BS: Sigh

Subject: RE: BS: Sigh
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Aug 15 - 09:23 PM

Enjoying a few Sierra Nevada Pale Ales while watching some real football on the tube - no, not that pansy game they call football in the UK.

Subject: RE: BS: Sigh
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Aug 15 - 08:53 PM

Yebbut at the end of the day, to coin a cliche, we're all human beings. Too many rules and restraints spoil the broth. What we need to do a lot more is to trust the complete idiots who post here to continue to make utter arses of themselves. They hardly need the help of our insults, do they? I could name names, but I don't want to spoil the sentiment of this post. I do reserve the right, however... ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Sigh
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Aug 15 - 08:37 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Sigh
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Aug 15 - 07:11 PM

"No wonder I call them wankers."

Sigh!


Actually "mass-debate" is quite a good pun.

Subject: RE: BS: Sigh
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Aug 15 - 08:33 PM

When people think a thread has degenerated to a condition of spinning around repetitively, and petty insults are flying, there has been a Mudcat tradition of changing the subject, typically by posting recipes. Talking about beer is an interesting enough variant on that.

Sometimes the technique can be misapplied when a discussion actually is at an interesting stage, but it strikes me as a basically good technique, and a better alternative than waiting for a mudelf to pull the plug.

If people can actually know when to button their lips and avoid responding in kind to what they see as provocations we wouldn't need either. And it really would help if we all adopted a policy of "what goes on in a thread stays in the thread", and restrain ourselves from carrying on feuds from thread to thread - which is particularly irritating to those who didn't read the earlier threads in question.

Subject: RE: BS: Sigh
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Aug 15 - 08:28 PM

Well we have literally THOUSANDS of British beers and they are nearly all utter shite. In our erudite beer posts here, we are trying to winkle out the few good ones, nay, superb ones. Anyone can come up with a list. And, as I think I said, probably in some bloody thread or other that some yank shut down, do not, under pain of being severely scoffed at, mention any beer that is neither cask-conditioned nor bottle-conditioned. The pasteurised, yeastless bottled beer has got about as much to do with real beer as the Linda McCartney sausage has to do with proper meat. I haven't checked your list as yet, but I may well do so, in which case stand by thy bloody musket...

Subject: RE: BS: Sigh
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Aug 15 - 08:13 PM

You obviously haven't had Polygamy Porter, Bitch Creek, Moose Drool, any of the various IPAs, Fire House, Belligerent Ass, Midnight Satin, Grog, Trout Slayer...there are now literally hundreds of American beers. Some of them have taken, year after year, international awards. In fact, one of the larger industries in town is Western Malting and yes, right here in the middle of LDS country, is a malting plant that supplies malt to most of the breweries in the Pacific Northwest and it's expanding. Coors, Budweiser -- forget about 'em. Have a good beer!

Subject: RE: BS: Sigh
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Aug 15 - 07:50 PM

Except for American beer.

Subject: RE: BS: Sigh
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Aug 15 - 07:49 PM

It is inconceivable that anyone discussing beer is an idiot. For beer is one of the most
perfect creations of mankind, right up there with the paintings of Caravaggio and the late piano sonatas of Beethoven. Any thread below the line that is interrupted by talk of any of these things is a thread enriched

Subject: RE: BS: Sigh
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Aug 15 - 07:11 PM

"No wonder I call them wankers."

Sigh!

Subject: RE: BS: Sigh
From: akenaton
Date: 22 Aug 15 - 07:06 PM

The thread was started by a troll who could not answer the points put to him.
It was ruined by idiots discussing beer.

Subject: RE: BS: Sigh
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Aug 15 - 02:35 PM

Not been to the folk fest for years, Raggy. I went to the goth festival a couple of times and once it clashed with a folky event. Goth morris was brilliant. Have a good evening whatever you decide to do.

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From: Raggytash
Date: 22 Aug 15 - 02:30 PM

Eh up Mucka we can still talk about the beer and the weather. It's been quite a humid day today. Loads of singing and music in town as you would expect. May toddle down tonight for another pint or two.

Subject: RE: BS: Sigh
From: gnu
Date: 22 Aug 15 - 02:30 PM

Well said, Bill.

Subject: RE: BS: Sigh
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Aug 15 - 02:29 PM

I thought that "civil debate on Mudcat" was an example of an oxymoron.

Subject: RE: BS: Sigh
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Aug 15 - 02:05 PM

Several of those who cannot abstain from carrying on their battles are also registered members. It IS possible to do all their back & forth in PMs.... but I suppose not nearly as ...ummm... satisfying?

Thanks for trying, Dave...

Subject: RE: BS: Sigh
From: Raedwulf
Date: 22 Aug 15 - 01:30 PM

I hope the daughters moved as they should. Is there checkmate in the offing? Or have the bishops had a synod & decided to be revolting? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Sigh
From: gnu
Date: 22 Aug 15 - 01:14 PM

Oh! Is that what Guest was on about in "It had to happen"? Sad indeed. I didn't read much of it after it got trolled.

Subject: BS: Sigh
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Aug 15 - 01:06 PM

I go away for 24 hours and the thread I created about civil debating is trashed by an uncivil mas-debate. No wonder I call them wankers. Sorry all who suggested that I should not resort to abuse but there was just no excuse to trash a thread that I had managed to keep civil until I left off to help my daughters move house. I really am quite upset about it :-(

Still, one good thing. The move went far easier than I thought. It is all in there. They are spending one more night here and tomorrow we will get everything in a better semblance of order.

Thanks to Raedwulf, Bill D and Kevin for some brilliant postings. Thanks to Raggytash and Steve Shaw for trying to settle things in my absence. To those of you who either did not read the article I linked or read it and did not understand. Shame on you. It will be a long time before I try to converse civily with any of you again.

Mods, thank you for your earlier quiet policing anyway. I can see your job was too difficult in the end. Could you please ensure this message stays up even if you have to close the thread at a later stage.