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Bronze VS Steel

GUEST,lloyd61 19 Mar 00 - 07:59 PM
GUEST,lloyd61 19 Mar 00 - 08:02 PM
JedMarum 19 Mar 00 - 08:21 PM
GUEST,Dan 19 Mar 00 - 10:03 PM
rangeroger 19 Mar 00 - 10:35 PM
canoer 20 Mar 00 - 01:33 AM
GUEST,lloyd 22 Mar 00 - 12:31 AM
Easy Rider 22 Mar 00 - 12:38 PM
Easy Rider 22 Mar 00 - 12:39 PM
Clinton Hammond2 22 Mar 00 - 12:55 PM
canoer 22 Mar 00 - 01:43 PM
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Subject: Bronze vs Steel
From: GUEST,lloyd61
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 07:59 PM

Bronzed Vs Steel

Recently I purchased a set on Martin Acoustic / Performance Guitar strings. For years I have been using Martin Marquis. The difference is in the E (1) and B (2) strings. The Marquis are Silvered Steel while the Studio / Performance are Bronzed Steel. After using the Guitar for a week now, I think I like the Silvered Steel better than the Bronze. The Bronze is a little to bright for me. I'm also not sure about the life of the Bronze strings. Any Comments?


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Subject: RE: Bronze VS Steel
From: GUEST,lloyd61
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 08:02 PM

O'no now I'm a Guest!!!

I guess I have been gone to long.

lloyd61


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Subject: RE: Bronze VS Steel
From: JedMarum
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 08:21 PM

guest lloyd? Probably lost yer cookie. Go to the membership page and sort yerself out!

String question? I believe the Marquis are a phosphor mix, and they have a very bright sound. I am not a fan of phosphur since it seems to react to the sweat in my hand - and I destroy a set in a night. I try to avoid phosphur, as a result, but most string seem to contain some. Elixers have a pretty good sound, and last forever, but I dislike the feel - they seem a bit small and light. I like the Martin Bronze, and I also use the SPs.


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Subject: RE: Bronze VS Steel
From: GUEST,Dan
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 10:03 PM

Lloyd, I'm not familiar w/ the Acoustic/Performance Strings so for the purpose of this reply I'm going to assume they are the SP (Studio/Perfomance) strings which are Phosphor Bronze and have the bronzed steel E & B strings. I think they are a bit brighter, as you suggest, and I've also found that the strings last longer than any of the other Martin strings I've used. I haven't tried the Elixers yet, I'm being stubborn about the high tech coating business and holding on to that inner need to change strings frequently! Good luck. I'll be interested in other folk's opinions on strings.


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Subject: RE: Bronze VS Steel
From: rangeroger
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 10:35 PM

I can't answer about the E and B strings as all the sets I use seem to be plain steel.I have used Brass wound strings for the past 25 years or so becuse of the same problem with body chemical reaction to anything else.
They are quite a bit brighter than phosphor-bronze but retain that brightness for a long time.I also used to kill a set of strings in one night, but with the brass wound I've gone months without having to change strings.Plus,once they're tuned in they stay there like I had welded the tuners.
Part of that is my guitar,but the strings really respond.
I used to use Guild special alloy brass,but they have become exceedingly difficult to find.Now I get D'aquisto Brass Masters over the internet for about $3.50 a set.Use them on both the six-string and the twelve.
rr


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Subject: RE: Bronze VS Steel
From: canoer
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 01:33 AM

For the past three years, as a beginner, I just stuck to Martin SPs. They always stretched a lot in the first few weeks, needed lots of tuning.

A Mudcatter suggested D'Addario brand. I tried the 80/20 bronze. Put them on and from the first they never went far out of tune. That alone was satisfying!

I can see where the 80/20s would sound overly bright. Due to a great guitar and a poor ear, I don't mind a bit.


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Subject: RE: Bronze VS Steel Update
From: GUEST,lloyd
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 12:31 AM

Bronze update.....

After an evening of playing on the new SP strings I think I can say I don't care for the bright sound of the E and B strings. they seam to buss. It could have been the music (Bluegrass) I should have had a heavier gauge.

I have never used Elixir strings on my guitars but have enjoyed them on my Mandolins. They seam to produce a mellow sound, and last forever.


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Subject: RE: Bronze VS Steel
From: Easy Rider
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 12:38 PM

I don't know why most everybody says the 80/20 strings are brighter than the Phosphor Bronze ones. I think the 80/20 strings are mellower and richer in tone.

Am I crazy?


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Subject: RE: Bronze VS Steel
From: Easy Rider
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 12:39 PM

I don't know why most everybody says the 80/20 strings are brighter than the Phosphor Bronze ones. I think the 80/20 strings are mellower and richer in tone.

Am I crazy?

DON'T ANSWER THAT!


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Subject: RE: Bronze VS Steel
From: Clinton Hammond2
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 12:55 PM

Yes you are Easy Rider...

But who here isn't?!?! LOL!!!!!

{~`


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Subject: RE: Bronze VS Steel
From: canoer
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 01:43 PM

Easy Rider, just speaking as a beginner here -- the guitar itself seems to have a lot to do with the sound of the strings? On my old guitar the SPs sounded overly tinny -- but my new D18 just swallows up all the objectionables. Even more so for the 80/20s. (Aren't they cool?)


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Subject: RE: Bronze VS Steel
From: Scotsbard
Date: 22 Mar 00 - 05:57 PM

Regarding the initial bright sound of strings; the sizes of the strings, and relative size and spacing of the windings makes much more difference than the material. Put "string" and "90" days into the filter box to catch some previous discussions.

I'd be the first to agree that some guitars sound better with particular string sets, but always figured that the deck bracing and bridge geometry were more significant than the string manufacturer. (Last I heard, all of the wire was produced in only a few shops, and what we buy is mostly just cut into handy lengths and packaged.)

Depending on what I'm playing, I'll even juggle the sizes a little bit, such as dropping the low E from .053 to .050 so that I can rattle it on the frets for a dirty blues sound, or up to .057 for clean celtic base lines.

~S~


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