Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: Jason Xion Wang Date: 17 Oct 17 - 03:02 AM Thanks Dave... I've finally made things work after using hexadecimal codes, i.e. "🐸" for "🐸"... 😂😂😂 Pretty inconvenient I'll admit! |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: Jason Xion Wang Date: 17 Oct 17 - 03:12 AM I'll try posting some Chinese lyrics here... 小燕子,穿花衣, 年年春天来这里, 我问燕子你为啥来? 燕子说:“这里的春天最美丽!” Seems that everything is fine now. |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: DaveRo Date: 17 Oct 17 - 04:58 AM I notice today that apostrophe is appearing as ? in some posts. So "I'll just add..." appears as "I?ll just add..." I wonder if those posts are being composed 'off site' and pasted in, and those are actually 'right single quotes' - "I’ll just add ..." Microsoft stuff had a habit of doing that - 'smart quotes'. It shows in preview, though. |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: GUEST,🐸🐹👀👁 Date: 17 Oct 17 - 09:39 PM Would this work? 🐸🐹👀👁 |
Subject: RE: Why can't I use the Mud🐱 search engine From: GUEST,Mud🐱 testing Date: 17 Oct 17 - 09:45 PM Mud🐱 testing |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: Joe Offer Date: 18 Oct 17 - 12:39 AM DaveRo says, "I notice today that apostrophe is appearing as ? in some posts. So "I'll just add..." appears as "I?ll just add..."." Those are the curly apostrophes, Dave - so probably the text was copy-pasted from a word processor. The straight apostrophes don't have that problem. -Joe- |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: DaveRo Date: 18 Oct 17 - 02:23 AM Joe Offer wrote: the text was copy-pasted from a word processorI thought so too, Joe. But the poster mentioned using an iPad, and it was a short post. Is is possible to generate the character ’ on an iPad keyboard? Just curious. GUEST,🐸🐹👀👁 wrote: Would this work?... GUEST,Mud🐱 testing wrote: ...testing...I wonder whether putting emoticons in usernames - and thefefore possibly into the database indexes, might have some unwelcome effects...? |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: Mr Red Date: 18 Oct 17 - 03:18 AM let's see - Denary has codes row followed by Hex hash codesrow. does this work 4 🦊 🤕 ? or this 4 🦊 🤕 ? Preview OK now - let's see which if either survive the 'Cat o' Nine Tales |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: keberoxu Date: 18 Oct 17 - 10:50 PM meanwhile, the search engine still doesn't work, says the bug in the mud. Gosh, darn. |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: Joe Offer Date: 19 Oct 17 - 12:39 AM Now, now, look at the sunny side. This is an excellent opportunity to learn how well our other search engines and the Filter work. Tips for searching are here (click) in the FAQ. Mudcat has many search tools - see Old Advanced Forum Search (click) in the QuickLinks dropdown menu.🎼 Keep on the sunny side..... ♬-Joe- |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: Mr Red Date: 19 Oct 17 - 04:07 AM well wotdooyooknow messages since last visit from the drop-down menu. The problem is my last visit was recorded (in a cookie?) as 17 Aug 2014. I have re-set it to today which seems a bit backwards unless I have set it in motion (never did before) by so doing. I will monitor is to see where it registers my last visit. ie manual, auto from thread page, or "last visit" page. |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: DaveRo Date: 19 Oct 17 - 05:22 AM You have an ID cookie and it will contain 20140817. It's your date of joining. I assume that the date of your last visit was initialized to that when your ID record was created in the database. |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: GUEST Date: 19 Oct 17 - 06:45 AM You have an ID cookie and it will contain 20140817. It's your date of joining. But Mr Red's posting history show that he first posted under that moniker in February '01 |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: DaveRo Date: 19 Oct 17 - 07:34 AM You're right, GUEST. I was going by my cookie. Maybe something was reset on that date then. |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: DaveRo Date: 21 Oct 17 - 04:50 AM Joe Offer wrote: When the poster submits the message, the special characters are changed into an ampersand code, so it will display properly and reliably. I hope that Max can make that feature work again. It is very important when posting songs in foreign languages.Until it does you could convert it using this_site. Delete the Foo stuff and paste the text into the top box. Then copy the bottom box into Mudcat and preview it. That should fix the current ? problem: Hall? Orchestra -> Hallé Orchestra |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: Mr Red Date: 21 Oct 17 - 05:40 AM yea, maybe I had a new computer, or a new iteration of a browser in 2014. My memory isn't that detailed. Now my Messages since last visit lists 20th onwards, which may be day oriented, not time. |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: Joe Offer Date: 22 Oct 17 - 09:08 PM Somebody emailed me about our missing search engine. This is the response I typed up. Maybe it will help somebody else: I suppose we could blame it on Google, but it's probably a good thing to do in the long run. Google has been pushing Websites to adopt https:// security, which is a good thing. It got to the point where Mudcat's owner Max Spiegel decided to go along with Google and increase security, but that meant that Max had to move Mudcat to a new platform. It's a difficult job, and it will take Max some time to get a number of functions back online. The most notable one is the "search" function. We've always had a number of search engines, and I usually use a variety. I wrote a description of our various search engines and how to use them in our FAQ: https://mudcat.org/detail.cfm?messages__Message_ID=196922 If you have trouble finding something, give me a holler. I'm pretty good at finding stuff. -Joe- joe@mudcat.org |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: Max Date: 24 Oct 17 - 11:51 AM I'm making progress. Give it a whirl. Also, while you are here, can y'all give me an idea of other websites that are resources for folk songs and the like that you also like to visit? The Google Custom search includes other sites as well. I'm looking to add more sites to it. I already have: www.csufresno.edu/folklore/ www.thebards.net/music/ maxhunter.missouristate.edu/ folkmusic.about.com nodepression.com etymonline.com thesession.org traditionalmusic.co.uk folktunefinder.com Any other suggestions? |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: Joe Offer Date: 24 Oct 17 - 09:50 PM Not working right now, Max. I searched for On the Charlie So Long - no cigar. |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: Max Date: 27 Oct 17 - 03:15 PM worked for me.
