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Lyr Req/Add: All for Me Grog / All Gone for Grog

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ALL THROUGH THE ALE
FAREWELL TO GROG
HERE'S TO THE GROG
OH FOR ME GROG (2)


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Subject: All for me grog.
From: Steven
Date: 19 Sep 99 - 05:13 PM

I heard this song at a back yard party.All I can remember is this part. " And its all for me grog' me lolly jolly grog. All for me beer and tobacco."


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: bob schwarer
Date: 19 Sep 99 - 05:28 PM

There are many versions of this song. If someone doesn't post a lyric soon, I will. Right now I'm in the midst of a project.

Bob S.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: bob schwarer
Date: 19 Sep 99 - 05:32 PM

Dumb me. Do a lyric search for "All for me grog" & you'll come up with at least one version.

Bob S.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: Barry Finn
Date: 19 Sep 99 - 05:51 PM

Back, maybe a few yrs ago there was a thread on this & the histroy of Grog. There's also a great Aussie version. Barry


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Subject: Lyr Add: ALL FOR ME GROG (Australian version)
From: poet
Date: 19 Sep 99 - 06:00 PM

ALL FOR ME GROG

Chorus
And its all for me grog me jolly jolly grog.
Its all gone for me beer and tobacco.
Well I've spent all me tin in the shanty's drinking gin
Now across the western ocean I must wander.

Well now where are me boots me jolly jolly boots.
They've all gone for me beer and tobacco.
The heels they are worn out and the toes are kicked about
and the soles are looking out for better weather

well now where is me shirt me jolly jolly shirt.
Its all gone for me beer and tobacco.
For the collar is all worn and sleeves they are all torn.
And the tail is looking out for better weather.

Well I'm sick in the head and I haven't gone to bed.
Since first I came ashore from me slumber.
For I spent all me dough on the women don't you know.
Now across the western oceans I must wander.

Aussie Version


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: Barry Finn
Date: 19 Sep 99 - 06:14 PM

Hi poet & all, if you search the DT [for me grog] you'll find a much fuller Aussie version. Barry


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: bill\sables
Date: 19 Sep 99 - 06:36 PM

I think that one of the nicest versions of this song was recorded by Caroline and Sandy Paton on New Harmony it is titled "All gone for grog" and available from Folk Legacy. Cheers Bill


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: Steven
Date: 19 Sep 99 - 07:34 PM

The one that sound familiar, is the one by poet.Was a good party. Thanks Steven.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: Jack (Who is called Jack)
Date: 20 Sep 99 - 01:51 PM

On a Clancy Brothers recording they have the last two lines as

I'm seeing centipedes and snakes and I'm full of pains and aches

And I think I'll make a pack for way out yonder


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: selby
Date: 20 Sep 99 - 02:33 PM

For me their is only one recording of all for me grog and the filing systewm has broken down in our house (kids) and That by the WATERSONS and for the live of me i cant remember which cd its on Keith


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: Martin _Ryan
Date: 20 Sep 99 - 03:56 PM

Keith

"Early Days" - and I agree!

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: poet
Date: 20 Sep 99 - 07:35 PM

yes I know there's a fuller version but I have trouble Learning additional verses to songs I've been singing for years. A sign of approaching senility maybe!


Graham (Guernsey)


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Subject: Lyr Add: ALL FOR ME GROG (from The Watersons)
From: radriano
Date: 20 Sep 99 - 07:39 PM

Here's the version of this song that the Watersons did

ALL FOR ME GROG
The Watersons


All for me grog, me jolly, jolly grog
All for me grog and tobacco
For I spent all me store with the lassies on the shore
And it's all for me grog and tobacco

Chorus (repeat 1st verse)

When I come home then me sweetheart I shall see (all for me grog and tobacco)
And me sweetheart shall sing when she sees the wedding ring (and it's all...)

When she's a son for to gangle on her knee (all for me grog and tobacco)
She will sing him to sleep while I sail the stormy seas (and it's all...)

When he's a ;man, then a sailor he shall be (all for me grog and tobacco)
With his pipe and his can like a proper sailor man (and it's all...

regards to all,
radriano


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 20 Sep 99 - 11:12 PM

Now I'm pissed out me head
And its time I went to bed
I've not been quite this bad since last October
Now me visions getting blurred
And me words are very slurred
But in the morning, I will wake up feeling sober.

(I think a severe hangover is more likely for me and with lyrics like that I probably deserve one!)

Jon


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Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: ALL FOR ME GROG
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 21 Sep 99 - 11:03 AM

G'day,
^^^ Here's the version we do, with chords:

ALL FOR ME GROG

Well I (G)am a ramblin' lad me (C)story it is (G)sad
If (G)ever I get to Lachlan I should (A7)wonder(D7)
For I (G)spent all me (G7)brass in the (C)bottom of the (D7)glass
And a(G)cross the western (C)plains I must (D7)wan(G)der.

