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cowboy song info needed - Badger Clark

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DESERT SILVERY BLUE
HIGH CHIN BOB
SPANISH IS THE LOVING TONGUE


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BK 17 Jan 00 - 10:20 PM
DonMeixner 17 Jan 00 - 10:55 PM
katlaughing 18 Jan 00 - 12:21 AM
ddw 18 Jan 00 - 01:18 AM
Joe Offer 18 Jan 00 - 01:52 AM
raredance 18 Jan 00 - 08:37 PM
BK 18 Jan 00 - 09:00 PM
BK 18 Jan 00 - 09:03 PM
Frank of Toledo 18 Jan 00 - 10:32 PM
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Subject: cowboy song info needed
From: BK
Date: 17 Jan 00 - 10:20 PM

Anybody know a practical way to find out if a specific poem by Charles Badger Clark Jr (mainly known as just Badger Clark) was made into a song. Many of you know that "Spanish Is A Loving Tongue" is taken from one of his poems ("A Border Affair"), as, reportedly, were many songs sung out on the trails, by real cowboys from early in the 20th century, but how to get a handle on which ones of his many poems were used as songs? For example the song "High Chin Bob" comes to mind, from his poem "The Glory Trail." This was initially mistakenly identified as an anonymous folk ballad. Aslo, how many, if any, were sung on the silver screen by Hollywood cowboys?

I finally have a collection of most of his work and have a notion to look into setting a tune to other poems of his, but I'd like to know what has already been done - as the muse will, on an airline hop, I opened the book randomly and a tune almost literally jumped out of my subconscious for his poem "The Old Prospector." How 'bout it, 'catters, any ideas? (If anyone in the universe would know about this, it's the folks here!)

Thanx, BK


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Subject: RE: cowboy song info needed
From: DonMeixner
Date: 17 Jan 00 - 10:55 PM

BK

EMail Baxter Black at coyotecowboy@theriver.com Of anyone would know he would.

Don


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Subject: RE: cowboy song info needed
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Jan 00 - 12:21 AM

I'll ask my dad, BK. He should know, for Badger Clark is one of his favourites and he has one or two first editions of his stuff.

Don, whatta listening to that carpetbagger fer?**BG**

katlaughingwithtingueincheek


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Subject: RE: cowboy song info needed
From: ddw
Date: 18 Jan 00 - 01:18 AM

BK,

I didn't have time to look around a lot and I'm not good at blue clicky things, but if you poke around in http://www.nucleus.com/~cowboy/index/html you might find a lot of what you're looking for.

cheers,

david


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Subject: Cowboy Poetry
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Jan 00 - 01:52 AM

Hey, I was quite impressed with myself for finding the Badger Clark Home Page. This inflated self-image quickly deflated when I found the site contains only TWO poems. Big deal.
I did find some interesting sites along the way, though - here's http://www.cowboypoets.com/ and Voices West: Cowboy Poetry and song Homepage.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: cowboy song info needed
From: raredance
Date: 18 Jan 00 - 08:37 PM

Katie Lee of Jerome, AZ was an off beat pop singer in the 50's/60's with several albums and later became a proponent of cowboy songs as the author of "Ten Thousand Goddam Cattle" was a big fan of Badger Clark and another western poet of the same era, Henry Herbert Knibbs. In collaboration with Ed Stabler she issued a cassette called "His Knibbs & the Badger" that included 8 Knibbs and Clark poems to which they set music, along with a couple that were already songs. I saw it when I was in Jerome in 1992. I bought the 10,000 GD cattle book and cassette, but that's all at the time. I do not know if Katydid Books and Music, PO Box 395, Jerome AZ is still in operation but you could give it a try.

rich r


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Subject: RE: cowboy song info needed
From: BK
Date: 18 Jan 00 - 09:00 PM

Wow! the Mudcat comes thru again! Thanks, everybody for the outstanding info & ideas. I'll be working on these & some things they've reminded me of. Rich; I'd particularly like to hear that tape. I'll try to get it.

Thanx again, BK


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Subject: RE: cowboy song info needed
From: BK
Date: 18 Jan 00 - 09:03 PM

Kat: does your dad get into songs as well as poems?

Cheers, BK


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Subject: RE: cowboy song info needed
From: Frank of Toledo
Date: 18 Jan 00 - 10:32 PM

Don Edwards has a double CD on Shanachie CD6025, which include some Charles Badger Clark and Henry Herbert Knibbs poems set to music by Don. More information should be available by writing to Scott O'Malley and Don Edwards at Western Jubilee Recording Company LLC, Post Office Box 9187, Colorado Springs, Co. 80932 Ph 1 719 635 9975/ Great people with a wealth of knowledge on this subject.........


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Subject: RE: cowboy song info needed
From: BK
Date: 20 Jan 00 - 09:22 PM

Thanks, Frank, I'll try to get the CD - BK


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Subject: RE: cowboy song info needed
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Jan 00 - 12:26 PM

BK, sorry I didn't see your question earlier and I just spoke to dad today. The only two Clark poems turned songs that he knew about were the ones you already mentioned, Spanish Is a Loving Tongue and High Chin Bob. Those were also the only ones listed in a book he has called, Git Along Little Dogies by John R, White.

To answer your question, yes, Dad gets into poems. He can still quote reams of them by heart. When he was growing up, he and his father, while working the ranch, would often spend a whole morning conversing in nothing but qouted poetry apropros to the moment.

In reference to Katie Lee's book, search out the thread called "From Ms. Katie Lee"; it is an email I received from her adn, if I remember right, it has the addy of the org you can purchase all of her books and tapes from, although I think Ten Thousand Goddamn Cattle may be out of print now. I did find several copies of it at www.bibliofind.

Hope this ins't too late to be of help.

katlaughing


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Subject: RE: cowboy song info needed
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 27 Jan 00 - 12:38 PM

I don't know if this is thread creep or not, but does anyone know where I can start a search for the collected cowboy songs of D.J. O'Malley? Books or recordings?


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