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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 10 Aug 10 - 02:18 PM Speaking of eugenics, abortion, and such things, ichMael is the best argument I can think of for making birth control retroactive. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Donuel Date: 10 Aug 10 - 01:11 AM This reminds me of my short story about immortality treatments that only folks like the Gates family could afford, which leads to a form of eugenics. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 10 Aug 10 - 12:50 AM "many communities with soft water began adding flouride to the drinking water. Net effect? Healthier teeth, fewer cavities. None of the effects the paranoids predicted" Sorry to be a bore - but many of my teeth were damaged (read MORE cavities) due to too much fluoride "more will be better attitude" - I got it in the drinking water, I got my teeth rinsed with extra stuff very regularly at the dentist, fluoride toothpaste, etc.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Ebbie Date: 10 Aug 10 - 12:38 AM From Wikipedia: "The National Council of La Raza (NCLR) is a non-profit and non-partisan advocacy group in the United States.[1] It is not to be confused with La Raza Unida. Its stated focus is on reducing poverty and discrimination, and improving opportunities for Hispanics. According to the organization's website, it is "the largest national Hispanic civil rights and advocacy organization in the United States" and "serves all Hispanic subgroups in all regions of the country".[1] NCLR receives funding from philanthropic organizations, such as the Ford Foundation, and corporations such as Citigroup and Wal-Mart. NCLR serves its constituency by means of its Affiliates, nearly 300 community-based organizations. The NCLR is headquartered in Washington, D.C. and maintains eight regional offices in Atlanta, Chicago, Los Angeles, New York, Phoenix, Sacramento, San Antonio, and San Juan, Puerto Rico. The current president is Janet Murguía.[2]" There, now. Don't you feel better now? I know how important truth and accuracy are to you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 09 Aug 10 - 11:55 PM Is Bill Gates the most evil man in America? Gates Foundation Contributes to Genocidal Organization -- The National Council of La Raza (La Raza is Spanish for "The Race") is a radical political organization. It supports the supremacy of Hispanics and calls for the killing of all non-hispanics. In 1995 one of the organization's founders, Jose Angel Gutierrez, said, "We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is that if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him." In 2002 the Bill & Melinda Gates foundation gave $6,661,364 to La Raza. Gates Sr. was involved in population reduction with Planned Parenthood, but junior is taking a more aggressive approach. He's contributing to organizations that endorse mass murder. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 24 Jun 10 - 04:45 PM Wanna be careful, though, I think that's what ichMael has been up to. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 24 Jun 10 - 04:35 PM Thanks, Don. From now on, I'll stick to sniffing glue. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 24 Jun 10 - 02:57 PM Breathing a pure oxygen atmosphere over a period of time can lead to carbon dioxide poisoning. The red blood cells get so overloaded with oxygen molecules that they can't take up the waste carbon dioxide the body produces and move it to the lungs where it can be exhaled. If oxygen can be that poisonous, then it only makes sense that it can't be beneficial to breathe it in any quantities at all! So it only makes sense to avoid breathing oxygen!! Don't say you haven't been warned!! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Ebbie Date: 24 Jun 10 - 01:46 PM Good job, FP. :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 24 Jun 10 - 01:41 PM But from what I understand there's something to be said for the feel of the hard wood floor. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: frogprince Date: 24 Jun 10 - 01:40 PM Ah. yes: that situation has gotten more complicated these days. Used to be, the lady might be able to keep up the ruse for awhile if she rinsed the carpets when she washed the drapes. Now, it seems like so many of them are going without carpeting, the poor guy might go indefinitely without learning the truth. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 24 Jun 10 - 01:30 PM True. But how many men's hearts have been dashed into the rocks of despair when they discover the beautiful blonde they've been dating has been the victim of dihydrogendioxide poisoning? I think we need to seriously fight against all the various dihydrogen oxides. