BS: The relevancy delusion....

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 11:20 AM

No one mentions the worship of Mammon.

OK I will Jack. To my cost I know of worshipping a girl in a lustful way while trying to find and get God's help. Believe me that the words are true and that it tears you apart.

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 11:31 AM

Mammon is money.

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Bill D
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 11:34 AM

yes, yes...but words lead where they lead....

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 11:40 AM

Wow. Some brilliant stuff has been posted here. Specially that poem, "The Relevant Man". I think we may be beginning to approach relevancy.

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 11:49 AM

Thank you oh great great creator of arbitrary definitions decider of what is relevant.

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 12:12 PM

Mammon is money

I don't think so Jack. I think it is any fleshy desires of which money is just one..

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 12:14 PM

Jack?

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 12:26 PM

LH, do you know this one?

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 01:36 PM

♫♫♫RE♫♫HEHEHEH♫♫♫ELEVANCY
SCHELE♫♫♫HEHEHEHEHEH♫♫♫♫♫♫LEVANCY

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 01:38 PM

SO SORRY, MISSED OUT AN `M` IN MIDDLE OF 2ND STRAIN

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 03:03 PM

Is there a meaningful distinction between "relevance" and "relevancy", or is the difference irrelevant?

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Amos
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 03:48 PM

Why, yes. Thanks for your penetratingly relevant question.

Little Hawk strains to be relevant, but he never seems to be revelant.


A

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 04:19 PM

Oh, piffle, Amos. ;-) It's no strain at all.

Another Mudcat political poster?

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 04:30 PM

They're tackling like chocolate teapots!

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Slag
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 04:32 PM

I OBJECT!on the grounds that is IRRELEVANT and immaterial. It assumes facts not in evidence and is leading the witness. Uh, sorry. All I know about law is what I learned from Perry Mason. "STELLLLLLLA?" er I mean, "DELLLLLLA?"

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 04:50 PM

Stella? I've drunk worse. (and lots better)

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 04:50 PM

I think Chongo's very relevant...

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 04:51 PM

Are you calling Chongo a pachyderm?

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Ed T
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 05:05 PM

Anything unrelated to elephsnts is irrelephant.

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 05:11 PM

"Are you calling Chongo a pachyderm?"

Only if it's relevant...

And of course, only if Chongo doesn't mind, 'cos he's kinda sensitive about some things...

Irrelephant! Love it!

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 05:19 PM

If it's relevant, it's got no place on this thread, and if it's irrelevant then it's got even less right to be here (and I've no right to stay)

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 09:31 PM

I think the elephant is actually quite a remarkable creature. I will not say it can not go on a rampage but the power in   it's trunk alone could kill a lion. In general I think it is a gentle giant of a creature.

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 10:02 PM

I think in a BS section, ONLY BS is relevant.

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 15 Nov 10 - 04:30 AM

BS = BLACK SOCKS

Black socks, they never get dirty,
The longer you wear them, the stronger they get,
Sometimes I think I should launder them,
Something keeps telling me,
"Don't wash them yet - not yet - not yet!"

As printed in "The World's Best Funny Songs", p 54, collected and edited by Esther L Nelson, Sterling Publishing Co Inc, NYC, 1988. Distributed in the UK by Blandford Press, Link House, West Street, Poole, Dorset BH15 1LL.

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 15 Nov 10 - 08:10 AM

Elephants are very relevant at the rate they are being destroyed by irrelevant men.

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Amos
Date: 15 Nov 10 - 10:49 AM

I've discovered where Little Hawk gets his superior insights from, and I am spilling the beans right now. This charade has got to stop.


A

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 15 Nov 10 - 11:54 AM

"Elephants are very relevant at the rate they are being destroyed by irrelevant men."

But only on Sundays when there's am X in the month.

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Nov 10 - 12:54 PM

relevant elephant

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 Nov 10 - 02:09 PM

Now that's relevant. As Mark Twain might say, seeing that elephant would tend to concentrate one's mind wonderfully.

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Slag
Date: 15 Nov 10 - 03:21 PM

Gentle. Mess NOT with Mamma Nature's gentle creatures lest thou become ES (not BS).

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 15 Nov 10 - 04:22 PM

I knew there was a camel somewhere.

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Nov 10 - 04:48 PM

That elephant is unquestionably relevant.

