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Thought for the day - February 5, 2000

katlaughing 05 Feb 00 - 07:08 AM
Little Neophyte 05 Feb 00 - 07:59 AM
Grey Wolf 05 Feb 00 - 08:30 AM
Night Owl 05 Feb 00 - 09:01 AM
catspaw49 05 Feb 00 - 09:11 AM
jeffp 05 Feb 00 - 09:42 AM
Amos 05 Feb 00 - 09:54 AM
JedMarum 05 Feb 00 - 09:58 AM
GUEST,DuoBanjo 05 Feb 00 - 10:00 AM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 05 Feb 00 - 10:00 AM
Áine 05 Feb 00 - 10:12 AM
Grey Wolf 05 Feb 00 - 10:52 AM
Sorcha 05 Feb 00 - 10:59 AM
GUEST,duobanjo 05 Feb 00 - 10:59 AM
katlaughing 05 Feb 00 - 11:02 AM
Áine 05 Feb 00 - 11:07 AM
catspaw49 05 Feb 00 - 11:15 AM
Sorcha 05 Feb 00 - 11:40 AM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 05 Feb 00 - 11:40 AM
katlaughing 05 Feb 00 - 11:49 AM
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Metchosin 05 Feb 00 - 12:41 PM
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Subject: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 07:08 AM

I live with the world's most anticipatory dog, a Border Collie. He is not only constantly watching and always ready for action, he works very hard at thinking what my next move might be. His intelligence can be downright scary at times.

It is as though we are playing out a chess game of life, for he has infinite patience and, despite his vigilance, is not a nervous or nerve-wracking dog in the least. Like a Fischer or Kasparov, he calmly, silently studies the lay of the land, eyebrows like independent question marks, going up and going down, until he has figured out his next move, based on my own, and we are off.

He is full of joy for life and an eagerness to please, with a modicum of reserve when it comes to the usual dog things: doesn't run off, never barks without a good reason, and eschews the company of his own kind.

Like a child, when he hears his "dad/s" vehicle pull up, he is at the door, which I open for the sheer joy of watching him race out to the truck, every inch of his body exuding utter happiness to look the fool in letting his "dad" know that he is glad he's come home. Or, if Rog doesn't come home at the usual time, like an old curmudgeon, he rattles the miniblinds, shoving his nose under them to glare out the window, and mutter/curse at me with deep gruffness.

There is not a day that goes by that he doesn't make us both laugh at the spontaneous love of life which fills his every pore. Joy, eagerness, calm acceptance, wanting to please; without disparaging those I've had before, I have to say he is the smartest and most engaging "furperson" I've ever had the pleasure of knowing. Here's to Merlee!

katlaughing


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 07:59 AM

Merlee sounds like a wonderful friend.
I lived in Smithers BC for a couple of years with my boyfriend Jeff. Halfway through the second year living there, I rescued a little puppy Bailey from the cruel hands of the neighbour living next door to us. Bailey became my buddy, never left my side. I never realized I could love something so deeply. I spent all my time with that dog.
Bailey was a blessing in disguise because bringing her into my life made it apparent to me that my relationship with Jeff would never survive. He and I could never build the foundation needed for the long run.
So Bailey and I moved out.

BB


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Grey Wolf
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 08:30 AM

Katlaughing,

A couple of days ago you started a thread on the need desirability of having a registration process. Many interesting points were made. I don't want to go into that again, anyone can read the relevant thread if they wish to argue that further.

However, I would point out something that you posted: "Right now, newbies who come here must really wonder. This is not the Mudcat of even a few months ago."

If I was a newbie, having been recommended the site as a good place to discuss folk and blues music I would indeed wonder when I found a personal eulogy to a dog.

Be honest, how many people here really want to know how much you love your dog?

Had you titled your post as 'BS: Why I love my dog' or something similar, it would perhaps have been a slight improvement. To any newbie, a thread entitled 'thought for the day' may well be an early stopping point.

I don't condone those contributors who have been openly mean and hostile to you, but I feel that you are almost encouraging it by posting this type of message.

Do you honestly think that the mudcat is the best place on the 'net to discuss favourite canine?

If you do, I hardly think that you are in a position to moan about the decline of the mudcat.

Wolf


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Night Owl
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 09:01 AM

thanks for the "THOUGHT FOR THE DAY" kat.....in my neighborhood is a pasture used for training Border Collies for sheep herding. Watching these dogs work with the enthusiasm and joy they possess is truly amazing. Your words also bring me warm memories of my dog who recently passed away, who during his long lifetime, never left my side.