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: frogprince Date: 24 Jun 10 - 10:54 AM mousethief, get your facts straight! that's dihydrogenmonoxide. God only knows how many people that stuff has killed! I had a coworker who would go off on a ranting right wing kneejerk reaction to almost anything, no matter of how little significance. Someone left a satirical printout on the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide in the lunchroom. Our "conservative" buddy swore that whoever left that "commie pinko environmentalist" material there should be fired. I don't know if anyone ever told him that he was making an ass of himself one more time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Ebbie Date: 23 Jun 10 - 10:35 PM hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahah Did you ever read what was written? Did you understand it at all? Hahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahaahahahahha |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 23 Jun 10 - 10:28 PM Oh my GOD! They're selling dihydrogen oxide at Piggly Wiggly! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 23 Jun 10 - 10:24 PM This spavined old horse staggered around the racetrack back in the 1950s. Same old nonsense and misinformation. In spite of people like ichMael, many communities with soft water began adding flouride to the drinking water. Net effect? Healtier teeth, fewer cavities. None of the effects the paranoids predicted. ichMael is the best argument I can think of in favor of making birth control retroactive. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 23 Jun 10 - 08:45 PM In the Indian village of Gaudiyan, well over half of the population have bone deformities, making them physically handicapped. Children are born normally but after they start drinking the fluoridated water, they begin to develop crippling defects in their hands and feet. "Due to the excess fluoride content in drinking water, the calcium intake is not absorbed in the body, causing disabilities and deformities," said Dr Amit Shukla, a neurophysician.... Fluoride is a waste by-product of the fertilizer and aluminum industry and it's also a Part II Poison under the UK Poisons Act 1972. Fluoride is one of the basic ingredients in both PROZAC (FLUoxetene Hydrochloride) and Sarin nerve gas (Isopropyl-Methyl-Phosphoryl FLUoride). USAF Major George R. Jordan testified before Un-American Activity committees of Congress in the 1950's that in his post as U.S.-Soviet liaison officer, the Soviets openly admitted to "Using the fluoride in the water supplies in their concentration camps, to make the prisoners stupid, docile, and subservient." The first occurrence of fluoridated drinking water on Earth was found in Germany's Nazi prison camps. The Gestapo had little concern about fluoride's supposed effect on children's teeth; their alleged reason for mass-medicating water with sodium fluoride was to sterilize humans and force the people in their concentration camps into calm submission. "How they are Exterminating Us" update. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 28 May 10 - 02:32 PM I'm afraid that the propellor beanie is going to have to be put on the dangerous toy list. The shaft on ichMael's propellor beanie came loose and it screwed itself into his brain. That accounts for this and a number of other threads. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Amos Date: 28 May 10 - 11:39 AM Ich: It appears to me that ninety-nine percent of what you have been reading about Obama is pure-dee unmitigated horseshit. Unfortunately you don't seem to have the delicate discriminatory skills needed to tell the difference, so you're in the wholesale market for fairytales and codswallop, and are making these things into your way of life. When you grow upo this will all just be amusing to you. But you have to start soon or your face will get stuck in this mindset and you'll be Peter Pan forever... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Stringsinger Date: 28 May 10 - 10:44 AM I think that a combination of environmental control and the proper use of vaccines are necessary. Unfortunately, today, there are those who claim vaccines cause autism and have other unsubstantiated misgivings about their use. The use of vaccines in underdeveloped countries may outweigh their omission. The quality control of medicine is a problem everywhere but the alternative is anything from the black plague to rampant AIDS. Medical science is never perfect. But even a little of the right stuff goes a long way to stem infant mortality and rampant disease. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 28 May 10 - 10:09 AM Sorry about doing that in stereo folks. Don't know why that happened. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 28 May 10 - 10:07 AM ""And I hope Obama lives to be a hundred, but in his home country of Kenya, or Indonesia, or wherever the hell his CIA-sponsored mama squeezed him out."" But of course you aren't a racist! Sheesh! Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 28 May 10 - 10:07 AM ""And I hope Obama lives to be a hundred, but in his home country of Kenya, or Indonesia, or wherever the hell his CIA-sponsored mama squeezed him out."" But of course you aren't a racist! Sheesh! Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: GUEST,TIA Date: 28 May 10 - 08:56 AM Oh yes. This is going to be huge. Mark it on your calendars folks. You heard it here first. Huge I'm tellin' ya. Huge! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Stringsinger Date: 27 May 10 - 09:36 PM The problem with selective breeding is that in the human species, it seldom works because the wrong genes are identified. The famous physicist whose genes were intended to be harvested via sperm samples said, "My kids all turned out to be guitar players. Instead of my sperm, you would have to go to my working class immigrant father to create someone like me." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 27 May 10 - 09:16 PM . . . bloody insane. . . . Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 27 May 10 - 09:06 PM lol. Don't tell me to suck it up, Don, not after what I've been reading about Obama's exploits. And I hope Obama lives to be a hundred, but in his home country of Kenya, or Indonesia, or wherever the hell his CIA-sponsored mama squeezed him out. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 27 May 10 - 08:55 PM lol. You make me laugh, Don. I couldn't get through your entire post but I'll slog through it all later. I don't think I've demonstrated racism here. I don't like Obama, but then I didn't like the Bushes or Clinton either. The problem with the Democrats is that they've been restricted to one talking point...racism. About a year ago if you were against what Obama did, you were racist, and now if you're against the federal govt, then that's code for anti-Obama racism. See how they're exploiting the racism angle and turning you into fanatical pro-govt people? And what's the federal govt done lately? Where the hell's the govt on the Gulf oil spill? (A black man's in charge, so I'm just a racist). Why the hell are we bombing Pakistan now? (Obama's a black man, so I'm just a racist). Why the hell did Obama sign off on ethanol legislation that will lead to the deaths of 330 million humans? (Obama's a black man, so I'm just a racist). How did that happen to you folks? Amazing. Let's see... Oh, I just updated the White House Homosexuality thing: http://www2.moment.net/~michael/HomosexualityWhiteHouse2.htm The update is merely a rehash of the story that broke a couple of days ago on Wayne Madsen Reports (a subscriber site). Bits and pieces have leaked out, but I think the guy at THIS blog copied and pasted the whole thing. Names of Obama's lovers, times and places. Read it for yourself. I don't have the will or desire to repeat the details, but I noticed that Madsen didn't mention actor Kal Penn. His name and some others are on other lists I've stumbled across the past couple of days. Obama's a real loverboy. (I said 'boy,' so I must be a racist). As far as the Manning thing, I made you look. That's about all that one can hope for. It turned out about like I feared it would. No big names on the stand = no media mention. A couple of the better articles I've come across on the thing are below (link maker doesn't work with the second one): http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2010/100519/ftpgObamaTrial.html http://www.examiner.com/x-47432-Baton-Rouge-Republican-Examiner~y2010m5d8-Trial-by-citizen-and-keeping-the-government-accountable And why do you folks chew on one another so? I poke around on the threads and read (folk music is what first brought me here), and a while back I saw y'all doing a hatchet job on Joni Mitchell because she's ill. Kee-rist. On a folk music site. Then you chew on your own longtime members...it's sure curious. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 27 May 10 - 05:41 PM Little Hawk, once again you sit up there on your lofty perch and pontificate to all us primitive, savage human beans. In short, for a reasonably intelligent guy, once again you've put your brain out of gear, uttered "Shazam!!"and transformed yourself into "Pompous Super-Twit!" Then, clad in cape and tights, you dashed in to rescue the poor, downtrodden ichMael from all us savage, slavering Neanderthals. Give it a rest, will you? (No, of course you won't, because it's your thing!) You look at what's going on in this thread (and others) and assume that it consists of a bunch of schoolyard bullies, all savagely picking on the dumb, fat kid, and you've leapt in to rescue him, then chastise us all and put all us mean ol' bullies in our places. What's really going on here is that ichMael is terminally bent out of shape about an "uppity black boy" who had the sheer gall to run for president—and win! And ichMael simply chokes on that. Like the other "birthers," he can't stand it! So he comes up with every possible scenario his slimy though imaginative mind can think of: secretly a Muslim. Really born in Kenya—or Indonesia, or on Mars. A flagrant homosexual. Using a false name (called "Barry" when he was younger, when his real first name is "Barack"), which, of course, proves his not what he says he is! A Master Hypnotist who has the entire world in a trance. And on and on and on, ad barfium. All in the cause of trying fan the stench of hatred for the legally and Constitutionally elected President of the United States. Why? Because he's essentially liberally oriented. And—he is a black man. Suck it up, ichMael!! What you are missing here, Little Hawk, is that ichMael is not just posting stuff here on Mudcat, he's all over the internet, posting this same sort of venom. He's promulgating the kind of vicious lies and propaganda