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BS: UK politics

Iains 28 Jan 20 - 10:32 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Iains
Date: 28 Jan 20 - 10:32 AM

I guffaw, only remainiacs snigger -though God knows why!


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 28 Jan 20 - 11:02 AM

Friday.. something happening...??? hmmm Friday...??? Friday..????

oh.. remember now.. it's fortnightly all recycle bins and rubbish day...
and deadline for electric and water bills..
I knew there was a reason this Friday was at the back of my mind...

Life goes on regardless...............


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 28 Jan 20 - 11:47 AM

C'mon pfr. You know what this Friday is.
The deadline for self-assessment tax returns.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 28 Jan 20 - 12:05 PM

blimey.. there's so much going on this Friday,
it's almost impossible to keep track
of all the more boring events...

my mrs wants me to do something as well, but it's completely gone out of my mind..

erm.. fix the washing machine, or something...???


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Jan 20 - 08:17 AM

British Airways has suspended all flights to and from China.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Iains
Date: 29 Jan 20 - 08:25 AM

The new speaker rebukes Bercow.
https://order-order.com/2020/01/29/hoyle-rebukes-bercows-rule-breaking/#disqus_thread
Lindsay Hoyle previously promised he’d scrap Bercow’s reforms that tore up parliamentary precedent; and after today’s PMQs, he made his most public rebuking to date. Watch his post-PMQs statement in full above.

Last January, Bercow caused outrage by overruling the advice of the clerks in allowing an out of order amendment from Dominic Grieve, defying the advice of his senior clerk, and firmly showing the world he had completely abandoned any pretence of impartiality. At the time, he forbade his clerk from making any public comment…

Today, Sir Lindsay has announced a new procedure that will allow the Clerk of the House to publish his advice in the House of Commons Library if the Speaker makes a decision which compromises current Commons rules. Bullying allegations, no peerage and now his legacy being torn up – 2020 isn’t looking like a great year for Bercow…


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 Jan 20 - 09:41 AM

Gotta hand it to the Tories..
They do spiteful vindictive revenge far better than most other folks could ever lower themselves to...


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 29 Jan 20 - 10:41 AM

Sir Lindsey Hoyle is a Labour MP, pfr.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 Jan 20 - 11:07 AM

BWM - yeah.. that's as may be..

But tories still do spiteful vindictive revenge far better than most other folks...

Anyways.. pity poor Sir Lindsey Hoyle - what a toxic tory working environment
he's been landed with...


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 29 Jan 20 - 11:21 AM

Oh yes, can’t disagree pfr.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Iains
Date: 29 Jan 20 - 12:08 PM

Meanwhile, at clown central:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7942823/Fury-Labour-analysis-written-Jeremy-Corbyn-loyalists-clears-leader-election-hum

I guess they are booking trips to the skeleton coast - a fine piece of wilderness(last time I was there)
Alas poor Labour, thank God I never knew them well.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 Jan 20 - 12:18 PM

I've just got out the bathroom, eyes a bit bleary from soap & water..

I couldn't help reading that as..

"Jeremy-Corbyn-loyalists-clears-leader-election-bum"...!!!

Now that's more the sort of thing you's usually expect of tories,
growing up with nanny wiping their bottoms for them...
and brown nosing their way through career promotions...


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Iains
Date: 29 Jan 20 - 01:26 PM

EU votes overwhelmingly for Brexit
621 for 49 against.

We're OFF


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 Jan 20 - 01:33 PM

.. OUR heads...


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Jan 20 - 11:18 PM

Adieu, E.U.: British reps pack their bags as European Parliament approves Brexit

Here's a sample of a fairly long article:

Molly Scott Cato's rail ticket for her final trip back to London is printed and ready on her office desk. Her mementos from her past six years as a member of the European Parliament have been removed from the walls. One of the last things to go in a cardboard box will be her "Brexit: not my cup of tea" mug, which is still serving duty this week.

“It’s a very weird thing, isn’t it? Shutting the whole thing down. Switching off the light,” she said.

She’s bracing for the stroke of midnight as Friday turns to Saturday, when Britain will leave the European Union and, a bit like Cinderella, she’ll shed her status as a lawmaker and turn back into a civilian. . . .

As the hours of Britain’s membership dwindled, U.K. lawmakers prepared to mark the occasion in their own ways. In one lawmaker’s office, the assistants this week were applying for unemployment benefits and searching for other jobs. In another, preparations were underway for a rueful party Thursday evening at Place Luxembourg, the plaza outside the European Parliament that is lined with bars.