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 09:11 AM

Dear Wolf,

The "Thought for the Day" has been running for a long time now, started by Peter T. and sometimes done by kat and others on weekends. Peter's "thoughts have been very free ranging covering a broad spectrum of subjects, some deeply emotional, some fun loving, and some others quite trivial. Kat has done the same thing. Postings and responses to the TOFD have also been free flowing and sometimes not related to the original. It is a well liked and enjoyed feature of many 'Catters. If it reflects badly on us, so be it.

Deep thoughts...Friendly stories...A few laughs....The occasional cry.........If someone is offended by this, maybe this is the wrong place.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: jeffp
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 09:42 AM

Well said, Spaw. I thoroughly enjoy the TFTDs and read them every day, even if I don't reply. Today's strikes home for me in a couple of ways. My sister has a border collie, Martha, who is absolutely amazing. The intelligence and joie de vivre of the breed is something to behold. Every time I come to visit I marvel at her eagerness to please and love everybody without being a serious pain (usually). Also, my daughter's cat died suddenly a few days ago, so we're going through the grieving process here. kat's post touched my heart and that's part of what the Mudcat is about. Thanks, kat.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Amos
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 09:54 AM

I think kat's description of her collie is a promising start to a thread called "Thought for a Day". And certainly qualifies as one.

For one thing, she makes some interesting observations about Merlee's abilities, and you have to wonder what the scope of his perceptions and awareness is.

Also, although the love of dogs is an ancient and well-recognized tradition, germane to any folk thread, as a thought for a day it is interesting that no-one has ever quite explained why this bond continues so strongly. It's not like we need them to bring possums down on Alvarado Avenue, or fetch buffalo steaks home from Walmart, if you see what I mean.

How come we feel so much more strongly for someone like Merlee than we would, say, for a pet rabbit? A particular Holstein? How does this interspecies affection work?

But gee, if it'll make us all happier, we can stick a folksong into the thread

Ol' Kat had a pup and she called him Merlee
To cheer her up when she felt surly
Merly thought the world of Kat
And loved ol' Rog even more'n that

Cho: C'mon Merlee, C'mon pup!
Come over here an' cheer me up!

I guess Kat, Rog an' Merlee ought to fill in the rest, since they know the scene.

Amos


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: JedMarum
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 09:58 AM

It always amazes me how dog people have an instant bond with one another, when they start talking about their dogs.

Nice thoughts, Kat. My wife and I have two Whippets, and though they are not quite so intellectually endowed as your Border Collie, they also bring moments of sheer joy and pleasure into our home.

Thanks for your Thought for the day. I normally read this thread, and enjoy the thoughts, though I infrequently respond. I had to speak up on this one, though!

Have you written any songs about your dog?


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: GUEST,DuoBanjo
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 10:00 AM

I guess I don't mind reading whatever is printed, As you all would call me, I'm a newbie. Just recently started playing Banjo, I guess I would kinda have to agree with Grey Wolf though, thinking I would find music stuff here, Here is my thought for the day:

Running down people is a bad habit, whether you are a gossip or a motorist.


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 10:00 AM

For the someone who is offended by The Mudcat Music Club.

That is the vitality and essence of this site. When you visit here, you find more than just a musical dictionary. It is a club; and when you visit a club you are a guest, or become a member. People who visit here find help when needed; music for pleasure or business, and a little bit of fun with like minded people. How do you get musical inspiration? Sometimes you can get it from the BS threads here. Go and read the Mudcat Songbook. These people are causing no harm, and enjoy each others company. I enjoy reading the inspirational words on these threads. Perhaps you should start your own puritanical forum mate, you obviously hate to use this one.

Those who are offended by gentle words on a site which is designed for people who share their music, and have become friends through it, (for friends surely we are) please go and find yourselves something serious to do in life; before it becomes too late. Yours,(Tired of Puritans)Aye. Dave


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Áine
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 10:12 AM

Thanks for this TFTD, kat. I've always been fascinated by the bond between humans and their animals. Dogs and cats figure extensively in this bond; but, I also wonder about the relationships that people form with almost every sort animal.

I'm reminded of the furor recently raised in New York City with the mayor's ban on ferrets. I have met a few ferrets at my vet's office; and frankly, I can't relate to the little rodents. However, when a local baseball player's wife brought in their pet tiger, I was first appalled that they would be keeping such an animal, but also totally transfixed by the tiger's entire demeanour and presence. I couldn't pull my eyes away from it. Why?

