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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: mousethief Date: 21 Sep 00 - 06:52 PM That's okay. I'm a big Al Stewart fan, and I don't think he EVER recorded a traditional standard. Dougie seems to be in much the same category, near as I can tell from the Dougie CD I have. I also like the traditional stuff, but my taste doesn't END there. Hope that's okay to the -um- ultra-strict. Actually I don't give a rat's patoot if it's okay to the ultra-strict. I also like jazz, classical, rock, etc. etc. etc. So sue me.
Alex
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Mbo Date: 21 Sep 00 - 06:48 PM Yeah, but just about all of his music is self-penned. But he did do a traditional album called "Tribute." Besides, Dougie loves electric guitars, sythesizers, and electronic drum programming. Personally, I love his stuff and is one of my biggest influences & idols, but he's not exactly a ultra-strict traddy's (to avoid that OTHER phrase) idea of folk music. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: mousethief Date: 21 Sep 00 - 06:39 PM That explains a lot. There are people who are both, though, right? I mean, Paxton is definitely a singer-songwriter, but I've also seen a CD of his that is nothing but "traditional" folk standards (Betsy from Pike, Foggy Foggy Dew, etc.).
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Mbo Date: 21 Sep 00 - 06:35 PM HELLOOOOO! Dougie MacLean is a songer-songwriter, not a folk singer! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: mousethief Date: 21 Sep 00 - 06:32 PM We have a Lark in the Morning in Seattle, praises be! It's hard to go in there without spending money in large quantities, however. Sigh. If only time and finances weren't an issue, I'd play every instrument and never do anything else. I think there's a Dusty Strings up in Freemont, but I've never been by when it was open. Were you wondering what I was doing in a Borders? It happened to be there, and open, when I drived by. I have "The Dougie McLean Collection" cd. Wonderful stuff, but not exactly "traditional" near as I can tell. Thanks for the names, though! I shall inscribe them on my "stuff to look for" list and try to keep it at hand more often!
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 21 Sep 00 - 06:24 PM If you seek to play like Mississippi John Hurt, or 'Reverend Gary', 'Mr. Johnson', and the like, I would suggest you follow your metronoming thumb to the blues section, and pull out 'Catfish Keith'. It seems you might like Willy McTell... Otherwise,
Anything by William Pint and Felicia Dale. If you must go to Borders,... try 'Altan', 'Magical Strings', John McCutcheon, or early 'Dougie MacLean'. If you like drinking songs,... The Clancy Btothers w/Tommy Makem. Otherwise, go to your local 'Folk' outlet, such as 'Lark in the Morning', 'Dusty Strings', etc., where the Traditional music florishes even today.
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: mousethief Date: 21 Sep 00 - 04:07 PM Hey, Thomas the Rhymer. No hard feelings. I have a question, and since this is a throwaway thread anyway, a little thread creep (like me) won't hurt anything. I was at Border's last night, and wanted to get a CD I could listen to that would be real, "traditional" folk stuff. I was completely unable to determine, based on the backs of the CD's, what I should buy and so I ended up not getting anything. Waaah. Has there already been a thread about good, "traditional" folk CD's -- kind of a "your collection isn't really complete without" or even "this is really the good, old stuff"? I certainly didn't see "The Complete Child Ballads according to Traditional Tunes, Volume I" or anything remotely resembling that. So if you were at Border's with me last night and I said I had a 20 spot burning a hole in my pocket, and asked you which CD to get for some good old "traditional" folk, whither would you have steered me? (PS my social skills are so-so, but I can type real good, have something of a sense of humor, and have this bizarre gift of thinking up funny song lyrics in short order, for which thanks be to the God(esse)s of your choice.)
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Eric the Viking Date: 21 Sep 00 - 03:45 PM I'm better than all of you because when I read this thread I decided not to post to it-Oh Bollocks!-fell for that one............. humbly yours, not worth the slime or spit from your harmonica. Eric the Viking, not even fit to lick the grease from a Bodhran (happy?). I don't mind admitting that I am inferior amongst such an auspicious bunch of people. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: annamill Date: 21 Sep 00 - 01:04 PM Well said Art! Love, Annamill |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 21 Sep 00 - 12:58 PM How cuddly you can be...
