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BS: Puzzles

MMario 12 Dec 00 - 10:41 AM
Allan C. 12 Dec 00 - 10:24 AM
Wolfgang 12 Dec 00 - 10:21 AM
Mrrzy 12 Dec 00 - 09:39 AM
MudGuard 12 Dec 00 - 06:02 AM
Bernard 12 Dec 00 - 04:08 AM
Jeri 11 Dec 00 - 06:29 PM
CamiSu 11 Dec 00 - 06:18 PM
Allan C. 11 Dec 00 - 06:00 PM
Bernard 11 Dec 00 - 05:24 PM
Allan C. 11 Dec 00 - 05:20 PM
Bernard 11 Dec 00 - 05:13 PM
Bernard 11 Dec 00 - 05:10 PM
mousethief 11 Dec 00 - 05:03 PM
Allan C. 11 Dec 00 - 05:02 PM
Bernard 11 Dec 00 - 04:50 PM
mousethief 11 Dec 00 - 04:47 PM
Allan C. 11 Dec 00 - 04:44 PM
Mrrzy 11 Dec 00 - 10:43 AM
Troll 11 Dec 00 - 10:38 AM
Allan C. 11 Dec 00 - 10:34 AM
Mrrzy 11 Dec 00 - 10:27 AM
Allan C. 11 Dec 00 - 10:15 AM
MMario 11 Dec 00 - 10:06 AM
Wolfgang 11 Dec 00 - 10:03 AM
Mrrzy 11 Dec 00 - 09:48 AM
Allan C. 11 Dec 00 - 09:46 AM
CamiSu 11 Dec 00 - 09:32 AM
MichaelM 11 Dec 00 - 09:22 AM
Wolfgang 11 Dec 00 - 08:21 AM
AndyG 11 Dec 00 - 08:03 AM
AndyG 11 Dec 00 - 07:59 AM
Wolfgang 11 Dec 00 - 07:12 AM
P05139 11 Dec 00 - 06:13 AM
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Ebbie 11 Dec 00 - 01:19 AM
Allan C. 11 Dec 00 - 12:08 AM
fleetwood 10 Dec 00 - 06:45 PM
Murray MacLeod 10 Dec 00 - 06:41 PM
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Ebbie 10 Dec 00 - 06:26 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: MMario
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 10:41 AM

Part 3-1 can be found here


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Allan C.
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 10:24 AM

Hey, could someone please do a Blicky for this thread to a continuation? I would if I could.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Wolfgang
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 10:21 AM

Bernard,
I'm sure it's not what you mean but it fits every aspect: humans, in about 100 years from now, could be wiped off the face of the Earth and yet thousands of them could be born next day on Europe (a Jupiter moon).

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 09:39 AM

Allan C, yes, corn. Tea kettle, no. But you're right that some of the attributes are, well, not quite necessarily true all the time...


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: MudGuard
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 06:02 AM

Any mammals living underground (mice, rabbits, ...).
When all are underground, they are wiped from face of earth.
And they still could be happily living
.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Bernard
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 04:08 AM

Nope - Allan PM'd me about that! He now knows the answer - it's an animal common in many countries...

Anyone who wants the answer, or who think they already know it, PM me - that way people who want to think it over don't have it spoiled.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 06:29 PM

You're not thinking marsupials crawling out of pouches are you?


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: CamiSu
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 06:18 PM

Troll's answer could also be a tick.

And Bernard, the males of any species!

I'm a farmer. we keep the females!

CamiSu


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Allan C.
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 06:00 PM

Okay, after I'm through kicking myself, the line forms on the right.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Bernard
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 05:24 PM

Nope. Exactly how it sounds!

One minute there's thousands of them, the next minute something kills the lot!

'Kick' was a clue - think laterally!


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Allan C.
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 05:20 PM

Unless there is a meaning for "wiped off the face of the earth" that is rather different from what I was taught, then I doubt I'll be kicking myself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Bernard
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 05:13 PM

Ooops! Forgot!

Yes - the very same mammal.

You'll kick yourselves if you don't get it...


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Bernard
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 05:10 PM

'Born' as in 'leaving the womb'!!

It's soooooo obvious!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: mousethief
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 05:03 PM

What do you mean by "born"? Leave the womb? Or something a little more sneaky?


