BS: The NSA Scandal/Snowden

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST,Henry Krinkle aka Niggardly Bastard
Date: 22 Jun 13 - 05:01 AM

Love is so exciting.
=(:-( x)

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Jun 13 - 05:01 AM

I know they don't have a problem with me..they know, I'm telling the truth and the way it is.....so what?....I'm a musician, not a political nutcase, like some of the...well,...no...we won't go there...my job is to capture the angst and mood, and speak to it through music....Think of it as a photo journalists, but instead of cameras and pictures, I use sounds and notes....and they don't even have lyrics. I came on this thread, at the referral of a violinist/fiddler I know, and who sometimes does stuff like this, sometimes...so I came on...and lo and behold, lot's of people were talkin' politics...so, I jump in..and of course, find out that most the people talking politics, are EXACTLY like the people they were PROTESTING, when THEY started talking about politics, during the early protest days!!!...and during their growing up, they held onto the GEEZ of protesting, but, became identical to the overly nationalistic/politically partisan, do nothing, naive, out of step, out of time, people like their PARENTS....and became a starry eyed idealist, who buys into mesmerizing, political rhetoric...and thinks it's HEAV-E-Y MAN....and all the guy, who is talkin', 'so heavy, man!'...is just talkin' shit...
We used to have a saying about people like that, years ago..still use it..."If you 'turn on' a lame, what you get is a turned on lame!"
I used to marvel, at how lame some of the 'protesters' were back then, they'd march, protest, start talkin revolution', as if it meant themselves, too...and these were a bunch of weenies who were too chicken to get drafted, so they hid behind being a 'conscientious objector'!!! start singing 'Give Peace A Chance'...and then want to start a revolution!!!!....as long as everybody participated, except for him...maybe he could go home and catch the 'progess' on T.V....(must be ringin' a few bells out there)... ..I wonder if that's why they call them 'geezers'....and now we're here!
Well, I've put it in various ways before, I guess I'll say it again, If you got any substance and real discipline(more than just yakkin' shit, I'd recommend making the way the tones say the notes for you.
Besides, music is far more persuasive than arguing over 'talking points' which are, after all, carefully thought out, before being released, to argue about...but have very little to do with anything that's really going on.....but that's 'politics'...meant to manipulate and distract.
So let's have an in depth analysis and debate, over who's version of the distraction is 'better'..because there JUST MIGHT BE something TO IT!..and when you get to the very bottom of it...you completely forget, that, after all, it was a distraction....and then the next time you have to think about it, you count the 'experience' as gaining wisdom....and now we should listen to what you say..this TIME! So I'll leave this to entertain you...both Mudcatters and 'would be listeners'....if they haven't fallen asleep yet,....
a tune that 'got to the bottom of it' decades ago.....just a guy and a piano....Listen to the whole thing..and 'enjoy'.....(?)

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST,Henry Krinkle aka Niggardly Bastard
Date: 22 Jun 13 - 01:41 AM

With so many people with intelligence and law enforcement backgrounds here at the Mudcat and the common knowledge that folk music is Ground Zero for anti-government protest,I think the Mudcat may well be a spysite for the NSA.
Something to think about.
=(:-( o)

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Jun 13 - 12:07 AM

..in light of this thread.....

..you might want to check this out....

..and there are more...

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: number 6
Date: 21 Jun 13 - 04:52 PM

Why shouldn't I work for the NSA ?

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Jun 13 - 01:48 PM

Holy shit....now I'm really confused....send me another...right now..OK? Then I'll know what to look for...besides, I wasn't around the computer a while ago...I was either in the hospital or recovering at my daughter's, who was not online...

.....awaiting the mysterious e-mail........

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Jun 13 - 01:23 PM

GfS: I sent it over eight or nine months ago.

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Jun 13 - 01:16 PM

You sent me an e-mail??..let me go check..I didn't know...
Meanwhile..."And you think the NSA is bad just wait until the IRS gets your medical records"

Ok..be right back....

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Jun 13 - 12:20 PM

You didn't reply to my email, so laud yourself all you want, you're still a rude asshole, no offence. Good musician though.

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Jun 13 - 11:39 AM

...and thank you, SJL,...it's a shitty job, but somebody's got to do it! ....and I'm NOT a political guy, just a musician(among of couple of other things)...and by NOT being political, I don't have to make excuses for 'my side's' bad behavior, while throwing rocks at the 'other side'....but Dear Mudcatters, you can rest assured, this is the ONLY forum I'm on...so you can relax in the fact that the rest of the world will stay stupid. You'll have plenty of company recruiting 'impassioned lemmings' into your parties.
'I'm not in the party, officer, I'm with the band!'