“People keep giving me their condolences,” said Magid Magid, the British Green Party lawmaker planning the party."


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 08:15 AM

Fuck brexit


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 10:15 AM

You've covered tens of thousands of posts and millions of words in two little words, Bonzo. Excellent!


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 10:32 AM

Wot? A rabid, raving, Right-Winger, and he’s anti-Brexit?
Something doesn’t add up.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Iains
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 10:37 AM

The force is strong!(despite Brexit)

Brought to you by Guido

https://order-order.com/2020/01/30/getting-brexit-done-confidence-surging/

"As we approach the greatest day in our history, we must not forget the impact of the #FBPE cult,

Alistair Campbell, Andrew Adonis, Anna Soubry, Dominic Grieve, Femi Olawala, A C Grayling, People's Vote UK et al,

Their inability to accept democracy and their ridiculous arguments #GotBrexitDone. Thank you."


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 10:43 AM

Good to see Becky Long-Bailey on the ticket. But I'm extremely worried about her campaign. I've heard rumours of fallings-out among her campaign team, and her website is shambolic: after ten minutes I gave up trying to find out anything about the leadership campaign!! We need a firm, organised leader who can get a grip. This has got to change. See if you can pass anything on, Dave!


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 10:44 AM

He's not all bad, John. He's a dog-lover after all... ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 10:52 AM

Yep - I’ve always seen Bonz’s love of dogs as his saving grace. Perhaps he’s go two saving graces?


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 10:53 AM

GOT! :-(


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Iains
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 10:58 AM

We need a firm, organised leader who can get a grip.

As my old Mum used to say: "I wants never gets!"

There is a song that fits: "Dream the impossible dream"


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 11:18 AM

Bonz is alrightish for a right winger..

he's into 1960s rock music and electric guitars...
and he's got a provocative punk attitude I can identify with...


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Raggytash
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 01:12 PM

And so the 'fun and games' begin.

Now we will hear squeals that the EU is being unfair, unreasonable etc etc.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/30/uk-businesses-to-face-extra-checks-at-borders-under-pms-brexit-plans


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: DMcG
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 01:42 PM

I see the US is insisting that that the lower food standards (as exemplified by but not limited to the infamous chlorinated chicken) must be part of the trade deal, while Rabb and Johnson insist in will not be.

So it will be, then.

(Before anyone says, it is not to do with chlorinated chicken is or is not safe: if you demonstrated it was safe, that still leaves all the other differing standards, so don't bother thinking that is all about chicken. In any case, wasn't it all about taking back control so if we say 'no', that is what happens … isn't it?)


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 01:49 PM

I'll see if the Daughter in law will have a word, Steve. Son #w, said D-I-Ls spouse, is into computer stuff. Maybe he can help :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Iains
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 01:59 PM

Only remainiacs squeal as you very well know. We brexiteers are made of sterner stuff. Perhaps it is the girlie hormones in the Guardian ink that makes you squeal.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Rain Dog
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 02:19 PM

I see the level of 'debate' gets higher and higher.

It is a case of wait and see. A lot will have to be worked out between now and the end of the year. No doubt the truth will lie somewhere 'some' of the remainers darkness and glood, and some of the leavers sweetness and life.

Until then we will have endless speculation no doubt.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 02:22 PM

Well.. if we must enjoy watching a punch up between tory remainers, and right wing brexiteers..

I'll put my money on bonzo..

..ermm.. if I had any.. and if i was a betting bloke..


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 30 Jan 20 - 04:16 PM

Looks like the promises are starting to be broken already. Humpty-Dumpty asking all departments to come up with expenditure cuts, despite having declared a few months ago that ‘austerity is over’.

One thing you can always trust a Tory to do, is tell lies.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Iains
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 03:48 AM

": 'Be pleased to inform Her Majesty that the European flag will no longer flies alongside the Union Flag above Westminster.
God Save the Queen."


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: DMcG
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 04:10 AM

It is striking that some leave supporters care a lot about symbolism, like passport colours or whether a flag is flown, but when asked whether the government (which has "taken back control") says "no" to lowering the food standards will stick to it, they have nothing to say.

Will they stick to "No" on this, do you think?


