 sj |
||
|
||
BS: Puzzles
|
|
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: CamiSu Date: 07 Dec 00 - 12:44 PM Got Allan's! And it only took 2 minutes! (started with the 1234 pyramid and then to 'I could give you 6 rows of 4 each' to OH!! that's cool! Does anyone know where to find cryptic crosswords on line? I know about squizz and the Atlantic Monthly... Cami Su |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Bert Date: 07 Dec 00 - 12:54 PM Try here |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Mrrzy Date: 07 Dec 00 - 02:17 PM Fibula Mattock - yes, you have to ask what would the other guy say. Not sure if you have the right logic all the way through but that's the basic trick. Any news on the cannibals and missionaries? |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: GUEST Date: 07 Dec 00 - 04:59 PM Two buildings are connected by a 12 foot length of rope. The rope is fastened at the corner of each building. The rope hangs down 6 feet. How far apart are the buildings? |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Bert Date: 07 Dec 00 - 05:01 PM touching |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: rabbitrunning Date: 07 Dec 00 - 07:10 PM The surgeon is the boy's mother. The buildings are (I believe) next to each other. I'd have to look for the cannibals and the missionaries. I know the answer involves always having more missionaries on one side of the river at a time than cannibals on the same side. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Wolfgang Date: 08 Dec 00 - 06:16 AM Someone walks 1 ml exactly South, 1 ml exactly East and 1 ml eactly North and is at the same point where he started. Where was he? Yes, I know it's easy to come up with one solution (North Pole), but I want to read all possible solutions for that puzzle on Earth. Wolfgang |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Patrish(inactive) Date: 08 Dec 00 - 06:43 AM A treadmill? Patrish |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Wolfgang Date: 08 Dec 00 - 07:22 AM No, real walk on the ground. Wolfgang |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Mrrzy Date: 08 Dec 00 - 10:12 AM OK, I think this is how the cannibals and missionaries goes: there are three of each on one side of the river, and a pirogue (canoe) that will hold exactly 2. All 6 need to cross the river, but the cannibals can never outnumber the missionaries on any given bank, or soup will happen, and you won't have 3 missionaries any more. How do you get all 6 people across? |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock Date: 08 Dec 00 - 10:40 AM Okay, first off the missionaries deserve everything they get and I have no sympathy for them if they're eaten *BG* I'm not sure what the constraints are. I presume someone is always needed to return the boat to the opposite side, and that can be either a cannibal or a missionary, or is it just missionaries that can handle the boat? Are they safe while they're in the boat (i.e. they can just drop one person off)? Does this work? cccmmm(3 of each on one side) cm go off in canoe leaving ccmm c deposited on opposite bank, m returns to ccmm cm go back to other side (to c) leaving cmm c drops off m and returns. One side now has cm, other has cmm and c is in the boat m gets in, crosses over with c, now one side has ccmm, other side has cm c crosses over (leaving cmm) and picks up m now there's ccmmm on one side and c on other so either a c or an m can go and pick them up. Something tells me there's an evil constraint I haven't considered. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock Date: 08 Dec 00 - 10:42 AM (I was negligent with some of my line breaks - sorry!) |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Jeri Date: 08 Dec 00 - 11:58 AM Fibula, your fifth line down would have c rowing back to cm, so there would be ccm when the boat reaches that side of the river. This one is complicated, and involves the position of the boat and who's in it, and I'm fairly sure somewhere along the line, someone has got to be rowed in the wrong direction. Unfortunately, my brain hurts from trying to figure it out. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock Date: 08 Dec 00 - 12:07 PM I've started trying to work it out with 6 post-it notes and a piece of paper, but it's home-time, so I shall leave it for now! |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Jeri Date: 08 Dec 00 - 12:11 PM LOL. I went searching for the problem, and found all sorts of formulas and charts and things to figure this out. Personally, I'd do better with a visual representation to play with. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: IvanB Date: 08 Dec 00 - 07:21 PM 1 m and 1 c cross to dest, leaving 2 each at start. 1 m returns, leaving 3 m/2 c at start, 1 c at dest. 2 c cross, leaving 3 m at start and 3 c at dest. 1 c returns, leaving 3 m/1 c at start and 2 c at dest. 2 m cross, leaving 1 m/1 c at start and 2 m/2 c at dest. 1 m and 1 c return, leaving 2 m/2 c at start and 1 m/1 c at dest. 2 m cross, leaving 2 c at start and 3 m/1 c at dest. 1 c returns, leaving 3 c at start and 3 m at dest. 2 c cross, 1 c returns and the remaining 2 c's cross. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: CamiSu Date: 10 Dec 00 - 12:38 PM Bert-- Thanks a huge lot! this ought to keep me going for quite a while! CamiSu |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Date: 10 Dec 00 - 01:00 PM Here's a couple from the Pennsylvania Dutch country: Whoever makes it, tells it not and whoever takes it recognizes it not and whoever recognizes it wants it not. Who was born but never died? |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Jeri Date: 10 Dec 00 - 01:05 PM Bravo Ivan!!! My eyes (and brain) went all buggy from trying to figure that one out. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Murray MacLeod Date: 10 Dec 00 - 03:24 PM Wolfgang, there is only one point in the solution set for that problem, and that is the North Pole. I have been wrong before, however, so correct me ! Murray |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: fleetwood Date: 10 Dec 00 - 06:24 PM Wolfgang start the walk south 1 mile north of a circumferance of the south pole which is one mile long. The walk south and north is along the same line. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Ebbie Date: 10 Dec 00 - 06:26 PM Allan C: Who was born but never died? Unless you factor in a belief in reincarnation, one answer is "Every one of us alive today." Ebbie |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Date: 10 Dec 00 - 06:30 PM Quite right, Ebbie! |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Murray MacLeod Date: 10 Dec 00 - 06:41 PM Nice one, fleetwood. Tell me the truth did you know the answer or did you work it out? *G* Murray |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: fleetwood Date: 10 Dec 00 - 06:45 PM I had not heard my solution before but the way I heard the original puzzle was that after the mile south a hunter shot a bear and the question ending what colour was the bear which made the north pole the only acceptable answer being a white polar bear. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Date: 11 Dec 00 - 12:08 AM A version of the PA Dutch puzzler above is told in Arkansas similarly: The man who made me, never used me. The man who bought me, never used me. The man who used me never saw me.
|
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Ebbie Date: 11 Dec 00 - 01:19 AM Allan!! Ebbie |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: AndyG Date: 11 Dec 00 - 06:02 AM Wolfgang,
It would appear that the list of possible solutions is:
For each defined pair of poles, (ie magnetic, geographic).
AndyG |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: P05139 Date: 11 Dec 00 - 06:13 AM People who got mine:- Yes the answers are as follows: 1) "I will be shot" 2) 1/4of an inch! WELL DONE!! (((((((((HUG)))))))))))) |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Wolfgang Date: 11 Dec 00 - 07:12 AM Well done, fleetwood and Andy, and correct solutions to the puzzle your solutions are, but still not all possible solutions. (though you are extremely near to find the rest of the solutions) Wolfgang |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: AndyG Date: 11 Dec 00 - 07:59 AM Wolfgang,
Yeah, silly me. For each defined pair of poles.
AndyG |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: AndyG Date: 11 Dec 00 - 08:03 AM Oopsie,
For each defined pair of poles.