I currently share my family domicile with the best dog I've ever had the pleasure to know. Clyde, a large mixed breed, came to us from the ASCPA. There's not enough space on this forum for me to express his wonderful qualities and character. I'm so glad he 'found' us. But it is interesting to ponder why I feel so strongly about this particular dog, when I've had so many other dogs in my life. Do we project our own emotions and personalities onto our animals or are we truly responding to their own emotions and personalities?

A very interesting question.

-- Áine


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Grey Wolf
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 10:52 AM

Given the responses that have been posted to my message, I've obviously angered several people.

That was not my intention. Being a fairly new poster here, I had no inkling that 'thought for the day' was something that had been going on for a while, and was a thread designed to discuss anything and everything.

I would maintain that giving it a 'BS' heading would have helped.

But that is, in a sense, beside the point. This is supposedly a 'folk/blues' discussion forum. It has evolved a 'chat' dimension. That's fine with me.

I have a fair knowledge of English folk song - something I'm happy to share.

If I get more message from the like of 'Dave (the ancient mariner)' I shan't bother. I may have upset people, I didn't mean to. I was trying to make a reasonable point.

Wolf


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Sorcha
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 10:59 AM

Having known a few Border Collies in this life, my hat is off to anybody who lives with one. Corgis are enough for me! Another thought: Seems like most Folkies/Acoutic people end up with herding/working dogs, and other personality types are drawn to other Groups. Achievers=terriers, Execs=rare or sight hounds, etc. This says something about attitudes and lifestyle,but it's too early to really think it out. Good Morning!


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: GUEST,duobanjo
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 10:59 AM

This is to Dave: I did not say I hated this site. And yes I will continue to use it. I am no Puritan as you call me, I was just looking for music info, THATS ALL!!!!! boy I always wanted to go to Australia, AYE!!! but not if they all are as short tempered as you.... Since everyone wants to hear about family pets, here we go. I have a awesome German Shepard that is the size of a grown man on his hind legs. He is very protective of my kids and I wouldn't change a thing, then I have a Taco Bell chiquaha dog,she's just a yapper but she is a doll, then I have a Sun Conure(bird) that will give you a kiss whenever he is asked, and I have a cockatiel that thinks he is the prettiest thing around. Our Siamese thinks he rules the place and mostly eats and sleeps, but likes a good fight in the mornings, must get him ready for the day. So see I am no PURITAN DAVE.I too have pets and they are just like family.....


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 11:02 AM

A few months ago, Harpgirl asked if there was sexism on the Mudcat. Well, I am here to tell you phoaks, it sure feels like it. Seems like there are a few misogynists here who just can't wait to post a put down or criticism to us women.

Everyone knows the Thought for the Day is open to any subject and has NEVER been labelled BS. NOBODY has ever taken any of us who post them to task over their subject before.

DuoBanjo: you WILL find music here! Set the Thread time to 365 days and scroll through the myriad of threads on all things music. Do a Super Forum Search on just about any musical word/phrase you can think of and see what comes up. START YOUR OWN THREAD ON MUSIC! Scroll through the over 8,000 songs in the DigiTrad database. Look in any thread and you will eventually always find something related to music, especially in those labelled BS.

Grey Wolf, according to your posts you came here on Jan 21, this year. I noticed you had no problem with a previous TFTD I started, which was not specific to music.

If you don't think Mudcatters enjoy talking about their pets, then I would suggest you read this thread, from a year ago about the very same dog. This was LONG before the BS designation.

To the rest of you, thanks. I really just wanted to hear about your critters and thought that I had conveyed the love of life Merlee has and that would translate, maybe, into a discussion on it, as we do free associate sometimes on these particular threads.

No songs written about him yet. Thanks for the start Amos, but I don't think I'd post any here, anyway. The intolerance level is way too high.

kat (please remember, wiht a lower case "k"!!!)


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Áine
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 11:07 AM

Sorry, Grey Wolf, but if you going to post such messages as your first one in this thread, then be prepared to take it on the nose. Perhaps you should be more circumspect since you are new to this forum, and ask questions about a thread's value or relevance before adopting the tone you expressed before.

Your muscial knowledge is appreciated here on the Mudcat, certainly. My advice is that if you don't like a particular thread, then just don't read it. And if you want your knowledge and opinions to be accepted by us here on the forum, then please refrain from personal attacks such as those in your first message on this thread.

