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Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs
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My Last Cigarette
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Irene M Date: 16 Nov 07 - 11:07 AM Two songs come to mind. Robb Thompson wrote one, which I think Proper Little Madams sang, the only line of which I can recall is: "They wave their obscene cancer sticks around my house and when they've gone, for several days the putrid perfume lingers on". [People Who Smoke] Peggy Seeger also has a corker of a song [It's a Free World] about getting her own back on smokers (by farting in their company). |
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Subject: Lyr Add: CRIME AND PUNISHMENT (Davie Robertson) From: jacko@nz Date: 15 Nov 07 - 06:52 PM I doubt that Davie Robertsons' humour is to everyone's taste but his observations of the human condition appeal to me. Crime and Punishment Saint Peter stood at heaven's gate tae vet the newly deid Wi snaw white goonie, muckle beard, and a halo roond his heid A wheen o new arrivals stood and trembled at his gaze And bitterly repented o the error o their ways First came a serial killer wha had terrorised the nation By subjectin auld age pensioners tae rape and strangulation "Come in ma lad" Saint Peter said "Yer sins are gey bad seemin But we'll no deny ye entry ower a puckle daft auld weemin" Next came an evil junkie whae presumed his hopes was nil For he yuis tae deal in heroin tae wee bairns at the skuil "Come ma lad, ye're no that bad. Even for your kind there's hope. An we'll no deny ye entry ower a wee bit toot o dope" Next came a gambler, a' his life he Lady Luck had served He had squandered a' his fortune while his wife and children sterved "Come in ma lad yer no that bad, come in an' meet yer buddies An we'll no deny ye entry ower a flutter on the cuddies" Next came a hopeless drunkard whae stood clamourin tae get in As he pished against the gatepost, he splashed Saint Peter's shuin The saint whipped oot a snaw-white cloot and dichted off his feet "Come in" he says "but when next ye pee, there's a gents just up the street" Next came a pervert lewd and vile, wi tastes base and perverse His een lit up an lingered on a passin cherub's erse "Come in ma lad, yer no that bad, oor love is wide and deep An we'll overlook yer escapades wi Fettes boys and sheep" So yin by yin they a moved up an forrit tae the gate Thieves, muggers, rapists, murderers, they hadnae long tae wait They never thocht in a' their days that they would be sae lucky For it seemed the celestial gatekeeper wisnae botherin his buckie Last came a fine upstanding chap in clean white shirt and tie Sic a paragon o virtue seldom met Saint Peter's eye Nae shame or blame had stained his name in a' his long life story The gate swung wide, he stepped inside, intae eternal glory Then sounded forth a michty voice that spoke wi awesome thunder "Haud on the noo, this will not do, there's been a serious blunder Send him tae Hell, where he'll serve well, employed as Satan's stoker Nae room I fear, for him in here. That bastard is a smoker" Jack |
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Subject: Lyr Add: NICOTINE BLUES (Martin Winsor) From: Newport Boy Date: 15 Nov 07 - 05:55 PM I'm not sure this is an anti-smoking song, but I think a detect a slight note of regret. Nicotine Blues, by Martin Winsor (about 1960) I wake up in the morning no damn good I lie there in the bed just like a block of wood I fumble for the matches, light that morning fag There ain't nothing like that first sweet drag Chorus Nicotine, nicotine I'm just a slave to that nicotine You can keep your liquor and your Benzedrine I'm just a slave to that nicotine About every hour or so I get that yen Gotta stop everything and have a smoke again Looks like I was born the type That just lays around and smokes my pipe Some folks like that old Virginia grown Smoke tailor-mades or they roll their own You can do what you like to that Indian weed Me, I would even chew the seed Don't go much on that old opium Hashish only leaves me feeling numb But if you want to see me swing on a star Feed me up with a fat cigar Every night before I go to bed A certain thought passes through my head I know it's no use my counting sheep If I don't have a smoke I just can't sleep. I can't remember where I got this from, but I noted it down about 1961. Phil |