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Allan C.
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 05:02 PM

Bernard, thousands of young what? If you mean thousands of the young of that very same mammal, then I have no guess.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Bernard
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 04:50 PM

Which mammal, which is not egg-laying (e.g. duck billed platypus), could theoretically be completely wiped off the face of the earth, yet, the following day thousands of young could be born?


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: mousethief
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 04:47 PM

troll's is a burr, I think. Or a thorn or sliver in the flesh.

Alex


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Allan C.
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 04:44 PM

Mrrzy, I think the answer to the food question might be: corn. The answer to your last one might be: a tea kettle (because you lied about its other attributes).


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Mrrzy
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 10:43 AM

That last one, troll, reminds me of a riddle song from very early childhood:

What's green, hangs on the wall, and whistles?


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Troll
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 10:38 AM

I got it the woods because I wasn't looking for it.
I brought it home because I couldn't find it.
When I found it, I threw it away because I didn't want it.
It was bright pick with purple stripes.
OK! OK! It wasn't bright pink with purple spots. I only said that to add a little color to the thread.

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Allan C.
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 10:34 AM

Mrrzy, if you are reading the puzzle, then you are probably alive.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Mrrzy
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 10:27 AM

AllanC - who didn't ever die, though?


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Allan C.
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 10:15 AM

I suppose it would pay for me to have gone back to see which puzzles I had posted. There were two PA Dutch ones I had intended to post. One was a version of the Arkansas one above. Thus my response to CamiSu was incorrect. Mario has the correct answers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: MMario
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 10:06 AM

for the Arkansas riddle I would say coffin; for the PA Dutch one, counterfeit money.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Wolfgang
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 10:03 AM

Michael's right and Firecat has asked something (s)he didn't want to ask (with this wording). Which leaves open the question whether Jeri has understood the question as it is usually asked (as I did, for instance, without sufficient reading) and from that understanding has found a creative and counterintuitive solution to the question that has not been asked actually (but should have been asked) or whether she has understood the question as it was asked and has made a simple mistake (my guess is on the first possibility).

It reminds me of one of my bigger mistakes when I was asking what I thought was a very cleverly worded question in a written examination that only the very best of the students should have been able to get correct. I then made a mistake myself and found that the first glance obvious response was now correct after all and the only ones that did not have this solution were the best of my students.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Mrrzy
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 09:48 AM

Thanks for the cannibal one, and Fibula Mattock, I couldn't agree more! OK, here's another one, credit my niece: What is the food that you throw away the outside and cook the inside, and then eat the outside and throw away the inside? And is a Coffin the right answer? And All of Us?


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Allan C.
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 09:46 AM

CamiSu, you have the answer. It is the same for both.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: CamiSu
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 09:32 AM

Allan--

I would say the answer to your Arkansas riddle is a coffin, but I'm not sure I'd say the same about its Pennsylvania Dutch version.

CamiSu


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: MichaelM
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 09:22 AM

Sorry to disagree with Firecat but the distance between the "last page of Vol.1" (which is,looking at the books on the shelf, inside the left cover) and the first page of Vol.2 (just inside the right cover) is 2.25"

Now the first page of vol.1 and the last page of vol.2 are one-quarter of an inch apart.

Michael


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Wolfgang
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 08:21 AM

Andy, yes, that are all solutions I know of. Of course, you assume that the earth is flat in the formula, but I couldn't do better and that's close enough.
For those who don't do formulae (formulas?): Take fleetwood's solution and allow also circles around the south pole with 1/2 (1/3, 1/4,...) ml circumference around the south pole and then you'll see that you start a bit more than 1 ml north of the south pole, make 1, 2, 3, 4, ... full circles around the pole (the nearer you are, the sillier you feel) to cover one mile and walk the first mile back north.

New puzzle: How long is the shortest word in a Latin script Eurpoean language that has all five vowels (aeiou) in it?

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: AndyG
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 08:03 AM

Oopsie,

For each defined pair of poles.
a) The North Pole
b) an infinite number (if your feet are small enough) of circles centered at the corresponding South Pole of radii:
1760+(1760/(2 π / n))yds
where n is a POSITIVE integer

AndyG


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: AndyG
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 07:59 AM

Wolfgang,

Yeah, silly me.