-- Áine


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 11:15 AM

Gee, I'm not sure about the classification thing Sorcha. Laying at....make that ON...my feet is a Blue, Long Hair, Weimaraner named Jaeger...the world's biggest couch potato and a congenital idiot. I've had several Weims and they are the most "Odie-like" dogs in the world, a gentle, loving breed. Jaeger is the most loving dog I've ever owned and although he is a few Milkbones short of a box, I don't know what we'd do without him. What a love.........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Sorcha
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 11:40 AM

Well, Weinm's are sort of "working" aren't they? They are hunting dogs, and that is work! It was just a thought to ponder, not a written in stone philosophy. :) :).


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 11:40 AM

kat I enjoy your postings very much. I regret the bad feeling generated by mine; on what should have been a gentle reflection on pets and life. I beg your pardon and the others here, for that.

Duobanjo.. I did not write in anger, if you perceive anger it is not so, forgive me. Dismay and distain perhaps, but never anger. I have never posted on threads that are not about my interest, out of respect for others who use this site; and avoided some when my own opinion would conflict and distress people on it. I suggest strongly that you do the same. The music is here Sir/Madame freely available, and you are welcomed here. Please do not blame the Australians either, I am an Englishman by birth and Canadian by choice; which had you read other threads more diligently, you would know. It behooves you to read and learn before dumping on these threads. Some have been here for a long time. I enjoyed your contribution about your pet; and look forward to sharing more music with you.

Guy Wolf, I beg your forgiveness if you perceive that anger was directed at you, again not so. The amount of complaining about non musical threads has just about gone as far as it will go. Most people here enjoy the Mudcat for all it has to offer. If you look at the threads here, the only contention raised is by the few against the many. All of us are here because of our love of music; but it is not the only purpose and reason for our being here. A simple plea to "lighten up" is all I ask. I cannot read music or play an instrument, but love singing, and listening to those who can. I have found much to enjoy here, and do not want the contention to continue, for it creates rancour and strife which has no enjoyment for anyone.

Again, I appologise for disturbing this thread. Yours,Cordially,Aye. Dave


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 11:49 AM

Aw, Dave, just stuff it willya!**BG** We all need to lighten up.

I was writing my post when DuoBanjo & GREY (Guy Wolff is another member)Wolf posted again and I would just like to thank them both for being honest about who they are, i.e. posting under real nicknames and for having convictions they are not afraid to put their names to.

katlaughing


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 11:53 AM

Yeah Sorcha, they are gun dogs and excellent hunters with the somewhat unique ability to course, point, and retrieve. But they have gained a lot of recognition in the past few years for their loving and docile nature. Bill Wegman's funny pictures and videos have become widely recognized by young and old. Most of us get attached to a breed and I'm obviously a Weimie lover.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Metchosin
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 12:41 PM

Sorcha, I have on occasion seen references to people's occupations and personalities being linked to the breed of their dogs. However, when I review locally, amongst the people I know, it doesn't seem to fit. As an owner of a West Highland White Terrier and a Terrier/Long Haired Dachshund cross, I would like to believe that I might be an achiever, but somehow, if you knew me, it doesn't quite fit, at least in the conventional sense.

Maddy the Westie, does have a folk connection though.She was named for Maddy Prior, but Old Wort came from the SPCA, with the handle of Worthington, so we just called him Wort for Short, and try as I might, I somehow can't make a folk connection there.

The fiddle tune, The March of the Dogs, written by my brother on their last CD, was in honour of his Chihuahua/Terrier cross, Butch, so there goes the breed/occupation connection there.

Our dogs have given us one on life's greatest joys, laughter. However, Maddy also has a practical function, as well, as she is our primary rat killer, a duty which she performs with relish ; far more quickly than a trap or poison and more humanely than a cat, she more than earns her keep, and continues the tradition of what she was bed to do.

Boy, us dog people can sure go on...and on...and on.


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Áine
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 12:52 PM

Dear Metchosin,

Surely you meant 'of what she was BRED to do', didn't you? Well, I guess, in the doggie world, it would make sense your way, too . . . ;-)

-- Áine

(Well, you knew *somebody* was gonna say it, didn't ya?)


