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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Ed T Date: 24 Aug 15 - 07:00 AM You don't have to be a historian to know it was "difficult times in WW I pubs". war and beer |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Dave the Gnome Date: 24 Aug 15 - 05:57 AM We are only about 30 miles from Kirby Lonsdale and I didn't even know they had a brewery! Mind you - there are a lot closer. Nearest is Naylors at Cross Hills - about 1/2 a mile. Next is Old Bear near Riddlesden - 4 miles-ish then Both Copper Dragon and Grey Hawk in the same brewery near Skipton - 5 miles and the famous Timothy Taylors at Keighley - Again about 5 miles. I think there is one in Goose Eye which is about 3 miles but I have never tried that. We are well blessed :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Steve Shaw Date: 24 Aug 15 - 05:52 AM For several years I was on the tasting panel for Doom Bar. We convened every Friday afternoon at Sharps brewery in Rock to assess the batches of Doom that had been brewed that week. It was quite a detailed exercise. Occasionally the head brewer, Stuart Howe, would try out his new beers on us and get us trying some continental brews. Somebody had to do it... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: GUEST,Raggytash Date: 24 Aug 15 - 05:33 AM My normal tipple is Guinness |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Jim Carroll Date: 24 Aug 15 - 05:27 AM Don't any of you people drink decent beer? Whatever happened to Young's Ordinary or Everard Tiger? Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: GUEST,Raggytash Date: 24 Aug 15 - 05:24 AM Drink beer. We also tried Tiffin Gold 3.6% from the Kirby Longsdale Brewery and Endless Summer 3.4% from the Oakham Ales Brewery |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Jim Carroll Date: 24 Aug 15 - 04:30 AM Why is WWI still being fought on this thread? Is this not the reason why may of us why many of us "sigh"? Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 24 Aug 15 - 04:01 AM Raedwulf, Musket is coy about his views on WW1. This random post from the thread I linked to last week gives the gist of it. RE: BS: Armistice Day (debate) From: GUEST,Musket - PM Date: 17 Nov 13 - 06:36 AM No amount of quoting those paid to revise history is going to further your cause Keith. We commemorate Remembrance Sunday NOT to remember how we won a war or two, but to ensure we learn from the mistakes of the past. We don't set up cenotaphs to those taken by cancer or coronary heart disease, or those killed at work, or those in car accidents... We do it for the fallen in war. Why? To make sure those with an appetite for war are reminded of the mistakes and callous disregard for human life that the disgraceful senior staff at The War Office had in those days. They started the remembrance idea in order to remind ourselves how good we are at war, but the idea was taken over by far more rational thought than they could ever realise. We remember to try to make sure we don't make the mistakes again, however unsuccessful we seem to be. Your idolising of revisionist hacks is a barrier to facing the cold facts that our fallen were all in vain. Slaughtered for no reason in the First World War and slaughtered in the Second World War because we couldn't even get the peace right.... Does it worry you that they were duped into believing jingoistic lies? Does it worry you that most were killed through the disgraceful actions of their leaders? Does it worry you that there is no glory in war, just futile death. Cheer leaders for military fools should hang their heads in shame, as they are a hindrance to remembering why we stand there each year. Sorry Keith, but in the "Masters of War" debate, they seem to retain their servants...... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Backwoodsman Date: 24 Aug 15 - 02:03 AM Yeah, but the 'Guest' tag is the giveaway, isn't it? Whenever I see a post which appears to be a bona-fide member posting as a 'Guest', I automatically assume it's some twat of an imposter. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Steve Shaw Date: 23 Aug 15 - 09:42 PM I meant "Guest-whatever-name-you-picked". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Steve Shaw Date: 23 Aug 15 - 09:40 PM Actually, a couple of posts appeared recently courtesy of "Guest Steve Shaw" that were not me. All you have to do is log out and type whatever name you like in the "from" box. It comes up as " Guest |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Raedwulf Date: 23 Aug 15 - 09:34 PM No, Steve, I don't spoof anyone. Neither do you. Not when "Steve Shaw" appears. Or do you share your own personal password with anyone? Musket, being several cunts (I offer no apologies), is another matter. As for the Guest shit, which appears to be amusing small minds at the moment, it's not clever at all. The sooner small minds grow bored, the better. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Steve Shaw Date: 23 Aug 15 - 09:30 PM Yes you are equalled! Have you forgotten that we're co-Messiahs? Jays, I never had this bloody trouble with the Holy soddin' Ghost... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: GUEST,MusketKeefAcheStevieboyWottevah Date: 23 Aug 15 - 09:02 PM Yeah, why not, Musket! Steve here by the way. As ever, I cannot tell a lie. :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Charmion Date: 23 Aug 15 - 08:44 PM Do you suck them very slowly or crunch them very fast? I also would like to take exception to those who denigrate cider. Very fond of cider, I am -- especially a veritable champagne of a cider from the Waupoos Island Brewery in Prince Edward County, Ontario. Excellent stuff. I think I'll have one and then go to bed, perchance to dream of gnus dancing in the night. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Steve Shaw Date: 23 Aug 15 - 08:31 PM Come along now, Doug. You castigate the Musket project for being shaky over identity, yet you, I and everyone else here posts to a forum in which there are God knows how many anonymous guests and in which we all have the unbounded ability to spoof anyone else's identity. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: GUEST Date: 23 Aug 15 - 08:25 PM John Coltrane's masterwork, A Love Supreme, was only played once in live concert. This portion is the only surviving film of that 1965 performance. "A Love Supreme" by John Coltrane |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: gnu Date: 23 Aug 15 - 08:12 PM Notice the container from Canada. That's the one you could play like a Kazoo when it was empty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk2WfYkgfCk |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: gnu Date: 23 Aug 15 - 08:04 PM Smartie up! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: gnu Date: 23 Aug 15 - 08:00 PM When you eat your Smarties, do you eat the red ones last? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: gnu Date: 23 Aug 15 - 07:30 PM I re-read that thread I linked and it's fun... here is my fav post... says it all... Subject: RE: Eminem Rules From: Big Mick - PM Date: 10 May 01 - 11:52 PM I told y'all this worked better than arguin' with these folks!! You are all brilliant........I love this thread!!! Mick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Doug Chadwick Date: 23 Aug 15 - 07:16 PM Makes it all the funnier for me really. There we have it, I think. As I understand it, Team Musket is claimed to be a deliberate confusion as a defence against those who might attack the individuals. Any fault lies with others and the ruse would not be required if 'they' would only play within the rules. Despite these lofty claims, I suggest that, in truth, it is no more than a silly jape, a schoolboy wheeze, a way of having a laugh at the expense of the rest of us. For myself, I am tired of it. It does Mudcat no favours. It is time that the members of Team Musket grew up and started acting like adults. DC |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Musket Date: 23 Aug 15 - 06:20 PM Yeah. Musket can be a bit of a twat at times. If someone is sad enough to notice, we contradict each other all the time. I find it hilarious. Musket isn't a person so how anyone can be wary of statements is beyond my / our / Gaia comprehension. To be fair, we could have found a better name because one of us had already started using it and some assume it is him. Makes it all the funnier for me really. Gnu. Don't let the bed bugs bite. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: gnu Date: 23 Aug 15 - 06:07 PM "... after Musket emailed me the contents of a PM he had recently from Joe Offer..." Sigh... gnightgnu. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Doug Chadwick Date: 23 Aug 15 - 06:05 PM Even if the members of Team Musket have the same general outlook on life, there must surely be times when the views of one Musket contradict the views of another. As the owner of a unique Mudcat identity, I would be very wary of letting others put out statements which appear to come from me. DC |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Musket Date: 23 Aug 15 - 05:53 PM True.. It can be difficult to spot, even for moderators as the main reason we know each other is through NHS circles and the NHS Net VPN that we all have on our iPads polls out onto the Internet through proxy servers, or put another way, one of half a dozen static IP addresses. If moderators ever start moderating, (and after Musket emailed me the contents of a PM he had recently from Joe Offer, I doubt there is hope..) then there would be no need for this. I notice Ian uses Musket occasionally in music threads. I use my other log in for decent debate. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: gnu Date: 23 Aug 15 - 05:52 PM My favourite MC thread. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: gnu Date: 23 Aug 15 - 05:48 PM Oh... I remember the old days. When men were men and women were whatever the wanted to be and trolls were beaten unmercifully by 'the herd'. I recall one thread. It was a masterpiece of troll tromping. I must seek it out. It was fun, in a twisted way. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Dave the Gnome Date: 23 Aug 15 - 05:36 PM I must say, I often find it difficult to spot who is who but I love the concept. There are loads of tossers who post with multiple names but nothing seems to be said about them. Yet 3 people post with the same name and the usual suspects crap themselves. Keep it up, Musket(s) but I doubt if anything will ever be done about the ludicrous situation that caused the tri-partite morph :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Musket Date: 23 Aug 15 - 05:28 PM You see, red wolf answers his own question. By assuming who you are addressing, you bring your prejudice to the fore about that person. That's why three of us, all old mates, all sad singers etc decided to share a log in. We got the idea from Musket who had a patient he spoke to on the phone about his problem with his heart and at the end, the patient said "Thank you. It is nice to have a doctor concentrate on my heart complaint rather than speak to my wheel chair and associated visible problems." It was after Keith A Hole of Hertford trawled threads in the music section to find things to use against Ian whilst at the same time, Jack the Sailor found a snippet against me in my other log in. Fuck 'em. It's great to read Keith and Akenhateon squawk about multiple personality. I met Keith once at a folk club, before I ever became a Musket. Lovely to read his "I guarantee I am right when I say I have never met you." Not that I asked for his autograph, you understand... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Dave the Gnome Date: 23 Aug 15 - 05:22 PM Thanks for seeing the idiocy, gnu. Gnight, gnight. I was in desperate need of a brandy due to lower intestine problems, Raggy. I cannot talk about good beer at the mo. You don't want any more details. Honest! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: akenaton Date: 23 Aug 15 - 05:21 PM Come on gnu you know I never mock the afflicted, sleep...sleep. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: gnu Date: 23 Aug 15 - 05:16 PM "I'll leave the trolls in peace....for now. :0) " Hahahahahahaa! That is fucking hilarious!!!! Ake, yer so fulla shit yer eyes are brown you troll of repeated renown. You've been at it for years yet you have the balls (sorry, it's just a saying) to post that? Sigh |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: GUEST,Raggytash Date: 23 Aug 15 - 05:16 PM More about the beer festival tomorrow boys and girls |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Dave the Gnome Date: 23 Aug 15 - 05:08 PM Trouble is there are some people too thick to see the joke and will assume that you are really calling someone a bastard, Raedwulf. The legitimacy of their claims may bar sinister conversations. OK, OK, I have done with that line... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: GUEST Date: 23 Aug 15 - 05:06 PM One of the joys of Christmas-egg nog and your choice of spirits. Everything else is a plus. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Raedwulf Date: 23 Aug 15 - 04:48 PM As I said, Steve, legitimately. Bastard. (See what I did there? ;-) ) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: GUEST,Raedwulf Date: 23 Aug 15 - 04:45 PM But this is Steve Shaw being mischievous, not Raedwulf (sorry, mate). So there's more than one person who can "legitimately" post as you. I promise I'll never do this again! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Raedwulf Date: 23 Aug 15 - 04:31 PM Whichever Musket I happen to be answering... See? That right there is one very big problem. It's well known that there's three or four people who post under the soubriquet of Musket. Apparently, you're not Ian Mather (who I have run across before (and we have violently disagreed in the past). Now there's you, and you sound just like him. Max & Joe, and Uncle Mudcat Cobbley & all, have always been very much against restricting Guest privileges, despite all the arguments about it over the years (years before any Musket appeared). You know who you're talking to, because (barring Guests masquerading as members) there's only one person who can legitimately post as.... Raedwulf, Dave the Gnome, akenaton, Whoever. Presuming that we don't share our passwords with anyone else (I don't). Right now, I've no idea who I'm talking to. Except that you're effectively anonymous. I could, of course, add a string of insults, of sneering, but what would be the point? Forgive me if I've mis-remembered the name, but I refer to Ian Mather, claimed doctor & etc, to distinguish a very odious Musket from less odious Muskets. I'm not, right now, in the mood to track back through past postings to verify whether I've screwed up or not (entirely possible, I admit!). Why does the Musket clan have a problem with adopting unique handles? Most other users seem to be able to manage it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Dave the Gnome Date: 23 Aug 15 - 04:07 PM Any excessively large amount of sherry is instantly forgiven by me. Which end your Futtocks are is not relevant. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Steve Shaw Date: 23 Aug 15 - 03:40 PM Am I even allowed to be forgiven for chucking an excessively large amount of sherry in the trifle, a la Futtock's End? Anyone for tennis? :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Dave the Gnome Date: 23 Aug 15 - 03:06 PM I have just set my two grandsons, aged 4 and 6, talking on a party call to their Mum and Dad. The result sounds very similar to these threads. Lots of noise and whingeing with very little sense. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: GUEST,Musket Date: 23 Aug 15 - 02:54 PM Err.. Raedwolf. Just one point. Of course there are many but just a small one. You said Mr Mather. There is a Musket called Dr Mather, to afford him title as you insist on using it, albeit wrongly, but unless I am mistaken, I am the only Musket on this thread? And I am not Dr Mather or indeed Mr Mather. (I know he doesn't use his title other than in academia. I do but there again I enjoy profession too.) Now, I could also have just said fuck off, but I'd prefer to give you respect, even though your outpourings don't seem to deserve it. I love wine but not too keen on the whining I read on Mudcat these days. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Dave the Gnome Date: 23 Aug 15 - 02:22 PM The last word of someone with no good argument? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: akenaton Date: 23 Aug 15 - 02:11 PM I'll leave the trolls in peace....for now. :0) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Dave the Gnome Date: 23 Aug 15 - 02:08 PM I think not, but am, as always, willing to be educated. In what way does the post in question indicate that the sole purpose was to cause an argument? I would take Raedwulfs advice if I was you. Or go back to not responding to my posts. Either will be better than digging any deeper. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: akenaton Date: 23 Aug 15 - 02:06 PM :0)....Its because I like you Raed!...and your application for Scottish residence sealed it for me. The kilt, brogues and sporran await you. and a great big dram if we ever meet. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: akenaton Date: 23 Aug 15 - 02:00 PM I know exactly what an internet troll is, and you are one...a clumsy and easily spotted one, not dangerous, simply irritating, but one all the same. Anyone reading your post, the one above, will spot three instances of trolling in one post. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Raedwulf Date: 23 Aug 15 - 01:58 PM Mr Mather, I'll agree or disagree with your expressed opinion. The way you express it is too often objectionable, which I always disagree with. Sometimes, I admit, I respond to you in the way you respond to others and, yes, you're quite right, two wrongs don't make a right (not that I expect you to admit that you ever give anyone else just cause...). Given the "revisionist" remark, I don't think it was unreasonable of me to presume that you fall more on the "Butchers" side of the argument. But I phrased what I said carefully (carefully enough that we seem to be talking instead of slanging each other, anyway! ;-) ), because I don't know for sure. Incidentally, we do often... well maybe agree is going a bit far, but we're often on the same side of the argument. More often than you may realise. So, out of curiosity, what do you think, broadly, on WWI? Butchers, blameless, or somewhere betwixt & between? (Incidentally, The Donkeys - written by someone who later happily admitted that he made up at least one very well known quote!) And Ake, I've been known to tell you're being a bloody idiot in public. I've no idea why, but you seem to accept it from me, when you object to it from others. At the minute, you're being a bloody idiot again. Give it a rest, eh? You're not doing yourself any favours, old son. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sigh From: Dave the Gnome Date: 23 Aug 15 - 01:54 PM And that is trollish because..? Do you actually understand what an internet troll is? I am more than happy to help if you need help with modern colloquialisms. Free of charge of course. |
