I really need help!

Subject: I really need help!
From: GUEST,addie
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 02:25 PM

I know this kind of information is not suppose to be posted on the thread but I really need some help with this one.Here goes,about 2 1/2 years ago it came out that the man that my sister was with was doing wrong doings to her children and the small town that she was living in, the Cops there are covering up for this man, the Chief of Police is the number one man covering, well it went to court about a week ago and the dude did not show up for court he skipped town so the cops say and I say it's a joke,I know this town very well and I know a good bit thats happened.The day before court was a preliminary hearing to prepare everybody for court the next day,well the day of the preliminary hearing the courts had to get a warrant for the mans arrest,they picked up the man,got everything settled for court the next day and they would not lock the man up over night after they had to pick him up once,this was the chiefs doing.The chief of police and this man has been friends for over 30 years and this guy knows alot of things on the police department and they are covering up.Because I figure if they bring this guy in that they figured the man might turn on them. If anyone can help me please let me know. All this has taken place in a small hick town in Mississipp.Also my sister's life is in danger cause she turned states evidence on this guy. thank you all addie

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: GospelPicker (inactive)
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 02:36 PM

ADDIE, You need to do a few things... one is listen very closely to what I am going to say...

CALL THE AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND JUSTICE... GET HELP FROM THEM!

EMAIL ME AT [e-mail] IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK OR PRAY OR AT LEAST LET ME PRAY FOR YOU...

GET YOUR SISTER TO A PLACE THAT IS SAFE... FIND SOMEONE THAT SHE KNOWS FROM ELSEWHERE AND GET HER THERE TILL THIS GUY IS FOUND... AND PLEASE DON'T TELL YOURSELF THAT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE OR UNREASONABLE... BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY... I KNOW IT'S AN OLD SAYING, BUT IT IS SO TRUE...

GospelPicker

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Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: Sorcha
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 02:41 PM

Please do that Gospel Picker says, addie. I know this stuff happens, happens everywhere! You might also calling you state'e Attorney General, or the American Civil Liberties Union.

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: GUEST,addie
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 02:44 PM

Thanks gospelpicker I will e-mail you. addie

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 03:00 PM

Addie, I second the advice from Gospelpicker. As for this not being the place to post such things, as you suggested in your first thread, when you are afraid and don't know where to turn you've got to tell someone and I'm glad you've turned here because there are a lot of caring folks on the Mudcat, and you can be sure we'll be thinking/praying/holding you and your loved ones in the Light as hard as we can. Please keep us posted and let us know how it all turns out!

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: Megan L
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 03:41 PM

Addie Mudcat is exactly the right place to post, we may not be able to do much and sometimes we get a little glakit and squabble but when one of us is troubled we gather round.

Don't know if you have the equivelant in US but here in Uk we have a voluntary service called Victim Support who can provide moral support and advice. We go with the victim to court pre trial so they can get an idea of the layout and procedures involved and help them with any questions they may have.

I hope you have something similar your family shouldn't have to go through this alone. I hope you won't be offended if if I hold all of you in prayer.

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: GUEST,Addie
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 04:45 PM

Megan, I will definitely NOT be offended if you and anyone else prays about this. I thank all of you for your kindness and concern... and PRAYERS! Addie

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: The Beanster
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 05:06 PM

Addie, it takes a lot of courage to do what you are doing. Take Gospelpicker and Sorcha's advice and tell what you know--and make sure your sister is in a safe place. The ACLJ and/or ACLU have people who can help you, your sister and her children. I don't know if you live in that same town or not, but if you do try to seek justice through one of these organizations on your own, my advice would be for you to keep a low profile and be extremely careful who you talk to about it. You don't want to put yourself in danger.

My heart goes out to you, addie--as I said, you are very brave. Hang in there and we'll all send good wishes and strength to you.

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: Cobble
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 05:18 PM

Addie Stay strong we are all in there with you. The Gospelpicker's advice sounds good to me.good wishes. Margaret (mrs. Cobble)

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: GUEST,khandu
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 05:45 PM

Addie

As stated above, you are welcomed to express your troubles here at Mudcat. There are many compassionate, caring people here.

The advise that has already been given is excellent. Consider it well. And, do keep youself safe.

I am a fellow Mississippian and know all too well the way the law is in some of these "hick" towns. My brother died fighting a fire set by an arsonist. The suspected arsonist happened to be a dear friend of the sheriff.

An investigation determined that the fire was indeed an act of arson. At that point, the "High Sheriff" stopped any further investigation. Nothing further has been done in fifteen years.

But, Addie, there is a Higher Sheriff, and He will deal with all involved.

I will join my Fellow Catters in prayer for you, your sister, and the children.

God is faithful. God is not mocked, He will repay.

Grace and Peace to you and your loved ones!

khandu

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: Melani
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 05:45 PM

Find the nearest safe shelter for women and children through one of the organizations mentioned. DO NOT assume that a restraining order or any other legal stuff other than locking the guy up will help. Make sure your sister is physically inaccessible to anybody who might want to harm her.

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 05:54 PM

You need to get your sister in touch with a safe house network. Best bets are through the "Coalition Against Domestic Violence".....Mississippi number is 1-800-898-3234 or 601-981-2501.

Her attorney should also have a few resources...if he doesn't, she needs a different attorney. Let me know and I'll give you who to talk to.

Spaw

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 05:57 PM

Most of the other orgs have no real contacts and will be slow to respond. Call the Ms. chapter of the CADV and shoot straight. NOW.

Spaw

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 06:06 PM

Addie, many of us will not be able to offer legal advice, but will certainly be with you very closely and heartedly. Please follow advice of those who posted above and don't trust restraining orders, keep her out of the reach of that man.