that the "birthers," and the more rabid Tea Party goons (a pretty rabid bunch to begin with, especially considering that many of them go armed to public political rallies and events!), and anyone and everyone else who is not happy with Obama, for whatever reason, lap up with glee. Four American presidents have been assassinated. And there have been multiple assassination attempts against no less than twenty other American presidents. And— President Barack Obama has been the target of several assassination threats and alleged plots since first becoming a presidential candidate in 2007. Secret Service protection for Obama began after a death threat in 2007, when he was still serving as the junior Senator from Illinois and running for president. Some commentators have suggested the unprecedented number of death threats against Obama are at least partially tied to racist imagery and words used by some of his critics to describe the president. Among the most serious threats were a plot by three men in Denver to shoot Obama during the 2008 Democratic National Convention, and a plot by two men in Tennessee to kill Obama as part of a planned murder spree targeting African Americans later that same year.In this political climate, there is many a potential John Wilkes Booth (Abraham Lincoln), Charles Guiteau (James A. Garfield), Leon Czolgosz (William McKinley) and Lee Harvey Oswald (John F. Kennedy). And then, of course, there was Sirhan Sirhan, who killed presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy. John Hinkley, Jr. shot and seriously wounded Ronald Reagan and three others, including White House Press Secretary James Brady, leaving him severely brain-damaged. And, of course, important national figures like the Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr., assassinated by James Earl Ray. Why? Lots of people didn't like that he was speaking out for civil rights and against the Vietnam War. So—don't try to tell me that the loonies aren't out there. And there is not someone—maybe several someones—out there right now giving serious thought to trying to get himself into the history books by assassinating yet another president? And the sort of thing that hate-mongers like ichMael is posting here, AND on other web sites and forums all over the internet, is exactly the kind of venom that feeds and encourages these loonies. So it is the moral duty of any decent person who is aware of this sort of provocative hate-mongering to do whatever he or she can to try to counteract it. And when you, Little Hawk, put your oar in to defend people like ichMael from those who oppose what he is saying and doing— What sort of moral position does that put YOU in? Think about it! Don Firth P. S. And what I said to Little Hawk goes for you, too, Ake. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Ebbie Date: 27 May 10 - 12:43 PM Yep. A real show stopper. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 27 May 10 - 12:02 PM Boy that sure showed 'em! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Ebbie Date: 27 May 10 - 12:00 PM Here is what I found post-trial: Guilty on 17 Counts, among them sedition, wire fraud, mail fraud, falsification of records. Manning demands that Columbia University be shut down for its "heinous, grievous crimes". Microsoft is also found guilty, incidentally. A "Press Conference" video May 21 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Little Hawk Date: 27 May 10 - 11:40 AM Don, I think that the human race are angels in training, presently a bit confused by the painful limitations of their mortality. They can do far better, and I trust that they shall in time. We all have an absolutely tremendous potential for goodness and creativity, but we waste most of it mucking around in petty nonsense and fear-driven or appetite-driven behaviours of one sort or another. We waste it on revenge, of all things! Nevertheless I think we are very noble beings in our essential nature. Like I said...angels in training. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 27 May 10 - 10:31 AM ""No, I'm not smug necessarily, but I'm philosophical about the common foibles of man when he gathers in groups. I've seen this kind of thing happening ever since I was in first grade."" So tell us LH, as a self confessed outsider, what do you really think of the human race, and have you any aspirations to come down off that pedestal and join it? Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: GUEST,TIA Date: 27 May 10 - 08:23 AM How did that earth-shattering trial work out? I thought Obama was supposed to be completelye exposed by now. Heads of state were going to testify in Harlem. As suggested, I was holding my breath. I suppose I can breath now. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 27 May 10 - 05:51 AM ""someone at whom to toss their garbage without experiencing guilt,"" Reality check LH. Who is tossing garbage here? I think you'll find the biggest pile has Icky sitting on top. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: akenaton Date: 27 May 10 - 02:47 AM You folks need LH more than you need the the Dem Party or Mr Obama. Do you never look at yourselves in the mirror that he often provides? Little Hawk gives you the opportunity to develop depth and a degree of understanding of yourselves, yet all you can do is sneer from beneath your stones. Well said Hawk.....rationality for ever! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 27 May 10 - 01:08 AM Thanks for setting us all straight once again, O Great Lama. Doesn't it get lonely all alone up there on that mountaintop? Dante. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Little Hawk Date: 27 May 10 - 12:41 AM I'm observing the usual human behaviour in any small village, and commenting on it, mousethief. No, I'm not smug necessarily, but I'm philosophical about the common foibles of man when he gathers in groups. I've seen this kind of thing happening ever since I was in first grade. The village idiot may indeed be a genuine idiot. Or he may just be unusual in some way. Or both. Nevertheless, the dynamic that typically ensues confers little glory on any of the participants. Ebbie - I don't really know all that much about Mr Brezinski and I did not listen to his speech, no...but I do think that there are major imperial plans behind American and British foreign policy, and that among those plans are plans to eventually have a war with Iran and to conquer and occupy Iran. Heck, it's plainly obvious that such plans have been in the works for years now. As always, though, the general public has to be prepared for that somehow so that a modicum of popular support can be raised for it, specially in the USA. There has to be one hell of a lot of scare-mongering done first, lots of false rumours and unanswerable accusations, and possibly a false flag attack or two of some kind...or perhaps the Iranians can be conveniently maneuvered into commiting some rash act which will serve just as well to seal their fate. All those kinds of things have worked in the past to get the public onside for a foreign war, so they will also work in the future. There's nothing the least bit unusual about any of this. Competing empires have been doing this sort of thing all through history in order to get what they want...and what do they want? They want control of strategic resources and they want military/political/financial supremacy in their chosen spheres of influence, that's what. If they're really megalomaniacal, then they see their sphere of influence as encompassing the entire world (as they know it). The Romans saw it that way. The Greeks did too (for awhile). The Germans under Hitler did. Stalin did. The USA and the UK do also. They will do whatever they want to to achieve those ends. Obama is merely temporary in that picture, as are ALL presidents of the USA. He's an interesting case, a very bright man, and I wonder to what extent he will cooperate with the imperial agenda, and to what extent he will not. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 27 May 10 - 12:35 AM Problem here with the village idiot analogy is that THIS idiot is putting the village on display. The pages I upload are all linked to an index that mentions mudcat.org. No telling how much more traffic this place gets now because of those pages. Haven't checked in a while, but type in 'The Mudcat Pages' on google. I bet it's up pretty high. And that means a LOT of people will click on the "Spaw" link by the butt-crack smiley and read the truth about Spaw's beloved Morris Dees. I've been looking for a way for YEARS to get word out about the Dees operation, and there it is. So have your fun, folks, it's just grist for the mill. I expect my Eugenics page will become a standard reference after I've added fifty or so links. Nestle foods drying up breast milk in third world countries, Baxter shipping 72 kilos of live avian flu throughout Europe, Obama murdering 330 million people with his 2009 ethanol program. Laugh away. I ought to put a "comments" section on The Mudcat Pages so you can see what others have to say, but I don't have the heart. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Ebbie Date: 27 May 10 - 12:17 AM For some reason, LH, I suspect you did not listen to Brezinski's speech. The speech, incidentally, was cut to get as close as they can to saying the things they say he said. He did not. I think that sometimes you go just about as far off the beam as the various village phenomena. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 27 May 10 - 12:09 AM Smug aren't you? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Little Hawk Date: 27 May 10 - 12:05 AM Yeah, I could have said that too, mousethief. Either expression will serve in this case: village heretic or village idiot. Look, it works this way in the medieval village. Most of the "respectable" citizens are gossipy and competitive by nature, capable of being quite mean given a good excuse, and nothing really makes them (subliminally) happier than the presence of an utterly despised individual in their midst, someone at whom to toss their garbage without experiencing guilt, someone whom even the little children can torture and harass, someone who can hopefully be eventually dragged like Quasimodo into the central square, there to be hectored, laughed at, abused, and picked upon by the most sadistically passive-aggressive