BS: Celebrity endorsements

Subject: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 09:23 AM

In separate statements, world-famous director Clint Eastwood and internationally beloved porn star Jenna Jameson have both endorsed Mitt Romney as the next President of the United States. Clint played "Dirty Harry," and Jenna markets porn-moan ringtones for your phone.

Eva Longoria, "Sexiest Woman of 2008," is backing Obama. So is Adam Baldwin, the friendly "Mr. Conductor" at Shining Time Station.

Question: Why should we care who entertainment celebs endorse?

Better question: Why do they want us to?

Best: Do we go with the candidate picked by our favorite celeb, or the candidate who's garnered the most celebs?

Suggestion: If voting in presidential elections could be restricted to entertainment celebrities over the age of 18, making at least $250,000 in the prior year, votes could be counted more quickly, and network TV broadcasts wouldn't have to be interrupted for boring Election Night Coverage.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: Greg F.
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 10:17 AM

Why should we care who entertainment celebs endorse?

We shouldn't other than as a point of interest, and as an expression of their personal opinion.

Why do they want us to?

Who says they do?

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 10:49 AM

Somebody does. Otherwise it wouldn't be in the news.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 11:03 AM

"Why should we care who entertainment celebs endorse?"

When I was entering my impressionable teenage years back in the early 70's
countless pop culture celebrities endorsed promiscuous sex , booze, drugs, and rock 'n' roll....


so I would hope by now I've learnt enough to mistrust the judgement of celebrities by now...........?????????

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 12:47 PM

"Why should we care who entertainment celebs endorse?"

The question is better phrased as "Why should I give a rat's ass who ANYBODY endorses?"

I'll study 'em and make up my own mind, thank you. Right now I'm kinda leanin' to my own candidacy -- the only honest candidate, because I admit that I'm only in it for the money.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: Newport Boy
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 01:36 PM

Of course, you could always do what the media here have begun to persuade us - elect the celebrity. Boris for our next PM!

BTW, I like the urban dictionary's derivation of Politics: from poly meaning "many" and tics meaning "blood-sucking parasites".

Phil

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 01:38 PM

Boris does have some political experience doesn't he?

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: GUEST,999
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 02:41 PM

'[Jenna] Jameson was a political liberal and during an interview with Allison Kugel on May 17, 2007, revealed that she supported New York Senator Hillary Clinton's bid for presidency.[109][110] Jameson endorsed Mitt Romney to CBS News on August 2, 2012, stating, "I'm very looking forward to a Republican being back in office. When you're rich, you want a Republican in office."'

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: Elmore
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 04:33 PM

999: That makes no sense. For every celebrity who supports the Republicans, I could name 10 who supports the Democrats, but that would be severely boring.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: GUEST,999
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 04:40 PM

Elmore: I posted that because she said "I'm very looking forward to a Republican being back in office. When you're rich, you want a Republican in office."'

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 04:52 PM

That Jenna! *She's* no phony.

Same with Clint. He says Romney will "restore a decent tax system."

I know what that means.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: GUEST,999
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 05:15 PM

Ditto that, Lighter.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 05:45 PM

A couple of million doesn't go as far it used to, you know, especially since interest rates are down...

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: GUEST,999
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 05:54 PM

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: pdq
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 06:07 PM

I had to look up Adam Baldwin. He is not related to Alec Baldwin and hence has a good chance of being sane.

He is a family man with a wife and three kids and has a libertarian streak.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 06:12 PM

Oops! I meant "Alec Baldwin," of course. The friendly "Mr. Conductor" and cell phone miscreant.

That's what happens when you type without enough Sunday morning joe.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 06:13 PM

""Of course, you could always do what the media here have begun to persuade us - elect the celebrity. Boris for our next PM!""

They already tried that disastrous idea in the US, and got Ronald Reagan for a Pres.

That's like Boris on steroids!

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 06:34 PM

Alec Baldwin is an endorser of Democrats, famous for his acting.

Stephen Baldwin is a former actor, famous for being a brother of Alec who is a now celebrity for endorsing Republicans.

Would Jenna Jameson be in the news now had she not endorsed Romney?
Would anyone have even noticed her among the crowd endorsing Obama.