-Joe- |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: GUEST,keberoxu Date: 27 Oct 17 - 04:04 PM I'm the member who opened this thread -- and the Mudcat search engine works for me as well. Dreadful grateful, Frankenstein. |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: Jackaroodave Date: 27 Oct 17 - 04:51 PM I'm getting returns, but in some cases more than I asked for. For example: 0.8912 - Thread - Message - RE: new Dave Van Ronk CD - Oct 25 2013 3:29AM - ? Joe Offer 0.8912 - Thread - Message - RE: new Dave Van Ronk CD - Oct 25 2013 3:29AM - ? Joe Offer 0.8912 - Thread - Message - RE: new Dave Van Ronk CD - Oct 25 2013 3:29AM - ? Joe Offer Most are single, some are duplicate, and this one is triplicate. I'm using an old iPad, which can't handle a lot of javascript; maybe that's it. Anyway, it's nothing I can't live with. Thank you for all your hard work, Max. |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: keberoxu Date: 16 Sep 18 - 07:40 PM The bug in the mud is back. Sadly. I can't search using the Mudcat search feature -- at least, not successfully. |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 17 Sep 18 - 01:18 AM when I want something from Mudcat, I do a google site search (info wanted) site:mudcat.org |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 17 Sep 18 - 01:18 AM ps. info wanted is not put in brackets |
Subject: RE: A suggestion for the 'filter' box From: Joe Offer Date: 10 Mar 21 - 03:31 PM I thought I'd refresh this thread to encourage folks to use the Filter if they want to find things by thread name. Put a pertinent word or phrase in the filter box, set the age back (I usually set it to "all"), and click the Refresh button. You can do a secondary search of the results by using [CTRL-F]. The Filter is our fastest and easiest search engine. Also note the QuickLinks dropdown menu on most Mudcat pages. It has a link called Old Adv. Forum Search, which is kind of a misleading title. It is a toolbox of almost ALL of our search tools. You can search by the name of the poster, the title of the message or thread, and the text of the message. Our grey search box is a very good tool, but it depends on an index that must be generated. It doesn't get generated very often because that's a big job - so the search doesn't show messages posted within the last year or two or more. -Joe- |
Subject: RE: Tech: why can't I use the Mudcat search engine From: Joe Offer Date: 16 Apr 21 - 03:46 PM Remember that the main search engine depends on an index that has to be generated, so the recency of those searches depends on how recently Max updated the index. There are other search engines on the Old Advanced Forum Search on the quicklinks dropdown menu on most Mudcat pages. My favorite search engine is the Filter box at the top of the list of threads on the Forum Menu. It searches by thread name, and it's quick and accurate. Use one or two key words in the Filter, and then set the Age back. You can do a secondary search of the results with CTRL-F. Other search tips in the FAQ. And if you still can't find it, ask a moderator or start a thread and ask. -Joe- Searching Mudcat for Information |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat search engine tips From: Joe Offer Date: 01 May 22 - 03:31 AM Max manually resets the default for the filter to 14 days (or whatever) whenever Mudcat has been down for an extended time. Otherwise, there wouldn't be any threads listed on the Forum Menu. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat search engine tips-try the Filter From: Joe Offer Date: 04 Sep 22 - 12:20 PM The main search engine has been down, so it's time to explore all the alternatives we have. The easiest way to find threads is the Filter box at the top of the list of threads. Just enter a pertinent word, set the age back, and "refresh." In the Quick Links Dropdown Menu, the Old Advanced Forum Search can find things by message title and by the name of the poster. Oftentimes, you may get a lot of results and you might want to search your search results. You can search the results by using CTRL-F to find a pertinent word among the results. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat SEARCH engine tips-try the Filter From: GUEST Date: 20 Sep 23 - 11:25 AM I think that all the advice given is consistent. But if you are modeling the game or think of modeling it, you need to realize that nobody or almost nobody makes it on physical disks anymore. Think big and study anonymous vps because I think the time will come pretty soon when you will be keeping all your data on secure servers only. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat SEARCH engine tips-try the Filter From: Joe Offer Date: 18 Sep 23 - 11:48 PM Refresh. Learn these search tips and you won't even notice that the main search engine is down. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat SEARCH engine tips-try the Filter From: Joe Offer Date: 04 Dec 23 - 04:06 PM On the Mudcat Facebook page, the was a question about our search engine. To be honest, our most evident search has never worked very well and does not seem to be working at all now. But we have about ten search engines, all described in the FAQ (click). |
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat SEARCH engine tips-try the Filter From: Stilly River Sage Date: 27 Jan 24 - 11:52 AM Refreshing this due to a recent query about searches. |
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