You are one heck of a peacemaker (or was it pacemaker...) peace-love-'67...peace-love-'67...peace-love-'67...peace-love-'67...peace-love-'67...peace-love-'67...peace-love-'67... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: catspaw49 Date: 21 Sep 00 - 12:48 PM Of course not T my friend.....And there are several threads running right now to say the least. Feel free to start another i or 200!!! What specifically do you want to talk about? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 21 Sep 00 - 12:27 PM Thanks Mousey! I am sorry, truly. It is not credentials I was wanting, cause there is no such thing. I'm not gifted socially like you are, and so... I am jealous. I wonder though, am I really so out on a limb wanting to talk about folk/trad music? I guess I will just have to go back to my music room... Oh darn!!! ttr |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Mbo Date: 21 Sep 00 - 11:51 AM But hesperis, my classical guitar teacher told me that eating bananas raises endorphin levels, thus making you feel ALLLLLLLRIGHT! I think he was eating bananas when he wrote Rainy Day Women. Love that song! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Lepus Rex Date: 21 Sep 00 - 11:24 AM Hey, it got Jesse Ventura elected... ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: mousethief Date: 21 Sep 00 - 10:53 AM Thought it was an awfully hairy baby.
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 21 Sep 00 - 10:49 AM (looks bashful, scuffs toe in dust) Aw shucks, boss, you've made me all 'barrased. RtS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: catspaw49 Date: 21 Sep 00 - 10:42 AM But Skiff.....Your continued service as administrator and bedpan cleaner at the NYCFTTS far out weigh your shortcomings. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 21 Sep 00 - 10:36 AM Why you're better than I am: You can probably play a musical instrument You can probably sing in key You can probably remember all the words You can probably quote facts from memory and get them right Your jokes are probably new and funny You probably enjoy lots of music from the last four decades You probably don't look as if you were dressed by Man at Oxfam despite the efforts of your nearest and dearest (and M&S) You probably like cats You probably refrain from jumping in to contribute to threads to which you can add no knowledge, and never use them to make a cheap aside, a boring anecdote or a tired joke You never mention L***** D*****. You're on first name terms with Pete, Jack,Swarb,Liza... You have an online connection at home and don't have to post as a GUEST from work.. Ooops that reminds me, coffee break over.. Tara RtS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: catspaw49 Date: 21 Sep 00 - 10:32 AM That's not a baby....Its Lepus' butt. Ya' need to be careful what you're kissing MT. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: mousethief Date: 21 Sep 00 - 10:16 AM Since this has turned into (at least in part) a referendum on my credentials as a folkie, let me weigh in with some evidence. 1. Posted a note on the Can I Play Like Doc Watson thread about how I learned to fingerpick using a metronome. 2. Started a thread (ill-advisedly, I admit, given that one already existed) about favourite collections of folk songs. 3. Started a thread asking advice on old-timey Gospel music. 4. Noted (I forget in which thread) that I own the Harry Smith Anthology and have learned (to play/sing) some songs therefrom. 5. Admitted I own the one-volume edition of the Child Ballads (and now have Mmario all over me to type in the annotations to the various songs! and I probably will!). 6. Discussed (again I forget which thread) that I am often "the guy with the guitar" in certain social gatherings and am called upon to lead singing in various songs (folk and otherwise). 7. Suggested to Lyrical Lady that the Seattle-vancouver area Mudcatters might get together and see Gordon Bok. 8. Admitted (in the Never Do X with Y thread) that I own a Gordon Bok CD. -------- I hope it is clear from these plain and evident demonstrations that *I* am the folkie *you* should vote for in November! A vote for Mousethief is a vote for FOLK! Thank you, thank you very much. Please get that baby out of my face. Thank you.
