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BS: Green and blue clicky things

McGrath of Harlow 15 Jan 00 - 01:43 PM
Joe Offer 15 Jan 00 - 03:11 PM
Bill D 15 Jan 00 - 03:15 PM
Bill D 15 Jan 00 - 03:17 PM
Wincing Devil 15 Jan 00 - 03:25 PM
Bill D 15 Jan 00 - 03:43 PM
Joe Offer 15 Jan 00 - 03:51 PM
TheMuse 15 Jan 00 - 03:55 PM
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George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca 15 Jan 00 - 04:16 PM
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Subject: Green and blue clicky things
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 15 Jan 00 - 01:43 PM

I'm a bit puzzled with these clickt things.

First the green ones, marked "Shop" that you get at the top of some of the posts. Now, since I live a long way away from the USA, I've so far never bought anything from the Mudcat - but they still turn up on my posts. And a very interesting selection of records they are, so I'm not complaining.

But I'm puzzled. I'd like to think there is some benevolent presence somewhere who is reading what I write, and reckoning "this one might be suitable for the man" - but I doubt if even the resourceful Max has yet come up with a program that could do that.

As for the blue clicky things, mine always seem to come out as purple or btown. For example allegedly blue clicky thing

Of course, Sod's Law dictates that this will probably come out as blue after all...


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Subject: Tech: Green and blue clicky things
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Jan 00 - 03:11 PM

Hi, McGrath - the "green clicky things" (er...links) at the top of Forum messages are a doo-dad Max set up to link songs mentioned in threads to recordings of the song at the Mudcat Store. I don't know about the store's overseas shipping policies, but I'm sure arrangements can be made. The store helps defray Max's costs - he spends a lot to keep us online. The store also helps people know about all the good recordings that are available.
The colors of the links can vary. I think most browsers have blue set as the default color for links, and then the links turn an ugly greenish color (cyan?) when yoou've visited the site they link to.
For the "shop" links, Max changed the color to green, although some browsers may be set to override that fashion choice.
And while we're on the subject of clicky things, let me give a sample for all you good people out there:

<a href=http://www.mudcat.org/>Click here</a>

(Note that I do not use quotation marks in links. They're not needed here at Mudcat and in most HTML situations, and they tend to make a mess of a thread if you forget the closing quote marks. should I change my ways and instead start nagging people to be sure to include the closing quotation marks within HTML tags? I dunno. I think that if you keep your HTML simple, you're less likely to makes mistakes and more likely to detect mistakes while proofreading, so I suggest leaving out the quotes.)
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Green and blue clicky things
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Jan 00 - 03:15 PM

*grin*..in a browser, there are ways to turn links about any color you'd want...blue seems to be the default, so that is what most folk see...but it IS possible to even make it display as red, or purple, etc...(and ways of over-riding THAT!)...


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Subject: RE: BS: Green and blue clicky things
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Jan 00 - 03:17 PM

my 'looked at' links turn bright RED, 'cause I set 'em to!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Green and blue clicky things
From: Wincing Devil
Date: 15 Jan 00 - 03:25 PM

As a web developer, tha's my greatest problem. Folks set up their browser any way they want to, either intentionally or by accident. Using straight HTML, you have little control over how something looks, especially if their using a text only browser, like Lynx.

If it wasn't challenging, it wouldn't be fun!

Wincing Devil
There is no such thing as an ugly cat (http://www.ILoveMySphynx.com


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Subject: RE: BS: Green and blue clicky things
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Jan 00 - 03:43 PM

tsk...when the day comes that I CAN'T control what I see and how I see it, there is gonna be some noise!...it's all very well to design some things, but the trend is toward MAKING me see ads, colors, dancing cartoons, sounds, pop-ups, banners, and frames...all at the cost of time and simplicity...with cookies thrown in to TRACK where and what I do...so far, I am able to limit it, but it's a lot of work...(was a a Microsoft site yesterday, where ther were some images on a page, and so help me, they set a cookie for EVERY .jpg! 17 cookies for one page, and everytime you go forward & back, they try it again...and ONE of those cookies was REQUIRED to allow you into the page at all!.......

need I mention I don't like the trend?..*grin*


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Subject: Tech: colors and font size on browsers
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Jan 00 - 03:51 PM

I've been wondering what settings I can change on my browser that will make reading easier without radically changing the way Web pages look. My browser of choice is MSIE (Microsoft Internet Explorer). I hadn't thought of it until just now, but the 'Cat has been a bit more of a strain to read lately. I was thinking I might have to go out to the 99-cent store for a new pair of reading glasses. Instead, I went to the "View" menu at the top of my browser, and changed the "text size" option to "larger." Now everything looks like bold type, but it's sure easier on the eyes.
There are similar settings changes you can make on Netscape, and both browsers allow you to make more radical changes if you like. However, if you change colors and things other than type/font size, you may have trouble viewing some pages. Normal text may become easier to read if you change background colors, but it may be that links will become invisible to you.
-Joe Offer-

Bill, that link you gave is certainly technical, but it sure is interesting. Thanks for giving it to us. I think that page (click) talks about long-term solutions. the software the first poster speaks of is different, I think - it works by downloading things the reader might want to look at. I would think that could contribut to the overall Internet slowdown.


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Subject: RE: BS: Green and blue clicky things
From: TheMuse
Date: 15 Jan 00 - 03:55 PM

Wincing D,

Wow! That is some photo "album"! I enjoyed it immensely. I have two cats and any cat lover is a friend of mine so. . . glad to meet ya.