Clint is a little different. He's been a Republican for years. He's beem elected Mayor as Carmel, CA as a Republican.   It would be news for him to support a Democrat. As it was big news, but not totally unexpected when Colin Powell endorsed Barack Obama in 2008. Certainly Mr. Powell was a meaningful endorsement. Jenna Jameson? It is hard to see how she could do Gov Romney any good.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: pdq
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 08:05 PM

It may surprise people, but Clint Eastwood is trained in music theory, was a jazz pianist at one time ('till he needed money) and has been on the board of directors of the Monterey Jazz Fesitival for decades.

He is also a lifetime civil rights activist, strongly supports the right to abortion, he is a huge conservationist, and has opposed all our wars since WWII. However, I believe he supprted stopping Fidel from building a full military landing strip and airport in Granada.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 10:22 PM

nice arms

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 10:23 PM

wrong thread

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: Ebbie
Date: 06 Aug 12 - 12:47 AM

Speaking of the woman with the 'nice arms, that's no kid. Who is she?

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Aug 12 - 02:26 AM

Stacy Dragila.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: Elmore
Date: 06 Aug 12 - 08:18 PM

999: Gotcha now. misconscrewed what the porn star said.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Aug 12 - 09:30 PM

Stacy Dragila both went to and taught at the University here.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Aug 12 - 11:08 PM

We're cool, Elmore. Not to worry. Thanks.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 07 Aug 12 - 07:24 AM

The question I would ask is, "Why would a celebrity who wishes to appeal to a broad audience want to risk alienating part of that audience by endorsing a particular candidate?" It's one thing when a celebrity's reputation is based upon a particular set of social/political values (Michael Moore doesn't care if he alienates conservatives because they don't watch his films.), but another if one's art is politically neutral. There are probably a fair number of Obama supporters who will take a pass on Mr. Eastwood's next film because of his endorsement of Romney.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: GUEST,999
Date: 07 Aug 12 - 08:29 AM

"There are probably a fair number of Obama supporters who will take a pass on Mr. Eastwood's next film because of his endorsement of Romney."

There are probably a fair number who will SAY they'll skip Clint's next movie. IMO, few people do a damned thing that inconveniences themselves in the slightest.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Aug 12 - 11:30 AM

Clint gets a pass he's old. He plays jazz. He is socially liberal.

I think its the Stephen Baldwins of the biz we have to look at. The lack of movie deals came before the Republicanism. That is the usual pattern.

Note that George Clooney is as big a star as he has ever been.

Some Hollywood "conservative" people claim they are afraid to express right wing views or else their movies won't get made. But there seems to be a relationship between right wing views and lack of acting talent. And don't say that Clint Eastwood was a good actor. He just wasn't.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 07 Aug 12 - 12:03 PM

Right on JtS.

The terms "Film Star" and "Actor" never have been, are not now, and never will be synonymous.

Some actors may be film stars, some film stars may be actors. Clint Eastwood is simply a film star.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Aug 12 - 12:06 PM

Yeah, He was good at looking good with a large 6 shooter in his hand but he was no Jimmy Stewart.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 07 Aug 12 - 12:09 PM

But Eastwood *is* a much better director than he was an actor.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Aug 12 - 12:10 PM

"Close friends with President Ronald Reagan and First Lady Nancy Reagan, the late actor Jimmy Stewart espoused his Republican views in a scripted debate with Democrat Henry Fonda in the 1970 western comedy "The Cheyenne Social Club:""


http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2012/01/republican-jimmy-stewart-vs-democrat-henry-fonda.html

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: number 6
Date: 07 Aug 12 - 12:46 PM

The Republican's have Clint Eastwood

The Democrats have Barbara Streisand

yaddaa .... yaddaa ... yaddaa

*yawn*

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Aug 12 - 01:01 PM

The Republican Party was a lot more moderate then Bruce. Obama's economic policies are a lot more like Reagan's than Romney's are.

Almost all of the country has moved to the right. But the GOP is in some sort of "the debt gets paid off without revenue" fantasy land.

Subject: RE: BS: Celebrity endorsements
From: GUEST,another guest
Date: 08 Aug 12 - 09:01 AM

And all of them were Far more to the left, than John F Kennedy!!!!

Is there a silly point somebody is attempting to make??