BS: UK politics

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Iains
Date: 13 Feb 20 - 02:44 PM

Meanwhile Labour is spiralling into its death throes. The leadership hopefuls will have scratched each others eyes out by the time April arrives. Interesting the voting closes on April 2nd. Voting on the first would have been far more appropriate.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Feb 20 - 03:36 PM

Don't pretend to be so naive, Nigel. It is obvious who is pulling Boris's strings. Javid himself pointed the finger at Cummings. And I would rather have any amount of Backwoodsman's language than your deflections any day.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Feb 20 - 03:46 PM

Dismissing someone as not serious because of using a few swear words
is an age old tory stand by trick to weasel out of difficult uncomfortable conversations...

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 13 Feb 20 - 05:46 PM

”Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Nigel Parsons - PM
Date: 13 Feb 20 - 01:38 PM

From: Backwoodsman
Date: 13 Feb 20 - 01:32 PM
Even more interesting news, Dave - it’s all here!

If you want to be taken seriously:
a, moderate your language
b, don't link to 'spoof' websites.”

Re: b. - yes, I knew it was a ‘spoof’ website. It was humour - something you seem to possess very little of.

Re: a. - I will post anything I choose. You are not a Forum Moderator, and you have no authority to tell anyone else what they may or may not say. So fuck off and mind your own fucking business, you pompous wank-puffin.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Feb 20 - 05:53 PM

And you don't think that I knew the rest of the story, Nige? I posted the bloody thing to leaven the heavy dough here for chrissake, you twit. Get a life, why don't you.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Gervase
Date: 13 Feb 20 - 06:32 PM

Goodness. I couldn't face scrolling through the whole thread, but just the name made my heart sink. And as I post I can see the last two posts above mine and the heart sinks further. What the hell has happened to this place?

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Feb 20 - 07:18 PM

Same as it ever was, mate. There never has been a golden era. Max was pleading with the forum to bloody behave as far back as 2002.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Iains
Date: 14 Feb 20 - 03:58 AM

It seems Bojo's fixer had a spiffing day yesterday. He did tell the spads last week "I will see half of you this week."
He jesteth not!

Will 5 bellies make it through to the second round in the Labour immolation contest?

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Feb 20 - 05:51 AM

"Will 5 bellies make it through to the second round in the Labour immolation contest?"

Why don't you post a photo of yourself so that we can all take the piss out of YOU?

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Feb 20 - 06:43 AM

We don't need a picture. Steve :-)

Nigel. Just for you in case you want to pretend this was anything other than a hatchet job

Sajid fury over PM knifing

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Iains
Date: 14 Feb 20 - 06:54 AM

Hardly a hatchet job, the bounder had gone rogue with his leaked crazy proposals.
and for those that know nuffink:

The First Lord of the Treasury is the head of the commission exercising the ancient office of Lord High Treasurer in the United Kingdom, and is by convention also the Prime Minister.

There ya go! Boris is boss and it's his way or the highway, and he is ably assisted by the chief spad Mr Cummins.(master of the dark arts)

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 14 Feb 20 - 09:16 AM

First Official Photo of Johnson’s re-shuffled Cabinet. ‘Andsome bunch aren’t they?

Note for Nitpickers: Yes, I’m fully aware it’s a spoof - FFS grow a sense of humour!

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 14 Feb 20 - 09:37 AM

But how are we supposed to tell present day tory reality from spoof these days...???

At least back in the era of the classic TV satire Spitting Image
we knew which ones were the puppets...

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 14 Feb 20 - 11:09 AM

They’re all puppets now, pfr. Dom & Dumber have made sure of that.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 14 Feb 20 - 11:21 AM

.. and how much longer now before the new Tory government starts wearing military style uniforms...???

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Feb 20 - 04:45 AM

This bright brexiteer makes you proud to be British :-)

On a more serious note, I suspect this will be one of millions of "Not the brexit I voted for" comments :-(

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Iains
Date: 15 Feb 20 - 05:20 AM

and 5 bellies fell at the last hurdle - too much mass get over and not linber enough to limbo under.
So now it is down to the alien, the false night and the flagbearer for cleaning out labour antisemitism. They all seem to have as much charisma as magic grandad !

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: DMcG
Date: 15 Feb 20 - 05:21 AM

Mulling over some thoughts this morning to cheer myself up. It was a manifesto commitment for both the Conservatives and Labour to get rid of the Fixed Term Parliament Act. So this will happen. The question really is whether the Act is simply declared null and void, or if it is replaced by something else defining the methods of bringing a session to a close. I think that more likely.

Quoting from one site:
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With one exception, all previous parliaments ended when the crown or the government chose, the only constraints being the 1694 Triennial Act, the 1716 Septennial Act, and the 1911 Parliament Act, which decreed that fresh elections must be held at least every three, seven or five years respectively. The five-year rule was suspended during the two World Wars, but has otherwise been respected for more than a century.

