BS: Students march against tuition fees UK

Subject: RE: BS: Students march against tuition fees UK
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 11:29 AM

No excuse for voilence.

Subject: RE: BS: Students march against tuition fees UK
From: theleveller
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 11:26 AM

One of my sons is a student, the other is a policeman. Both are angry about what this government is doing because both are worried about their futures. The police have to police the student demonstration, but who will police the police demonstrations - the students?

Subject: RE: BS: Students march against tuition fees UK
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 11:24 AM

Sorry, I should have said "Some twat who has been interviewed on BBC news called Benjamin Weiss who was involved in the voilence"

Subject: RE: BS: Students march against tuition fees UK
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 11:21 AM

Some twat on BBC news called Benjamin Weiss who was involved in the voilence and got into Millbank Tower, seems so proud to have joined in and shows no concern for having a peaceful demo, like the majority.

Well I just f****** hope the university he goes too, takes note and kicks the little git out.

I get so angry about the people who can't seem to do anything but cause voilence or vandalism.

Subject: RE: BS: Students march against tuition fees UK
From: Rafflesbear
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 11:16 AM

Appalling coverage by the BBC News channel - replaying over and over again the same footage, the same incidents from different angles and not a single shot of the huge demonstration and peaceful march that preceded it.

It is virtually impossible to recognise what is a repeat and what is live. It gives the impression that there is massive violence going on for hour after hour and I do not believe that is the case.

Subject: RE: BS: Students march against tuition fees UK
From: theleveller
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 10:47 AM

"I honestly think that you're pissing in the wind."

Perhaps more like pissing yourself in dark trousers - it gives you a warm feeling but no-one notices. Anyway, I hope not!

Subject: RE: BS: Students march against tuition fees UK
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 10:32 AM

I think the voilence is a disgrace and takes away all the good work done by the rally of the peaceful majority.

Why can't these idiots just f*** off and leave the peaceful demonstrators to do it.

Subject: RE: BS: Students march against tuition fees UK
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 10:30 AM

Thanks for your reply, theleveller.

I hope that your demonstration achieves something, but given the ease with which the LibDems have reneged on their manifesto promise regarding student fees, I honestly think that you're pissing in the wind.

Hope that you prove me wrong.

Ed

Subject: RE: BS: Students march against tuition fees UK
From: theleveller
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 10:24 AM

Can I just say that I do not condone the violent tactics of a small minority. This is both unnecessary and counter-productive. This kind of behaviour discourages people from taking part in demonstrations (and I forsee quite a few in the coming months) and is also unfair to the police who are themselves angry about proposed cuts in their own budgets.

Subject: RE: BS: Students march against tuition fees UK
From: theleveller
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 10:17 AM

One of the few benefits of a coalition government is that there are MPs with differing opinions who may be prepared not to toe the joint-party line, especially if their manifesto stated they were opposed to a particular piece of proposed legislation. Hopefully, this demonstration will show the depth of feeling about tuition fees and those MPs who were opposed to it during the election campaign may just have the bottle to stand up and be counted on this issue. Whether there will be enough to make a difference remains to be seen. Anyway, as JC said, it has to be tried.

Subject: RE: BS: Students march against tuition fees UK
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 09:36 AM

In what way do you think it will it make a difference?

I'm not trying to start an argument here, and I agree to a good extent with your views, so please take me at my word.

Did the 2003 London march against the Iraq war where, (depending on who you believe) over 1 million people turned up, make any difference?

None whatsoever.

Why will this be different? I'm cynical, undoubtedly. Convince me otherwise, eh?

Good luck, anyway.

Ed

Subject: RE: BS: Students march against tuition fees UK
From: theleveller
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 09:12 AM

"Do you honestly think that it'll make a jot of difference? "

Yes.

Subject: RE: BS: Students march against tuition fees UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 08:50 AM

"Do you honestly think that it'll make a jot of difference?"
Probably a touch more than sitting on your bum and saying "Do you honestly think that it'll make a jot of difference?"
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Students march against tuition fees UK
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 08:41 AM

Do you honestly think that it'll make a jot of difference?

Subject: RE: BS: Students march against tuition fees UK
From: theleveller
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 08:15 AM

Ooooh, wonder if my lad's there. I think he was planning on going.

Subject: RE: BS: Students march against tuition fees UK
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 08:09 AM

Blimey it's over 30,000

Subject: BS: Students march against tuition fees UK
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 04:47 AM

It's today and as many as 20,000 people from across the country will be there.

Here is a link to the BBC article. Makes very interesting reading and if they follow through on some of their suggestions, then Lib Dems could be in a whole lot of bother.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11719929

I thought this part of the article was pretty interesting.

Student targets

"There is nothing fair or progressive about tripling the cost of a degree and axing college grants that are often the difference between students being able to study or not," said Ms Hunt.

Students say they will try to use the proposed "right to recall" legislation to unseat MPs who ditch their election pledge to oppose an increase in tuition fees.

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This proposal would mean that MPs guilty of "serious wrongdoing" could be forced by voters to stand down.

In particular, Mr Porter warned that student voters will target Liberal Democrat MPs who failed to keep their promise to vote against a fee increase, threatening to topple MPs with a narrow majority.

There have already been student protests against Liberal Democrat ministers Vince Cable and Chris Huhne.

An effigy of the party leader, Nick Clegg, was hanged by students staging an occupation against the fee increase at Goldsmiths, University of London.