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Subject: Lyr Add: DOG (Tom Dundee)
From: BlueJay
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 01:01 PM

DOG
Written by Tom Dundee
As recorded by Tom Dundee on "Lyfe Tyme Arhyme" (1997)

Well, I guess it started 'cause it looked like fun
When other people had a dog; "I'm gonna get me one,"
I said, "and have a little friend around the place."
So I went to the pet store down the street,
And lyin' in the middle of a canine heap
Was a sleepy little fellow with a quiet sort of face.

I handed over twenty-five dollars about.
I said, "I'll stick him in my shirt and just head on out"
And I reached for the one that looked like a little red fox.
It was then I was told about a collar and a leash,
And to take him in for shots in a couple of weeks,
And it was store policy to take him out in a box.

They folded up a cardboard crate in a minute,
Took my dog and stuck him down in it,
Pushed down his head, and folded in over the top,
And I can hear it yet how he scratched and cried,
And I stuck him in my shirt when we got outside,
But we was almost home before he decided to stop.

Well, the next few weeks were certainly strange
Between the barkin' and the thinkin' up of names.
Old Blue he wasn't, and Spot didn't really apply,
So I settled on Harry, just because
That's how he is, and that's how he was,
And that's how the house gets more and more as days go by.

For a time I was careful where I sat.
The rug got funky and he chewed up my hat,
And it still happens once in a while when he gets mad,
But it's been pretty even after all.
I taught him what I know about playin' ball,
And he's helped me get rid of a lot of stuff I used to have.

Sometimes friends drop by for a couple of beers.
We all sit around, take turns rubbin' his ears
And callin' him; it's been that way ever since he was a pup,
And he sleeps on the bed, and when I turn over,
He turns over, and then I turn over,
And then he turns over, and then we get up.

As my life keeps movin' through the different conditions,
The big changes come with the slightest decisions,
And you're in for a surprise when you think you got it figured, I've found,
'Cause who ever thought I'd ever dote on a pet?
But lookin' back now, I always forget
How I filled up the time before that dog was around.

Yeah, I guess it started 'cause it looked like fun
When other people had a dog; "I'm gonna get me one,"
I said, "and have a little friend around the place."

There you go Kat- the link from your Thought directly to folk music. Funny how almost any subject has a song already written about it, it may just need to be brought to the surface. As a newcomer to this great site, I think just about anything goes as you never know what will jar a tune from someone's memory cache. By he way, I first heard this song from Brian Bowers many years ago, I don't know if it's on any of his albums, but it's spoken rather than sung, a really simple C-F-G type of thing.

Thanks for the Memories, BlueJay.


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: BlueJay
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 01:04 PM

Sorry about the typos, I should have read it before posting. Is it possible to go back in and fix such things?


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Metchosin
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 01:14 PM

Don't worry BlueJay, I don't know the difference between bed and bred. Come to think of it, regarding myself, that may be true and not a typo.


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Subject: Lyr Add: DOG (Tom Dundee)
From: Áine
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 01:15 PM

Here ya go, BlueJay. I hope I got the line breaks right. And don't worry about typos around here -- they give us some of the more interesting discussions we have!

-- Áine


DOG
Written by Tom Dundee
As recorded by Tom Dundee on "Lyfe Tyme Arhyme" (1997)

Well, I guess it started 'cause it looked like fun
When other people had a dog; "I'm gonna get me one,"
I said, "and have a little friend around the place."
So I went to the pet store down the street,
And lyin' in the middle of a canine heap
Was a sleepy little fellow with a quiet sort of face.

I handed over twenty-five dollars about.
I said, "I'll stick him in my shirt and just head on out"
And I reached for the one that looked like a little red fox.
It was then I was told about a collar and a leash,
And to take him in for shots in a couple of weeks,
And it was store policy to take him out in a box.

They folded up a cardboard crate in a minute,
Took my dog and stuck him down in it,
Pushed down his head, and folded in over the top,
And I can hear it yet how he scratched and cried,
And I stuck him in my shirt when we got outside,
But we was almost home before he decided to stop.

Well, the next few weeks were certainly strange
Between the barkin' and the thinkin' up of names.
Old Blue he wasn't, and Spot didn't really apply,
So I settled on Harry, just because
That's how he is, and that's how he was,
And that's how the house gets more and more as days go by.

For a time I was careful where I sat.
The rug got funky and he chewed up my hat,
And it still happens once in a while when he gets mad,
But it's been pretty even after all.
I taught him what I know about playin' ball,
And he's helped me get rid of a lot of stuff I used to have.

Sometimes friends drop by for a couple of beers.
We all sit around, take turns rubbin' his ears
And callin' him; it's been that way ever since he was a pup,
And he sleeps on the bed, and when I turn over,
He turns over, and then I turn over,
And then he turns over, and then we get up.

