BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Don Firth
Date: 30 Nov 11 - 04:32 PM

I can't find the post where this was quoted or linked to before, but if you haven't read it, DO!

If you have, it merits reading again.

Where OWS goes from here.

I heard a very interesting discussion this morning on my local NPR affiliate, part of which involved many of the same points that Moore talks about.

The program was locally produced (originating here in Seattle), and included comments by retired Seattle police chief Norman Stamper, who has written a book criticizing the recent federal government encouraged militarization of local police departments. He had some pretty strong things to say about the pepper-spraying incident at UC Davis. The police, he said, were WAY out of line. He also had some very strong things to say about the Seattle incident in which two women, one young pregnant and the other 84 years old, were pepper-sprayed by police.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Nov 11 - 03:40 PM

Occupy Wall Street will continue at least until the 2012 election. But not as it is.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Nov 11 - 03:39 PM

Horse pucky.

It's not capitalism. It is deregulation, its corruption, its deliberate denial of the problems by the regulators. If US Banks, were as regulated as Canadian Banks, the mortgage crisis would not have happened. Not that Canadian banks are paragons of virtue. They are simply required to follow Canadian law.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: akenaton
Date: 30 Nov 11 - 03:30 PM

OWS is over, in the UK anyway, and I suspect in the US as well.
The media have tired of it...yesterdays news.
As I said right at the beginning, the only way change can be effected is to tackle the problem at the roots...it is systemic, there are still too many with a stake in the system, and 100% of us contributed to our current financial situation.

How many of us were involved in property sales? petty tax fiddling,
abuse of public services(UK), Mrs Thatcher and Ronald Reagan made us all capitalists ...and we loved it!
Now capitalism has been exposed and we have not the balls to admit it even to ourselves.

Until we understand the problem....we can never find the answer, OWS is simply a distraction, something to make us feel better about ourselves.....but we are stil guilty.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Nov 11 - 02:58 PM

Trying to keep the subject on OWS, is germane.

I call her "she" because she called me stupid and a number of other things once, years ago, for calling her "he". I would not be at all surprised if she has made similar rants about being called "he." But one has to decide if it is worth ones time to engage at all with someone who would make their own gender a point of contention. After all, even if one wanted to remain completely unidentified, it would be only good manners to pick a gender rather than trying to bully people into saying "him/her" and such. When you do that you submit to her dominance games.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 30 Nov 11 - 02:35 PM

Jack the Sailor),(and 'professor'): "Akenaton. Your last thread has nothing to do with OWS are you trolling too?"


Jack the Sailor(and 'professor'), "Your last thread has nothing to do with OWS are you trolling too?"


Bobert(the assistant professor): " No problem, Ake... There are people whose actions and behaviors are such that they really aren't worth your time..."

Jack the Sailor(and professor): "Your last thread has nothing to do with OWS are you trolling too?"

TIA: "I propose that anyone only respond to positive suggestions from..."

Jack the Sailor(and 'professor'): "Your last thread has nothing to do with OWS are you trolling too?"


Jack, you said it all!!!...now apply it to yourself, as well.....if you can't..stay partisan.

TOPIC: "RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%"

(Hi, Ake!)
Regards,

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Don Firth
Date: 30 Nov 11 - 02:23 PM

I'm sorry, Jack, but this has to be said. Then, no more on the subject of GfS from me. I, too, want to get back to the subject at hand because there is a lot going on and a lot to talk about

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Ake, be fair.

For the past couple of years and over a number of threads, GfS has made a practice of taking the contrarian view, no matter what the subject, to the point where he or she contradicts what they have said in previous threads—and sometimes on different posts on the same thread.

While doing this, GfS is rude and often foul-mouthed (foul-keyboarded?), insulting the intelligence of anyone who disagrees with anything in his/her rambling rants. Anyone who has to use the sort of language GfS uses is verging on the contemptible and is responsible for the degeneration of any kind of political debate these days. He/she refers to Hilary Clinton as "Hitlery" and President Obama as "O-blab-o" and repeated calls him a "liar" and "stupid," WITHOUT saying anything specific about what lies he allegedly told, or examples of his "stupidity" (a one-time lecturer at an Ivy League university and editor of a highly respected law review).

