.
Don't forget to "bang the rocks together!"

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: gnu
Date: 25 Jul 09 - 02:53 PM

Sorry about "mixing" that up, but I thought it was appropriate.

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 25 Jul 09 - 03:20 PM

Hey R, where u goin? Will you still use Mandolin cafe? Cheers.E

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 25 Jul 09 - 07:40 PM

Thankyou for your friendship and the good music.

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: Slag
Date: 25 Jul 09 - 08:11 PM

If you are going to work on unspeakable motorcycles in the future, I have an idea of who you may be, or become. Take care. You can peek back in every now and then to see if all thing do indeed change but stay the same.

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Jul 09 - 09:22 AM

Well R, you're better off out of it mate. The undercurrents and the shit and lies that fly around here have pissed me off too.
Better to go before you find that people are sending PM's to third parties, accusing you of doing things you never did. That's what has been happening to me, and that's why I don't come here much any more.
JM

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jul 09 - 09:57 AM

And when it happens in Mudchat, it's for everyone present to read.

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: Emma B
Date: 26 Jul 09 - 11:16 AM

And when people are deliberately provoked in mudchat in stage managed confrontations it doesn't make for friendly conversation either - especially when the ensuing deliberately engineered arguments are copied and cynically re edited.

As for PMs - I have a collection from friends and strangers alike and forwarded on to me, perpetuating a mean vendetta of a bully and with the sole intention of wrecking or spoiling friendships and spreading malicious lies

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 26 Jul 09 - 11:22 AM

Sorry to see you go R. Hpe you are well

Khatt x

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jul 09 - 12:47 PM

Editing is something I would never do. No need.

I agree about the bullying... it was so bad that I and others were forced elsewhere... some even left The Café altogether.

But, I have said it all before... goodbye.

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: SINSULL
Date: 26 Jul 09 - 01:18 PM

STOP!
This bickering is exactly what is causing people to leave. Above the line used to be a font of information on music, lyrics, performers - brilliant stuff. Below the line used to be (mostly) witty and urbane humor mixed with intelligent discussions of current events.
It has been dragged down to the lowest common denominator. Unfunny unhumorous drivel and mean spirited attacks.
Your petty quarrels are destroying this forum.

R, good luck to you.
M

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jul 09 - 01:18 PM

Oh... I just thought of something else for a discussion about leaving in circumstances such as those above.

Once again, I would like to thank Max and the moderators for the "freedom of speech" policy and all the hard work they do. Some may say they are "just human", but the mods did a pretty good job of curbing the bullying and nastiness as much as they could when I and others called upon their help. They can't work miracles, but they did what they could. One in particular... thanks again.

I would like to see a Mudchat where posts remained viewable for a couple of days. I think that would hold the tongues of bullies accountable. But, I realize it might not be in the budget just yet.

Sorry about that... until my memory kicks in again, goodbye.

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Jul 09 - 01:31 PM

I've never been on Mudchat. I figure I'm spending enough time just on the forum anyway, so best not to get drawn into anything else.

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Jul 09 - 05:47 PM

Sinsull, couldn't have said it better myself.

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: Leadfingers
Date: 26 Jul 09 - 07:24 PM

SINSULL - VERY true , and some pots and kettles in here today too !!

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Jul 09 - 08:05 PM

Yup, that's me I admit it, I do try not to respond to the shit, but every so often I just get to the end of my patience.
R I apologise for fucking your thread up, and helping to prove your point.
JM

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 05:47 PM

Well I spend less and less time on the forum. I made a decision some time back not to use other chat rooms once mudchat was back in action. I have now decided that Mudchat is the ONLY room I will use as the behind closed doors practises in private rooms has obviously lead to some very unpleasant results and I wish to be open. I have seen the results of personal attacks and think it is time Mudchat went back to being the happy meeting place it once was! If folk can't come in there without snide remarks or things they say being taken out of context and repeated in forums outside of mudcat then its about time they could!

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 01:34 PM

Namaste.

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: gnu
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 02:34 PM

Yes, Ducky... I have agreed for well over two years. Still like the idea of a chat where posts are kept online for a couple days so that everyone could read them.... especially the modereators.

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 05:45 PM

I do agree with that, Gnu. Then noone could deny what was said or not said.

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: Jeri
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 06:24 PM

There's something seriously wrong with people still trying to get others to join their side in a vendetta over something that may or may not even have happened OVER TWO YEARS AGO! For fuck's sake, if you can't get over it, don't want to try to talk to the 'other side' then shut up about it and stop trying to recruit other haters.

And if this thread continues to be a place to play out a stupid vendetta, I think it should be closed. I believe 'Zen' is long gone and his leaving has more than a little to do with the pettiness evident in this thread.

To everyone else, if anyone, no matter how much you think you like them, tries to convince you that a third party is evil, look for the evil in the one trying to convince you. Only really fucked up, nasty people want you to hate someone. Walk on and leave them, with their other nasty friends, to their own cult of anti-whomeverism.

I'm really sick of what the nasties do here. Don't even consider the thought you can get away with blaming the 'other' guys. Your choice, your behavior, your demonization, your logged-out, not-so anonymous posting. You. Not 'them'.

And I don't want PMs. If it has to do with this two year old chat room bullshit, I don't even care. It's OVER. Mudcat is not gang turf.

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 06:31 PM

Well said, Jeri!

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: katlaughing
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 06:32 PM

Amen, Jeri. I also would note that THIS mod, at least, would have NOTHING to do with the chat, as a moderator. Of course I don't anyway, but there is no way I would take that on, too. If adults can't get along then they need to get out...this is not the schoolyard and we are not the recess monitors, though lately that's what it's been feeling like.

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: gnu
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 06:47 PM

Soooo, we are cool. GOOD!

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: mkebenn
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 06:56 PM

Jeri... antiwhomeverism..I love it. Mike

Subject: RE: BS: So long... and thanks for all the fish!
From: jeddy
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 08:50 PM

extremely well said jeri!!!   i am not known for my memroy or my attention to detail but even i have noticed. enough is enough!!!!!


jade x x