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Subject: Lyr Add: SMOKE SMOKE SMOKE THAT CIGARETTE From: topical tom Date: 15 Nov 07 - 04:51 PM Jimmy Dean SMOKE SMOKE SMOKE THAT CIGARETTE Merle Travis/Tex Ritter 1. Now I'm a fella with a heart of gold, With the ways of a gentleman, I've been told, A kind of a guy that wouldn't even harm a flea. But if me and a certain character met, The guy that invented the cigarette, I'd murder that son of a gun in the first degree. 2. It ain't that I don't smoke myself, And I don't reckon they'll hinder your health. I've smoked them all my life and I ain't dead yet. But nicotine slaves are all the same. At a pettin' party or a poker game, Everythin's gotta stop while you have that cigarette. CHORUS: Smoke, smoke, smoke that cigarette. Puff, puff, puff and if you smoke yourself to death, Tell St Peter at the Golden Gate That you hate to make him wait But you just gotta have another cigarette. 3. Now at a game of chance the other night, Ol' Dame Fortune was a doin' me right. The kings and queens just kept on comin' round. And I got a full and I betted high, But my bluff didn't work on a certain guy. He just kept a risin' and layin' his money down. 4. He'd raise me and I'd raise him, And I sweated blood. You gotta sink or swim. He finally called and he couldn't raise the bet. I said, "Aces full, pal. How about you?" He said, "I'll tell you in a minute or two, But right now I just gotta have another cigarette." Smoke smoke smoke... [ piano ] 5. Now the other night I had me a date With the cutest little gal in the fifty states, One of them high-bred up-town fancy little dames. She said she loved me and it seemed to me That things were just about like they oughta be, So hand in hand we strolled down Lover's Lane. 6. She was oh so far from a chunk of ice, And our smoochin' party was a goin' real nice, So help me Hannah, and I think I'd of been there yet. I give her a kiss and a little squeeze, And she said, "Would you excuse me, please? But I just gotta have another cigarette." Smoke smoke smoke... X 2 You just gotta have another cigarette |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: GUEST,Ted Hazen Date: 15 Nov 07 - 12:49 PM Pootwaddle Cigarettes Spike Jones, sung by Doodles Weaver. Tthis was years before the Surgeon General's report! Does anyone know the words? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Mark H. Date: 29 Aug 07 - 06:47 AM Who can forget the B-side of Rolf Harris's "Tie Me Kangaroo Down"? "Of course," you cry as one, "Nick Teen and Al K. Hall!" |
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Subject: Lyr Add: NON-SMOKING SECTION (Bob Kanefsky) From: Joe_F Date: 28 Aug 07 - 09:17 PM Non-Smoking Section This parody was sung by Leslie Fish on Tapeworm 2 Parody of "Mount Tam", words and music by Leslie Fish For more information and other parodies, see www.songworm.com Parody lyrics ©2/23/89 by Bob Kanefsky. All rights reserved. The copyright of the original lyrics and music remain with the holder(s) of the original copyright. Here I sit at the front of the plane. Might as well be a freeway lane Or the depths of a chimney stack. The flight is smooth, but the air is gray With the breath of the smokers that drifts my way From the seats just a few rows back. Chorus: So if there be any on board Who must light up in the short duration of the flight, Then for the short duration of the flight, Please step outside. Pressure's low, so the cabin's sealed. The filters get more than they can field; And here is a noxious cloud. Its tendrils run through the intake duct To the maze of vents where the air is sucked And supplied to the front-row crowd. (Refrain) Studies show that recycled smoke Makes smoking sections a useless joke: The whole cabin space will fill. The blood and urine of those who refrain Show nicotine from the back of the plane Invading their bodies, still. (Refrain) We who need to travel by air Find ourselves in the dragon's lair Of a vice that we did not choose. They'll wreck their bodies, and that's just fine, But the grave they're digging should not be mine, Nor the kids', nor the cabin crew's. (Refrain) |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Dave the Gnome Date: 28 Aug 07 - 07:00 PM Chris, And before anyone comes back and says that smokers are causing non smokers to inhale the smoke, you might want to consider that smokers had pubs etc. before the people demanded that smoking places be given up for non smokers. , what a load of bollocks. Show me that smokers were in pubs before non-smokers and I will show my arse from Blackpool tower. Pubs - At least 2000 years that we know of. The Romans found them in existance when they came here - so longer than that realy. Tobacco smoke? Any want to give me an accurate date? Mmmmm. Maybe Walter Raleigh? Maybe pubs had 'smoking rooms' in my Grandads day as well, showing that smokers had not always been the selfish ignorant gits that they are today. And why anyone thinks that justifying one anti-social act by saying that there are some worse is beyond me. Yeh, OK. Lets bring back bear baiting and cock fighting. Lets de-criminalise rape and child abuse. After all, driving a car is FAR worse! For heavens sake... Dave |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: robinia Date: 28 Aug 07 - 11:46 AM I think the Smoking Song on Seeger and Scott's "No Spring Chickens" (1992) qualifies. Has anyone mentioned it? |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THINK & SMOKE TOBACCO From: Jim Dixon Date: 27 Jul 07 - 06:44 PM Another version of the one lamarca posted above, from The Lester S. Levy Collection of Sheet Music (which web site, by the way, has been redesigned recently): "A Favorite Old Song on Mortality, THINK & SMOKE TOBACCO Made agreeable & pleasing to all Classes, from the King to the Beggar." Boston : John Ashton & Co., 1836 1. This Indian weed now wither'd quite, Though green at noon, cut down at night. Shows thy decay: All flesh is hay; Thus think and smoke Tobacco. 