people in the community as well as the superficially righteous. It's good clean fun for the decent folks! ;-D A crowd is guaranteed to gather and much spectacle is guaranteed to unfold. Every village needs its idiot, its Quasimodo...a truly symbiotic relationship. And it can only be better if the village's Quasimodo will not crawl quietly off to lick his wounds, but will return again and again to take on the respectable mob and fight back, as it were, providing them with yet more opportunities to righteously attack him. Anthony Quinn gets to play the part of the idiot if it's made into a movie. Villages love that sort of thing. It helps compensate for a lot of other frustrating stuff in life that isn't nearly so easy to define or to formulate a satisfying response to. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 26 May 10 - 11:54 PM Village heretic? or village idiot? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Little Hawk Date: 26 May 10 - 11:19 PM Hmmmm. Okay....you raise a whole bunch of interesting possibilities there, Ichmael. Where do I start? ;-) Personally, I really don't care whether or not Obama was educated in some Muslim schools in his youth, and I don't care whether or not he is a Muslim either. But most Americans care intensely, don't they?!! And I don't care whether or not he's secretly bisexual. (he has produced 2 daughters, so he obviously must be at least partly heterosexual...but perhaps he is also interested in men? If he is....I simply don't care.) But most Americans care intensely, don't they?!!! And I don't even care if he wasn't born in the USA. I simply don't give a damn. Hell, it might even help him be a more responsible politician if he'd been born somewhere else, because he'd have a more international perspective, and that would be good. Bust most American's care intensely about it, don't they?!!! And it's unconstitutional (like a lot of other stuff that gets done all the time in the USA). I find it funny...and sad...that people attach so much importance to such trivial stuff as whether Obama might be Muslim (I know all kinds of wonderful and reliable people who are Muslim), whether he might've been born in Africa (so what?), whether he might be half-gay, etc..... Yadda, yadda, yadda. Theatre of the absurd if you ask me. I wouldn't care about any of this stupid stuff in regards to a Canadian politician either. What I do care about, though, is: what are his actual policies and intentions and how is he carrying them out while in office? Your comments about Obama and his foot-dragging on launching a war against Iran are very interesting, though. I think you might be right about some of that, and about the forces in America who are thirsting for a war with Iran ASAP. Yes, Obama may be interfering with their plans, and if he is, I think they will find a way to destroy his presidency...any way that's feasible. There are several different ways to do it, some more ruthless than others. The easiest way would be by scandal of some sort. You said "For some reason he doesn't want to attack Iran." Well, yeah!!! What sane and responsible person would want to attack Iran? That's the first question I would ask. ;-) I regard Iran as the next most likely victim of a series of imperial wars of outright aggression launched by America and the UK and their proxy, Israel, and yes, those wars are precisely for the purposes you suggested: "to create a crescent of wars in the mid-east. Cut China off from the mid-east oil and also block them from getting natural resources out of Africa. Once that is done, China will have to turn on Russia as the nearest source of raw resources. Brzezinski's said forever that China and Russia need to be pitted against each other in order for America to become dominant." Bingo. That pretty well has to be the main Anglo-American plan in the present Great Game that is being waged in the world. In that game countries like Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Lebanon, the Koreas...they're just minor pieces that get beaten up and gobbled up by the big players while the big players jockey for strategic position. Excuses are found to gobble them. Obama doesn't need to be a secret Muslim to want to prevent a war with Iran. He just needs to be a reasonably rational, sane, and moral human being to want to prevent that. But if he is trying to prevent it, he will be in very great danger, in my opinion, because the people who want to pursue that policy will seek the destruction of his presidency. I think they picked him because: 1. they felt he was quite electable, and would appeal very powerfully to many people's hopes for change. 2. they felt he was controllable once elected. If he proves not to be so controllable, well, then the shit will hit the fan...and Obama's presidency will suffer accordingly. ***** No one else here is likely to talk with you seriously, Ichmael, because they're already having WAY too much fun just throwing verbal stones and ridicule at the village heretic. Every village needs one, right? You get to occupy that role here for a bit, and don't think it isn't enjoyed hugely by those who gather daily in response to your presence. You satisfy a powerful emotional need in certain people. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 26 May 10 - 11:12 PM I once had a lobe Or should I say It once had me? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 26 May 10 - 11:10 PM Sorry, mouse! Reading too fast. I thought that was from Amos. Actually, though, there's nothing really wrong with ichMael. Except, of course, for the botched lobotomy. . . . Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 26 May 10 - 09:44 PM Sorry, Amos. I gave it a quick glance, but playing in the septic tank is not my thing. I do know that we have one sick puppy there. Nothing really worth reading. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 26 May 10 - 09:38 PM Somebody read that and recap it for me, wouldja? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 26 May 10 - 09:14 PM Yes, Biden replaces Obama after the torches and pitchforks wave farewell to Obama on his jet back to Indonesia or wherever the hell he came from. Let's see...DonT and frogprince...I think I can dust off Argument # 3 for you two filosofers. And Little Hawk says: Ichmael, you indicate that you were previously concerned that Obama might get "whacked" (by the powers that be) if he didn't attack Iran? Can you elaborate on that some? I'm curious what you might have to say about it. Always the gentleman. Sure, I'll elaborate. Iran is 98% Muslim. Obama was educated in Muslim schools. There's a chance that Islam is his religion. An aside here--did any of you folks see Obama's "swearing in" at the inauguration? The one he "flubbed." He had his hand on Lincoln's Bible and all that...what a show. The news reported later that he was sworn in again, but without the Bible. There is NO WAY a Muslim would swear to the Christian God: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5567187.ece Anyway, the media has given Obama an absolute free pass on everything pertinent (same way they did the annointed G.W. Bush), so we don't know squat about him. For some reason he doesn't want to attack Iran. Maybe because he's Muslim. And this refusal to attack wasn't part of the plan. He was put into office to continue the destruction of America pushed so effectively by the Bush regime, and part of that process is more Treasury-depleting warfare. Iran is next on the list. Obama's mentor is Z. Brzezinski. He was the one who worked with the Taliban and recruited CIA operatives out of Columbia University when Obama was supposed to have been attending class there. Brzezinski groomed him and helped get him into the white house and now Obama's dragging his feet on Iran. Brzezinski's goal is to create a crescent of wars in the mid-east. Cut China off from the mid-east oil and also block them from getting natural resources out of Africa. Once that is done, China will have to turn on Russia as the nearest source of raw resources. Brzezinski's said forever that China and Russia need to be pitted against each other in order for America to become dominant. But thing's aren't going well for Brzezinski. Just a few days ago he whined that people were becoming too politically aware and the global elite's infighting might destroy the opportunity for global dictatorship. Or words to that effect: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=brzezinski+infighting&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= Brzezinski is worried because he's getting on in years and he wants his world dictatorship, dammit. He got highly frustrated when Jimmy Carter was in office. Brzezinski was his National Security Advisor, but Carter was hamstrung early on by the Iranian Hostage Crisis. Of course it came out later that the crisis was staged by the Iranians and the CIA (Brzezinski's bane...the hated Yale-based CIA), so he KNOWS that the Bush people are still lurking, waiting for another chance to do another hamstringing. He wants Obama to attack Iran NOW. But Mr. Bath-house Obama has other things on his mind, plus he's a Muslim, or is he? What a freakin soap opera. Anyway, I thought that Brzezinski might kill Obama if he didn't do what he was appointed to do, so this bath house thing looks like good news for Mr. O. Maybe they're just going to trash him, rather than kill him. But I could be wrong. Brzezinski isn't the only player in the game. There's Bill Ayers with his burning desire to start a race war in America, and he's been hobnobbing with the Brown Berets lately. Ayer's BEST chance of starting a race war would be to whack Obama and blame it on the KKK. The compassionate liberals would come clattering out of the woodwork screaming about redneck nation and all that paranoid crap to help round up...well, whoever the enemy of the moment is. Obama's bright, but he doesn't seem to know how much trouble he's in. Damned if he does attack Iran (damned for eternity), and damned if he doesn't (bullet or bath house exposure). Or so it seems. Maybe Obama's been dragging his feet because he's been afraid of having the gay thing exposed. Maybe Brzezinski himself is outing Obama so that everyone can get on with the matter at hand--WW3 leading to a global dictatorship. Who knows? Brzezinski's sure getting pissy, though, and that's not a good sign. |