Regards SJL!

GfS

P.S. Ahh, sweet objectivity!

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Jun 13 - 11:23 AM

Bobert: "This was and continues to be the stupidest of the stupid ideas but, hey, with a totally corrupted Congress this is the kind of stuff that happens..."

So, you think 'Congress' is the ONLY thing in Government that is corrupted???????????......That's interesting..it was a Democratic Congress that voted in Obama care, and the 'War'...

So is it ....Pick one

A.__Congress
B.__A Democratic Congress
C.__A Republican Congress
D.__The Supreme Court
E.__The Department of Justice
F.__The Democratic Administration
G.__The Republican Administration
H.__All of the Above
I.__None of the Above

Kool-Aid will be served after the quiz.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Jun 13 - 10:14 AM

Let's get real here... The NSA predates Obama's election and it's practices have been have as well...

Here's the rub... Over the course of it's existence privatization has been pushed on it by the "usual suspects" (Congressmen with rich donors like Blackwater, Halliburton, etc.) with some ill-conceived notion that they are cheaper???

Huh???

$200,000 a year for a high school dropout...

Well, seems that "security clearances" have been privatized, too, and that is absolutely turning government over to the corporations... This was and continues to be the stupidest of the stupid ideas but, hey, with a totally corrupted Congress this is the kind of stuff that happens...

Remember Halliburton getting that no-bid contract in Iraq??? The argument was that only Halliburton knew how to do the stuff that needed to be done???

Huh???

Drive trucks??? Build schools and hospitals??? Cook food??? Do laundry???

Uh huh??? Some very complicated stuff...

Oh, and remember Halliburton getting caught stealing million$ in tax payer money by over charging US for fuel???

Cheaper, my butt...

This is the kinda shit that happens when you allow the fox to guard the hen house, people... That is the scandal here... We have a systemic problem with the way we conduct security and you can lay the blame for all of this at the feet of George W and Congress... They set it up to fail and it's doing a fine job of it...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST,SJL
Date: 21 Jun 13 - 09:49 AM

Fwd: RE: BS: NSA Scandal

Guest from Sanity, you are right on target with all that you have been saying. These others have their heads in the sand. That's a bad thing because we should all have an awareness of what is really happening here.

And who pays for those enormous data storing centers? That's right! They are making us pay for our own enslavement, oh excuse me, safety right? Yeah, right.

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Jun 13 - 08:15 AM

"P.S...OK..back to the topic..."


Right. To quote you, "Wuz dat??"

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Jun 13 - 12:40 AM

Guest: "Diction and grammar surely do take a beating on this site."

Wuz dat??

GfS

P.S...OK..back to the topic...

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 09:44 PM

Diction and grammar surely do take a beating on this site.

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 06:16 PM

RE: BS: The NSA Scandal

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 12:54 PM

Just flushing the toilet might work.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 12:53 PM

Ho hum. Same old garbage from the usual suspects.

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Greg F.
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 12:33 PM

Look Out! GeistInsanity is throwing a temper tantrum- like most two-year-olds will do from time to time.

Anyone got a bucket of cold water?

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 12:02 PM

Eh???..Where have you been hiding for the last 40 years???
You don't know ANYTHING about this??????
..or are you just loud mouth idiots??

Look up ANYTHING I just posted...and quit being so fucking stupid, OK?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Greg F.
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 11:42 AM

Don, I think ShitWringer and BeardedBullshit must trade this garbage back and forth between them.

Question is, are they having us on, or do they actually believe the horseshit they post?

(that's a rhetorical question - no need to respond)

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 11:36 AM

If you really believe all that fantasy Goofus, I would suggest you would be best advised to STFU, because when they start eliminating "subversives", you'll be well up the list.