2. The pipe so lily-like and weak, Does thus thy mortal state bespeak, Thou art even such; Gone with a touch; Thus think and smoke Tobacco. 3. And when the smoke ascends on high, Then thou behold'st the vanity Of worldly stuff, Gone with a puff; Thus think and smoke Tobacco. 4. And when the pipe grows foul within, Think on thy soul defiled with sin; For then the fire It does require; Thus think and smoke Tobacco. 5. And see'st the ashes cast away, Then to thyself thou may'st say That to the dust, Return thou must; Thus think and smoke Tobacco. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Jim Dixon Date: 27 Jul 07 - 06:21 PM Reminds me…I once had a dream about my deceased father-in-law. In my dream, he was on furlough from Heaven (or wherever). We (I, my wife, and my mother-in-law) had an appointment to meet him in an outdoor restaurant. When we arrived, he was already seated at a table, chatting with a friend, having a drink, and smoking a cigarette. (In real life, he had quit smoking many years before his death.) My wife, seeing him, was shocked. "Dad! What are you doing?" "Hey, it's OK," he answered. "I'm already dead." |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Artful Codger Date: 27 Jul 07 - 02:36 PM Hmm, according to "Big Rock Candy Mountain", there are cigarette trees in heaven. The Bible is strangely silent on this subject, presumably to allow theologians to debate whether there is indeed tobacco in heaven, and if so, how many angels can dance on a filter-tip. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: WHERE TOBACCO IS NOT From: Jim Dixon Date: 27 Jul 07 - 08:39 AM The Lester S. Levy Collection of Sheet Music WHERE TOBACCO IS NOT Words, M. P. Hayden. Music, Antoinette Choate. Boston: White-Smith Music Publishing Co., 1890. 1. Tell me, ye winged winds, that soar my pathway round, Do ye not know some spot where tobacco is not found? Some lone and pleasant dell, some valley in the west, Where free from tobacco smell, the weary soul may rest? The loud wind dwindled to a whisper low, And sighed in pity as it answered, "No!" 2. Tell me, thou mighty deep, whose billows round me play, Know'st thou some favored spot, some island far away, Where stifled man may find the bliss for which he pants: Freedom from fumes and juice of all narcotic plants? The loud waves rolled in perpetual flow, In deep bass voice resounded sadly, "No!" 3. And thou, serenest moon, that with such holy face, Dost look upon the earth, asleep in night's embrace, Tell me, in all thy round, has thou not seen some store Where fine cut, cigarettes, cigars are sold no more? Behind a cloud the moon withdrew her face, And grieved, she slyly answered, "Nary a place!" 4. Tell me, my ransomed soul, sustained by hope and faith, Is there no hiding place from juice and smoke and breath Of vile tobacco dire; is there no happy spot Where 'mid superior joys, tobacco be forgot? Faith, hope and love, best boon to mortals given, Flapped their bright wings and shouted, "Yes, in heav'n!" |
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Subject: Lyr Add: ON THE BREWING OF SOMA (J G Whittier) From: Nigel Parsons Date: 25 Jul 07 - 02:51 PM Not exactly anti-smoking, but anti-drug. How many will recognise (before the last six verses) J G Whittier's: On the Brewing of Soma The fagots blazed, the caldron's smoke Up through the green wood curled; "Bring honey from the hollow oak, Brink milky sap," the brewers spoke, In the childhood of the world. And brewed they well or brewed they ill, The priests thrust in their rods, First tasted, and then drank their fill, And shouted, with one voice and will, "Behold, the drink of the gods!" They drank, and lo! in heart and brain A new, glad life began; They grew of hair grew young again, The sick man laughed away his pain, The cripple leaped and ran. "Drink, mortals, what the gods have sent, Forget you long annoy." So sang the priests, From tent to tent The Soma's sacred madness went, A storm of drunken joy. Then knew each rapt inebriate A winged and glorious birth, Soared upward, with strange joy elate, Beat, with dazed head, Varuna's gate, And sobered, sank to earth. The land with Soma's