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Iains
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 04:18 AM

Talking of symbolism, the last cabinet meeting prior to brexit will take place oop north in Sunderland – famously the first place on the 23rd June to vote leave. Sunderland Council will light up buildings in red, white and blue…

There are flood warnings in place for remainer salt tears!


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Iains
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 04:45 AM

Ode to project fear!

Dame Vera Lyn


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 05:42 AM

With the lowering of food standards I would have thought that "Whale meat again" would be far more apt :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 06:32 AM

Reminds me of the Tesco horse meat scandal, in which someone concocted a photo of a horse sitting on the self-service till with the message "unexpected item in the bagging area" :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 06:43 AM

It was highly amusing to see ‘Wiggy’ Neill on Politics Live yesterday, making mincemeat of the Tory Clown over our leaving the Common Fisheries Policy. The more Wiggy proved he was talking shite, the harder he tried to make his shite sound like truth! Poor, deluded fool - hilarious!


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 07:08 AM

Remainiacs and exiteers could not have seen a global pandemic coming but the fictional suspense novel 'Beach of Immunity' brings to life the story of the Immune Island of Britain as the last harbinger of life for humans. .. until Volume 2 https://www.abebooks.com/first-edition/Breach-Immunity-Hite-Molly-Saint-Martins/3051087042/bd
:^)


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 07:24 AM

Lots of truth here in the New Statesman.

I sincerely hope I live long enough to tell the brainwashed, malleable minority of the U.K. population who were persuaded by a tiny number of immensely-wealthy, immensely-powerful people to vote for this tragedy that “I told you so”.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 08:37 AM

Ann Widdecombe has just said this is one of the best days of her life..

Well.. she's never had a wedding day, or given birth, and is possibly still a virgin;
and she adheres to strict religious views on life and pleasure..

So she's not exactly a 'normal' women who's judgement of what constitutes a "best day"
has much in common with most other folks...

Still, who's to deny her what little she does find to celebrate in her quirky restricted life...


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Iains
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 10:02 AM

I see the remainiacs are still trying to spin the idea that a minority voted for brexit.
Funny that Brexit was won then, is it not?

The luddite labourites and adherants to cult corbyn insist they won the argument. What a quaint idea!
However we won the election and that is the only thing that counts.
Prior to the election Chris Curtis, the political research director at YouGov, the UK's biggest pollster, summed it up:

    "The chances of the Labour Party getting a majority are about as close to zero as it's possible to get."
Ipsos Mori found only 16 per cent of voters were satisfied with Mr Corbyn's performance, compared with 76 per cent who were dissatisfied.

That made him the most unpopular opposition leader since Ipsos Mori began polling 45 years ago.

Former Labour leader Michael Foot had an approval score of -56 in 1982 — a year before he lost in a landslide to Margaret Thatcher.

and now the wallys are about to elect a corbyn clone as leader.
Talk about turkeys voting for christmas! 'Tis a joy to watch.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 10:16 AM

Antisocial buffoons can gloat as much as they like about winning an election.
It's keeping the electorate on side
and winning the next one that really matters..

Unless they intend using their newly grasped power in attempt to dismantle democracy,
and install themselves as leaders of a permanent one party state...???


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Iains
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 11:26 AM

Unless they intend using their newly grasped power in attempt to dismantle democracy,
What utter nonsense!
Find yourself a proper opposition party if you do not like what is on offer. Giving support to a party hellbent on suicide, and then talking about the party in power dismantling democracy by grasping power shows a woeful lack of grip on reality.
How can a party be accused of grasping power when they won a majority in a lawful election?
The only people that could legitimately be accused of dismantling democracy are remainiacs and labour. Their antics, aided and abetted by the treacherous speaker are a matter of public record. Theyt frustrated breixit from June 2016 until December 2019, when the electirate had their say.
and we all know how that turned out, don't we?

Democracy restored on the 12Dec.
followed by
Sovereignty restored 31st January

Isn't it great to be british and a brexiteer?


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 11:46 AM

That took you over an hour to assemble
from your go-to kit of prefab right wing rhetoric phrases and sound bites..

At least it keeps you occupied and give you some purpose in life...

I'll do what I can to help sad folks, I'm nice like that...


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 11:55 AM

It's funny how some people keep reliving past events. It's almost as if they want to derail any discussion on the failings of the present administration.


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 12:01 PM

"Isn't it great to be British and a brexiteer?"


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 12:51 PM

THE FRENCH BREXIT SONG


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Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 01:11 PM

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