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So it is certainly possible that the replacement act leaves open a much longer, or even indefinite, duration for Parliamentary sessions. I would not expect any such extension to be explicit, but I could see sufficient loopholes being left to have that effect.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 15 Feb 20 - 05:31 AM

Mrs. Backwoodsperson works for a company whose European HQ is in Rotterdam, and she travels frequently to their HQ via Schiphol. She says nothing’s changed, holders of British passports, including the ‘new’ non-EU British passports (she has one, but it’s not blue, they’re still the same dark red colour as the ‘old’ EU-British passports) still use the ‘EU’ lanes. She says that, during the five or six years she’s been doing the Schiphol run, and during busy periods, the EU lanes have always been very busy and have involved queueing.

I really am wondering exactly what ‘kind of Brexit’ that bonehead in the linked piece did vote for. And, of course, if he wasn’t in the ‘EU and certain other nationalities’ lane, he has nobody to blame but himself.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 15 Feb 20 - 05:57 AM

Please don't delete the 05.20 AM post, mods. It will be useful to refer back to when this hypocrite burbles on about how we insult him. For your information, The post refers to Emily Thornberry, a Labour politician who is of ample proportions and who is a thoroughly decent lady.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Feb 20 - 06:10 AM

It's not even as it it is original. Remember Gazza's mate, Jimmy Gardner?

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 15 Feb 20 - 10:44 AM

We used to call a fellow postgrad at teacher training college "Five Holes." I never did discover why, though he was a bit earnest and full of himself.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 15 Feb 20 - 01:04 PM

two Jags / Jabs.. [not enough of his kind left anymore..]

one Bollock.. [an infamous German leader admired by furthest right tories..]...

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: DMcG
Date: 17 Feb 20 - 02:35 AM

Compulsory contraception, Eugenics, and stop worrying so much about FGM

Quite a lot in the press about this new guy just appointed to work for Dominic Cummings and currently working on "some" government projects.

Sounds a really lovable chap.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 17 Feb 20 - 03:51 AM

Oh, I’m sure there will be one or two regulars here shortly to tell us he’s a wonderful fellow, DMcG.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Iains
Date: 17 Feb 20 - 05:16 AM

With an 80 seat majority in the house the tories can totally disregard the perpetually whining lefties. Labour are powerless.
Isn't that wonderful?

If you wish to condemn spads perhaps you should look at Labour's former master of the dark arts. Alastair Campbell was Bliar Blair's Director of Communications and Strategy,

He was the one who released the dody dossier and outed Dr Kelly.
How many deaths are on his conscience?

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Feb 20 - 05:26 AM

Why bring the Al Fayeds into this?

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: DMcG
Date: 17 Feb 20 - 06:10 AM

Which has no relevance to whether you agree with the new advisor or not, does it Iains?

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 17 Feb 20 - 10:40 AM

If trapped in a sticky spot in a discussion,
bring up anything that comes to mind the opposition did anytime in the last half century..
Then make quick getaway...

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btw.. links to the Indy are no use while they nag about my ad blocker, any alternatives...???

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: DMcG
Date: 17 Feb 20 - 10:55 AM

The same story on 'The Mirror'

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 17 Feb 20 - 11:00 AM

”One government special adviser told BuzzFeed News: “Hiring this imbecile is an insult to those who came before, which is a minor point I know, but jesus wept it makes me ashamed.”

Birds of a feather, yadda yadda....

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 17 Feb 20 - 11:03 AM

DMcG - cheers...

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 17 Feb 20 - 11:12 AM

"Dominic Cummings' called for “misfits and weirdos”"

A devious strategy for sneaking in ukippers and much worse
through the back doors and windows of tory Government...

Actually, come to think of it, I'm a misfit and weirdo
[and there's plenty more of us on the margins of the left..]..

Any chance of a few hours lucrative weekly work from home,
or am I the wrong sort of misfit weirdo...???

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: peteglasgow
Date: 17 Feb 20 - 01:16 PM

get in there pfj. personally, since seeing the headline 'workington man to decide the election' i've been waiting for them to ask me for my decision. still waiting - something must have gone wrong as our mp is now an ex bnp -ex ukip-tory eejit and well-known local thug. it's supposed to be a green, socialist, scottish alliance with caroline lucas as pm. i'm sure we'll get it sorted soon. i guess we must still be in the EU as the nhs is still in financial crisis.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: DMcG
Date: 17 Feb 20 - 05:03 PM

Well the 'superforecaster' we were discussing has quit, even before everyone had a chance to say if they agreed with him or not. But never fear, he is still saying the only reason he quit (or was he pushed?) was because his views were a distraction from the government, not that they were in any way wrong.