Un abrazo - Andrés

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: Bernard
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 06:17 PM

We 'Brits' are with you, too...

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: Sorcha
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 10:06 PM

"Restraining Orders" are totally worthless. "Protection Orders" work a little better. You might also try getting a hold of the criminal investigation division of the state of Mississippi, or the MBI. They can start an independednt investigation, and go over and around the local police department. There is also a national organization for abused women called DOVE that may have chapters in MS. I am calling our local safe house director in the morning to see if she has any contacts at all in Mississippi. If you will send me an e mail at

sorchaout @ hotmail.com we could have a little more privacy, but that is your choice, addie. I don't mind talking to you here, if you don't mind.

This is real scary stuff, and I know it. Hang in there, don't panic, and keep talking to somebody.Just be careful who.

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: mrs_zezam
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 11:41 PM

Dear Addie, Your sister is blessed to have you there.
Work fast to get her safe. Always trust your instincts: if you sense danger, don't try to be "rational" & talk yourself out of it. Lots of good people in the world, but the few who are not are just as real.
Accept help without hesitation or apology.
adding my prayers to many others,
Mary

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: GospelPicker (inactive)
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 11:49 PM

Dear Lord God, I thank you for all these who have given so freely of their love and concern for this young lady and her family. I ask in the name of Jesus that you, O Lord, would protect her and guide those who are to help her. Give these women and their family the peace and knowledge of Your Sovereign Power that comes from faith in You. I ask that you bind this man so full of hate, and bring him not only, Lord God, to justice here on earth, but into the Light of Your Justice, where no man is exempt from the law without your Love. Protect and bless these women and bless all these here who have cared so much. In the precious Name of Jesus my Savior I pray, Amen.

GospelPicker

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Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 11:58 PM

Gospel Picker.....We are ALL sending our best thoughts I'm sure, in whatever way we can. Let's not get into another of the problem situations that came out of the Healing Circle threads. Like those, more personal messages are best kept to e-mail and PM's as we agreed back then. Thanks for your consideration.

Spaw

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: alison
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 12:04 AM

Prayers from Australia as well

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: Hotspur
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 01:03 AM

Addie, my prayers are with you, your sister, and her kids. Two more suggestions for help are the National Domestic Abuse Hotline, 1-800-799-SAFE (I think--try the yellow pages if not) and your local YWCA.

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: CarolC
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 01:24 AM

Addie, do what these people have told you.

Get her the hell out of that town, and don't either of you look back for one single instant. (I know about small towns.)

Good luck with everything.

Carol

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: GospelPicker (inactive)
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 01:46 AM

Spaw,

A) I was not involved in those threads; B) Relax. The above prayer was on Addie's behalf and not meant as an attempt to prosletyze or "convert"

C) I am glad that all the wishes and prayers of these fine 'Catters are going out to Addie.

D) I did not mean any offense, just a public prayer in the vein of my personal beliefs... like the good 'ol Grateful Dead lyricist Rober Hunter once wrote: "Believe it if you need it; if you don't, then leave it there."

GospelPicker

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Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: CarolC
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 06:37 AM

Addie, I just thought of something else. Try to get her as far removed from the legal jurisdiction she's in right now as you possibly can.

It would be best if you could get her into another state altogether. If that's not possible, try, at least, to get her into another county. I'm concerned about what this man might do to your sister, but I'm also very concerned about what this man might convince the local authorities to do if he wants to use the system to hurt her kids as a way to hurt her. Again, voice of experience.

Best wishes,

Carol

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: Fortunato
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 10:13 AM

We are with you addie.

chance

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: GUEST,addie
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 12:06 PM

All of you guys are very wonderful,and I thank each and everyone of you.GospelPicker thank you for your prayers. Keep us in your prayers also. I hope good will come out of this and it will as soon as the dude is behind bars along with a few others from that town. Addie

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: M. Ted (inactive)
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 04:10 PM

I am voting with CarolC--Best for the family to relocate, and the sooner the better-

Presuming, Addie, that all is as you say it is, and all can be sufficiently substantiated in a court of law, Speedy Justice" is not the state motto of Mississippi. and no one will rest easy any time soon, unless the family moves out of harms way--

I must be honest, and say that, in my experience, these sort of accusations are not always all that they seem to be--you can see for yourself how much attention you can draw by simply making these charges--none of us know you, you seem to be a first time poster, and you accuse someone we don't know of having done something horrible to someone else we don't know, in a place that is only vaguely specified, and yet everyone is all up in arms, and taking your side to boot--an easy way to get attention, and for that reason, it is an accusation often made by angry people who feel that their divorce or separation case will otherwise be ignored--

At any rate, if the charges seem to have been made, and the gentemen in question has opted for "Flight to Avoid Prosecution", which makes him a felony fugitive--he may have enjoyed some protection in his home town(though not enough to avoid prosecution) but no one anywhere else is going to have a lot of sympathy for a fugitive child molester--guys like this end up on "America's Most Wanted"--have you considered giving John Walsh a call?

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: Don Firth
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 04:36 PM

All the above advice is excellent, but, Addie, there is one other thing I would urge you to do. I don't know the details of your situation, but just in case -- while you are safeguarding your sister and her children, don't forget to watch out for yourself as well.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: I really need help!
From: GUEST,Addie
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 05:22 PM

This goes to M.Ted,for starters I am not a new comer to Mudcat.I did not post here to draw attention to myself. I posted here for advice of where I could go for help. And another thing all this did happen and is still going on in this small town.One more thing I didn't accuse no one, it was word of mouth from 3 children.If you could hear what the kids said you would have a change of heart. Did you answer hear to get someone rouled up,and let me guess you are a man.Which thinks no man does wrong. If you haven't guessed by now I am pissed off.