MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Mar 24 - 10:45 AM

Rap, has Gluon been by to see you lately?

QUARK!!!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 23 Mar 24 - 07:38 AM

> I keep getting signals from the universe, they're incoherent.

Are you a radioastronomer, Rap? it's the only field I've been in where noise is the signal, and coherent signals are the noise.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Mar 24 - 06:03 AM

I cannot say that I know you well
But you can't lie to me with all these books that you sell
I'm not trying to follow you to the end of the world
I'm just trying to leave something behind
Words have come from men and mouse
Oh, but I can't help thinking that I have heard the wrong crowd
When all the water is gone my job will be too
So I'm trying to leave something behind
Oh, money is free but love costs more than our bread
And the ceiling is hard to reach
Oh, the future ahead is broken and red
And I'm trying to leave something behind
This whole world is a foreign land
We swallow the moon, but we do not know our own hand
Oh, we're running with the case, but we ain't got the gold
Yet we're trying to leave something behind
My friends, I belive we are at the wrong fight
And I can not read what I did not write
I've been to his house, but the master is gone
Yet we're trying to leave something behind
Now there is a beast who has taken my brain
You can put me to bed, but you can't feel my pain
When the machine has taken the soul from the man
It's time to leave something behind
Oh, money is free but love costs more than our bread
And the ceiling is hard to reach
Oh, the future ahead is already dead
And it's time to leave something behind
Now, I've got this feeling that I'm still at the shore
And pockets don't know what it means to be poor
I can get through the wall if you give me a door
So I can leave something behind
Oh, wisdom is lost in the trees somewhere
Oh, you're not gonna find it in some mental gray hair
It's locked up from those who hurry ahead
And it's time to leave something behind
Oh, money is free but love costs more than our bread
And the ceiling is hard to reach
When my son is a man, he will know what I meant
When I was just trying to leave something behind
And I'm trying to leave something behind
Source: Musixmatch
Songwriters: Sean Rowe

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Mar 24 - 01:09 PM

I did, over a cuppa with Steve Hawking at Kings one afternoon. We came up with the whole lack hole thing. I did the thinking and he did the math.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Mar 24 - 09:06 AM

Only two tidbits of innovative cosmology have become apparent to me this decade. 1 is that the inflation theory is far from what we are led to believe leading to a much older universe than we deduced from background microwave radiation.
2 is that black holes are space-time generators.

There is a meme that says if you don't contribute a major discovery by 30 you never will. The problem is too many people believe that is true.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Mar 24 - 07:03 PM

The new physics we need to be open-source is actually almost a hundred years old. Much of that tech was explored by Thomas Thompson Brown Who died in 1985. Electrogravitics was one of his inventions that used high voltage low current science. The last 20% of this video explains his contributions. An explanation how UFO's work.

Sorry but classified info is often approached obliquely.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Mar 24 - 12:14 PM

My favorite mashup movie is on, The Day After Strangelove On the Beach.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Mar 24 - 08:40 PM

I keep getting signals from the universe, they're incoherent.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Mar 24 - 11:39 AM

Knowing Rap, I suspect he required his surgeon to use one of the fine steel weapons he has in his collection at home.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Mar 24 - 08:12 PM

Trephination refers to the process of creating a hole in the skull and, in specific cases, the nail and is one of the oldest surgical procedures documented to date. It has been used throughout history with the goal of relieving pressure; managing symptoms of head trauma, such as subdural and epidural hematomas; and accessing brain tumors. Trephination can be performed using a trephine, a drill, by scraping with an abrasive instrument, or for the hard headed, cutting with a jackhammer. Rare complications that may arise with trephination include infection and, if the dura matter surrounding the brain is damaged in the process, damage to the underlying blood vessels, meninges, and brain. Modern medicine has used trephination as part of treatments for frontal sinus disease, glaucoma, and subungual hematomas.