And it's all for me grog, me jolly jolly grog
It's all for me beer and tobacco
For I spent all me tin in a shanty drinking gin
Now across the western plains I must wander.

Well I'm stiff, stony broke and I've parted from me moke
And the sky is lookin' black as flamin' thunder
The shanty boss is blue 'cause I haven't got a sou
That's the way they treat you when you're down and under.

I'm crook in the head and I haven't been to bed
Since first I touched this shanty with me plunder
I see centipedes and snakes, and I'm full of aches and shakes
And I think it's time to push for way out yonder.

I'll take to the Old Man Plain, and criss-cross him once again
Until me eyes the track no longer see boys
And me beer and whiskey brain search for sleep but all in vain
And I feel as if I've had the Darling Pea boys.

So it's hang yer jolly grog, yer hocussed shanty grog
The beer that is loaded with tobacco
Graftin' humour I am in, and I'll stick the peg right in
And settle down once more to some hard yakka.

Cheers,
Alan


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: Barry Finn
Date: 21 Sep 99 - 06:17 PM

Great version Alan, thanks. I've a couple of questions on some of those words, could you possibly enlighten me? What's the Old Man Plain & the Darling Pea? Also what's hard yakka & Lachlan?

I brought this back up from an older thread, thought it might be of interest. Thanks Alan. Barry


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: Graham Pirt
Date: 23 Sep 99 - 04:40 PM

I think I agree about the waterson's version but I have to say that caroline and Sandy's version (mentioned by Bill) is a really interesting and different presentation and one that I like


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 23 Sep 99 - 06:52 PM

G'day Barry,

I see Alan has not yet got back to you, so I will give a quick glossary:

The Old Man Plain is a (generalised term, not official name) wide desert area (back of beyond, as it were)

The Darling Pea is an illness from eating a native plant (usually suffered by your horses or cattle ... but after a bender ... who knows?

Hard yakka = hard work, hard grafting

The Lachlan is a river and a valley down in the cooler south of New South Wales.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 23 Sep 99 - 07:05 PM

G'day again Barry,

Sorry - esprit de l'escalier - as I submitted the reply, I realised that I should have given a better explanation of the old man plain.

What is meant is "that great big plain" (that I am going to have to cross ... or die trying). The words old man in this sense are Aboriginal / English (Pidgin) for big(gest) so "old man kangaroo or emu" means the biggest kangaroo or emu around ... the biggest ... the boss!

This is an interesting, early, example of Aboriginal usage filtering back into Standard (well, Bush Standard) speech.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: Barry Finn
Date: 23 Sep 99 - 10:41 PM

Thanks very much Bob. I/ve always loved that version but have always sung the other not knowing what it meant. Barry


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 23 Sep 99 - 11:38 PM

G'day Barry,
I see Bob has answered your questions. Just an extra note: The Darling Pea is also known as Poison Pea in Queensland. It affects the vision of animals & they often die.

Hocussed shanty grog probably refers to home brew served by the publican poisoning the customers.

The Lachlan Valley is the area where I was born and is mentioned in many Aussie songs e.g. Lachlan Tigers, Streets of Forbes etc.

Cheers,
Alan


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Feb 05 - 08:37 PM


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: Bert
Date: 18 Feb 05 - 09:39 PM

here is an obvious relative of All for me Grog


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: goodbar
Date: 18 Feb 05 - 11:32 PM

i play it like this


and it's [G] all for me grog, me [C] jolly jolly [G] grog
all for me beer and tob[D]acco
for i've [G] spent all me tin with the [C] lassies drinkin' [G]gin
far a[D]cross the western ocean i must wa[D7]nder[G]


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 02:06 AM

"All Gone for Grog" on the Sandy and Caroline Paton New Harmony CD is a very different version. The tune is much gentler, more like a parlor song. Is anyone else familir with Sandy's version, and have you heard anyone else use his tune? I couldn't find the booklet for that album - maybe I didn't get one. Can anybody post Sandy's lyrics and comments? Sandy?
If not, I'll transcribe it by ear one of these days.
Here's a post from Sandy from another thread:
    Thread #11737   Message #88960
    Posted By: Sandy Paton
    23-Jun-99 - 04:03 AM
    Thread Name: Trad. American Drinking Songs?
    Subject: RE: Trad. American Drinking Songs?

    I collected an American version of "All Gone for Grog" from a gal in Connecticut who had it from her grandfather who lived in South Carolina. Caroline and I recorded it on our New Harmony (C-100). Can't consider it a genuine "American" drinking song, however, since it has British roots. What about "We never stagger, we never fall; we sober up on wood alcohol... etc." We all grew up singing that one. Was it mentioned earlier? If so, I apologize for the duplication. It's very late!