As my life keeps movin' through the different conditions,
The big changes come with the slightest decisions,
And you're in for a surprise when you think you got it figured, I've found,
'Cause who ever thought I'd ever dote on a pet?
But lookin' back now, I always forget
How I filled up the time before that dog was around.

Yeah, I guess it started 'cause it looked like fun
When other people had a dog; "I'm gonna get me one,"
I said, "and have a little friend around the place."


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 01:23 PM

Knock it off about those dogs folks! Duckboots and I have the two finest little creatures on the face of the planet scurrying around at ankle level. Katey-cat and Ali-cat RULE! Through them we have learned the true meaning of the word "anthrapomorphic".

Rick (being sucky)


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: wysiwyg
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 01:27 PM

I am a newbie and I like the variety of thoughts thatwere provoked by this thread's initiator. Does it belong in Mudcat? Mudcat to me is lots like the monthly funb jam/playaround/singaround we do with friends. Sometimes we play, sometimes we catch up on how our lives are going, sometimes we talk about people we know, sometime I bet we will talk about dogs. Some of those conversations become songs.

Mudcat is good enough to be what it is. It is kind of wacky to go online and find weird stuff in a music site but just where would any thinking person put the censorship line???? Let it police itself.. what isn't of general interest won't be responded to and the people who post that kind of stuff will simply go away when they get bored. Mudcat can be as individsualistic or as group-think as possible, and both at the same time. I don't see how you could impose much more order on it than already is there. As a newbie I'm just grateful it's here and hope to contribiute as much as I get out of it or, better, more. Newbies who come in with any other attitude don't interest me much anyhow.


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Metchosin
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 01:47 PM

Aine, slightly off topic but in the same vein as typos, we have a saying, re: "the ducks curtail here", whenever someone uses the wrong word, which I do quite often (my brain turns to mush). I was editing a report, many years ago, where a summer student attempted to add "weight" to his work, with the use of his thesaurus and I doubled up on the floor with laughter. That phrase, among a number of others, has forever stuck in this household.


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Troll
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 01:52 PM

If I don't like a thread, I don't respond to it. This is a community of people with different interests but all allied in a love of music. Over the years some Catters have become good friends and , as friends will do, send "in-group" messages but I have never seen anyone cut out of those conversations. I put in my two cents and sometimes there is a response and sometimes not but I don't feel shut out. I have started B.S. threads and they have been responded to. Whats the difference if the TFD isn't about music? Theres plenty of other threadsthat are.

(Sorry. I tend to go on when I get started. Just too lazy to quit.)

I have a Manx cat named Orry who is my constant companion. He even goes for walks with me around the neighborhood.

troll


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: BlueJay
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 01:56 PM

Thanks, Aine, you nailed it. Wish I knew how you did that. I typed it just like you did, but it came out with all the lines run together. I have the same problem with e-mails. And how did you get that apostrophe over the A in your name? Tut-tut Fielding, there must be a cat thread somewhere.


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 01:57 PM

OH, Rickeeee!! Your cat wasn't named after MOI, was she??? Used to sign all of my production orders "Katey-kat"!!!**BG** Oh, and I knew one of us cat people would have to stir the pot! Sheesh! You KNOW poor Merlee is outnumbered at my house!

Welcome to the Mudcat, Praise and thnak you for your words.

Wolf, please DO share your music with us. We love to do that, too.

DuoBanjo, your BIG dog sounds great. My other one, who passed on almost a year ago, was half Dobie & half German Shepherd. He was VERY mouthy and would sing/cuss/say "I love you" on cue. I think it was the Dobie in him, from what I've seen of the breed. Is your GS very vocal?

BLUE JAY - THE SONG WAS GREAT!! THANKS!!

Thanks all,

katlaughing


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Metchosin
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 01:57 PM

Gee Rick, I have this theory about the differnce between Cat and Dog people, but we have enough things that bring up animosity here, that I for one will not go there.....*BG* or did I already do that by just mentioning it?....shame on me...


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 02:24 PM

Yeah Mets, but what do you do about us "BOTH" people? We also have half adozen cats methodically destroying most of our home when they aren't sleeping (16 hours a day), eating, (voraciously), excreting various vile things (equally voraciously), or laying on our laps (hard to sit without cat accompaniment). I think this is one reason Jaeger is such a screw-up. One of the cats is his best friend and they all sample his dog food before he eats...he just lays there patiently waiting. Dogs have a healthyy respect for those claws.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 02:41 PM

LOL! Spaw, you have just described my home, too!!!