Naah! They'll spot in a nanosecond that you're all piss and wind.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 01:09 AM

Oh..and P.S. THAT was the incredibly SHORT version!!!!!!!!!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 01:06 AM

Jeez..Even under Nixon, John Lennon's phones were tapped. This isn't new...and back then they thought he was subversive. I guess history will tell us if he was....though, to the policies of the Nixon administration, he was a subversive....I mean, look how the public opinion changed about the Vietnam War.....and certain elements in his administration were making a fortune off the Golden Triangle...and as long as they prolonged the war, the more money poured it....as long as it was for a 'good cause', they could rationalize it away...Oh, Oh..I forgot, not to mentioned the arms that were diverted from Vietnam to the Shah of Iran!...setting up the Iran/Contra crap..and then morphing into what they have over there, now...See, what happened is when they shut down shop in Southeast Asia, they set up shop in Central America...next came coke for arms,(and big profits)..then Iran changed hands, hostages, and deals for arms for their release....and they knew who they were dealing with, because they knew what we had been doing....and, Oh yeah, they tapped John Lennon's phone for being a 'subversive'......

...and one has to wonder....what the fuck are they up to now??...especially, when they are going broke......sorta makes people 'frantic'.....they've already allowed the Ponzi scheme to fuck over the housing market....started 'adventuristic wars', by lying through their teeth....been corrupted, and bought off by the same guys printing fiat money..AND THEN CHARGING US INTEREST to use it.....passed bills for their corporate buddies..even corrupted the Supreme Court....so you better watch out...YOU might be a 'subversive', OR you can nod your head, like falling asleep, in rapid succession, and be another 'yes man'....except you have to grow feathers, and be a 'yes-parrot'....and make LOTS of excuses, for the patently obvious corrupt behaviors, lies and further wars, and sabre rattling...all in the nature of being 'righteously justified'....yeppers, gobble it up.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Songwronger
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 09:03 PM

It was in November 1973 that President Richard M. Nixon, ensnared in the deepening Watergate scandal, uttered the phrase for which he will always be remembered: "I am not a crook."

Nearly 40 years later, President Barack Obama used a Monday night television interview to give his own variation on the same theme, insisting to the American public that he is not Dick Cheney.

Obama gave the interview largely to counter revelations about crimes far more serious than those committed by Nixon and his co-conspirators. Over the past two weeks, documents leaked by former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor Edward Snowden have revealed state surveillance programs carried out behind the backs of the American people and in violation of basic constitutional rights that target millions of people in the US and around the world....

If the former candidate of "hope" and "change" fears that he is increasingly perceived among many who voted for him as the reincarnation of Dick Cheney, it is for good reason. The PRISM program exposed by Snowden, in which Yahoo, Google, Microsoft and other private information technology companies collaborate with the NSA in spying on hundreds of millions, in the US and internationally, is the successor of the Terrorist Surveillance Program (TSP), the warrantless spying operation with which Cheney was identified before a federal court found it unconstitutional and illegal.

The TSP, along with other spying programs, was continued under a new name and with the FISA court's rubber stamp. It was passed on from the Bush to the Obama administration.

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 09:01 PM

Okay, biLL... You blame the Maine renecks and I'll blame the pones down here...

We got 'um all covered that way...

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: number 6
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 08:42 PM

there ya go again Bobert ... always blaming those southerners on everything and over all this NSA spy stuff ... it's so,well, so cliche ... personally I blame those folks in Maine ... living right up there bordering on those two Canadian provinces of Quebec and New Brunswick ... that would make any red blooded American downright paranoid.

biLL   ;)

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 08:27 PM

I thought this was about the so-called NSA scandal, which would have not been squat under George W. Bush...

What we are seeing is a major backlash against Obama by the usual suspects: Southerners...

Duhhhhh....

I appreciate the thread where other presidents had mixed blood... Southern Man don'f know squat about that... I know, I live here...

Bottom line is that what we are seeing is a different standard for a black president then what we see for a white president... Look where all the big whiners come from... The South or midwest...

Ain't rocket surgery here...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Suzy Sock Puppet
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 07:57 PM

Don, it is not the KKK, it's me, Susan. I've been using another phone because I used up all my own data watching YouTube videos. I had this idea that it would be fun to compare several videos of the same song in much the same way people around here compare texts. After sifting through dozens of covers of the same song, I picked out 9, 11 if you count visuals. And then I ran out of data because of it. Now I've gone and signed in on someone else's phone to allay your fears that I am the KKK :-)

Hey, when we're done arguing here, can we like play a game or something?

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Songwronger
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 07:47 PM

My better half might think you're mistaken about the number of contacts, Maggie. Maybe I should sign her up here and let the two of you discuss how many times you've harassed me. Or no, I can't do that because you'd wet your pants if two people posted from the same IP address. You seem to be stricken with Surveillance Sickness. That's no doubt part of why you wanted to become a moderator, and it's what makes you unfit to be one. A conundrum, like with politicians: the only people fit to serve are the ones who don't want to serve.

