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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: akenaton Date: 17 Jun 12 - 06:34 PM The only way that real change can be effected, is in the manner suggested bt Little Hawk and GfS. Live your lives in the best and kindest manner possible, stop looking for short term answers to long term problems, understand that no political party has any interest in you or your neighbours personally, but views you as a series of numbers on election cards. Understand that the US and the UK are deeply conservative nations, based on a history of bullying and exploitation and to change these societies it is is imperative to unite with the social conservatives whom you believe are your enemies. This divisive system is your enemy,it and its leaders are powerless against unity......its "fifth columb" are the vicious little worker bees we see on these pages agitating for their party of choice. They love this system with its wars, exploitation and greed, yet pretend that their small voices can produce change.....they dont really want change, they want one small victory! |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: akenaton Date: 17 Jun 12 - 06:40 PM Be suspicious of everything said or done by the government! |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: GUEST,999 Date: 17 Jun 12 - 06:48 PM Well said, Ake. Did you ever get the message I sent via Mudcat? |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: akenaton Date: 17 Jun 12 - 07:04 PM My good friend.....I have just opened your PM...thank you. I had intended to leave it until I felt able to explain my personal circumstances properly...I owe you a large apology for taking so long. I will pm tomorrow at some point ....I value your friendship and kindness very much.....A. |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 17 Jun 12 - 09:07 PM Thank you, Akenaton, for your kind words.....Love, has no political party....just participants! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Bobert Date: 17 Jun 12 - 09:31 PM Hate certainly has found a home in the Republican Party... They hate the working man... They hate teachers... They hate science... They hate black people... They hate women... They hate gays... Now Ake, LH and GfinS can continue on with their little Woodstock love fest... BTW, 6 words: "And then they came for me"... Ya'll are blinder than the blindest of the blind... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 17 Jun 12 - 11:22 PM Bobbins: "Hate certainly has found a home in the Republican Party... They hate the working man... They hate teachers... They hate science... They hate black people... They hate women... They hate gays..." Don't you just hate those Republicans?????? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Sawzaw Date: 18 Jun 12 - 09:11 AM Hate Hate Hate. That is all Bobert thinks about. He projects this hatred onto others that he hates. |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Bobert Date: 18 Jun 12 - 10:23 AM No, GfinS... I don't hate anyone... I do, however, hate their policies, their lies, their corruption, their cheating, etc., etc... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Sawzaw Date: 18 Jun 12 - 10:40 AM Does Bobert hate Democrats' policies, their lies, their corruption, their cheating, etc., etc.. Or is it a one way street for Bobert? |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: GUEST,999 Date: 18 Jun 12 - 10:41 AM Jesus Christ, Mary and Joseph. Some of you folks gotta learn to speak your minds. Hate? You are fucking right I hate some people. I would like to see half your damned congress put in jail until they face trial. |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: GUEST,999 Date: 18 Jun 12 - 10:41 AM On second thought, forget the trial. |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Bobert Date: 18 Jun 12 - 10:48 AM Don't be like that, brucie... Hate the sin, not the sinner... Hating people ain't good for yer tummy or soul... Yeah, 1/2 of Congress needs to be on trial but the problem is that the they have re-written laws that allow them to cheat Americans and cheat their way into office... But leave the people hating to the people-hating side... That ain't us... Remember what Jesus said... "Shake the dust off your robe"... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: GUEST,999 Date: 18 Jun 12 - 11:01 AM Sorry, Bobert. I feel nothing BUT hatred for politicians who send kids to war, rape this world, keep people poor. I'd like to see then in jail because execution by axe is too damned good for 'em. I feel the same about Wall Street, multinationals and banks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Bobert Date: 18 Jun 12 - 11:18 AM I'd like to see them in jail, too... We agree on that... But, like I said, no matter how hateful their behavior is it is the behavior that we hate... But, yes... By all means. throw them in jail... But their big donors/masters in there with them... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: GUEST,999 Date: 18 Jun 12 - 11:22 AM I ain't suggesting that you should hate them, Bobert. Just saying that I do. |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Bobert Date: 18 Jun 12 - 12:36 PM Well, I *am* suggesting that you don't hate them, brucie, but I come from the Martin Luther King School of Non-violence... Just they stuff we had preached into us in the 60s in the Movement... Not everyone bought into it... I did... I kinda of think that if someone's behavior is so evil that I can hate that person then I give that person power that is not earned... But that's me... Lotta my Movement allies in the 60's didn't see it that way... I'm okay with that but it won't stop me from trying to get others to see it as Dr. King did... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Sawzaw Date: 19 Jun 12 - 09:55 AM "I feel nothing BUT hatred for politicians who send kids to war" Obama: "This is not a war of choice. This is a war of necessity. Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again. If left unchecked, the Taliban insurgency will mean an even larger safe haven from which Al Qaeda would plot to kill more Americans." |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Songwronger Date: 19 Jun 12 - 06:59 PM Who changed the title of my thread? Added "prediction only." I've been locked out the past couple of visits here. Changed the thread, locked me out. Too much bullshit to respond to. Firth starts the shoveling with some ignorance of world affairs. This is for him: Deadly Drone Strike on Muslims in the Southern Philippines Early last month, Tausug villagers on the Southern Philippine island of Jolo heard a buzzing sound not heard before. It is a sound familiar to the people of Waziristan who live along Pakistan's border with Afghanistan, where the United States fights the Taliban. It was the dreaded drone, which arrives from distant and unknown destinations to cause death and destruction. Within minutes, 15 people lay dead and a community plunged into despair, fear and mourning. The U.S. drone strike, targeting accused leaders in the Abu Sayyaf and Jemaah Islamiyah organisations, marked the first time the weapon has been used in Southeast Asia. The drone has so far been used against Muslim groups and the Tausug are the latest on the list. Just as in Pakistan and other theatres of the "war on terror", the strike has provoked controversy, with a Filipino lawmaker condemning the attack as a violation of national sovereignty. This controversy could increase with the recent American announcement that it plans to boost its drone fleet in the Philippines by 30 per cent. The U.S. already has hundreds of troops stationed on Jolo Island, but until now, the Americans have maintained a non-combat "advisory" role. The expansion of U.S.' drone war has the potential to further enflame a volatile conflict involving the southern Muslim areas and Manila, which has killed around 120,000 people over the past four decades. To understand what is happening in the Philippines and the U.S.' role in the conflict, we need to look at the Tausug, among the most populous and dominant of the 13 groups of Muslims in the South Philippines known as "Moro", a pejorative name given by Spanish colonisers centuries ago.... http://www.brookings.edu/research/opinions/2012/03/05-drones-philippines-ahmed And so on. Anyway, Everyone Fucking Hates Obama. The Nobel Peace Prize winning mass murderer. He will be replaced by his corporate twin Romney unless the vote can be rigged. The Obamanoids will immediately go to work to "win back" the white house. |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Ebbie Date: 19 Jun 12 - 07:36 PM Personally, I am glad for whoever added 'prediction only' to the title. We do NOT have a President Romney. |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 19 Jun 12 - 07:48 PM ""It was the dreaded drone, which arrives from distant and unknown destinations to cause death and destruction."" You cannot arrive from a destination. It is a place to which you go, and at which you arrive. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Bobert Date: 19 Jun 12 - 08:41 PM Seems that the Obama haters can't stick to any topic... You could start almost any thread involving politics and it always comes down to attacks that have nothing to do with the topic... Didn't I start a "clearing house" thread for the haters to carry on their little Klan rallies??? Prediction: Citizen Coward's United will steal democracy again... Just like in 2000... Who paid for the goons who intimidated poll workers trying to recount... Who stopped the recount just hours before Gore would have more than likely passed Bush in votes??? Losers: The American people... Dupes... Vote against their own interests and the interests of the country... Dupe losers... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Sawzaw Date: 19 Jun 12 - 09:20 PM Nobel Peace Prize winner Obama's Kill Lists AKA Dronegate: What is wrong with the President sitting in a room, looking at lists and portraits of people -- a Somali man, a seventeen-year-old girl, an American citizen -- and deciding whom to kill? That, according to long and troubling articles in both the Times and Newsweek, is a job Barack Obama has assigned himself. |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Bobert Date: 19 Jun 12 - 09:53 PM Drones??? Yup, just send in our kids to get shot the heck up and sent home in boxes... That's the American way... (((((((((((((((((((((((((spit)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) No, quit waring... It can be done... The military industrialists made a joke of the Department of Peace because they depend on their share of our GNP... Ike was right... Drones are tactics... Not strategies... War college teaches that kinda stuff... It's like when the long bow was developed... Should it have not been used because it gave the folks who had them an advantage??? The weapons aren't the "gates"... The weapons aren't the problem... The wars are... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jun 12 - 01:03 AM Bobbins: "Ike was right..." "Technology will never replace the spirit of a fighting man." Dwight D. Eisenhower GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: DougR Date: 20 Jun 12 - 04:19 PM It's nice to know that some things never change. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: pdq Date: 20 Jun 12 - 04:57 PM Nice to see DougR post again. He's Mudcat's Official Gentleman. Must be playing with the computer because it's too hot in Phoenix to go outside. 