He calls Bobert, me, and others "loony liberals" and other such ill-defined epithets without really knowing anything about our political positions other than that we are not pro-Right Wing. In fact, he/she argues FOR the Right Wing, while at the same time saying that both the Republican and Democratic Parties are corrupt—which IS true, and which Bobert, me, and others have already said repeatedly. GfS has not, at any time, delineated or indicated by implication ANY cohesive political position, or recommended any course of political action that he/she thinks people should follow.

In short, GfS is a blowviator. He/she's on these threads to stir things up, divert the thread from its subject (which he keeps accusing me of doing whenever I challenge something he/she says). GfS is not interested in the subject. ANY subject. His/her whole reason for posting on these threads is primarily to disrupt the discussion, and for ego gratification and self-aggrandizement.

GfS is a TROLL.

Thus I have decided that GfS is a lost cause and I will not waste any more time and verbiage on him/her. And I advise others to do the same.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Nov 11 - 02:01 PM

Akenaton. Your last thread has nothing to do with OWS are you trolling too?

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Nov 11 - 12:57 PM

No problem, Ake... There are people whose actions and behaviors are such that they really aren't worth your time... That is what Jesus was talking about... "Shake the dust off your robe+, i.e. move on...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: akenaton
Date: 30 Nov 11 - 12:16 PM

1...How do any of you know that GfS is a woman.....I have no idea what gender he/she is.

2.... Don, I dont know if you realise this, but you have made a dreadful statement against GfS, in calling him/her a "non person".
You infer that his/her opinions are completely worthless, not worthy of even consideration
You say that I am a bigot for my views, yet I would never dismiss the views of you or any other person as you have done.
If I was a moderator, I would put you off the forum for such an attitude.
To my mind, what you have written is worse that racism, homophobia, or any other form of bigotry.
3...Bob, sorry but I just dont understand the bit about "dust on the robe".....could you please explain? As I think it may have been directed at me.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 30 Nov 11 - 11:32 AM

Was that supposed to be a 'helpful, positive' post?

Don't answer......let's stay on topic, ok?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 11:32 PM

I propose that anyone only respond to positive suggestions from the hero of "lansing" and "Cecil". All else is self-serving "make me the center of attention" bullshit.
Not insightful.
Not helpful.
Not caring.
Just a pathetic attempt to be important.
It is really sad.
IMHO.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 11:20 PM

Melissa, as I posted early on,...the groups, now that they got the public BEGINNING to ask the 'right' questions, now is the time to not rely so much on the gatherings, even though they can help, and hopefully be intelligent and focused, but to the ROOT causes...NOW is the time to find out 'WHY?', 'WHO?' and 'WHAT?'..no matter where the chips fall...and MOVE to have those parties dealt with, in the legal system, and set up guidelines that would prohibit this fraud from continuing.
To promote ANY agenda, but this one, at this time, could be a 'play' into the hands of the architects of it all. Best to ENFORCE the laws we have, and adjust the ones, that are actually loop holes, for the corruption, between the Banksters, Brokers, Politicians, and Lobbyists, or ANY other vampire 'special interests'....including those that were 'instituted' to service the 'special interests'...for ANY other reason than the TRUTH!

As I posted before, its NOT a 'political' problem, it's a MORAL problem!

If you've been reading for a little while on this thread, scroll back and review the posts(stupid snide ones omit!)

the problem a LOT of people are having, is trying to 'FIT' the answers, into political party's 'remedies'....reason is, they can't be trusted! ...reason why....Corruption!...by WHO?..the very people the politicians are reluctant to take action against....WHY?..because they are corrupting each other, and the governmental system itself, to accommodate them!...BOTH PARTIES, no doubt about it. It NEEDS to be cleaned up!!

Scroll back...got good links, as well,that backs up what I've been saying......then, let's talk. Give me your feedback. Try not to be diverted...(you've been doin' great!)

Regards,
GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Melissa
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 10:45 PM

Do the groups seem to be sticking with the same type of gathering now that they've been around a while, or are they sort of branching out and being visible in other ways?