TheMuse


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Subject: RE: BS: Green and blue clicky things
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Jan 00 - 04:01 PM

Incoming thread drift........WD, are those YOUR kitties? Adorable, good photos, pewter area looks a lot like mine.

I set my colours to blue and red by going to
View
Internet Options
General and Colors
then changing where it says Links.

You can also change background colours in there.

BillD, you probably already know about this, but Junkbusters

or

http://www.junkbusters.com/ht/en/cookies.html has great info on cookies and privacy and how to avoid such invasions. I had enabled their program until I found I had to reset a cookie for every site I had marked as a fav, including the Mudcat. Too much trouble!

katlaughing


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Subject: RE: BS: Green and blue clicky things
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 15 Jan 00 - 04:16 PM

Lucky for me, Using a Lynx Browser, I don't have to worry too much about cookie. I set the browser to accept them all.

The only one I have to reset at all, is the Mudcat one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Green and blue clicky things
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Jan 00 - 04:41 PM

But how does it handle the calories, George? *BG*


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Subject: Cookies
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Jan 00 - 04:58 PM

Yeah, Kat, that's the trouble with rejecting cookies. If you set your browser to reject all cookies, you eliminate the good ones like the tasty chocolate-chip Mudcat cookie, along with all the obnoxious ones. I have a sneaky work-around, though.
I use MSIE as my browser of choice, and I use it only for Mudcat and other sites I trust. When I want to go wandering, I use Netscape. If my Netscape picks up cookies I don't like, it doesn't matter, because I regularly clean out all the cookies from my Netscape cache. In the past, I had conflicts caused by using earlier versions of both MSIE and Netscape on the same computer, but the newer versions of both browsers seem to have resolved those conflict problems quite nicely, and I can even use both browsers at the same time without any conflict at all.
Now, if we get to the point where Netscape and MSIE share the same cookies, my workaround won't work so well.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Green and blue clicky things
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 15 Jan 00 - 06:10 PM

kat! Just fine. I'm the one who suffers from caloric overindulgence.

HOWEVER! Notwithstanding that statement, I just tried a new cookie the other night. Reverse Decadent. Instead of the vanilla cookie with the chocolate chip in it. It is a chocolate cookie with white chocolate chips! REALLY yummy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Green and blue clicky things
From: BK
Date: 15 Jan 00 - 09:54 PM

(Talk abt creep!) My Mom put white chocolate in the care package she sent me this christmas - gotta say I only really like best the dark "bittersweet" chocolate. But how do you break it to yer Mom that you don't like something in her cookies...

As for browsers, I too use MSIE for mudcat, where I need to let the cookie be accepted - mainly only for Mudcat, since I don't trust MS anyway. then I switch to Netscape w/cookies OFF, to cruise -such little cruising as I have time & interest for - medical sites & miata.net & such.. Like joe said, seems to work reasonably well. => ie, freezes & have to control-alternate-delete only once or twice a night.. on some nights. Sometime I don't need to, but often I do - mostly using Netscape. A computor science PhD I met at an engineering school said it's not an accident... Still intend someday to use Linux & then I'll not have Evil Giant MS mucking up my system...

Cheers, BK


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Subject: RE: BS: Green and blue clicky things
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Jan 00 - 10:05 PM

well!, I found a link or two, and there seems to be software which allows you to selectively decide WHICH sites, if any, you want to allow cookies, java, etc..from..!! (also email!)....

look at this page

seems it is being maintained by a user group, but it looks good..and I'm sure there are other similar things...I may just try this, and will give a report


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Subject: RE: BS: Green and blue clicky things
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Jan 00 - 04:02 PM

hmmm...AtGuard seems to be very clever...highly configurable, can be turned off & on...will let allow cookies from ONLY sites I wish, (also java & javascript!)...also has firewall settings and protection from hackers,if you think you need it...I may like this!


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Subject: RE: BS: Green and blue clicky things
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 16 Jan 00 - 08:16 PM

That's neat, Joe, the way green clicky things work - I'd been trying to relate them to the person making the posting. Now it all makes sense, the way that the recordings seemed somehow relevant. So my speculation aboutr the mystic presence in the machine keeping an eye on us wasn't that far off the mark.

Great cat pictures, wincing devil. My wife still remembers the first time she saw a Sphynx (or even heard of their existence. Visiting some people, and she noticed that on a shelf they seemed to have this stuffed leather cat. She was just thinking it was a rather odd decioration when it stretched and yawned. She nearly had a heart attack. It was a horror flick moment.

But yours look great.


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Subject: RE: BS: Green and blue clicky things
From: _gargoyle
Date: 17 Jan 00 - 12:09 AM

OPERA

The perfect choice ....
..........................for the perfect musical site.


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Subject: RE: BS: Green and blue clicky things
From: Roger the skiffler
Date: 17 Jan 00 - 11:52 AM

At least the green clicky things here have some (albeit often tenuous) relevance. One online record shop feature "if you liked...you'll like this" followed up an order for jazz & blues CDs with a suggestion of Gounod and Scarlatti!
RtS


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Subject: RE: BS: Green and blue clicky things
From: Margo
Date: 17 Jan 00 - 04:58 PM

One thing about the blue clicky thing: I'm the kind of person that really needs things spelled out and taken one step at a time. The one thing I never picked up on when seeing examples of links was THE SPACE BETWEEN A AND HREF. Once I was shown step by step (thanks Katlaughing) I got it! So don't forget the space. Margo


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