Domeamma

Subject: DOMEAMMA
From: GUEST,RJM
Date: 18 Apr 23 - 02:56 AM

version of domeamma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B3P7shFBCU

Subject: RE: Domeamma
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Apr 23 - 03:51 AM

Very nice Dick :-) What does the J stand for BTW?

Subject: RE: Domeamma
From: GUEST,RJM
Date: 18 Apr 23 - 11:51 AM

thanks

Subject: RE: Domeamma
From: GUEST,RJM
Date: 18 Apr 23 - 03:58 PM

j stands for jose8f

Subject: RE: Domeamma
From: GUEST,R J M
Date: 19 Apr 23 - 02:44 PM

jOSEF

Subject: RE: Domeamma
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 21 Apr 23 - 01:36 PM

Interestingly enough there have been suggestions that this song has a connection to the ballad Glasgerion, Child 67. Roud 145. It was a favourite of Bert Lloyd who also penned another version Jack Orion, which in true Bert style put to the tune 'Donald where's your trousers'.
Nobody spotted it until after Carthy and Jansch had recorded it!
My favourite version was sung by Pop Maynard, and of course, the late great Peter Bellamy collected a version called 'Yarmouth Town' as we know and love.
I sometimes think that the below stairs versions of ballads are the more rewarding, and often more amusing. Good on you Jack! Let's all join in with Domeamma! (By the way, stick that word in Google and it goes into a tailspin)

Subject: RE: Domeamma
From: Lighter
Date: 21 Apr 23 - 02:07 PM

"Collected," Nick?

/mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=41454#3735027

Subject: RE: Domeamma
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 21 Apr 23 - 06:33 PM

Your link does not work lighter. Yarmouth Town was evidently sung by Peter Bullen. I have just read your lengthy post on the subject from 2015. I think collected is the correct term, whether the Bullen family composed it or not.
A comparable song genealogy would be 'Three Hearty Young Poachers' (Roud 1690) collected by Gardiner in Hampshire. The song was purely local and was never taken up by the purveyors of street literature, and only collected twice within a seven-mile radius, the second time the singer had a confused version.
The singer was John Hatch of Winchester and Richard Reed of Bishops Sutton Hampshire 1906/7. It is to be found in 'Southern Harvest'. A more modern comparison would be Derby Smith and Ambrose Cooper singing 'Will there be any travellers in heaven?' Both claim authorship. Numerous songs with known authors have been collected from tradition, so why should poor old Yarmouth Town be any different?

Subject: RE: Domeamma
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 21 Apr 23 - 06:49 PM

Forgot to say. Traditional means the Song/Dance/Poem or whatever is within a family or community. Assuming the Bullen family existed, then Yarmouth town is in their tradition, authorship is another subject altogether, as is traditional singing style. Impartiality rules OK, and that's blooming difficult for me! I worked as a Radio presenter for the BBC for 36 years.

Subject: RE: Domeamma
From: Lighter
Date: 21 Apr 23 - 07:28 PM

I'm assuming otherwise, Nick, for all the reasons adduced on the Yarmouth thread - including "meself's" observation on "bullin'" and "Peter Bullen's" other song, "Fakenham Fair." (Wink wink, nudge nudge.)

thread.cfm?threadid=41454#3735027

Based on "Do Me Ama," "Yarmouth Town" includes traditional elements, but I do not believe it's a "traditional song." I suspect its "origin" lies with the late, great Bellamy himself.

Subject: RE: Domeamma
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Apr 23 - 02:46 AM

I prefer Domeamma to Yarmouth town, I cannot warm to the verse

And the word it soon got round
And the very next night in Yarmouth town
There were fifteen sailors pulling on the string
She came down and she let them all in

Subject: RE: Domeamma
From: GUEST,RJM
Date: 22 Apr 23 - 03:00 AM

Do you have any evidence that Peter Bellamy wrote Yarmouth Town?
The song treats a woman as an object.

Subject: RE: Domeamma
From: GUEST,RJM
Date: 22 Apr 23 - 04:22 AM

I understand that in the interests of scholarship,Bert has to be exposed, at the same time I find it sad that this is done.
For me,It is slightly reminiscent of knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing, in this context an emotional reaction rather than a logical one, but i still feel sadness about it

Subject: RE: Domeamma
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 22 Apr 23 - 05:02 AM

I am confident that RJM and Lighter will not mind if I use this thread to underline what a genuine Gentleman Peter Bellamy was.
For example, while I was playing in Finland and Sweden for six weeks, my wife was at a festival with Peter, and she ran out of cash for whatever reason. Peter fed her and looked after her, helping her up and down stairs (she is disabled). She and I will not have a word said against him. Sorry to distract you from the discussion.

Subject: RE: Domeamma
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 22 Apr 23 - 05:05 AM

Not of course that anybody was saying a word against him. Sorry!

Subject: RE: Domeamma
From: GUEST,RJM
Date: 22 Apr 23 - 10:47 AM

Thankyou an uplifting and positive post