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 02:45 PM

I have a friend who is collecting songs and poems about pets. I would love to give her some contributions from the Mudcatters.
If you have a song or a poem about your pet or know of a good one and wouldn't mind sharing it, I would appreciate a reply to my personal mail or email address: bkumer@the-wire.com
I think she would like to eventually publish the collection so please include the author's name or who to contact for authorization.

BB


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 02:59 PM

You could always just post it here like Blue Jay did.
I think many people would enjoy them.

BB


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Metchosin
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 03:49 PM

Jeez, I don't know what to do about that Spaw, I'm of two minds too!....... well probably quite a bit more doggy than catty....well maybe not.

Dogs a very imprtant to Music! How would some of us tune our instruments without them!!

My Dog Has Fleas!!!


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Metchosin
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 03:56 PM

Those last two lines are my best impression of a Westy yapping!!!!


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Áine
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 04:08 PM

Dear BlueJay,

When you want to make sure a line will break where you want it to, at the end of the line type a < then type BR then type > Don't put any spaces between the brackets and the BR. That should work. And if you want to do special characters like the Á in Áine, click here and you'll find a table for special characters in HTML.

Good luck! -- Áine


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Thomas Covenant
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 04:19 PM

I don't have to go through that, Áine; I hit AltGr, character for the French 'grave' accent, and then the letter itself irregardless of capitals. Á and á are basically the same keystrokes.
Any ideas on why this is? (Ø Æ Å, and more besides)


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: JenEllen
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 04:28 PM

Lovely stuff folks. I see and hear these stories first hand on a daily basis, and still my heart warms to hear about the love that humans are capable of offering their fellow creatures. I also get to see the flip side on a daily basis as well, and have rescued more than my fair share of the critters. I currently share a home with a wonderful mutt "Angus the Destroyer" a.k.a "Thunderpaws" whom I rescued from a campground where some hunters were trying to burn his whiskers off in the campfire. Angus went from a terrifed bundle of fur, to a constant hiking companion and footwarmer. We also share residence with a purr-son of the feline variety who's owners let him eat a bottle of Tylenol, and then decided the vet bills (mine) were just too high. "Sully the Indifferent" a.k.a "Slobberjaws" is a terror of epic proportions, and a lap warmer and reading partner extrordinaire. For all of those who matter (i.e. give a shite)...this is submitted for the musical content of the thread. It was given to me by a friend...why he thought it sounded like me, I'll never know....

Well he walked into her life without a warning
You could say he threw himself into her car
It sometimes takes a desperate measure to be rescued
Sometimes even desperate measures go too far

She took him home, she thought that he looked hungry
She didn't stop to wonder if he'd stay
She cleaned him up, made sure he wasn't injured
And that dog's been with us ever since that day

We call him Fender
Just like my guitar
Yeah we named him Fender
He threw himself into our lives
When he threw himself into her car

Now like many folks we rented an apartment
With no space for a growing dog to roam
But puppies need a yard that they can play in
So the next thing that we knew we'd bought a home
And then Fender ate a pincushion and a one pound box of chocolates
He doesn't like it when we leave him home alone to long
Now we take him with us almost everywhere we go
He's waiting in the van while I'm singing you this song

And we named him Fender
Just like my guitar
Yeah we call him Fender
He threw himself into our lives
When he threw himself into our car

So new we've got a minivan and mortgage
And I guess it hasn't done us too much harm
But you never know where life is going to lead you
And if she hits a horse
We'll have to buy a farm....

Thanks kat for the wonderful TFTD...Luv Thunderpaws, Slobberjaws, and the Blue Yodel Veterinarian


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Metchosin
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 04:37 PM

Gee, just found another trick on the Mac, courtesy of my daughter. Á Á Á Áine. Option, hold it down for the letter "E" then type the letter "A" or whatever....wow!


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Metchosin
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 04:48 PM

Thank you JenEllen! Spaw, speaking of strays, our cat still has to BEWARE OF DOG and cannot put them in their place, some idiot had her declawed before she adopted us. Makes it sort of hard for a bush cat, but she seems to do alright.


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 05:03 PM

Jenellen! great song! Thanks, to you and Slobberjaws & Thunderpaws! Love those names!!