Newagers believe that Akashic memories and signals from the universe are enhanced with trephination.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 17 Mar 24 - 05:00 PM

The main thing is, you're home, Rapparee. You are a survivor.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Mar 24 - 03:44 PM

Surgery for chronic subdural hematoma. Four burr holes drilled. Drainage that messed up the tidy operating room. 3.5 weeks rehab, still going on but at home.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Mar 24 - 07:52 AM

It's great the pressure is off and you're home again.
Kate Middleton has had a rough time of it as well.
That's not to say you are not one tough cookie, a jaw-breaker, and a survivor extraordinaire. Mom would be jealous.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Mar 24 - 07:02 PM

From what he told me it wasn't hyperbole. Sounds uncomfortable!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 16 Mar 24 - 06:48 PM

Rapparee, what was that earlier post about getting holes drilled in your head? Was that BS or not?
Good to see you back, your silence had me worried.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Mar 24 - 06:28 PM

Good to see you back. You'll have to whip this thread into shape - too many folks want to come here to argue.

And Gilly - Passive/aggressive my ass - just bad spelling.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Mar 24 - 05:56 PM

Quark! Quark! Quark!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Mar 24 - 08:58 AM

Hi Mom! Yesterday they let me out of the hospital after 34 days in durance vile.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Mar 24 - 11:42 AM

dyslexia is a different door to perception that can have savant aspects but fails at school regimes. It is also a gift with negative externalities. Imagination and dreams make for poor science but truly great leaps do come from imaginative unlikely places in rare circumstances. These leaps are not intuitive and are often not accepted for years.

IF YOU TRY TO GRAVITATIONALIZE THE QUANTUM WORLD, people would think you are nuts since no one has succeeded with quantum gravity. However, if you allow macro gravity to convert to an electrical potential of a pair of gluons in the quantum world we may have united some important theories. Just look at dust bunnies that coalesce by electric charge or asteroidal dust that combines.

All energies seem to have the ability to exist in another form whether it is mass and energy or a neutrino which can metamorphose into a different neutrino. This notion would simplify many energy relationships. But in the meantime since we can't even find evidence for supersymmetry this idea will be put on hold.

Everyone who looks at it agrees that quantum mechanics is incomplete.
Finding its form of gravity will not complete its nature. Science has been called the new religion. It is true that most of it can be as dull as church. A great breakthrough will probably have to bypass administration.

Such a breakthrough will probably demonstrate that converting space into time may exceed the energy that converts mass into energy.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 12:34 PM

The connection between art and science is particularly evident to me lately. Trial and error with experimentation separates imagination from truth. It is a slow but accelerating process.

There is such a chasm between intelligence and wisdom I would say institutional insanity has been the predominant human story so far.
Our nuclear weapon race is but one example.
US gun policy is a microcosm of the mass destruction industry.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 12:19 PM

I think we have a 3 part disharmony going this morning.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 12:10 PM

Yeah, no.
You are not a victim. You are a discordant disharmony in err.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 11:55 AM

The skills required of an orthopedic surgeon are so far in advance of what even a master carpenter can do that what you're proposing is pure nonsense.
And SRS, you obviously know how to spell my handle correctly so please spare me the passive aggression.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 11:48 AM

My musical relationship with gillmor is that of a tritone.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 11:31 AM

Naturally, a well-trained orthopedist would benefit from well-honed carpentry skills which is not the nonsense Maggie implied.
My ultimate point is that our limited 5 senses can not image the quantum realm without a virtual imagination. Atoms are not spheres with orbiting particles like planetary mechanics. Atoms are more like vibrating energy fields that operate more like perpetual motion particle waves.

Imagination can unlock the concept that what we perceive as solid is actually empty space that also contains vibratory energy. Energy and mass are two aspects of the same thing just as space and time are a different aspect of a similar energy. It helps to have an artist's concept to imagine the reality of our quantum universe. The quality of the mind's eye and imagination is our best tool to know more of the universe and scientists speculate that we only know about 4% of reality. Math is our other best tool.

Even the art of music offers clues to the quantum world. It seems like a particle occupying the same space at the same time is a paradox but music allows for two or more frequencies in the same sound space without confusion. The wisdom of the music is that the relationship between the notes is most important in the effect it has.