112o F in Phoenix today, 114o F tomorrow. |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Bobert Date: 20 Jun 12 - 05:24 PM Hey, Dougie!!! Long time, no hear... You okay??? You need to spend more time here and teach the current crop of righties how to treat people... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Greg F. Date: 20 Jun 12 - 05:42 PM He's Mudcat's Official Gentleman. If the definition of a gentleman is someone that swallows and propogates all the sh*t that Rush Limbaugh, Faux News, and the TeaPublican propagandists vomit forth, that is. |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jun 12 - 06:38 PM I believe a gentleman would not need to be told how to think or behave. Those are merely conscription invitations. ...in other words, join us other rats at the stern of the Titanic! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Don Firth Date: 20 Jun 12 - 08:34 PM I may not agree with Doug R.'s political viewpoints, but he has NEVER been personally offensive or deliverately insulting to anyone. William F. Buckley was a strong conservative, but he, like Doug, was a gentleman. I used to read him, even when I didn't agree with what he said. Had he called people "loony liberals" or "brain-washed morons," or used some of the childish and offensive verbiage that some of the more recent crop of Right Wingers infesting Mudcat do regularly(especially the ones who won't even fess up to being as Right Wing as their posts scream they are), I would not have bothered to read him at all. A lesson there, guys! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 21 Jun 12 - 01:43 AM Well, Don, I use all sorts of language on here, good bad, vulgar..even throw in some typos, for all those who read 'typonese'....and most the time, you DON'T agree with me on certain issues...but the difference is, I'm NOT a 'right winger'..(even though to you guys EVERYTHING is to the 'right')...BUT, I have a well established track record of being accurate...even before the 'news' breaks about it..SO, does that count?? Shit, I'll even talk to you guys!..How polite can a guy get????? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: akenaton Date: 21 Jun 12 - 02:56 AM Bob.....I'm really surprised that you feel able to support "drone warfare". We are not "at war" with Pakistan. Does morality not come into this issue? If we do not feel part of the pain that accompanies "war"....then it shall never cease. Like the tactics used in Vietnam, this will prove to be addictive, and make final defeat inevitable. It is of course, simply a sophisticated form of terrorism. |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Amos Date: 21 Jun 12 - 02:26 PM It is not wise to hate your enemies, but it is wise to disable them from harming you before you forgive them. It is even wiser not to have enemies, and we have (we being the United States and its CIA network) done an awful lot of dedicated enemy-sowing over the decades since Bill Donovan's days. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Greg F. Date: 21 Jun 12 - 03:47 PM I may not agree with Doug R.'s political viewpoints, but he has NEVER been personally offensive or deliverately insulting to anyone Your memory is faulty, review his history of postings - and Hitler loved and was nice to dogs. |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Bobert Date: 21 Jun 12 - 08:28 PM Yo, Ake... A C-5A full of dead 20 year old kids or a drone... You pick... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 21 Jun 12 - 11:51 PM All those in favor of drones because it takes out the enemies, raise your hands. All those in favor of napalm because it takes out the enemies, raise your hands. All in favor of another way, raise yours. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: akenaton Date: 22 Jun 12 - 03:20 AM Unfair to throw that at me Bob, we all know there are other ways to co-exist. I dont differentiate between a houseful of minced Pakistani children, or dead US/UK soldiers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 22 Jun 12 - 06:11 AM Bobert: "A C-5A full of dead 20 year old kids or a drone..." Maybe neither should be there. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Bobert Date: 22 Jun 12 - 07:01 PM Well, yeah, GfinS... I've said that over and over and over and over... Might of fact, the very first thread I stared here in the Mudpit was about Dennis Kucinich's legislation to create a Department of Peace... That was before Iraq... My problem is with folks who have 19th century ideas about how war is conducted... They have watched too many old war movies of thousands of people charging at another group of thousands of people and lots of people dieing... Like Antietam, Gettysburg or Normandy... If we ***have*** to fight then I believe that fighting smarter is smarter than fighting harder... I have not hear one single logical argument about the use of drones over waves of people in battle... Not one... Yes, war sucks... What does that have to do with it??