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Tech: Internet Browsers

GUEST,Shimrod 19 Dec 10 - 06:45 AM
Noreen 19 Dec 10 - 06:58 AM
Noreen 19 Dec 10 - 07:04 AM
Bonnie Shaljean 19 Dec 10 - 07:10 AM
GUEST,Shimrod 19 Dec 10 - 07:21 AM
Noreen 19 Dec 10 - 07:33 AM
Bonnie Shaljean 19 Dec 10 - 07:35 AM
Tootler 19 Dec 10 - 10:15 AM
GUEST,Peter Laban 19 Dec 10 - 10:24 AM
Bonnie Shaljean 19 Dec 10 - 10:31 AM
Acme 19 Dec 10 - 10:36 AM
JohnInKansas 19 Dec 10 - 04:14 PM
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Subject: Tech: Internet Browsers
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 06:45 AM

My ISP is AOL. Presumably someone will tell me that there is a better choice but it works (most of the time) and I don't want to go to the hassle of changing my e-mail address. The AOL main page appears when I access the Internet and I can pick up my e-mails on it. I believe that it is connected in some way (?) or powered (?) by Internet Explorer - but I'm a bit (OK very!) hazy about the exact relationship.

Recently, I was offered a 'choice' of other Internet browsers (Firefox, Google Chrome etc.) but I didn't take up that offer because I had no idea what effect changing would have on my AOL main page or on my stored e-mail addresses. I note that a lot of software (e.g. image editing software tries to 'take over' your system these days - and it can be tricky - if you don't really know what your doing - to restore the system afterwards).

The other day I accessed a particular website which informed me that, if I wanted to interact with it, I needed a browser which is more 'modern' than Internet Explorer.

My questions are:

1. If I change browsers what consequences can I expect in terms of e-mail etc.?

2. Can I have more than one browser on my system and will they compete with each other to take it over?


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Subject: RE: Tech: Internet Browsers
From: Noreen
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 06:58 AM

You CAN have more than one browser on your system. I have 3- I use Chrome most of the time now, occasionally use Firefox and also have IE for some sites which require it (grrr).

If there was a message about a more 'modern' browser it will probably have meant an upgrade to Internet Explorer, as certain things will only work with the latest version, IE8. This upgrade can be downloaded free.

These browsers can all work independently; they can make bids to take over by installing their own toolbars etc, but you always get a choice and you can refuse to let it install.

More in a bit.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Internet Browsers
From: Noreen
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 07:04 AM

From what I remember, AOL are one of the worst for 'taking over' and making you do everything through them... so AOL themselves may make it difficult for you. (Another reason for changing!)

Installing a new browser will have no effect at all on your currently stored email addresses etc.

You can keep your current email address if you're staying with AOL, and add another web-based email account (e.g. hotmail or yahoo) which you can access from any browser on any computer. This is also free of charge.

OK? Make sense?


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Subject: RE: Tech: Internet Browsers
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 07:10 AM

On my Windows 7 puter I have: Firefox / IE / Google Chrome / Safari

On my Mac I have: Firefox / Google Chrome / Safari / Camino

I have an AOL email account which I can access without problems from any of these.

I've never had the slightest problem with clashes, and find it useful to have different browsers for different log-ins (such as Yahoo & Gmail accounts) even though they all do tabbed browsing.

So go for it!


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Subject: RE: Tech: Internet Browsers
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 07:21 AM

Wow! That was quick! Thanks Noreen and Bonnie. I will take my courage in both hands and try installing Firefox for starters.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Internet Browsers
From: Noreen
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 07:33 AM

Bon chance!


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Subject: RE: Tech: Internet Browsers
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 07:35 AM

Yes - and don't let the Toolbars get you! Make sure to look at all the default-ticked boxes carefully before clicking Install.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Internet Browsers
From: Tootler
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 10:15 AM

On my Linux system I have Firefox (which I use mostly), Chromium (an unbranded version of Google Chrome) and Epiphany. It's actually a good idea to have more than one browser as I found out recently when trying and failing to edit something online using Firefox. Epiphany came to the rescue and enabled me to carry out my edit.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Internet Browsers
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 10:24 AM

You seem to be asking whether your browsing will still start at the AOL page. Most (probably all, I don't know) browsers allow you to set a 'start (or home) page', the place you can start your browsing. If you prefer to start at the AOL one, you can set your preferences that way and you'll have things exactly the way you're used to.

In firefox : tools>options>tab 'general> set your preferred start page (make sure you have the address handy)


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Subject: RE: Tech: Internet Browsers
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 10:31 AM

It also works in Google Chrome and Safari too - just tried them with my AOL mail page. No probs :-)


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Subject: RE: Tech: Internet Browsers
From: Acme
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 10:36 AM

Often times the AOL screen appears and takes over the whole screen. You may not realize that in the Windows environment you can have several windows open, and you don't need to have them full-size on the monitor. Having several smaller windows open makes it easier to find desktop links and move between other windows.

If you're using a Windows computer then your browsers all have similar icons on the upper right corner. The X closes the window (and all tabs you may have open in that window). The middle icon is (in this instance) is one that shows when the browser is open to the entire monitor. When you have a window filling the entire monitor, you see the double box symbol: toggle that and it allows you to reduce the window size. If you always have your window wide open, then you won't see much change until you drag one of the other corners (sometimes you'll find a little rough looking spot, but if you get the double-arrow pointer when you move over the window corner, that means you can resize the window. Then put your pointer on the blue or other color bar at the very top and you can move the whole window and place it where you want.) Browser windows typically re-open later in the same state they were in when you closed them last.

SRS


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Subject: RE: Tech: Internet Browsers
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 04:14 PM

Since there is no "more modern browser" than current versions of IE, anything that demands that you install "their program" instead of what you have is quite likely another scam just like the ones that insist that "your machine is infected and we are the only ones who can fix it." Any time you see "You must click here or bad things will happen" you should read it as saying "Please click here and let us f*ck you."

If you think you need another browser, you need to go to the site that owns the browser, and get it directly from there.

If you're running Windows, IE is a necessary part of the operating system, and you must have it installed in order for other functions to work. You can hide the browser functions, and never see it, but it must be still there "on the inside" in order for the system to keep running properly. In order to get security updates to the system, you must keep your IE updated so it is best to have one of the recent versions, and in most cases at present IE7 is probably the best choice for many users. IE8 is still new enough to have a few bugs when installed on WinXP or older systems, but they've been fairly minor, and it may be your best choice if you're running Vista or Windows 7. You don't have to use IE to browse, but it must be installed.

You can install as many browsers as you want. Each browser may look a little different, and some of them require that you pick numerous "add-ons" to get all of what you want them to do. All of them require that you learn how to run the one you choose to use, and once you learn how to get the best results you'll probably like which ever one you worked the hardest on.

Although I hear rumors that some sites don't work with IE, I've never encountered a legitimate site that I wanted to visit that didn't work with my (current at the time) IE, but there's nothing wrong with having another browser if you think it's a more comfortable thing to do.

John


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