AndyG |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Wolfgang Date: 11 Dec 00 - 08:21 AM Andy, yes, that are all solutions I know of. Of course, you assume that the earth is flat in the formula, but I couldn't do better and that's close enough. For those who don't do formulae (formulas?): Take fleetwood's solution and allow also circles around the south pole with 1/2 (1/3, 1/4,...) ml circumference around the south pole and then you'll see that you start a bit more than 1 ml north of the south pole, make 1, 2, 3, 4, ... full circles around the pole (the nearer you are, the sillier you feel) to cover one mile and walk the first mile back north. New puzzle: How long is the shortest word in a Latin script Eurpoean language that has all five vowels (aeiou) in it? Wolfgang |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: MichaelM Date: 11 Dec 00 - 09:22 AM Sorry to disagree with Firecat but the distance between the "last page of Vol.1" (which is,looking at the books on the shelf, inside the left cover) and the first page of Vol.2 (just inside the right cover) is 2.25" Now the first page of vol.1 and the last page of vol.2 are one-quarter of an inch apart. Michael |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: CamiSu Date: 11 Dec 00 - 09:32 AM Allan-- I would say the answer to your Arkansas riddle is a coffin, but I'm not sure I'd say the same about its Pennsylvania Dutch version. CamiSu |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Date: 11 Dec 00 - 09:46 AM CamiSu, you have the answer. It is the same for both. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Mrrzy Date: 11 Dec 00 - 09:48 AM Thanks for the cannibal one, and Fibula Mattock, I couldn't agree more! OK, here's another one, credit my niece: What is the food that you throw away the outside and cook the inside, and then eat the outside and throw away the inside? And is a Coffin the right answer? And All of Us? |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Wolfgang Date: 11 Dec 00 - 10:03 AM Michael's right and Firecat has asked something (s)he didn't want to ask (with this wording). Which leaves open the question whether Jeri has understood the question as it is usually asked (as I did, for instance, without sufficient reading) and from that understanding has found a creative and counterintuitive solution to the question that has not been asked actually (but should have been asked) or whether she has understood the question as it was asked and has made a simple mistake (my guess is on the first possibility). It reminds me of one of my bigger mistakes when I was asking what I thought was a very cleverly worded question in a written examination that only the very best of the students should have been able to get correct. I then made a mistake myself and found that the first glance obvious response was now correct after all and the only ones that did not have this solution were the best of my students. Wolfgang |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: MMario Date: 11 Dec 00 - 10:06 AM for the Arkansas riddle I would say coffin; for the PA Dutch one, counterfeit money. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Date: 11 Dec 00 - 10:15 AM I suppose it would pay for me to have gone back to see which puzzles I had posted. There were two PA Dutch ones I had intended to post. One was a version of the Arkansas one above. Thus my response to CamiSu was incorrect. Mario has the correct answers. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Mrrzy Date: 11 Dec 00 - 10:27 AM AllanC - who didn't ever die, though? |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Date: 11 Dec 00 - 10:34 AM Mrrzy, if you are reading the puzzle, then you are probably alive. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Troll Date: 11 Dec 00 - 10:38 AM I got it the woods because I wasn't looking for it. I brought it home because I couldn't find it. When I found it, I threw it away because I didn't want it. It was bright pick with purple stripes. OK! OK! It wasn't bright pink with purple spots. I only said that to add a little color to the thread. troll |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Mrrzy Date: 11 Dec 00 - 10:43 AM That last one, troll, reminds me of a riddle song from very early childhood: What's green, hangs on the wall, and whistles? |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Date: 11 Dec 00 - 04:44 PM Mrrzy, I think the answer to the food question might be: corn. The answer to your last one might be: a tea kettle (because you lied about its other attributes). |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: mousethief Date: 11 Dec 00 - 04:47 PM troll's is a burr, I think. Or a thorn or sliver in the flesh. Alex |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Bernard Date: 11 Dec 00 - 04:50 PM Which mammal, which is not egg-laying (e.g. duck billed platypus), could theoretically be completely wiped off the face of the earth, yet, the following day thousands of young could be born? |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Date: 11 Dec 00 - 05:02 PM Bernard, thousands of young what? If you mean thousands of the young of that very same mammal, then I have no guess. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: mousethief Date: 11 Dec 00 - 05:03 PM What do you mean by "born"? Leave the womb? Or something a little more sneaky? |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Bernard Date: 11 Dec 00 - 05:10 PM 'Born' as in 'leaving the womb'!! It's soooooo obvious!! |