It is said truth is beauty and beauty is truth. It is in our mind that beauty exists. If the universe has a consciousness it too may perceive beauty. If not, the universe is blind. I doubt that.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 10:23 AM

Well, I'm not doing anything tomorrow, if anyone needs a hinky joint scoped, I'm your man.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 10:16 AM

gillymore, you just identified the reason for this thread. So settle in for the nonsense or find a different thread.

I texted with Rap a few days ago - he is dealing with a medical situation (again).

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 09:09 AM

What a load of hooey. I was a skilled carpenter at one time, I doubt you would have wanted me to perform a hip arthroplasty on you.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 06:02 AM

As you might expect a skilled carpenter makes a superior orthopedic surgeon. The same is true of artists and astrophysicists. The reason is the skill of seeing in new imaginative ways with their mind's eye.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Mar 24 - 09:39 PM

He hasn't posted on Mudcat since February 8.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Mar 24 - 06:53 PM

Every heart has tasted bitter betrayal
We all know lies but the poor swim in them
Governments are famous for their lies
In troubled times truth is told silently
like the furtive solemn glances at a funeral.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Mar 24 - 06:19 PM

Worry goes to your empathetic credit. If there was bad news, it would travel faster than good news.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Mar 24 - 06:23 PM

I miss gnu filling my Facebook account with posts he shared. Haven't seen Rap for a little while. Hmmm. Travelling?

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Mar 24 - 04:46 PM

It gives all the oil and gas that it can give
But the USA just takes it all for granted
We forgive you when you hurt us
For a while we think you love the US
But all you really do is use us, what can we do, Texas
It's so hard to be a Texan
Every man is after something
Is it wrong when we give in
If we like the Constitution is it a sin
Every Walmart shooting we regret it
But it happens 'cause we let it
Is it the only way to hold you
'Cause your strong desires control you
And I just don't want to lose you, what else can we do, Texas
It's so hard to be a Texan
There is so much hate at your border
Is it wrong to let folks in
If you steal kids is it a sin
It's so hard to be a Texan
You win with the most executions
Is it wrong when you give in

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Mar 24 - 05:30 AM

I thought he said Fresno Sturgeon.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 03 Mar 24 - 04:59 PM

I miss Rapparee.
His last post here said he was to be treated by a narrow surgeon?

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Mar 24 - 08:16 AM

Once again I'm towed to the impound lot. At least there is no fine.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Mar 24 - 02:25 PM

Not sure where that last post was intended to go but it didn't fit the declutter thread so is parked over here where just about everything fits in somehow or other.

Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Mar 24 - 01:20 PM

What is toxic is the manipulation and addiction society. We used to be a tool and skill society. Now apps on your phone, that you do not know is there; will measure your dopamine reward levels and lets you play against AI features for your attention. Its not a fair fight.

Suicide levels have doubled for adolescents exposed to social trashing techniques by other users whose playground has addictive app features.
Speaking of users, there are drug users and tech users but for other things we are customers, clients or patients.

Smart and secure people can use the internet rabbit hole to investigate many issues. The negative rabbit holes are tunnels of disinformation like Pizzagate and the holy Trump. Tools of persuasion normally move slowly Like Nazi laws that gradually criminalized a certain branch of society. Facebook and other techs can move faster.

I addressed addiction by limiting hypnosis sessions to three. More than that would be considered unnecessary but possibly helpful. Apps have no limits on there growth. AI will never solve the problem of fake news. The existential threat is as real and abusive to democracy as slavery. Laws against addictive tech is a rational eventual outcome. I hope. But I am the odd man out who does not use or carry a digital phone.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Feb 24 - 07:08 PM

The last thing J Allan Hynek showed me what he was working on was a compendium of different types of UFO shapes. There were over 30 types but the one type that has been recorded since his death that did not appear in his collection is the dynamic type that separated into many like images from three to many and form patterns or shapes.

Over the last 60 years there is a progressive change in the shape and navigation abilities. Some earlier types do not appear anymore.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Feb 24 - 02:47 PM

With the sudden disappearance of my stalker, I found I was suffering from a version of the Stockholm effect. Perhaps he had found his true calling and became the author, editor, and publisher of 'Critic's Corner' where all critics of every genre were criticized.
It would have a companion book 'The Autocritocrisy of the World's Greatest Critic'.