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 05:50 PM

Yeah, but I don't know how the names would work for an exotic dancer (see that thread).

--seedwhoshareshislittlehousewithawifeandtwolabradors


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 08:30 PM

This song is a bit long, but it's true:

One is lying by the fireside,
one is lying by the door.
One is looking out the window.
Seems Little Cat is gone for sure.
Lonely days are here once more,
standing at the open door,
lonely days, and lonely nights
- seems nothing ever works out right.


On the day we'd planned to collect them
a message came - they'd run away.
Mother Cat was tired of kittens,
she'd led them in the woods to stray.

It seemed we weren't to have those kittens,
too bad for us, but worse for them.
Three days, then news we'd hardly hoped for,
the kittens had come home again.
Lost there in the woods at midnight,
tiny balls of fur and bone,
foxes, dogs and roaring cars -
God knows how, they'd made it home.


I still remember how we fetched them
from the farm where they were born.
Huddled up and lost and lonely,
clung together to keep warm.

Little Cat and Little Brother,
she was queen and he was clown,
All their lives were twined together -
then one morning, she was gone.

Standing at the empty window
like a sentry at hisn post.
Searching in the empty garden
like a little golden ghost.


We searched around, we climbed the fences,
asked the neighbours one by one,
made a notice with a picture -
nothing more we could have done.
Lonely days are here once more,
standing at the open door,
lonely days, and lonely nights
- seems nothing ever works out right.


Sitting looking out the window,
heard a knocking on the pane,
heard a noise like someone crying -
Little Cat came home again.

Times of trial, times of trouble,
times aren't easy, that's for sure.
But tonight we're all together,
Little Cat came home once more.


One is lying by the fireside,
one is standing by the door,
one is eating in the kitchen -
Little Cat is home once more.

Whether you lose a cat or a person, all loss touches the same place.

(And kat, for once I don't agree with something you say - I reckon, if it had been a bloke who started this post, it would have evoked much the same response. Which wasn't that unfriendly - it can take a bit of time to understand how this place works with the songs turning into chat and the chat turning into songs.)


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Áine
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 08:37 PM

A Chaoimhin,

Is that song yours, what's the title, and may I please add it to the Mudcat Songbook?

See Grey Wolf and DuoBanjo, this is what I was talking about. Some of the best music pops up in these "non"-music threads!

-- Áine


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Mbo
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 08:41 PM

Great song, Elle! The Mudcat's resident singing vet does it again!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 08:42 PM

Duly noted, Kevin, through the tears! Can you hear my heartstrings?? You really plucked them there. Beautiful. Thanks for sharing. I am so glad she came home!

katweeping


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 08:45 PM

Yes, it's my song, and I'd love it to be in the MudcaT Songbook. (I haven't ever got round to put it on my website.)

I called it Company of Cats.(/I> If you think any other title would be better, such as Little Cat, use that if yoiu wish. I don't sing it too often, not with the cynical buggers I tend to hang around with in sessions. But I'm fond of it.

And the Cats involved are still with us.


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 09:06 PM

Well....I guess I can't resist saying something.

I've got no complaint about the border collie discussion. The "Thought for the Day" threads seem like a good place to discuss such things. Besides, I like border collies...

But since it's at least the third time I've seen such a comment, I think I'd like to raise an objection. I don't think the charge of misogynism is warranted. If people disagree with what you say on Mudcat, I think it's likely that it's because of the content of what you say, not because of your gender. Grey Wolf made no sexist remarks - all he/she did was disagree with a woman.

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Night Owl
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 09:06 PM

Thank you Mcgrath...not ONLY for the song but your comment about loss.


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Sorcha
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 09:06 PM

I hope this isn't red, I been playing in the html thread. What a SONG!! I'm gonna have to buy stock in a tissue company! WOW! Aside, isn't that just like cats? Dogs come, cats take a message and get back to you, maybe. Don't jump on me, we have 4, plus temporary strays. There is a Hobo mark on the back fence.


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Subject: RE: Thought for the day - February 5, 2000
From: Áine
Date: 05 Feb 00 - 09:09 PM

A Chaoimhín,

Seo duitse d'amhráin go iontach ar an Mhudcat Songbook! Go raibh míle maith agat, a chara chóir.

Kevin, your song's now on the Mudcat Songbook. I did call it 'Little Cat,' if that's alright with you. Please have a look at it and let me know if I need to make any corrections. Thank you so much for sharing it with all the Mudcatters. It's a lovely song.

Do chara, Áine


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