So we can still hear from our regulars if they agree with him.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: peteglasgow
Date: 19 Feb 20 - 10:55 AM

i put the radio on yesterday morning and first thing i heard was a government voice saying 'we will not submit to EU regulations' submit eh? what eejits - why not co-operate with people who are good allies and our biggest trade partners? what is it with all this shitty old war nonsense? anyway, i just turned the radio off and got through the day -again - trying to avoid all this hideousness. doesn't matter how dumb or deceitful they are - that's us stuck with this for 5 more years at least. blame corbyn as much as you like - i do- but how can we ever do anything about the forelock-tugging turnip third of the country who will vote for these wreckers whatever happens?

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 19 Feb 20 - 12:03 PM

”but how can we ever do anything about the forelock-tugging turnip third of the country who will vote for these wreckers whatever happens?”

No idea, Workie. But not to worry, with any luck our resident forelock-tugging turnip troll will be along shortly to tell us.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 19 Feb 20 - 12:54 PM

Wouldn’t it be a delicious irony If only it were true?

Note for forelock-tugging turnip nit-pickers - yes, I know it’s a spoof website, that’s the point, it’s a joke!

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 19 Feb 20 - 12:56 PM

"Mr Sabisky accused the media of "selective quoting" and "hysteria"..

.."I know this will disappoint a lot of people but I signed up to do real work,
not be in the middle of a giant character assassination," Mr Sabisky added."

Tuff shit Sabisky..

Your despicable gang of guido worshipping smearers can dish it out a plenty,
but you can't take it yourself.. Little cry baby...!!!

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Iains
Date: 20 Feb 20 - 11:48 AM

TONY BLAIR has revealed he supports Prime Minister Boris Johnson on his Brexit plans as the former Labour leader said the party should forget about campaigning to rejoin the EU.
Who would have believed it? Even bliar blair is deserting the corbynated clowns that are labour.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1244905/tony-blair-news-brexit-news-boris-johnson-EU-latest-speech-video
Latest reports also suggest the pocket napoleon and merkel are having a hissyfit over the blackhole that is funding.
How very sad!
I wonder what they will do with all that champagne and fleets of mercs. when we crash out. The Elgin marbles was a step too far!

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: peteglasgow
Date: 21 Feb 20 - 03:21 AM

what are the conservative party conserving these days - all looks anarchic to me. and for what again?

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 21 Feb 20 - 03:38 AM

”what are the conservative party conserving these days”

As always, they are conserving their own wealth at the expense of the less-wealthy. That’s what conservatism is - the upward flow of wealth, from the less-wealthy to the more-wealthy. That’s precisely what Conservative policies are designed to promote and maintain.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Iains
Date: 21 Feb 20 - 04:04 AM

The conservatives have policies they are fast implemnting.
What does Labour offer, apart from a "wishlist" making them totally unelectable?

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Feb 20 - 05:21 AM

I must say that the new rules on UK politics threads seem to be working. Apart from the occasional right wing fart, which I'm glad to say everyone ignores, the air is far cleaner nowadays:-+)

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Iains
Date: 21 Feb 20 - 05:24 AM

Has the goblin popped up for a troll? A meaningful contribution is obviously beyond his capabilities

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 Feb 20 - 05:29 AM

A policy that they are fast implementing and which they are fast going to have to backtrack on is the immigration policy, fronted by that obnoxious, dishonest, shallow and smug woman Patel. Just wait until the whole care system collapses... Bloody racist Tory claptrap.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: DMcG
Date: 21 Feb 20 - 05:46 AM

I hear they have flown in 100 Filipino nurses today to cover a shortfall. That won't be possible next year.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 21 Feb 20 - 06:31 AM

Having spent a total of around a year in hospital since 2006, I can safely say that some of the hardest-working, most caring, and straight-up nicest nurses I’ve had the pleasure of being cared for by have been those from south-east Asia and the Pacific. One called Ela from, IIRC, the Philippines, and another whose name I forget who came here from The Solomon Islands were absolutely fantastic.

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 21 Feb 20 - 09:43 AM

So from now on UK unemployed and school leavers will definitely be coerced
into minimum wage shit prospect jobs
or mickey mouse training schemes,
without any pretense that that they have a free choice or real career development...???

.. and tory PR spin will make it all sound like a wonderful opportunity all round...

At least thatcher's govt inadvertently ran some genuinely useful unemployment schemes
like community programme and enterprise allowance,
which enabled motivated individuals to retain some autonomy and independent control
over their own career development choices..

Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
From: BobL
Date: 22 Feb 20 - 02:23 AM

Thatcher's govt also steered us away from coal, thirty years ahead of everyone else...