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: guinnesschik Date: 21 Sep 00 - 09:41 AM 'Cause all my toys are paid for. ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Little Hawk Date: 21 Sep 00 - 09:29 AM DaveO - LOL also! Very good retort. GUEST - The Emerson quote is a beauty. We are indeed gods, walking around pretending to be anything but, and most of us have simply forgotten that that's what we are here doing. The illusion is so damn convincing...but we created it out of pure thought in the first place. Or in Spaw's case, impure thought. :-)))) Hesperis - how did you find out about that? Have you been talking to Bob lately? rabbitrunning - What a great song! Do you know Lepus? You rabbits should stick together. As for the detractors of this lovely thread, I think they should go and listen to Burl Ives records until the paint peels off the walls (which reminds me, I need a copy of Burl singing "Goober Peas"...a great little song). Folk music is about everything, and this thread could provide some useful input into that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Little Hawk Date: 21 Sep 00 - 09:17 AM LOL! Midchuck, that is a great capsule description. Ooooo...how they must despise you! I'm gonna do one for me... I am a "white" (actually, kind of pink), male, heterosexual, British Isles/Czech-descended, universalist, right-handed, wiseass, moderately lazy, folksinging, Taoist, Christian, Native American, Bahai, formerly atheistic but now spiritually oriented, export-business-running, songwriting, preachy, Dylanesque, Canadian...also reincarnated from North American Indian/Japanese/British/German/Russian/South American Indian/Egyptian/Roman/and God knows what else backgrounds of both male and female lives...which gives me the right to have a definitive opinion on absolutely ANYTHING, and drives people like Wolfgang and Andres nuts! How's that? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Midchuck Date: 21 Sep 00 - 08:43 AM I am a white, male, heterosexual, British Isles-descended, agnostic, left-handed, wiseass, lazy, folksinging lawyer. I therefore perform a very important public service by providing nearly everyone with a villain to despise. I suppose I ought to take up banjo to make it complete... but oh, the fear... Peter. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: GUEST Date: 21 Sep 00 - 08:30 AM I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. -- Oscar Wilde |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: GUEST Date: 21 Sep 00 - 08:24 AM Every man is a divinity in disguise, a god playing the fool. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 21 Sep 00 - 02:45 AM There once was a poster named Thomas Who thought he had holier traumas With his foot in his mouth His mind headed south 'Cause mousethief had shown him his dramas I am sorry. I forgot what my point was... You ARE better than me. ttr |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: hesperis Date: 21 Sep 00 - 02:06 AM Well, I'm better than any of you, because I am the only person in the WHOLE WIDE WORLD who has permission to say anything I want to say about Bob Dylan to Little Hawk. BTW, Little Hawk, Bob Dylan has to have been an ingestor of powdered banana peels in order to write some of his songs. (Thanks for starting this, mousethief, I'm having fun already!) ~*sirepseh*~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: rabbitrunning Date: 21 Sep 00 - 01:17 AM If people would listen to me! The world would run much better. My way of doing things is very much the best From the money you invest To the food that you digest It's wrong of people not to! 'Cause I'm the one that says they've got to! I know exactly what's right for everybody And exactly what everybody should want to be My advice is always free And as simple as ABC I merely insist that you agree That whatever is right for me That's the thing that's gotta be right for you! I'm the captain I'm the critic I'm the King I'm the judge and the referee I dont' like to raise my voice BUT PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID THAT I HAVE NO CHOICE! People should listen, people should listen, People should listen to ME! I'd love to take credit for this, but it came from a record we had in the early sixties (which I think came from a tv special) called "Jack in the Beanstalk." The evil landlord sang it. And I think I forgot a verse. Gimme a break! My brother broke the record in '72! CD |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Lepus Rex Date: 21 Sep 00 - 01:11 AM Heh. Thanks...I...Guess? >:) ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: catspaw49 Date: 21 Sep 00 - 12:50 AM Well Okay Lepus................. I just checked out your picture series and I'm amazed they would let you drop your pants in one of those booths. Next time send a picture of your face. If that is your face, I apologize, as you're not only stupid, but you"re BUTT UGLY too!!! There ya' go..........Feel better? Happy to oblige. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall) Date: 21 Sep 00 - 12:42 AM Would I be better if I only posted "serious" folk music threads? How about if I never told a joke, or engaged in any sort of camaraderie with other people here? How bout if I post 9 lyric requests for 9 songs that are already in the DT and in the process knocked off a bunch of BS: threads that were entertaining those wicked people around here that are perverting this forum into something lively and fun instead of leaving it as an online music encyclopedia? Lighten up! Rich |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Lepus Rex Date: 21 Sep 00 - 12:39 AM "we have a lot of folks who know much less and are not nearly as bright as mousethief seems to be" ... Spaw, why hasn't anyone bitched at ME yet? It's not fair :( ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: catspaw49 Date: 21 Sep 00 - 12:28 AM Thomas.....relax man. In one of his posts he discusses how much he doesn't know and how surprised he is because he thought he did! Most of us have gotten a serious education here and I know that mousethief probably will too. I know he has bid on e-bay on some books that other members wanted, including Sandt Paton. Believe me my friend (and I hope you are), we have a lot of folks who know much less and are not nearly as bright as mousethief seems to be. This thread may have been a little ill-advised, but its not that uncommon either. During one particularly stupid period, we were running all of these dumb boilerplate threads (Where/What Does a Mudcatter__________ ) and Art Thieme, with a beautiful piece of irony/sarcasm started a thread called, "What Kind of Condoms Do Mudcatters Wear" and the damn thing took off and became a Mudcat classic of sorts, much to Art's chagrin. I like ya' T-Man.........Relax.....MT is just getting into it a bit. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Art Thieme Date: 20 Sep 00 - 11:33 PM |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 20 Sep 00 - 11:06 PM Lepus, I just want mousethief to answer my question. I did the see for myself thing... Am I hostile to new people as a general rule? No! It's just when someone comes on so strong... it makes me feel standoffish Just wondering out loud... ??? ;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Lepus Rex Date: 20 Sep 00 - 10:50 PM Thomas, why don't you go to the top of his thread, click on his name, and take a look for yourself? What's with all the hostility towards new people here? ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 20 Sep 00 - 10:28 PM I don't care who is better or worse. Mousethief, do you have even a passing interest in folk music? I sure would appreciate you more if you could tell me a little about it! This is a folk/trad/blues forum, and I must have missed all your posts pertinent to the mudcat. ttr |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Oversoul Date: 20 Sep 00 - 10:18 PM Because my Dobro has lots of dents and I drive an '88 Escort. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: GUEST,Joerg Date: 20 Sep 00 - 10:04 PM ... maybe because I REALLY don't know an answer to that question and therefore think that that's one of those REALLY good questions. I know why I'm good, I know why I'm bad, i.e. I know what I can do better than most people and I also know what most people can do better than me. At least I suppose so(I don't dare to believe). Telling why I'm better than anybody requires some (3rd capital) REALLY intelligent answer, my poor brains might be too weak for. But I will appreciate any good hint. Hehe - mousethief, if that was meant to be inflammatory, you tricked yourself, if not - thank you: I do not consider this to be b***s**t (on the other hand I'm hardly interested in politics). May I therefore support mousethief's question. Take it as "Help: What to answer when asked ..." Let me say that IMHO any answer that rejects the question or blames the one who asks it for doing so is not a good answer. Cheap trick of course to look clever by asking difficult questions instead of answering them. But I'm a cheap chap, why not use cheap tricks. Still more clever to ask the question than to ignore the problem. If I never get cheaper than that I won't worry. Love Joerg |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Amergin Date: 20 Sep 00 - 08:49 PM Oh, Lord, it's hard to be humble when you're perfect in every way.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Lepus Rex Date: 20 Sep 00 - 08:21 PM Oh, don't be mean. mousethief's a good guy, and if you're gonna criticise his thread, at least do it like moonjen did, kindly. :) ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Jim Dixon Date: 20 Sep 00 - 08:16 PM I am better than you are because I (usually) choose not to post to threads as stupid as this one. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 20 Sep 00 - 08:03 PM Okay, Littlehawk, YOU'RE better because you figured it out! Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Little Hawk Date: 20 Sep 00 - 07:01 PM Ah, good. Someone fixed it. Thanks! Now listen, people, mousethief made a very good and useful point at the start of this thread. Do you actually not get it? Or do you just not appreciate it? Come on, it ain't that hard to figure out what he's talking about here... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Little Hawk Date: 20 Sep 00 - 06:46 PM I somehow posted that twice, before and after some slight editing. Sorry! I guess maybe I am not better, after all...ARRRGHHH! Time to get out the rubber sepukku blade again. I leave my one and only condom (it's been in my wallet for 11 years, in case of an emergency) to Spaw. I doubt he'll get to use it either, but there's always hope... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Little Hawk Date: 20 Sep 00 - 06:33 PM Ha! Ha! I like your point, mousethief... Let's see now... I'm better because I have absolutely no tolerance for intolerant people! Those who are intolerant MUST NOT BE TOLERATED!!! NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!! As for people who are in favour of capital punishment...they all oughta be SHOT!!! Or maybe drawn and quartered.... By golly, then we'd have some peace and quiet around here for all us tolerant, non-violent types! And there'd be a whole lot more property available in places like Texas, too, come to think of it. Another thing...people have gotta stop saying insulting things about shit...like that it stinks, for example. This isn't a metaphor here, I'm talking about actual, literal, tactile, excretory, in-your-face shit. It's time shit got some respect in this society. Without shit, how could we fertilize the soil? I'd better not hear any disparaging comments about shit or there will be hell to pay. No shit! (to use an expression...) *(The above, and numerous other inflammatory and illogical statements may be found in a manuscript I am presently working on, called "The Hypocrite's Handbook" I recommend it as a career guide for young, would-be politicians everywhere who want everyone's vote and simply don't care how they get it. The thing about a marshmallow is that it can fit any aperture...Watch for the publication date announcement...) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: M.Ted Date: 20 Sep 00 - 05:06 PM Well played, Thomas. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: Jim Krause Date: 20 Sep 00 - 05:05 PM Back to the original thought And them that don't like me can leave me alone. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are From: mousethief Date: 20 Sep 00 - 05:01 PM Do we have designated mothers in this league?
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