But back to the topic.

This story is disgusting. Obama pretends to trash Dick Cheney, the war criminal he allowed to go free. Truly disgusting. Both men should have been fairly tried and executed by now:

Obama, Cheney and Snowden's revelations

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 07:40 PM

No state has anti-miscegenation laws. The last was Alabama, the laws voted off in 2000.

Many western states had anti-miscegenation laws until the 1950s-1960s.

The laws in some of these states also specified Asians, Filipinos and native Americans (Oregon, Nevada, Arizona, Idaho).

The Supreme Court decision was in 1967.

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Don Firth
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 06:11 PM

Goofball reaffirming his excuse for being unable to answer a couple of direct questions.

Pathetic!!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 05:53 PM

What is this??? What does this have to do with the NSA??...Why don't you take it to the "BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration" thread?
instead of re-affirming what great tolerant racists you are, on this thread!...and BTW, I agree whole-hardheartedly with 'GUEST,SJL' post..but take it to the other thread.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Don Firth
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 03:46 PM

By the way, my abject apologies to all Neanderthals.

The current batch of racists here are more akin to the sort of stuff that a lab technician grows in a Petri dish.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 03:11 PM

""Oh please. What does the color of Obama's skin have to do with the fact that 100 % of him is a complete and utter sellout""

So, which one are you Guest?.....KKKrinkle, of Shitwringer.

That "Al-Obama" is a direct quote from a resident racist, who has played the race card consistently.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Don Firth
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 03:03 PM

The "Race card" has already been played by the "Hate Obama" crowd.

In the "Hate Obama" campaign, Obama's skin color has a great deal to do with it.

In the Southern States after the Civil War, and in some backward pockets of the South even now, being one-eighth black classifies one as an "octoroon," and according to the miscegenation laws, meant that it was illegal for a white person and an "octoroon" to marry. "Racial mixing" was considered an abomination and "against God's laws." (Where in the Bible does it say that?).

Miscegenation laws were outlawed by the Supreme Court as late as 1967. But in some Southern States, those laws are still on the books, despite the Supreme Court's ruling.

So in the minds of some Neanderthals still extant these days, the fact that Barack Obama is of "mixed race" makes it particularly egregious. And according to their system of racial classification, Obama is a "mulatto."

And the fact that a "mulatto" occupies the White House is particularly intolerable to some people.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 11:58 AM

Lets have a Congressional Circus, like the impeachment trial President Andrew Johnson faced in 1867.

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST,SJL
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 08:05 AM

Oh please. What does the color of Obama's skin have to do with the fact that 100 % of him is a complete and utter sellout who went back on everything he said in his 2008 campaign- and then some. Look at what his administration has done! He's the Bush Administration on steroids. And this is coming from a Democrat who helped him get elected. My mother is even more of a Democrat than I am and when he comes on, she sits over in her chair and says things like, "Ugh, stop lying through your teeth!"

No sir. The race card is what got him elected. His unrestrained assault on the Bill of Rights is responsible for his sinking approval rating. It's what he'll be remembered for. And his AG will go down as the worst AG we've ever had. I wouldn't even know where to start with him. I guess if you're black or part black you can advance more of the elitist agenda than a white person can due to the fact that if people don't like what you're doing, they are automatically racist according to the folks who actually factor race in.

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 07:05 AM

""Why do you choose the other 50% to fawn over?

Why do you choose that 50% to hate?

Answer....You don't!

You just use his black half as an excuse to hate the whole man.

""(Pres Barack Hussein Al-Obama)"" Those words don't say anything about Obama, but they do tell us exactly what you are Henry KKKrinkle aka Ni**erHatingBastard.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST,Henry Krinkle aka Niggardly Bastard
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 01:55 AM

He's 50% white Mr. Firth. Why do you choose the other 50% to fawn over? Does the white, Anglo Saxon part not fit your agenda?
And you apologists always revert to drawing the race card.
RE:BS: The NSA Scandal.


=(:-( D)

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Don Firth
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 03:56 PM

It was bad enough to have a Jewish president—people like Songwronger and his entourage insisted that, instead of Roosevelt, his real name was "Rosenfeld." To them, FDR was part of the "International Jewish Conspiracy."