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 10:27 PM

Good!....Now we can move on from how pissed off everybody is, and channeling it to each other, and move to finding the truth.....to find a solution!
While I don't 'fault' one for being a Democrat, Republican, Progressive, Liberal(at least a real one), Tea Partier, OWS, sometimes one must question, whether the 'leadership' of all those groups, are as sincere, as the people who are believing in them....and if not, 'Why?'
From most the evidence, that I've seen, 'No', nor are they trusted, by any other groups, who don't agree with them.
Granted, this is potentially as massive as a problem, as any America has faced, in it's history.....Therefore, SOMEWHERE, there has to be people, anywhere, somewhere...as a group, who may not agree, BUT can come together, hammer it out...get to the truth(no matter how disappointing, the discovery)...and lead the way, into UNITING,....and taking out the support away, from those who are not being honest, and put pressure on those who do, to be straight!

Jeez..Got any remote ideas where to start?...........maybe here? Maybe NOT in the streets that become violent???
Maybe a 'Sane', practical remedy?

The choice is ours?...isn't it?

GfS

P.S. It is now!

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 08:08 PM

More dust on the robe than one...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 07:33 PM

How is taking Akeneton's bait talking about OWS?

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Don Firth
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 07:09 PM

And how is my ignoring a hate-filled, foul-mouthed, self-aggrandizing windbag who adds nothing to the discussion "liberal Fascism," Ake? Explain yourself.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: akenaton
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 06:54 PM

"You're right, Jack. She's here only to disrupt and focus on herself. I don't need the aggrevation. Her insults and goading means nothing to me because I have no respect for her opinion about anything.

So from here on in, GfS doesn't exist."


So George Orwell was right!!   "liberal" Fascism lives!

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 05:49 PM

Jesus said "shake the dust from your robes"...

Ya' don't have to be a Christian to understand that...

GfinS isn't part of this discussion...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 05:20 PM

ows cartoons

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Don Firth
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 04:26 PM

You're right, Jack. She's here only to disrupt and focus on herself. I don't need the aggrevation. Her insults and goading means nothing to me because I have no respect for her opinion about anything.

So from here on in, GfS doesn't exist.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 03:54 PM

Occupy Wilmington, NC is still going pretty strong. A 16 year old young man got arrested yesterday for arguing about the closing of a camp site.

It seems to me that GfS has no clear goals or philosophy other than to disrupt threads about progressive topics. If you must engage her. please take it to another thread. Otherwise she will quickly make the whole thread about her.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Don Firth
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 02:43 PM

It seems that OWS is not in the news quite as much this past week or so, but that's not because it isn't still very much there.

Here in Washington State, the state legislature is meeting in Olympia, the state capitol, to argue over some $2 billion dollars in budget cuts that will cut various services, mostly to those who need them the most. Unions and social service groups are there in force, along with some 3,000 rank-and-file citizen protesters occupying the capitol campus.

Governor Gregoire and the state legislators definitely know they are there! And they vote!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 06:52 AM

I wouldn't, Jack...

I'd rather be talking about OWS... Unfortunately, either there ain't a lot going on now or the BIG MEDIA has OWS back on their blacklist... Maybe a little of both...

No matter... Like I have said before... OWS has accomplished it's main mission in changing the conversation and quieting the right wing noise machine... The American people no longer believe the corporate bullshit that they need all these favors because they are out there creating jobs... How this will play out down the road will be interesting...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 05:44 AM

It seems, sadly, that members would rather bicker with GfS.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Melissa
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 04:01 AM

Is it possible to have a thread on this subject that doesn't choke on ninnyblather?

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 01:36 AM

Stick to the topic.
I don't want to play your games. This thread was going somewhere.

Oh, as far as me backing it up...just scroll down, and look how you three diverted it.

Typical tactics....then they blame me!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Don Firth
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 01:16 AM

I don't have to back it up, GoofuS. Every time you post, you back it up for me.

Thanks!

Don Firth

P. S. Past my bedtime. I'll be back with facts a-plenty tomorrow. Prepare to be buried in them.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 01:00 AM

...but can you back it up??

