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Subject: stagolee
From: The Sandman
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 12:53 PM

Here are two versions of Stagolee, one on guitar and one on banjo. Any comments would be appreciated:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnm63TK1dAY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HGBSv7YgzI


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Subject: RE: stagolee
From: The Sandman
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 12:58 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnm63TK1dAY


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Subject: RE: stagolee
From: Will Fly
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 01:16 PM

Dick - very nice singing and playing - I slightly preferred the banjo backing to the guitar. No further comment to add on the performance front.

However, I would make some comments on the actual video itself - and I hope that you find them of some use. Many professional performers, such as yourself, don't actually have much to do with YouTube and, when we see them, the video is usually the work of some other individual, amateur or professional. So, if - as a professional - you're presenting your work on YouTube as an advertisement, then you'll probably be judged on the whole package: performance and presentation. So:

• It looks like you're using a webcam plus basic software for sound and vision, and the quality of the performance is suffering because it's diminishing the good qualities of your singing and playing.

• You need more light. Even good camcorders take on a red-brown hue in poort light conditions and, unless your movie software can compensate for that, it not only looks dark but colour-shifted as well.

• I can't see what your fingers are doing on the video because you aren't placing yourself centrally in camera. You're low down and very much to one side - so we're missing all the interesting fingering, particularly on the banjo.

• Any halfway decent movie editing programme will allow your video clip to be topped and tailed so that we only get the main performance. Straight in catches the attention - several seconds of tuning or getting ready, for example, doesn't.

So, to sum up, Dick - a nice performance which could come across even better with some adjustments to the video presentation. If you ever get across to Sussex, call in and we'll do some video shoots in my studio. :-)


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Subject: RE: stagolee
From: MikeL2
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 02:45 PM

Hi Dick

I agree with what Will said, with the addition in my case on my "system|" the sound was very low and for me it spoiled a potentially good and enjoyable experience.

So some help with the technical part of presenting your talent will help you enormously.

Regards

MikeL2


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Subject: RE: stagolee
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 09:30 PM

I agree with Will and Mike: Nice performance, poor video quality--I'd like to add that the focus is much sharper on your background than on you...if you are using an autofocus camera, when you turn it on, have something in your chair for it to focus on when you turn it on.

Charles


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Subject: RE: stagolee
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 09:33 PM

Reread before sending, Kratz. Avoid stupid repetitions. Also, I should have said "when you start to record the video, have something in your seat for the camera to focus on."

CK


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Subject: RE: stagolee
From: Leadfingers
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 09:35 PM

Dick - The sound is Crap for me as well - And I DO know what a competent performer you ARE


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Subject: RE: stagolee
From: GUEST,johnp
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 05:46 AM

Simmo filmed our version of this and he must have a great camera it sounds very good and considering how dark it was a good picture too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUrdJ9tX_b8


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Subject: RE: stagolee
From: GUEST,johnp
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 05:51 AM

not got the hang of creating a blue clicky thing yet


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Subject: RE: stagolee
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 06:25 AM

thanks everybody.


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Subject: RE: stagolee
From: GUEST,Mastermad
Date: 16 Mar 10 - 05:56 PM

Here's my response:
http://www.jukeboxmag.com/images/magazines/pages/227_p28.pdf
JBM : Labels en France Années 6 (1) : see ABC-Paramount and srcoll down to Lloyd Price.
The French text says it was derived from a nursery rhyme called Bad man stack-o-lee.
Nota: JBM is a very well known magazine written by specialists but it don't talk about 12/1895. I suppose it was otherwise it could not be a nursery rhyme but a traditional...8 years later !


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Subject: RE: stagolee
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 16 Mar 10 - 09:32 PM

The song referring to Bad man stack-o-lee is not a nursery rhyme, and appeared after 1903.
A version printed in 1927 (somewhat similar to the first ballad which appeared in 1903)-
One verse runs:
Says the captain to the police
Just keep still as any mouse,
And we will catch old Stackalee
At his woman's house
That bad man Stackalee.*
*S. J. Duffield to Robert Gordon, Sept. 1925; Adventure 1927, Spaeth Weep No More My Lady 1927, 132-133. Ref. from Cecil Brown's book.

The verses with "bad" appeared in 1903, a completely fictional tale:
One verse-
The horses and the carriages
Stretched out for about a mile.
Everybody whore and pimp had gone in hock
To put old Stackerlee away in style.
'Cause he was crap-shootin' coke-sniffin' hop-smokin'
Bad pimp Stackerlee.
(Of course he lived on to die in prison in 1912).

The last verse:
Billy Lyons and Stackerlee
Went to Heaven looking mighty curious
Michael and his angels announced
Two dudes from East St. Louis
Poor Billy Lyons and that bad pimp Stackerlee.

It would help if you had the courtesy not to jump from thread to thread.


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