While the book was full of glowing self-praise, 'Critics Corner' was a scathing digital profane diatribe of libelous insults. Perhaps the book propelled the online critics corner or simply the phenomenon of the most negative influencer caught on, but in no time there were more followers than on Truth Social.

This success was followed up with emails from MAGA internet threateners, Swatters, and apps from stalkers of young women influencers that have had threats via Venn diagram information of every person who was acquainted. Stalking and threatening turned out to be a huge industry.

Suddenly my exstalker was a small fish in a big sea. To be as important as he desired meant that he had to become a global villain and that did not have the appeal he had always wanted. Stopping hurt and torture had some withdrawal symptoms but soon he felt happier than before. He had time to enjoy life and lived happily ever after.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Feb 24 - 07:36 PM

The Invention of Race NPR listen here

Race distinction is as artificial as the Caste system.
The ancient Greeks had no concept of race, only different cultures.
Race was invented by a Portuguese man in the 14th century...

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Feb 24 - 08:14 AM

well oiled military weapons won't rust shut for hundreds of years.
The leading cause of childhood death isn't disease anymore.
There has never been an incident abhorrent enough to change a thing.

Sanity regarding guns will never be threatened by rational minds in America. Somehow crazy trumps common sense here.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Feb 24 - 06:11 PM

And it is a problem unique to the US, the number of gun shootings per capita.

MOM outta send Gluon out to retrieve all of those assault rifles and drop them into whatever volcano is newly churning out lava.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Feb 24 - 06:00 PM

My scatter shot thoughts on the Kansas City shooting today are about the emotions of all those involved; from the politicians that allow/encourage mass shootings to the hateful shooter to all the victims wounded physically or not.

Some politicians don't care, some will feign a prayer.
The shooter had a moment of satisfaction probably stemming from bullying at some point.
The victims include 8 children with gunshot wounds. What they are feeling is beyond my comprehension.

This rips apart the spirit, destroys hope and kills safety in all celebrations.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Feb 24 - 02:19 PM

I was thinking more about the term "average" than I was the rest of the content in that post.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 14 Feb 24 - 11:30 AM

Hate is a far more potent emotion than love, Stilly: a red rage takes rather longer to wear off than a pink glow. That's why political attack ads work. If you can get the masses to hate someone else (eg foreigners) enough, you've got a zombie army at your command.

.... Just make sure that, when you're leading your zombie army, you don't trip over. Oh, and aim at the institutions of learning first, as critical thinking is Kryptonite to a berserker.*

* Apologies for crashing gears in mid-metaphor without using the clutch.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Feb 24 - 10:31 AM

So much depends on context. When headlines say "Florida man" did this or that (in the non-Trump meaning) it tends to say average or below average who you've never heard of.

If you want to do the math then in the spread, 25% would be below average, you could give the middle 26 to 50% as average, and the top IQ or some other functional measurement to the 76-100% of the group. Or you could do 33.3 for each group.

100% of the people who vote for the majority of the GOP slate of electors at least have a screw loose if they can't figure out that they're being taken to the cleaners by Trump's gang.

Subject: Its time to condemn Simon Says games.
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Feb 24 - 09:18 AM

The 'average person' gets a bad rap.
At least I hope so. Most politicians are willing to say the average American is exceedingly stupid. Worse than that it is said stupid average people are in the majority.

IF true, those who can manipulate the average person must ensure that the average person stays stupid and never smarten up. There is plenty of evidence that the ignorance campaign is alive and well. Part of that campaign is to convince the rest of us that the average person is stupid. I believe that is a big fat lie.

Barricades to the smart average people are internet apps, cults, and weakest links to religion. Rewarding old hateful knowledge is also a strategy.

Its time to exclaim the wisdom of the average person.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Feb 24 - 05:02 PM

The first hospital in the USA was founded by Ben Franklin.
The second largest commodity in the world is concrete.
The red team will win the Super Bowl without a doubt.

all stuff I didn't know when I woke this morning.