praises rang; On Gihon's banks of shade Its hymns the dusky maidens sang; In joy of life or mortal pang All men to Soma prayed. The morning twilight of the race Sends down these matin psalms; And still with wondering eyes we trace The simple prayers to Soma's grace, That verdic verse embalms. As in the child-world's early year, Each after age has striven By music, incense, vigils drear, And trance, to bring the skies more near, Or life men up to heaven! Some fever of the blood and brain, Some self-exalting spell, The scourger's keen delight of pain, the Dervish dance, the Orphic strain, The wild-haired Bacchant's yell, - The desert's hair-grown hermit sunk The saner brute below; The naked Santon, haschish-drunk, The cloister madness of the monk, The fakir's torture show! And yet the past comes round again, And new doth old fulfill; In sensual transports wild as vain We brew in many a Christian fane The heathen Soma still! Dear Lord and Father of mankind, Forgive our foolish ways! Reclothe us in our rightful mind, In purer lives Thy service find, In deeper reverence, praise. In simple trust like theirs who heard Beside the Syrian sea The gracious calling of the Lord, Let us, like them, without a word Rise up and follow Thee. O Sabbath rest by Galilee! O calm of hills above, Where Jesus knelt to share with Thee The silence of eternity Interpreted by love! With that deep hush subduing all Our words and works that drown The tender whisper of Thy call, And noiseless let Thy blessing fall As fell Thy manna down. Drop thy still dews of quietness, Till all our strivings cease; Take from our souls the strain and stress, And let our ordered lives confess Thy beauty of Thy peace. Breathe through the hearts of our desire Thy coolness and Thy balm; Let sense be numb, let flesh retire; Speak through the earthquake, wind, and fire, O still, small voice of calm! CHEERS! Nigel |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: GUEST Date: 25 Jul 07 - 03:27 AM Chris, If it's wrong to stay at home and give your children lung cancer, why is it right to go down to the pub and infect strangers? Of course, us non-smokers could give up drinking (and in my case, listening to great music) by staying at home so that smokers can continue to foul up the atmosphere. We've had the ban in Ireland for several years now; no holocaust yet, and my asthmatic neighbour, who likes a drink, can now join us in the pub. Long live the do-gooders (even longer - now that we don't all run the risk of having their lungs turned into lace curtains and going home smelling of other people's dirty habits). Jim Carroll PS I've never heard the 'squatter's rights' on pubs argument before - bit pathetic really! |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Artful Codger Date: 25 Jul 07 - 03:01 AM Ah yes, banning smoking in public will irreparably rend the social fabric and lead to anarchy, mayhem and the second coming. ;-} |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: GUEST,chris Date: 24 Jul 07 - 09:39 AM I wonder how many smokers will now stay at home and increase the smoke content of their house- the houses with their children in and how many will go out into the beer gardens to smoke-where children may be. The people who know what is best for us i.e. the ones who work to take away an individuals right will move onto banning cars and alcohol both very serious killers in their own way. And before anyone comes back and says that smokers are causing non smokers to inhale the smoke, you might want to consider that smokers had pubs etc. before the people demanded that smoking places be given up for non smokers. This was so much easier than going and creating their own non smoking places. Always steal from someone else rather than do anything active yourselves. Again, to get in first I was a heavy smoker for26 years and have given up for 30 years. I just don't like peoples rights stolen by do-gooders who know whats best for everyone else. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: GIRL FROM EMPHYSEMA (parody, Steve Allen) From: cetmst Date: 24 Jul 07 - 07:33 AM At a concert we attended the late Steve Allen sang a parody of "The Girl from Ipamena" and wrote it down for us afterward: Tall and pale and light and chalky, The girl from Emphysema goes walking, And when she passes, each one she passes Goes (wheezing, coughing). She should stop smoking, that's her solution But she contributes to air pollution, And when she passes, through noxious gasses It's (Wheezing, coughing). Oh how she's coughing and sneezing; Oh how she's hacking and wheezing; So, she's not really so pleasing. Once there were nights when we kissed, Now she lives in a primatine mist. Tall and pale and weak and sickly, Those girls with emphysema go quickly, And when she passes/ You'll see her lips turning blue, Let the girl with emphysema/ Be a lesson To you. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Artful Codger Date: 23 Jul 07 - 10:11 PM How about that parlor favorite, "Father's a Smoker and Mother Is Dead"? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: GUEST,ibo Date: 23 Jul 07 - 08:54 PM they asked me how i knew smoke was bad for you,whooh whooh i of course replied,milions of us died cos smoke got in our eyes |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: GUEST,Clint Keller Date: 29 Sep 04 - 02:36 AM Don't know if this is pro- or anti-, but it's old -- 1920's or so. Pro, probably. Tobacco is a flthy weed - I like it. It satisfies no earthly need - I like it. It makes you thin, it makes you lean, It takes the hair right off your bean -- It's the worst dam stuff I've eve seen - I like it. Personally, I don't like it. I don't mind if anyone else smokes, but downwind, please. And that goes for that g.d. rank cologne too. There's a button that says "If you promise not to smoke, I promise not to fart." and that's pretty much my view. clint |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Margret RoadKnight Date: 28 Sep 04 - 09:44 PM Check out Don McLean's "Building My Body" |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: dick greenhaus Date: 28 Sep 04 - 01:12 PM The punchline to Sandburg's little gem is: (spoken) "All cigarettes are milder than all other cigarettes" He was singing this a hell of a long time before the 50s'. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: CIGARETTES WILL SPOIL YER LIFE (Sandburg) From: Joe_F Date: 27 Sep 04 - 05:51 PM CIGARETTES WILL SPOIL YER LIFE As recorded by Carl Sandburg on "Songs of America," 1999.
Cigarettes will spoil yer life, |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: GUEST,Frank Hamilton Date: 25 Apr 00 - 03:39 PM Tobacco damages health. As long as this is an individual's choice, then this is a smoker's prerogative. But if smokers endanger the health of people who don't choose it, then it is facism. Frank |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: GUEST,Mrr Date: 25 Apr 00 - 03:02 PM My .02: I used to smoke and would never have quit out of willpower. However, the summer I turned 17, the smoke from tobacco started making me sick. Headaches like butcher knives, nausea, cramps - I mean sick. I spent the entire summer traveling around, looking at colleges and so on, and trying one brand after another in the hopes of finding one I could stomach. Failed. Finally gave my last pack away and haven't smoked tobacco on purpose since. I have more respect for people that quit smoking out of willpower than probably any other group of individuals. That said, it is still the case that tobacco smoke makes me ill. While I recognize any adult's right to make a personal choice to engage in fun and dangerous behavior (I am anti-seat belt and -bike helmet legislation, for instance, though I, personally, wear both and insist my children do), I also strongly feel that it is the responsibility of the adult in question to ensure that their choice remains personal. Thus you have a right to own a gun, you don't have the right to shoot me. You can wear no helmet, but don't sue me when it's my sidewalk your skull impacts. You can smoke, but produce no smoke around me. I won't even let my mom (still 5+ packs/day, over 70, and going strong) smoke in my house. She says, I drive a car, what's the diff? My answer: When I drive my car in your house you can smoke in mine. Wish I knew a song about this - how about Live and Let Die? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Caitrin Date: 24 Apr 00 - 07:46 PM If you smoke or dip or chew, you'd better get your fill, 'cause if tobacco don't get you then anti-smokers will! |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Bugsy Date: 24 Apr 00 - 07:38 PM Try this one: http://www.cantech.net.au/~carneybe/
"Don't say we didn't warn you. Cheers Bugsy |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: GUEST,art Date: 24 Apr 00 - 07:19 PM oops 'twas miriam karlin check out peggy seegers site
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Wavestar Date: 24 Apr 00 - 07:16 PM You know, I know this is going to get me hammered, because it seems like so many addicts will kick down on everything that goes against smoking (not all of them, I know... as with many other people, I have friends who smoke, who all wish they could quit, and who are very considerate of me...) I don't like being around smoke. It's not only 'less than pleasant', as Richard Bridges says, it's very unpleasant - ringing headaches, raspy sore throat, etc. If I'm at a song circle in a pub, I can't sing. I realise my reaction is strong, bordering on allergic. But my point is this: YOU chose to smoke. I respect your right to do that to your own body, etc. Please, by all means, enjoy it. *I* did not chose to smoke. I conciously chose not to smoke. What