Never mind..you guys have been exposed, plenty enough.
This thread was getting pretty serious, but you've brought it down to a level of banality.
Keep it!
Too bad...a shame!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Don Firth
Date: 29 Nov 11 - 12:34 AM

How's this for a fact?

You're a nincompoop.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 11:50 PM

Don: "That's almost too good an opening to pass up. . . .
Don Firth"

But, you can't come up with anything relevant or true, or productive...so, you'd rather agitate....for NOTHING!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Don Firth
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 11:32 PM

That's almost too good an opening to pass up. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 11:24 PM

Don: "Not "from" insanity, Bobert. It's still THERE!

Don Firth"

Got a FACT, Don?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Don Firth
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 11:22 PM

Not "from" insanity, Bobert. It's still THERE!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 11:13 PM

You can tell this guy was really a 'Republican'..according to Bobert!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 11:03 PM

Bullshit!....You guys just got caught adopting a 'party line' instead of ANY truth, with supporting facts, to back it up...and you just plain don't like it!
Maybe YOU are the ones who should RE-CONSIDER your trips!..because they're all full of holes.......(among 'other' things').

You got facts??? post them!
You don't??
Just keep hiding and dodging behind stupid slurs, as you have been!
It's pretty obvious now...and at this point!

Got a FACT?...Then POST IT!

I've been supporting, with PRACTICAL things, that which you only have snide 'nothing'!....because you ran out of talking points!
Do some HOMEWORK!
What have I posted that was not true??

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 10:26 PM

Troll feeder.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 10:24 PM

Ain't no suppression here, GfinS...

You have out posted everyone here and given the volume of your posts you have probably posted more words than everyone else combined... Reams and reams of posts... Posts on top of posts...

Reminds me of an old Woody Allen: "Don't go to that restaurant, the food is lousy and portions are small" except in your case it's BIG portions...

You have laid down your markers... You hate the government... You hate Obama... You expose Tea Party positions while trying to look "classless and free", progressive, cool... You ain't none of them things... You expose Republican talking positions couched with as much fake progressive flowers that you think you need to garnish your bullshit stew as to make it (in your mind) edible... It ain't...

You have laid out your markers and they are not progressive... They are not liberal... They are Republican...

No thanks...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 09:45 PM

My, my, my..the three accusers, trying to suppress, the real story, and shove bullshit in it's place.

Why does this not surprise me....or others.....

So, being as this IS a music forum, I thought, 'Why not enlist our three professors into song!

They could call themselves 'BoDoJac'...and take it out on the road!

So here they are Ladies and Gentlemen, the swingin' sounds of "BoDoJac "

t matters NOT if you actually learn something from them....just so long as they are 'professors'!..(a legend in their own wine)!

GfS

P.S. BTW, notice how they are unable to comment, intelligently, on some posts that were pretty heavy?..Out of their depth!..and into the 'snide'!

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 09:03 PM

The problem is not with the troll. It is the troll feeders.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 08:34 PM

Well qualified, Don...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Don Firth
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 08:31 PM

In the same way that it flamed out as a family counselor some threads back, it hasn't been able to cut it as a political analyst (or should that be anal-ist?) either.

Considering the level of abilities and talents it has displayed so far, I think I know of a job it might have enough smarts to handle reasonably well:

Attaching the strings to tea bags.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 07:45 PM

Yes, brucie, it does...

The noise machine thinks that it can drown out the real story...

Normal...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,999
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 07:21 PM

OWS deserves more respect than this, imo.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 12:35 AM

Bobert: "Oh really, GfinS???

Just a day or so after Rick Perry attacks the Feds you jump right in...

Tea Party mythology..."


OH YEAH????????