    Sandy (experiencing a senior moment)


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: Kaleea
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 02:56 AM

This is my alltime fav Irish drinking song! Why? cause when I was an activities director in a nursing home years back, I was going through the back lounge, hummimg, where the folks were lined up around the TV, dozing or looking at nothing with vacant stares. I came back through singing the lyrics--all for me grog--and the folks literally woke up as if from a stupor, smiled, waved their hands in time, laughed, and enjoyed the song. Not too much later, I had my Ceoli band play for the whole house. I never had so many of my residents--including many bed-bound folks--in attendance for an activity. The power of Music!


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: All for me grog.
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 04:49 PM

Number 475 in the Roud Folk Song Index. You'd expect a 19th century music hall or broadside derivation for this one, but I don't know of any. At all events, it's been most often found in England, where it seems to have originated, and from where it made its way to Australia, Canada and the USA (one Scottish example appears in Greig-Duncan III). It appears never to have been found in Ireland until the Clancys made a commercial recording of it; presumably they got the song from an English or Australian source.


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Subject: ADD Version: All Gone for Grog (Paton)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 02:06 AM

I got a nice message from Sandy Paton this evening. He didn't have time to post the lyrics, but he gave me some interesting background information and gave me permission to post it:
    Haven't had a chance to look at the Mudcat lately, Joe, so I've only just now seen your note. The version I sing of "All Gone for Grog" was collected from Kate Koons, a Connecticut gal I met one night at a coffeehouse gig I did alone because Caroline had the flu. I failed to get her address or phone number, but she had sung the song for me after the program and I really wanted to learn it from her. Caroline went to work and, through the owner of the coffeehouse, managed to locate her father, that took a series of phone calls. When we finally reached him, we discovered that, while we were trying to locate her, she had married and moved to New Hampshire. We tracked her down, visited her at her home in New Hampshire, and recorded her singing the song.
    She told us that she had learned the song from the singing of her grandfather, an educated man who lived in South Carolina -- not a rustic from the hill country. She had no idea where he might have heard it.
    I've always like the somewhat pensive quality of the song as we learned it from Kate. Quite different from the more rowdy versions we've heard from England, Ireland and Australia. I'd not located another version of the song from anywhere in the U.S., although it may exist in some U.S. collection I haven't seen.
    I thought I had used Kate's singing of the song on the field recording I did for New World Records, which I thought you had, but I don't have a copy here at hand, so I'll have to check on that later.
    Too late now to look for the thread on the Mudcat, but you can tell the story for me, if you wish.



It's not on the Brave Boys collection Sandy recorded for New World, but I transcribed it from Sandy and Caroline's recording on their New Harmony CD. If somebody is willing to notate it for us, send me a personal message and I'll send you a realplayer recording of the song.
-Joe Offer-

^^
ALL GONE FOR GROG

I had but one old hat,
The hat it had no crown,
All wore out, tore out, and asunder;
If I cannot buy another, I will keep this hat I've got,
I will keep this old hat to remember.

CHORUS:
It's all gone for grog,
Jolly, jolly grog;
All gone for whiskey and tobacco.
Oh, I spent all I had in cash
On those girls to cut a dash;
Now I'm left in this wide world to wander.


I had but one old coat,
The coat it had no back,
All wore out, tore out, and asunder;
If I cannot buy another, I will keep this coat I've got,
I will keep this old coat to remember.
CHORUS

I had but one old shirt,
The shirt it had no sleeves,
All wore out, tore out, and asunder;
If I cannot buy another, I will keep this shirt I've got,
I will keep this old shirt to remember.
CHORUS

I had one pair of pants,
The pants they had no knees,
All wore out, tore out, and asunder;
If I cannot buy another, I will keep this pair I've got,
I will keep these old pants to remember.
CHORUS

I had one pair of boots,
The boots they had no knees,
All wore out, tore out, and asunder;
If I cannot buy another, I will keep this pair I've got,
I will keep these old boots to remember.
CHORUS

From the Sandy & Caroline Paton recording, New Harmony


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Subject: RE: Req/ADD: All for Me Grog / All Gone for Grog
From: GUEST,Lighter at work
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 07:48 AM

Lloyd recorded a version on "English Drinking Songs" back in the '50s. This appears to be the ultimate source of later recorded versions, including I think that of the Clancys.

The song later became bawdier. I first heard the now-popular stanza about "me bed" here in the U.S. in 1982. More recent still is one involving "me wife."


