Fastnet Maritime Folk Festival 2024

Subject: FASTNET MARITIME FOLK FESTIVAL JUNE 2024
From: GUEST,RJM
Date: 29 Oct 23 - 05:41 AM

The 11th Fastnet Maritime and Folk Festival will be held from the 14th – 16 June 2024,
STAN HUGILL an illustrated talk by Chris Roche
My Friend Stan
Who was my friend Stan?
I first met Stan Hugill in November of 1972
when he and his boys Martin and Philip
sang at Teachers Folk in the New Kent
Road a whole day later I started looking for
his then out of print book Shanties from the
seven seas along the way I found his other
books and started to collect recordings of
the sea shanty as he had sung it.
Over the years I gained greater interest in
mercantile maritime history and the sea
shanty collected books recordings and took
aboard such an interest that I went to sea
myself in square rigged sailing ships.
Stan Hugill: came from a seafaring family he went to sea at an early age a young
man aged 16 he was wrecked on his first overseas voyage and while ashore in
New Zealand found he had a knack with languages he had a degree in oriental
languages Japanese and Mandarin sponsored by his shipping company Blue
Funnel, he could draw and paint, talk for hours and was something of a hypnotic
speaker. He hoboed across the Americas North and South and the Caribbean he
had to suddenly leave one port when the bombs fell he was there at several key
points in history wrecked in the last big square rigger the British had taken as a
POW WWII. Writer of 5 books including the seminal works `Shanties from the
Seven Seas` and `Sailor Town` while serving as Bosun at the Outward Bound
School Aberdovey. He trained boys at Gordonstoun school and sailed in the big
four Mast barque `Passat` rescued from a scrap yard, was discovered and
revered by British, American, French and Poles alike for his skill with song, history,
language, knowledge of the sea, he worked with National Geographic looking to
find Francis Drakes lead coffin and sea grave.
My friend Stan An illustrated talk and personal reminisce runs for one hour and a
half in story, song, sound clips and slides;
Contact: [e-mail] 020 8647 1396

Subject: RE: Fastnet Maritime Folk Festival 2024
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Oct 23 - 01:49 AM

Music is one field where your caste and religion is not important. People accept you so long as you can move them. It is a medium that allows you to fly beyond your caste.

Rajiv Menon

Subject: RE: Fastnet Maritime Folk Festival 2024
From: GUEST,RJM
Date: 31 Oct 23 - 03:25 AM

Gibb, you quote your experience of India.
I quote my experience outside of India
India has a caste system which is imo divisive.
im0 division amongst the electorate allows the ruling elite to rule, divide and rule
India population is equivalent to 17.76% of the total world population.

Subject: RE: Fastnet Maritime Folk Festival 2024
From: GUEST,RJM
Date: 31 Oct 23 - 03:51 AM

I am accepting your experience of India, but i am attemPting to put in proportion to the rest of the world

Subject: RE: Fastnet Maritime Folk Festival 2024
From: Gibb Sahib
Date: 31 Oct 23 - 02:29 AM

Since this thread is already bizarre...

>>Music is one field where your caste and religion is not important.

Strongly disagree. To perform music professionally in northern India, caste is of utmost significance. Musicians usually belong to the most marginalized minority groups, especially Dalits or former "outcastes." For documented centuries, "higher" caste people have avoided musical performance for fear of its stigma, to lose their status. By the same token, the musicians, of "lower" caste, have been viewed as polluting or at least with suspicion.

Religion may be viewed as excluding of music. In orthodox Islam, "religion" and "music" (musiqah in Arabic) are mutually exclusive categories. This introduces various conundra in cross-cultural circumstances.

One could argue that music, in fact, articulates (or supports the articulation of) social identities including caste and religious identities.

That an Indian would say this quote is quite strange, if not oblivious. It's a really bland version of 19th century Western European epistemology, usually conceived in the context of "absolute" Classical music.