From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 28 Aug 11 - 04:16 AM

The lunatic fringe are singin' to their choir again!
Who gives a hooting rat's ass about the Tea party?!? If you spent half the time doing your homework, about what is really going on, instead of throwing mud on everybody else, you'd soon find out that the Democratic Party, as the Republican Party is just as fucked up as the Tea Party!!..Not only that, you might even find out why!!
So pat yourselves on the back, whip up some enthusiasm, encourage each other more, to hate, slander, slur and curse everybody who isn't agreeing with you....but nobody hears you...unless you fart, and the words you said, form a gas bubble..and squeeze out by your neck!
Obama has to be the biggest disappointment, the Democrats have ever deluded themselves with!
Get over it!

AND:

From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 10 Aug 11 - 05:37 AM


"So when you hear the debate about 'raising the debt ceiling' that issue is merely widening our ability to afford more borrowing, for..you guessed it again, feeding these bastards! I hold suspect ANY politician, and news media outlet, who are under the control, of the IMF(Tim Geitner, and therefore, Obama), along with international banking organizations, and their ilk. Watch for the rise of Rick Perry for President. He's the one they are backing, this time around. Watch his 'meteoric' rise in news coverage, for name recognition. When you see it, note the tactics. Note the groundswell...."

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Me??? Living in the past???? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...just Sane.
Two EXACT calls BEFORE it happened......yeah, I guess MY thinking is fucked up, huh?

Pardon me if I continue NOT adopting YOUR mindset!!!
Actually, Don, YOU ARE the one who could "learn something"

GfS

P.S. Lucky guesses???.....I wonder how GfS does it!

GfS

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BOBERT: "Just a day or so after Rick Perry attacks the Feds you jump right in..."

WRONG AGAIN, OL' CHAP!!

BTW, as I was looking for those past posts, I noticed A LOT of posts citing the 'Fed', and denouncing Perry, as one of their(the bankers) puppets. You should take a little stroll through some past posts....and THEN see who has been consistent, AND BEFORE the OWS, or BEFORE Perry..OR BEFORE the Tea Party!

jezz....wasting a lot of time awaiting the 'news' to 'catch up'....and yet, you STILL ignore what I've been ACCURATELY telling you!
How come the Democrats (or Republicans) have been so INACCURATE?????
Ever wonder what they are hiding, and working around?????

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Nov 11 - 11:27 PM

BTW, should the US ever be able to manipulate it's currency as a mean to make it more competitive??? Or should we just sit on our hands and go "Gee wizz, we lost"???

Like the Fed or not it is the US's tool to compete, GfinS...

A "War and Peace" length post on your part won't change that...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Nov 11 - 11:15 PM

Oh really, GfinS???

Just a day or so after Rick Perry attacks the Feds you jump right in...

Tea Party mythology...

You need to figure out what your core values are... You are all over the place...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Nov 11 - 10:52 PM

Bobert: "Nay-Sayers = Republicans..."


'Bobert, Nay-Sayers = Republicans...' is Nay-Saying.

We are bigger, than that.....and that 'bigness' lives in a LOT of people, just waiting to have some of the dots connected...and they'll be connecting their own, before long.....but it may be PEOPLE representing people, instead of parties pretending to represent people!

GfS

P.S. Just imagine............................if The 'Mudcat' Forum, was more accurate.....than the corporate 'news' INDUSTRY!
Just a thought.....................

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Nov 11 - 10:45 PM

Flirt???? Nope....but a little satirical dry humor....
Tea Party????...Nope, but like I posted earlier....ALL of the parties or 'splinter groups' have a bit of the truth. The problem is, the controllers, at the top, are 'working it', for their 'solution'....OH, and BTW, the 'controllers at the top', are ALL 1%ers. Go figure who's zooming who....and a LOT of factions, of all parties have bought into it. As long as the 'OWS' crowd, has opened the topic, 'seizing the moment', would be a GREAT opening...but NOT to argue party politics....because the root causes, are bigger, than the individual parties, 'solutions', or complaints.

And TIA, you've read enough of my posts, to know that any similarity between what I've been saying, and the Tea Party, or Progressives, or Democrat, or Republican, or OWS is because, EACH of those group's concerns, are rooted into part of the truth...ALL of them have spun them to one degree or another, depending on which1%er is backing them, and their agenda....for profit, or political position.....and playing to their audience.
Consider it, without bias...it fits, and works.

Thanks for the Flowers, though..

GfS