For each defined pair of poles.
a) The North Pole
b) an infinite number (if your feet are small enough) of circles centered at the South Pole of radii:
1760+(1760/(2 π / n))yds
where n is an integer

AndyG


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Wolfgang
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 07:12 AM

Well done, fleetwood and Andy, and correct solutions to the puzzle your solutions are, but still not all possible solutions. (though you are extremely near to find the rest of the solutions)

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: P05139
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 06:13 AM

People who got mine:-

Yes the answers are as follows:

1) "I will be shot"

2) 1/4of an inch!

WELL DONE!!

(((((((((HUG))))))))))))


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: AndyG
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 06:02 AM

Wolfgang,

It would appear that the list of possible solutions is:
a) The north pole.
b) A circle centered on the south pole, (~2040yd radius).

For each defined pair of poles, (ie magnetic, geographic).

AndyG


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Ebbie
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 01:19 AM

Allan!!

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Allan C.
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 12:08 AM

A version of the PA Dutch puzzler above is told in Arkansas similarly:

The man who made me, never used me. The man who bought me, never used me. The man who used me never saw me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: fleetwood
Date: 10 Dec 00 - 06:45 PM

I had not heard my solution before but the way I heard the original puzzle was that after the mile south a hunter shot a bear and the question ending what colour was the bear which made the north pole the only acceptable answer being a white polar bear.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 10 Dec 00 - 06:41 PM

Nice one, fleetwood. Tell me the truth did you know the answer or did you work it out? *G*

Murray


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Allan C.
Date: 10 Dec 00 - 06:30 PM

Quite right, Ebbie!


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Dec 00 - 06:26 PM

Allan C: Who was born but never died?

Unless you factor in a belief in reincarnation, one answer is "Every one of us alive today."

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: fleetwood
Date: 10 Dec 00 - 06:24 PM

Wolfgang start the walk south 1 mile north of a circumferance of the south pole which is one mile long. The walk south and north is along the same line.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 10 Dec 00 - 03:24 PM

Wolfgang, there is only one point in the solution set for that problem, and that is the North Pole. I have been wrong before, however, so correct me !

Murray


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Jeri
Date: 10 Dec 00 - 01:05 PM

Bravo Ivan!!! My eyes (and brain) went all buggy from trying to figure that one out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Allan C.
Date: 10 Dec 00 - 01:00 PM

Here's a couple from the Pennsylvania Dutch country:

Whoever makes it, tells it not and whoever takes it recognizes it not and whoever recognizes it wants it not.

Who was born but never died?


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: CamiSu
Date: 10 Dec 00 - 12:38 PM

Bert--

Thanks a huge lot! this ought to keep me going for quite a while!

CamiSu


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: IvanB
Date: 08 Dec 00 - 07:21 PM

1 m and 1 c cross to dest, leaving 2 each at start.
1 m returns, leaving 3 m/2 c at start, 1 c at dest.
2 c cross, leaving 3 m at start and 3 c at dest.
1 c returns, leaving 3 m/1 c at start and 2 c at dest.
2 m cross, leaving 1 m/1 c at start and 2 m/2 c at dest.
1 m and 1 c return, leaving 2 m/2 c at start and 1 m/1 c at dest.
2 m cross, leaving 2 c at start and 3 m/1 c at dest.
1 c returns, leaving 3 c at start and 3 m at dest.
2 c cross, 1 c returns and the remaining 2 c's cross.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Jeri
Date: 08 Dec 00 - 12:11 PM

LOL. I went searching for the problem, and found all sorts of formulas and charts and things to figure this out. Personally, I'd do better with a visual representation to play with.


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock
Date: 08 Dec 00 - 12:07 PM

I've started trying to work it out with 6 post-it notes and a piece of paper, but it's home-time, so I shall leave it for now!


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Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles
From: Jeri
Date: 08 Dec 00 - 11:58 AM

Fibula, your fifth line down would have c rowing back to cm, so there would be ccm when the boat reaches that side of the river.

This one is complicated, and involves the position of the boat and who's in it, and I'm fairly sure somewhere along the line, someone has got to be rowed in the wrong direction. Unfortunately, my brain hurts from trying to figure it out.


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