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Little Hawk Date: 22 Jun 12 - 08:42 PM We don't ***have*** to fight (on other people's lands). The only true enemy we have is right here at home. I'd be opposed to these foreign so-called "pre-emptive" wars regardless of whether we were fighting them with swords, bayonets, jet planes, drones or any other method that's been tried so far. The USA and UK governments pretend to be engaging in "defence" when they launch their wars of choice in the Middle East. That's not true. They are engaging in attack...outright pre-planned aggression, planned some considerable time before the first shots were fired, planned BEFORE 911....invasion of other people's lands...forcible regime change of other nations...strictly for the sake of USA and UK imperial objectives. *** But...The thing that troubles me about using drones and similar automated devices for either war or internal security is this: you can't talk to a drone. You can't negotiate with it. You can't reason with it. You can't surrender to it or even discuss anything with it. It isn't human. It has no empathy, compassion or moral sense, anymore than a bullet does. It has no pity. It doesn't even know what it's doing. It exists only to kill and it has no conscience. There is no hope of any mercy or any understanding in a machine. Get that? Do you really want the equivalent of Terminator II movie hardware enforcing "order" in the world you live in? How would you feel if a flying military drone had you in its crosshairs, maybe by mistake even!, and there was not a soul in the world you could negotiate with about the situation, Bobert? Most soldiers are capable of developing some respect for their human adversaries, because they too are human. Machines aren't. When you remove the human moral sense from the equation, you have essentially removed all hope from the equation as far as I can see. Welcome to the end of life and liberty as we once knew it. There have been some famous prophetic books written in the 20th century about totalitarian regimes that would do stuff like this. I think you know the ones I mean. They'd rather use a machine to kill you, because it ALWAYS obeys the order, no matter what, no matter how insane the order, and it "kills without pain like a dog on a chain". People just aren't that dependable. Sometimes they will refuse to obey a criminal order from a totalitarian master. Another point. If the drafted sons and daughters of a public have to serve and die in a war...then it's much harder to get that public onside to support a dishonest and criminal war effort. If you can do it with automated machines and hired mercenaries instead, which is more and more what's happening now on the part of the USA, you have effectively isolated most of the American public from the direct results of war.......thus getting their tacit consent. They'll put up with 500,000 nameless Iraqis or Afghans or Iranians invisibly dying, because it's not happening within their own family or community...but they'd never put up with 20,000 of their own sons and fathers and daughters dying over there! See? Clever, isn't it? They've been really busy lately privatizing and automating their wars, because that's the easiest way to stifle a strong domestic antiwar movement which was what really brought an end finally to the Vietnam War. Of course...we had a more or less free press then too. They hadn't been "embedded" yet. There's only a few tattered shreds left of any free press around now...on mainstream media. |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 22 Jun 12 - 09:58 PM Little Hawk: "Most soldiers are capable of developing some respect for their human adversaries, because they too are human. Machines aren't. When you remove the human moral sense from the equation, you have essentially removed all hope from the equation as far as I can see. Welcome to the end of life and liberty as we once knew it." When they use the argument, just as you framed it, and others argue in favor of weapons that are 'safe' to the aggressor, what separates that argument for machines, and chemical or biologicals? The first conflict to win, is in the hearts and minds of the people....NOT to an ideology or partisan way of thinking, but the recognition that we are all humans, and therefore ONE, that is before we turn over our thought processes to the thoughts and wishes of someone else....and why some are in favor of drones, chemicals, newer faster death tools, is because some have allowed others to do their programming into them....and therefore killing, as Little Hawk says, "Most soldiers are capable of developing some respect for their human adversaries, because they too are human."....The more people lose their respect for other humans, the more war seems like a plausible tool to achieve your goals. A truly defensive war may be a bit different...but we haven't had one of those in a long time...and now, people are thinking they are going to have to be defensive, toward our own government....ANY CLUES ANYONE???? Somebody has gotten 'out of hand'...and got you to cheer them on, for one stupid reason or another. Not look how far we've come, but how far we lost touch. Rethink all this...rethink what we say, and why...and who told you to nurture fear, loathing and discontent....the same people who control the need to make a working livelihood...SAME PEOPLE...the same people that get us to divert the dialogue AWAY from them, and onto us, each other. The 'people' don't want to wage war, not on each other, here or domestically...but then why are we afraid? Who told you to be afraid?? Who told you WHO to be afraid of?....when, if you were clear of any fear, or aggression toward your fellow humans because of peace in you, you probably won't project your hostilities into 'them'. The divisions and hate, fear and desperation, toward your fellow neighbor must NOT be entertained nor nurtured. Remember the saying, "Suppose they threw a war, and nobody came"...how much power, would those people have who needs you, and me, to encourage divisions, hostilities and war upon each other??....NONE!....Then we would not have to fear them....but then, they couldn't control us either!!! God Bless You Little Hawk! Highest Regards!!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Bobert Date: 22 Jun 12 - 10:26 PM Yeah, GfinS... I do... If yer in a war, use yer best weapons... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: GUEST,999 Date: 22 Jun 12 - 10:39 PM Why is the USA in so many wars? |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 23 Jun 12 - 09:04 AM The same reason Hertz, National and Avis cars have so many miles on them! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 23 Jun 12 - 10:52 PM ""You can't negotiate with it. You can't reason with it. You can't surrender to it or even discuss anything with it. It isn't human. It has no empathy, compassion or moral sense, anymore than a bullet does. It has no pity. It doesn't even know what it's doing. It exists only to kill and it has no conscience. There is no hope of any mercy or any understanding in a machine."" All very neatly expressed LH, and with the exception of just a couple of words it is a neat, complete, and succinct description of those terrorists which the drones are seeking out and killing. I don't like the idea any more than you do, but when you can't put boots on the ground a drone is often the only alternative. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Naemanson Date: 24 Jun 12 - 12:18 AM From my Guam thread: Throughout the trip one theme kept running through my mind. This is the America the Republicans would build! There is nothing for the people. When children beg in the streets, when there is no police presence controlling the flow of traffic or protecting the people, when an ambulances sit tied up in traffic with the lights flashing and siren blasting only to get edged out by someone who HAS to get ahead, when there are people wandering in and out of traffic trying to sell whatever they can, when businesses (including restaurants) have to hire security guards to manage customers and banks keep their doors locked by armed guards inside and out, when you can drive from beggars to shopping mall in five minutes assuming the traffic in front of the yacht club doesn't slow you down, then you will know that the Republicans have had their way. There is no oversight of cleanliness of restaurants, no control of traffic, the sidewalks are not safe and nobody does anything about it despite crowds of people using them, there is no system to move from one side of the city to the other quickly, i.e., no highways or other limited access transportation routes, and so much more. That is when you know that the conservatives are glorying in the running of the country into the ground. And some of you might say we already have it in the USA. I don't know. It's been a while since I was in an American city. Maybe we are already there. I know there are areas like this in most cities in the USA. I know that there are plenty of examples of what I've listed above to be found in New York, Washington, Los Angeles, etc. I think the difference is in the scope. In Manila it is everywhere. There were housing units (the name gives them way too much dignity for what they look like) that look like piles of broken boxes leaning over the filthy slime that fills the river flowing through the neighborhoods. You know the river is bad because you don't see any children playing in it. Or that might be because they are out begging in the streets. This is the America of Mitt Romney and his compatriots. (There is one exception to the comparison with America. The streets are dirty but there is no trash! Everywhere you look you see people with brooms keeping the litter under control. Too bad they cannot emigrate to the USA and teach us something about this.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Bobert Date: 24 Jun 12 - 08:04 AM ***********************Attention all Obama Haters*********************** *****Obama didn't start either of the two wars that he inherited***** ______________________________The End___________________________________ Ya'll seem to want to make this discussion about war and not weapons... Romney's position on Iran is 100 times more threatening than Obama's... His "cowboy" foreign policy attitudes (American exceptionalism) is reminiscent of George W... This is how wars get started folks... One side goes, "Woof, woof" and the other goes "Woof, woof" and then next thing ya' know women and children are getting bombed and CA-5s are landing at Dover Air Force Base with out dead kids... So, please... If you are for that then just say, "I love war"... I can respect that position... I hate war myself and think we should take a mere 5% of the Pentagon's budget and create a Department of Peace.... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: GUEST,999 Date: 24 Jun 12 - 10:15 AM You won't care for drones all that much when you are the target. You have just advocated for total war, Bobert. Instead of sending American/Canadian/UK/French/etc kids, let's just send bombs instead. Smart bombs--drones: same thing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: President Romney (prediction only) From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 24 Jun 12 - 11:37 AM ""You won't care for drones all that much when you are the target."" Why would anybody want to target a seventy one year old folkie? As I understand it these drones are quite specifically targetted and we have only the hearsay evidence of unidentified and non accredited sources for any innocents killed. I've said many times that the proper sphere of action of any armed forces should be on the borders of their own country.....in an ideal world. We don't, apparently, live in that world, and when we are dealing with external threat from terrorists, it is probably better to lose machines rather than young men, wouldn't you say? These characters despise us for our squeamish attitude to killing. They regard it as our major weakness and exploit it ruthlessly and without a second thought for the innocence of their victims. The drones have made it possible for the first time to fight them without one hand tied behind our backs. Don T. |
