Line wanted, Doomeammer song Tawney

Subject: Line wanted, Doomeammer song Tawney
From: Gurney
Date: 19 Jan 14 - 04:30 PM

Just starting to digitise my old songbook(Tedious!) and I'm missing the last line of this song. Can anyone help? I suppose it is just another repetition. Cyril sang it.

The Doomehammer Song/Jack the Sailor                                                Trad

While Jack was out one day a'walking he heard a squire and a lady talking
As jack came by, he heard them say that they thatnight together would lay

        Ch) With his doomyhammer-deemyhammer-doomyhammer day
               Fol-de-roller riddle-roller whack fol-de-day

"Tie a bit of string onto your finger and let it hang out of the window
I'll come by and pull the string and you come down and you let me in."

"Blow me," says Jack, "If I don't venture! I'll come back and I'll try and catch her,
I'll come by and I'll pull the string and she'll come down and she'll let me in."

As Jack outside her bedroom lingered, he saw the string hanging down from the window
He pulled and tugged all at that string, and she came down and she let him in

"Who are you, and where do you come from?" "My name is Jack, and my ship's the London
And I came by, and I saw the string, and I'm well-trained at the signaling

What happened next, I needn't mention, but every night she'd the same attention
Jack'd come by and he'd pull the string, and she'd come down and let him in

So come all young girls who love a sailor, tie a bit of string onto your finger

Subject: RE: Line wanted, Doomeammer song Tawney
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 01:13 PM

Got lots of versions but can't find Cyril's in any printed books, or that ending. He didn't include it in 'Grey Funnel Line'.

I've a vague recollection this version came from Bert Lloyd. He was one of the first to sing it in the revival.

Subject: RE: Line wanted, Doomeammer song Tawney
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 01:46 PM

http://mainlynorfolk.info/lloyd/songs/domeama.html

Four people's versions. Go about 1/2 way down the page that opens. (That site is excellent, imo.)

Subject: RE: Line wanted, Doomeammer song Tawney
From: Noreen
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 02:55 PM

As Steve Gardham says, anonymous GUEST- lots of versions, but not this ending.

Subject: RE: Line wanted, Doomeammer song Tawney
From: GUEST,Guest TF
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 03:12 PM

Doesn't it usually end up with "14 sailors pullin' on the string, she's come down and she's let 'em all in"?

Subject: RE: Line wanted, Doomeammer song Tawney
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 03:25 PM

I think that ending, TF, is in Peter Bellamy's remake called 'Yarmouth Town'.

The original story features in a long 18th century ballad 'The Merchant's Courtship to the Brazier's Daughter'.

Just for info the Roud number is 511 and Laws number K40. My Master Title is 'Jack the Jolly Tar'.

Subject: RE: Line wanted, Doomeammer song Tawney
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 04:02 PM

http://music.gordfisch.net/oregans/songs/yarmouthtown.php

Here's another (Yarmouth Town).

Subject: RE: Line wanted, Doomeammer song Tawney
From: The Sandman
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 04:20 PM

dome amma as recorded by lloyd was different.
i suggest you make it up, how about this, jack comes by he will pull on the string, you come down and you let him in.

Subject: RE: Line wanted, Doomeammer song Tawney
From: Gurney
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 04:56 PM

Yes, GSS, that was my thought too.
Thanks for the thoughts, folks. I've no idea how I lost the line, but it just isn't there in the songbook. Possibly I recorded the song from memory, my memory for lyrics was fairly good once, and I could memorise a simple 'story' song like this at one hearing.
Nowadays, however.....    Hence the tidying of the songbooks.

Unfortunately most of 'my' songs could be described as 'standard' versions, and I also made no notes of where I got them from. Mistake!

Cyril was of course a collector as well as a performer, in his younger days he recorded source singers in the field. I wonder if Rosemary will ever make his recordings public. Perhaps the EFDSS should contact her, if they haven't already.

Subject: RE: Line wanted, Doomeammer song Tawney
From: GUEST,Derek Schofield
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 06:44 PM

Sadly, Rosemary died a few years ago.
Derek

Subject: RE: Line wanted, Doomeammer song Tawney
From: Gurney
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 07:46 PM

Just as I came on to comment, Derek. I went looking for the Tawney website to ask her, and came upon her obit. on Mudcat. Missed it at the time. I was communicating with her about that time, and sent her my recording of a Cyril appearance. She wanted his chat and preambles.

Subject: RE: Line wanted, Doomeammer song Tawney
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 08:30 PM

Cyril recorded the song on what I think was his last CD - "Nautical Tawney" 2003 on ADA Recordings.

He sings most of what appears above but the final line is:
"He'll come by and he'll pull the string
And you come down and you let him in."

Tim Radford

Subject: RE: Line wanted, Doomeammer song Tawney
From: RTim
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 08:37 PM

Oh - the guest above was me!!
And the track on the recording is called - Pull The String.

Tim Radford

Subject: RE: Line wanted, Doomeammer song Tawney
From: Gurney
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 09:39 PM

Thank you Tim, just what I wanted, and just what GSS guessed. :-)

Sad to learn of Rosemary's passing, though. I remember her from the last time we met, at Plymouth's Barbican Grecian Club venue, where I was a regular for a couple of years. Thinking about it, about 1969ish!!

Time goes on.