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Subject: ADD: Here's to my Tin
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Sep 07 - 04:10 PM

I came across this in Still Growing: English Traditional Songs and Singers from the Cecil Sharp Collection. I was struck by its similarity to the version Sandy Paton sings.

Here's to my Tin

Here's to my hat, my jolly, jolly hat,
My hat have seen finer weather.
The crown it is torn out and the brims are looking about
And the lining's sticked up for finer weather.

Chorus
Here's to my tin, my jolly, jolly tin,
So I spended all my tin
With young lasses drinking o' gin
And across the briny ocean I must wander.

Here's to my jacket, my jolly, jolly jacket,
My jacket have seen better weather,
The back it is torn out and the sleeves they are weared out
And the collar's sticked up for finer weather.

Here's to my waistcoat, my jolly, jolly waistcoat,
My waistcoat have seen finer weather,
The back it is weared out and the fronts are looking about
And the pockets are sticked up for finer weather.

Here's to my shirt, my jolly, jolly shirt,
My shirt have seen better weather,
The tail it is torn out and the sleeves are looking about
And the collar's sticked up for finer weather.

Here's to my stockings, my jolly, jolly stockings,
My stockings have seen better weather,
The toes they are weared out and the heels are looking about
And the uppers are sticking up for finer weather.

Here's to my shoes, my jolly, jolly shoes,
My shoes have seen better weather,
The bottoms they are weared out and the uppers are looking about
And the tongue's sticked up for finer weather.


Singer: Louie Hooper
England : Somerset : Hambridge
4 April 1904
collected by Cecil Sharp

Click to play


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Subject: RE: Req/ADD: All for Me Grog / All Gone for Grog
From: the button
Date: 06 Sep 07 - 06:27 PM

Just a small correction to the words of The Watersons version. It's

"All for me grog & tabaccer"

Hull & proud. ;-)


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Subject: RE: Req/ADD: All for Me Grog / All Gone for Grog
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 06 Sep 07 - 09:35 PM

G'day the button,

It's interesting ... If you reproduce local accent / 'dialect' phonetically - half your audience lambast you for as a snob. Then you decide to stick to 'standard English" spellings - and let the singers sort out their own rendition ... and, for that, someone else condemns you to Hull (or, at least, Hell or Halifax)!

More broadly, I'm sure the Australian version (various pronounced with a wide range of 'Australian' accents) is clearly descended from a "sailors' version" of the song ... a 'forebitter', rather than a 'shanty'. The version Joe Offer quoted is probably an American version which was picked up in the same way ... and, once on shore lost some of its refrain's note of needing to go back to sea to earn more money before the clothes and hat can be replaced.

Every settler in Australia's colonial era had to get here by sea and it's not surprising that those who travelled steerage would pick up something from the crew. A great number of the songs of sailing vast tracts of the world's oceans transmogrified, here, into songs about crossing vast areas of largely uncharted land ... often driving vast herds of cattle into newly opened grazing lands ... or back to the markets of the coastal cities (where most Australians lived - and, to a greater extend, still do today.

Regards,

Bob (two hours walk from the Pacific Ocean in the east ... and some 4,500 km from the Indian Ocean ... with some of the driest areas in the world in between!)


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Subject: RE: Req/ADD: All for Me Grog / All Gone for Grog
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Sep 07 - 09:59 PM

Well, Bob, I'm sure the Sandy Paton version I posted is probably an American version which was picked up in the same way - but the other version was collected by Sharp in Somerset in 1904. Sandy's tune is nothing like the Sharp tune, or like any other version I've heard.
The chorus in the Sharp version just doesn't sound right. Could he have left out a line, or was it the singer who omitted it?
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Req/ADD: All for Me Grog / All Gone for Grog
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 07 Sep 07 - 09:28 AM

G'day Joe,

You are right. I was paying more attention to the Caroline & Sandy Paton / Kate Koons version ... and not to the remarkable degree of similarity exhibited by the Cecil Sharp / Louie Hooper version.

I suspect that the same process of moving away from the "sailor" version has occurred - that is, instead of a litany of reasons for the sailor to sign on for another voyage ... and earn the wherewithal to buy some decent clothing ... it now becomes a (family?) ritual / play song about each item being worn out. I haven't seen an Australian version that takes that tack.

I also read the Sharp rendition of the chorus as missing a few measures - those normally about "... the beer and tobacco...". Maybe the song's tune had 'morphed' to suit a short (mis-remembered?) chorus. Without the actual tune in front of me ... that's just a wild guess!

Regards,

Bob


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Subject: RE: Req/ADD: All for Me Grog / All Gone for Grog
From: GUEST,CelticWarrior
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 05:58 PM

Wot about The Dubliners version of All For Me Grog?
That groggy voice of Ronnie Drew "singing" it.


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