Then, when John F. Kennedy got elected, the story from these people was that the Catholics were taking over the United States, and that they were even building a tunnel under the Atlantic Ocean from the Vatican to the basement of the White House.

No kidding! I heard that from several sources!

Then, Kennedy was shot. And just to make sure, they shot his younger brother as well.

Obama is the first non-white, non-Anglo-Saxon to be elected to the White House.

What the Hell! Trashing a President who happens to get elected despite the fact that he is not out of the acceptable KKK cookie-cutter is a Grand American Tradition.

He could wear a halo, heal the sick, raise the dead, and walk on water, and they'd still hate his guts.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 03:16 PM

Don,

Welcome to Tin Foil Nation... They don't know a danged thing about anything yet profess to know everything about everything... Reminds me of what my daddy used to say: "The world's biggest fool is not known until he opens his mouth"...

These Tea-KKers are all alike... They don't do reality... They just hate...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 02:55 PM

Anacephalics usually have small, deformed heads, rather than bigheads. Fortunately, very few survive long after birth.

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Don Firth
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 02:50 PM

There are a couple of people here who start thread after thread, all with one main aim:   trash President Obama. Songwronger, although certainly not the only one, is undoubtedly one of the most rabid. And prolific, having started many such threads.

And he and his cohorts draw the usual collection of sycophantic boot-lickers and yes-men—like Goofball.

And the stuff these Obama-haters post invariably has its origins in web sites and e-mail news-letters like "World Net Daily" and "NewsMax," the Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly of the internet.

If one responds to these screeds with facts and logic, one is deluged with accusations of being a "Liberal" (well, yes!) and a "Fascist" (one cannot be both, which shows the level of political knowledge on the accusers' part) and a general barrage of other spittle-spraying insults.

And you ask a few logical on-topic questions, instead of getting answers, you get accusations of diverting the thread, along with more spittle-spraying.

An egregious waste of band width.

(Question:   Do these dingbats ever post in the music threads? Considering that this is primarily a folk music web site and discussion group, what the heck are they doing here? Why aren't they making pests of themselves on some political forum?)

As Dante said of those who occupy the lowest rung of Hell, "It is best to look upon them once, then pass on and think no more about them."

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 01:12 PM

RE: BS: The NSA Scandal

Don(Wyziwyg)T: "Of course you would never dream of belittling anybody, or derailing the grown ups' conversations,...........actually, YES you would, and constantly do present yourself as the one with all the answers!
You don't even understand the questions bighead!"

RE: BS: The NSA Scandal

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 04:36 AM

""Yeah, she even deleted a harmless joke by me...she does that...sorta like the same mindset that edits Mark Twain, who captured the mood of the times, they change it, to be politically correct.. and then deny that they re-write history!
Come on, we are bigger than that....aren't we?......aren't we?""

Awww Diddums!

Maybe it wasn't as funny as you thought!

Of course you would never dream of belittling anybody, or derailing the grown ups' conversations,...........actually, YES you would, and constantly do present yourself as the one with all the answers!

You don't even understand the questions bighead!

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 04:27 AM

""But Hitlerette didn't just delete the posts, she gave the handles the person uses. Snitch behavior. Slimy Stasi behavior.""

Wrong as usual Shitwringer!

The slimy one is the devious bastard using multiple IDs to hold conversations with himself and falsely claim that he isn't alone in his nasty biased views.

Dickheads like that need to be outed!

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 04:17 AM

""SJL's post is interesting, however, I believe that "surveillance" goes back a lot longer than the 1700s... It is the basis of parenting and being a member of a civilized society... I mean, let's get real here... People watch other people... It's human nature... It's also part of one's or a society's survival skills...""

Way, way back, much further than you would think!

""Quis custodes custodiet?"" takes surveillance back at least to the Roman Empire.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The NSA Scandal
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 03:45 AM

SRS: "You think too much of yourself."

Product of high expectations of one's self, perhaps?
Sometimes people get fascinated with admiring God's handiwork in their lives.

It's cool.

The real blessings come, when you marvel, and treat it with the respect.

....and look for it in others.

Pretty soon, you lift people, as is, "May your faith and confidence grow, and may your highest expectations, be the ones found in yourself."

One temporary drawback is smaller minded people, who are fearful, misinterpret that, as being mean...or nasty....so out of their fears, they feel a need to control.

And musicians have a need to express themselves....(or would we be musicians?)

Sooner or later, they walk out of their fears.....
Life keeps growing.

Cheers!

GfS