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 15 Nov 10 - 04:52 PM

"That elephant is unquestionably relevant."

Then it shouldn't be hear (unless it's a delusion).

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Nov 10 - 04:59 PM

No, it shouldn't be their. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: John P
Date: 15 Nov 10 - 05:05 PM

A deeper definition of irrelevancy: getting pissy about other people talking about things you find irrelevant. And then telling them about it.

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Nov 10 - 12:09 AM

the obsolete man

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 16 Nov 10 - 06:46 AM

The relevant elephant is now on my background wallpaper, many thanks.

One big relevancy delusion has to be old Saint Nick, sorry hope I don't spoil the big day for you all?!

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: John P
Date: 16 Nov 10 - 10:06 AM

Actually, it appears that Little Hawk doesn't find the debates here irrelevant at all. If he thinks so, why start a whole thread about it?

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Nov 10 - 11:02 AM

John,

Little Hawk
Just liked to talk
No matter what about
He'll spout
Pearls of wisdom
Before us swines
So pay no attention
To his whines
For sure as night turns into day
He will always find nonsense to say.

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Stringsinger
Date: 16 Nov 10 - 12:13 PM

LH, intelligent dialogue is always relevant. Demonizing is not. Critical thinking is necessary to a healthy functioning society.

I think that this was what Jon Stewart was attempting to say and I commend to you the interview with Rachel Madow given to Stewart. You can find it on YouTube or on the net.

In the meantime, the delusion is the shutting off of legitimate dialogue thinking that somehow this is irrelevant just because agreement is not reached.

I agree that no minds may be changed but this is not a reasonable goal of dialogue.
The right to question, criticize and examine contradictory ideas is always a sign of
a healthy democracy and staves off the excesses of theocratic and reactionary thinking.

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Nov 10 - 11:40 PM

Stewart was very two faced in that interview and would not directly and clearly answer her questions. He screwed up the message of his own rally. He got called on it and then he went on Maddow to try to do damage control.

And btw contrary to what he said he is no Jerry Seinfeld. His show is 8 minutes of watered down Olbermann, 6 minutes of predictable sketches with his corespondents and 8 minutes of kissing the ass of someone selling a book.

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Nov 10 - 07:18 AM

You can always tell when I think something's irrelevant because I simply don't post to it.

Oh, shit....

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 17 Nov 10 - 07:41 AM

"You can always tell when I think something's irrelevant because I simply don't post to it."

Definitely delusional. (Harvey agrees)

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Nov 10 - 08:48 AM

Yeah, I seem to have lost the thread somewhere...

William Harvey?

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 17 Nov 10 - 11:31 AM

Harvey the 6ft 2in imaginary rabbit.

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Nov 10 - 12:58 PM

This is what "relevant" means.

rel·e·vant
   /ˈrɛləvənt/ Show Spelled[rel-uh-vuhnt] Show IPA
–adjective
bearing upon or connected with the matter in hand; pertinent: a relevant remark.

It does NOT mean "conforming to the sensibilities of Mudcat.org busybodies."

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Stringsinger
Date: 17 Nov 10 - 01:54 PM

"Stewart was very two faced in that interview and would not directly and clearly answer her questions."

This is not true. He did answer her questions by saying that demonizing sheds no light but heat on issues.


" He screwed up the message of his own rally. He got called on it and then he went on Maddow to try to do damage control."

No, he went on Madow to clarify his position which was distorted by pundits.

"And btw contrary to what he said he is no Jerry Seinfeld. His show is 8 minutes of watered down Olbermann, 6 minutes of predictable sketches with his corespondents and 8 minutes of kissing the ass of someone selling a book."

Olbermann is very entertaining so this would be a good model of Jon. Nothing could be more predictable than Seinfeld.

I'm glad that Jon is presenting books since Americans seemingly have forgotten how to read let alone think.

I disagree with this appraisal of Stewart. Fortunately, Rachel had the sense to have him on her show.

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 18 Nov 10 - 12:16 AM

Frank,

I heard a totally different interview from you.

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Nov 10 - 05:20 AM

Mudcat.org busybodies

I take it that this is yet another variant on "aka anyone who doesn't agree with Jacko."

Subject: RE: BS: The relevancy delusion....
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 18 Nov 10 - 06:11 AM

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