makes your right to smoke supercede my right not to, and not to have the air around me filled with smoke that makes me sick? If you can tell me that, explain to me why I should not eat in restaurants, go in pubs, or even walk the streets or in the park so that I can avoid your smoke, rather than the consequences going with the ones who made the choices... then I'll stop protesting. Seriously, though - I don't want to offend people. My question is genuine. I like smokers just as much as i like anyone else - I judge people on who they are, not what they ahve hanging out of thier mouths. Well okay, sometimes, but only if it's raw and bloody. I'm not against YOU - just your cigarettes. And I'm not telling you to quit, although I'm sure it would be more healthy, etc. You can make your own choices. I just don't want you making mine. -Jessica, ready to duck and run. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: GUEST,art Date: 24 Apr 00 - 07:02 PM "i'll give up the habit i will even yet when i've had just one more cigarette" sung by sheila hancock in the 60's [My Last Cigarette] |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Caitrin Date: 24 Apr 00 - 06:27 PM Cigars killed my Uncle Bill We knew someday they'd get him He bent down in the street to pick one up And a bus drove by and hit him. --Mike Cross [Tobacco Song] |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: John Evans Date: 24 Apr 00 - 06:17 PM Mmmm, Thanks Trish... Trying to stop drinking - why not make me feel like a leper for smoking, while I'm at it? You're so considerate to addicts here... John |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: GUEST,Trish Date: 24 Apr 00 - 06:06 PM Not really an anti-smoking song, but has anyone got the words of "Hev You Gotta Loight, Boy?" -sung by "The Singing Postman" back in the 60's - he was from the Norfolk/Suffolk border and sung other little gems such as "My Little Miss from Diss". Also what about Allan Taylor's song "Roll on the Day" about someone dying of advanced lung disease - not sure if it's cancer, pneumoconiosis or emphysema? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Blackcat2 Date: 14 Jan 00 - 10:43 AM I just don't like the smell. Though i'd rather smell cig smoke than people wearing a lot of perfume. There's a few in my office building, thankfully not in my workspace, but there's often a wall of scent in the elevator. phew! By the way - does anyone know of any studies done (or even local info) on smoke-free bars/pubs? even if their just a couple nights a week? It seems weird to me that so many people are non-smokers and yet so little has changed to the bar scene. We have a pool hall in town that has two different sections - closed off and with a hall between them for non-smoking and for smoking. There is always plenty of people in the non area. just curious... pax yall |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: BobLusk Date: 13 Jan 00 - 05:48 PM I disagree with the statement "If you are a non-smoker a little smoke may be less than pleasant at over-close quarters." The fact is that 2nd hand smoke experts ay that you have to be a long way away from smoke before you are not being hurt by it. If you can smell it, it's hurting you. More people die from smoking than alcohol and drugs by he way. More Columbians have been killed by American cigaretes than Americans have been killed by columbian cocaine! Bob |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Richard Bridge Date: 12 Jan 00 - 07:12 PM I have been a non-smoker for some years now after several failed attempts to give up. I drink too but that is for a different argument. My wife is a smoker. I object quite strongly to all this non-smoking hypersensitivity. If you are a non-smoker a little smoke may be less than pleasant at over-close quarters. But it is nothing to the discomfort you impose on the smoker when you object to him or her smoking. Been there, done that. Please take your moral homilies and stick them somewhere else. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: BobLusk Date: 12 Jan 00 - 07:03 PM I'm not trying to offend smoker's by the way, really - I'm really not, but you can't use the word choice when you're talking about an addicive drug. Most cigarette smokers would like to quit, but just don't see how they can do it. I work with crack addict's too and they have more trouble not smoking cigarettes. Bob |
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Subject: Lyr Add: SMOKE GOES EVERYWHERE^^ From: BobLusk Date: 12 Jan 00 - 06:45 PM I was very happy to see this thread. I am a former smoker- for 30 years. Spent the last 12 of them trying to quit. Now I run stop smoking groups. My father had lung cancer... I could go on for a long time. Anywho, we had a local hearing on a law about smoking in restaurants and someone suggested I write a song. It was the hardest audiance I ever played to, but it seemed to get people going - One female restaurant owner started to swing at me as I was getting "offstage". It's a takeoff on the old country song "I've been evererywhere, but is a little slower, so you can understand the words. All the facts are accurate, near as I can tell. Bob
