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BS: Which 'True Grit' is truer?

Little Hawk 22 Feb 11 - 02:00 PM
SINSULL 23 Feb 11 - 12:40 PM
Seamus Kennedy 23 Feb 11 - 02:41 PM
Dave MacKenzie 11 Apr 11 - 06:22 PM
catspaw49 11 Apr 11 - 07:35 PM
Dave MacKenzie 12 Apr 11 - 04:01 AM
SPB-Cooperator 12 Apr 11 - 08:00 AM
Dave MacKenzie 12 Apr 11 - 07:19 PM
GUEST,Alan Whittle 13 Apr 11 - 04:02 AM
catspaw49 14 Apr 11 - 01:45 AM
GUEST,Alan Whittle 14 Apr 11 - 02:29 AM
paul vaughan 19 Jun 11 - 01:17 PM
MGM·Lion 19 Jun 11 - 05:03 PM
Wesley S 19 Jun 11 - 05:09 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Which 'True Grit' is truer?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Feb 11 - 02:00 PM

Well, you should love the new Chongo movie, then. ;-) It's a remake of Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Here's the trailer


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Subject: RE: BS: Which 'True Grit' is truer?
From: SINSULL
Date: 23 Feb 11 - 12:40 PM

Yup - The Wreck of the Mary Deare was the best movie Wayne ever made.
SINS, who couldn't sit thru anything of Wayne's except the Quiet Man if her life depended on it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which 'True Grit' is truer?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 23 Feb 11 - 02:41 PM

The Duke abides.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which 'True Grit' is truer?
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 11 Apr 11 - 06:22 PM

"'Like many viewers,' says James Naremore in Acting in the Cinema, 'I often have difficulty recalling or even registering the names of the dramatis personae in old Hollywood movies. For me at least, it is usually John Wayne getting on a horse, seldom the Ringo Kid or Ethan Edwards.'

John Wayne acts as himself (which is quite different from saying that he does not act); he has a range of recognisable gestures and a predictable way of moving ('from stylised gesture to feeling'), a way of holding his body in reserve which is in total accord with the measured Fordian unravelling of repression. De Niro, on the other hand, uses his body not only to signify character but as a site of performance activity; he conveys, across characters, a sense of acting through the body."

Lesley Stern The Scorsese Connection


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Subject: RE: BS: Which 'True Grit' is truer?
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Apr 11 - 07:35 PM

LOL.....Comparing Wayne with De Niro is like comparing Secretariat to a lame cart pony after a lobotomy.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Which 'True Grit' is truer?
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 04:01 AM

The book's discussing 'Taxi Driver' as a remake of 'The Searchers'.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which 'True Grit' is truer?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 08:00 AM

I have never understood the predilection for remakes of movies. They are products of their time, and the stars who are associated with them. All that does is drag the original down to the level of the remake.

Heaven forbid if the film industry ever tries to remake the Ealing Comedies, or the Boulton Brothers productions (aka Peter Sellars films).

It is just as bad when great songs are re-recorded and 'updated'. A great song is great because of the interpretion and feelings of the song writer, and to rerecord it in the style of the latest pop trend in appalling.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which 'True Grit' is truer?
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 07:19 PM

"Heaven forbid if the film industry ever tries to remake the Ealing Comedies"

The remake of 'The Ladykillers' is on BBC1 next Wednesday at 23:15. Actually gets 3 stars in Radio Times.

And the John Wayne 'True Grit' is on Film4 next Thursday at 14:40.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which 'True Grit' is truer?
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 13 Apr 11 - 04:02 AM

well i think we need more remakes - made with a modern sensibility. As I've said before True Grit would make a great porno classic. Just imagine if one of those snakes had bit Mattie, and someone had to suck the poison out. the whole scene is pregnant with possibilities.

also some of those old titles are very none pc.

The Good, the Bad and the Unconventionally Beautiful.


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Subject: RE: BS: Which 'True Grit' is truer?
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Apr 11 - 01:45 AM

Interesting point although I also think many movies need to be retitled for the sake of honesty. For instance, the movie in question here should have been retitled upon release as "True Shit" and then Ol' Mike could have asked which is shittier!


Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Which 'True Grit' is truer?
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 14 Apr 11 - 02:29 AM

Hang 'em High! (Sentence Commuted)
She Wore a Yellow Ribbon (but it was a very wide ribbon, and she was treated as a valued human being rather than merely as a piece of flesh - and the whole question of sexuality was very tastefully handled)
Gunfight at the OK Corral(which solved nothing of the world's ills, because violence never does)


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Subject: RE: BS: Which 'True Grit' is truer?
From: paul vaughan
Date: 19 Jun 11 - 01:17 PM

I was given a DVD of this today as a gift for Fathers Day. I found it to be equally as valid and every bit as entertaining as the original. However, one thing puzzles me. Why is it that Hailee Steinfeld's name is completely absent from the front cover yet her character and her performance are central to the success of this movie? Maybe some things never change, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Which 'True Grit' is truer?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 19 Jun 11 - 05:03 PM

the movie in question here should have been retitled upon release as "True Shit" and then Ol' Mike could have asked which is shittier!···
,,,,,,,
A bit less of the "Ol'", Spaw, if you would be so good. Why, I am not even 80 yet ~ quite!

~M~

and I should never dream of making so vulgar a comment ~~ or, anyhow, not much...


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Subject: RE: BS: Which 'True Grit' is truer?
From: Wesley S
Date: 19 Jun 11 - 05:09 PM

"Why is it that Hailee Steinfeld's name is completely absent from the front cover ?"

My guess is because she's a newcomer and a girl. And so she was paid a lot less than the male stars. That's just how Hollywood works.


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