SMOKE GOES EVERYWHERE
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Sandy Paton Date: 12 Jan 00 - 02:26 AM I have a friend who lost a part of his tongue, had a good-sized chunk taken out of his neck, and a small spot on his larynx treated with radiation, all cancerous. He stopped smoking for a few months after the second surgery, but is now back at it, full-time and full-bore. (Do you think it might be a bit addictive?) It was his choice to make, and he's made it. That's a given. We don't discuss it at all. Sandy |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Arkie Date: 12 Jan 00 - 12:19 AM I don't think there was any intent in this thread to offend smokers or to express animosity toward smokers. As Tony pointed out, if there is any object of scorn, it is the habit, not the person. Merle Travis, who wrote Smoke, Smoke, Smoke That Cigarette was a smoker and poked a little fun at himself. His son who had a fairly popular recording of the song and performs it in concerts is also a dedicated smoker. I am certainly glad that I never embraced the habit. Have a friend, a darn good musician, whose sister had her jaw rebuilt this past fall, a victim of years of smoking, and cancer had eaten away part of her face. I get sick when I think about it. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: TOBACCO UNION^^ From: Sandy Paton Date: 11 Jan 00 - 10:22 PM Hattie Presnell sings a song titled "Tobacco Union" on my Traditional Music of Beech Mountain, NC., Volume II. It's clearly "anti." Me? I'm neutral. I happily smoked a pack a day for fifty-three years. When I had my coronary by-pass in 1995, I decided maybe I ought to take advantage of sixteen days in a non-smoking environment (the hospital) and use that as a head start on quitting, since I figured I ought to do that before I became addicted. I miss it. I stand next to smokers in the alley snowdrifts, blissfully inhaling their exhalations. Best use of "second-hand smoke" I can think of. Anyway, here's the song Hattie gave me. She learned it from an old reprobate named "Lie-hue" who would wander into the Beech Mountain area every seven years, they told me. SING OUT! (Volume 14, No. 2) published another version of the song as it was sung by Emma Dusenberry of Mena, Arkansas (my father's home town). Randolph (Ozark Folksongs, Vol. III, p. 274)) printed a version from Mrs. Maggie Morgan of Springfield, Arkansas, observing that she had learned it in the late 1880s. Jere's Hattie's text: Come young and old and hear me tell How strong tobacco smokers smell, Who loves to smoke the pipe so well, For tobacco they will sell, To burn and smoke in union.
They'll take the money from the poor
And then, sometimes, some church you'll view,
The twist so large within their mouth,
Then there's the verse I learned from Joe Camp, a farmer I harvested for in the wheat fields near Larned, Kansas, in 1944, sung as part of "The Taters They Grow Small in Kansas:"
I reckon that's "anti-poverty," too. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Art Thieme Date: 11 Jan 00 - 10:17 PM People, bear with me while I mix a few metaphors and ideas here. Maybe I can get 'em straight in my own head as I write 'em out for you.... That same aunt, my mother's twin sister, all the while she was asking me for a cigarette whenever we'd see her in the nursing home as she lay dying, would also call quite often at 3:oo AM or 4:00 AM----awaken me out of deep sleep---and demand for the next half hour that I bring her a cyanide pill. It was hell to see someone you love hurting, addicted and completely out of control of her own life. But I'd like to try to tie even this sadness to something musical---an idea I used in the schools around Chicago trying to make traditional songs relevant to students who were striving to make sense of modern dilemmas. Songs about other hard times of other people often could be made to shed light on recent happenings. Being sure that this once gracious woman was well cared for opened my eyes to the real meaning between the lines of the western song "Bury Me Not On The Lone Prairie". The dying cowboy asks his pals to please not bury him out on the prairie. They tell him whatever they need to tell him to calm him a bit----and then, when he dies, out of necessity, they do bury him out there. They even probably take his boots and rope and horse and saddle. But the real theme of the song is how hard it is in certain situations, especially at the end of one's life, to retain any semblance of control of that which is being wrested so painfully away.
"Pay no heed to the enticing words,
"Oh bury me not...", but his voice failed there,
And the cowboys all--as they ride the range, I hear that kind of striving for control from so very many smokers I know who find all kinds of interesting reasons to keep on keeping on. They even invoke the constitution and their own "pursuit of happiness". So think about doing this and other traditional songs from the depths of history to put forth all kinds of modern attitudes and positions. Those guys who "owned the large droves and herds", might today be the tobacco billionairs who have been losing (finally) in the courts while luring people to addiction and death. Anyhow, please don't be offended. I ain't against people who smoke. I'm against the assholes who continue to make a fortune by recruiting more people every day. And now that they're getting hurt a little here in the U.S., all of the packages of smokes are getting a warning label but it's in YOUR language. A word to the wise... Art Thieme
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Tony Burns Date: 11 Jan 00 - 08:03 PM Those who are offended or feel picked on should note that the topic of this thread is anti-smoking not anti-smoker. As a reformed smoker I know both sides of this argument only too well. I will continue to sing anti-smoking songs in the hope that it will discourage some from taking up this habit. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Rick Fielding Date: 11 Jan 00 - 07:49 PM C'mon Clare,(oops, Clare S) are you trying to tell me that you actually got on the wrong side of someone recently? Impossible! Rick (laughing maniacally) |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: clare s Date: 11 Jan 00 - 06:34 PM Peace to you too, Blackcat - btw, my name has no i |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Blackcat2 Date: 11 Jan 00 - 06:20 PM Hi Claire I understand you very much. As you may have noticed my posting mentioned something about friends who are smokers. If I actually hate yall and though yall were stuck-up or something I wouldn't have anything to do with yall. I was reacting to your quote (hence me quoting it) but like I said, I found it funny. You are welcome to your choices in the world as am I. I just find it interesting how people chose to express themselves and it sure sounded like a cig. advert. take care and may you never suffer from your choice to smoke. pax yall |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Susanne (skw) Date: 11 Jan 00 - 05:07 PM Clare, I can see you are an optimist, always seeing a bright side. One more bright thought: At least smokers don't lose control of their cars, their ships or themselves and 'inadvertently' kill other people more directly than any passive smoking can. (I don't hate alcoholics, but I DO hate alcohol in unhealthy quantities.) - Susanne |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: clare s Date: 11 Jan 00 - 04:53 PM Blackcat2, You'll have to excuse me the comment that you quoted - I had a dreadful weekend, spent most of it hating the world and managed to offend several people here... Now that I've calmed down, I have to say that us smokers don't feel superior, we are just sick and tired of being judged for a lifestyle choice that we've made. As lifestyle choices go, it may not be the most sensible in the world, but it's our choice. I can understand the passive smoking arguement and try my best to be considerate in that way - given the way things are going it will soon become impossible for me to inadvertently cause you to inhale my smoke. That is fine by me; I'm starting to enjoy having to go outside for a smoke in social situations - it's an excellent excuse to avoid people you don't like. What I find difficult to understand is the extent to which us smokers are despised and vilified. We aren't lepers, we simply enjoy a habit for which you don't understand our rationale. Of course smoking may kill me, but so might lots of other activities. I enjoy it, am well aware of the risks, and have made my choice. Please respect that and don't give me songs, stories or personal recollections as to why my choice is wrong. I wonder what response I'd get if I started a thread on being overweight, eating too much and not taking any exercise. I imagine the responses would be somewhat different. Clare |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Anti-smoking songs From: Blackcat2 Date: 11 Jan 00 - 02:55 PM I was wondering as I was wandering down this thread if someone would finally object to it's content. I didn't think it be as heated a objection as it received. I remember as a boy i used to take interesting show & tell items to school from my mom's office - she workd for the American Lung assoc. and that was jsut after they moved from a focus on Tuberculosis to lung cancer/smoking. There's nothing like sharing a glass encased biopsy of a healthy lung nest of a 2 park a day for 30 years lung. Smokers have a right to smoke. They have a right to like it, to feel proud, superior, etc. (I'm not saying all smokers do - most of my friends that smoke aren't happy they do) BUT the arrogance of statements such as "and we don't care if we might die a few years earlier. Our years won't have been quite as boring as yours." is laughable! Gee just look at all those people out their living boring lives because they don't smoke! Boy i'll tell you, a statement like that makes Madison Avenue perk right up! pax yall |
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