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Subject: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: John Routledge Date: 19 Oct 01 - 01:16 PM The possibility of a Gathering early in 2002 has been considered. One OPTION is as follows YHA RENT A HOSTEL SCHEME This gives exclusive use of a whole hostel. The most central suitable hostel is LLANGOLLEN 130 Beds plus lounges dining rooms kitchens COST If half full £15 pp for weekend If full £7.50!! Availability 4/5 JAN and 11/12 JAN 25% deposit in 2 weeks of reservation. Sliding scale of cancellation charges. View hostel at yha.org.uk NB Coach House part of hostel available on its own (56 beds) at a cost of approx £12.50 pp ie same attendance as Llanstock Comments please John |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Gareth Date: 19 Oct 01 - 01:49 PM Sounds good to me - and I promise I won't sing ! Gareth |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Diva Date: 19 Oct 01 - 01:49 PM Bill mentioned the Lakes in Feb. I'm already booked up for those to weeks with field trips at Uni. Kathy |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Wyrd Sister Date: 19 Oct 01 - 01:52 PM Which weekend is Plough Stots next year? |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: John Routledge Date: 19 Oct 01 - 01:54 PM Diva - Second possibility is Langdale in Lakes but less than 100 beds and further from South. However Langdale available all weekends in Jan except 25/26 There is no other availability. John |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Diva Date: 19 Oct 01 - 01:56 PM Fair enough John......well you guys are just going to have to come to Hawick for the New Year. Kathy |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: John J Date: 19 Oct 01 - 02:05 PM Hawick looks like a lovely place for a bash. On the other hand, there aren't many places I won't go for a lot of beer and a sing! John |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: MudGuard Date: 19 Oct 01 - 02:47 PM Llangollen is a very nice hostel, I stayed there in August 2000 during my cycling trip in Wales. It is a bit outside of the village (there's a light railway in Llangollen). As in most UK youth hostel, self-catering kitchen is available. I can't yet say whether I will be able to come - but I sure want to! Or are foreigners not allowed? |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Lanfranc Date: 19 Oct 01 - 03:41 PM No Mudcatter is a foreigner, MudGuard! Only xenophobia is alien to us! Llangollen could be chilly, but I bet it could be warmed. Other commitments permitting, I could be there. 100 Mudcatters in one building - can we have a limit on melodeons? |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: MudGuard Date: 19 Oct 01 - 03:51 PM I think a twelve-mile limit might be enough! |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: MudGuard Date: 19 Oct 01 - 03:51 PM I think a twelve-mile limit might be enough ;-) |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Nynia Date: 19 Oct 01 - 04:17 PM Ah Diva, you old Archiver you!!!! Fancy offering to turn your house into a youth hostel for new year - how kind. But is this not a case of supererogation on your part??? And have you asked Molly??? LOL Nyn. |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: John Routledge Date: 19 Oct 01 - 04:29 PM Mudguard you are of course welcome anytime!! The dates available are not ideal by any means and if there is insufficient support (min say 30 Catters) then I suggest a reservation for October 2002 when Rent a Hostel becomes available again after the summer. This restriction only applies to Youth Hostels.Other establishments charge much much more in season of course. Great Music to you all.John |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Noreen Date: 19 Oct 01 - 04:41 PM 12th and 26th Jan weekends are other musical weekends which will remove an unspecified number of potential mudcatters, including me. (Can't see Jan 4th getting many takers either). I liked the idea of Langdale on the first weekend in February - are you saying that that is no longer available, John? Don't want to sound negative, I think it's a great idea, and hope we can sort out a time and place suitable to a lot of people. Noreen |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: John Routledge Date: 19 Oct 01 - 04:46 PM Thats right Noreen - Dates quoted are all that are available. Hence my suggestion for Oct if it is to be held at a Youth Hostel. Better have a larger Gathering 8 months later. John |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: MudGuard Date: 19 Oct 01 - 04:52 PM Even if it were in Llangollen in October, it could still be called Llanstock as both Llanfair Caereinion and Llangollen start with Llan. But we should ask Bron's permission for using the term... |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: John Routledge Date: 19 Oct 01 - 04:53 PM We could go from Llangollen to Llanfair - Make a week of it!! |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Noreen Date: 19 Oct 01 - 05:01 PM It would be a shame to take over an established weekend- as I saw it, it was to be an additional gathering, not a hijack! :0) |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: John Routledge Date: 19 Oct 01 - 05:10 PM No intention of a take over :0) Assuming Bron hosts Llanfair 3 - which I sincerly hope she does - then October is effectively ruled out for any other function other than for masochists. John |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: nutty Date: 19 Oct 01 - 05:16 PM Lovely idea but remember Geordie ..... Youth Hostel accommodation is in bunk-beds in mixed dormatories. Some people may prefer not to get quite that close to their fellow mudcatters (hum) While there are some advantages ..... I could write a thesis on the disadvantages |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: John Routledge Date: 19 Oct 01 - 05:22 PM Point taken entirely Nutty.Many people will not go to a Hostel whatever the date. This was simply the first option for a Gathering. No doubt more salubrious ideas will be forthcoming if YHA does not appeal. John |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Llanfair Date: 19 Oct 01 - 05:24 PM John, I chose October because most festivals and gatherings are over by then. It would seem, however, that the dates in October next year are already occupied by an event. I can't plan that far ahead. Llangollen is 45 minutes drive from here, so a winter/spring gathering there would be nice. Are these places heated in the winter? Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: John Routledge Date: 19 Oct 01 - 05:39 PM Bron - Lovely central heating just like a hospital.All other mod cons. The Coach house part of the hostel has 56 beds in 9 bedrooms as follows 5x2 Beds; 1x7 beds; 1x10 beds ; 1x11 beds and 1x18 beds. If Llanfair is anything to go by everyone will want the 18 bed dorm!!. Will give you a call tomorrow. Cheers John |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Diva Date: 19 Oct 01 - 06:02 PM Nyn,what is superrewhateveritwas????? Is this one of your fancy ICS terms. We are a bit more down to earth in Archiving as you know.LOL And Molly could lead the singing!!!! |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Matthew Edwards Date: 19 Oct 01 - 06:12 PM Llangollen or Langdale both appeal, they both are great places. Personally I'd prefer Langdale simply on the grounds that the Lake District mountains are more interesting walking than the Berwyns or the Clwydian hills. But I'll go with the consensual opinion. There should be B&B's, or self-catering accommodation in both places for those who can't stand the thought of dormitories. Thanks Geordie for starting the ball rolling on this. |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Gareth Date: 19 Oct 01 - 06:30 PM Mudgard - No problems on nationality - Youth Hostels in Wales welcom the Saxons !! Gareth |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Linda Kelly Date: 19 Oct 01 - 07:06 PM Given that it took John and I about 8 hours to get to Llanfair from Hull I anticipate that in order to get to Llangollen in January, then we ought to start making tracks next week. Lake District sounds nice though. |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Morticia Date: 19 Oct 01 - 07:11 PM sounds good to me, either one. |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Liz the Squeak Date: 19 Oct 01 - 07:11 PM I'm up for it, any one of those weekends is good at the moment. But remember that the second weekend in Jan is usually the Whittlesey Straw Bear weekend so that may knock a few people out of the running. LTS and probably Manitas too..... |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 19 Oct 01 - 09:10 PM I have just got in from work, (I work nights).This sounds great, wherever & whenever it is, I will book both weekends off work tomorrow.I will sleep anywhere,(in a puddle, on a roundabout, under a tree or just about anywhere else!).Does anyone from Hull want a lift? There are around 30 Catters in Hull, I offered a lift to anyone who wanted to go to Llanstock, the only person to accept was Ickle Dorrit. I wonder if it is my car that put them off, it is a rusty old Sierra, that I paid 20 pounds for! |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 19 Oct 01 - 09:14 PM Ickle Dorrit-It is your fault it took so long, if we had not gone to see Nick Root we would have got there earlier! |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: brid widder Date: 20 Oct 01 - 06:41 AM John your car is fab...it's got all 4 wheels...what else do you need!..I got in a bit of bother at work cos of staying on at Warwick on the sunday night...couldn't drag myself away see...so can only do festivals where I KNOW I can get back on public transport...even if the driver chooses to stay...either that or try to get monday off...which is difficult...also a long journey in January might be scuppered by the weather...so in principle the idea is great...wish it was closer to the centre of the universe(Hull) though... |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Mrs.Duck Date: 20 Oct 01 - 11:05 AM I would hardly call Llangollen central! I think Langdale would be a lot better or maybe somewhere in Derbyshire which would be more accessible for anyone coming from North or South. Bill was talking about February in Langdale does anyone know if he has enquired about availability? |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 20 Oct 01 - 11:11 AM I have had a look at the yha website myself, but I can't seem to make much sense of it all, there again I am a bit thick! I know there is a youth hostel in Beverley, but I dont know if it is booked up or big enough. |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: John MacKenzie Date: 20 Oct 01 - 11:32 AM Well as I've got a drive of nearly 5 hours to get to the English border, I vote for Langdale, I think that Wales would be a shade too far for me. Will definitely come if it is held at Langdale. Jock |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Mrs.Duck Date: 20 Oct 01 - 11:45 AM I seriously think Llangollen would be a mistake. Mudcatters like Giok would find the distance prohibitive and we could end up with a very expensive weekend if we don't fill the hostel! Perhaps we should go for a 'show of hands' to see what the take up might be. We would certainly be interested in Derbyshire, Lakes or similar but would have to say no to Wales. |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: MudGuard Date: 20 Oct 01 - 11:46 AM Gareth, I am not Saxon, I am Bavarian! |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 20 Oct 01 - 11:54 AM I will go wherever it is but I would prefer it to be a bit nearer if possible. |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Gareth Date: 20 Oct 01 - 12:04 PM Mudguard - Thank goodness for that !!! Then you bear no tribal reponsability for the lost lands east of the River Severn. Gareth
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Noreen Date: 20 Oct 01 - 12:36 PM The idea of this thread was indeeed for a 'show of hands' as you say, Mrs. Duck. My thought was that Langdale is probably just as accessible as Llangollen, if not more so, being closer to central motorway routes. 'Tis a long way for some people, granted, but it would be lovely to have a Scottish contingent. We did enquire about Derbyshire and more central places, but the size of hostel I think was an issue there- we wanted one big enough that no-one would be turned away. Also, not all youth hostels are included in this scheme where we can take over the whole place! Once we have some idea of possible interest and numbers, we could go ahead and book. So, please all, indicate whether you'd be interested or not, which dates and which venue. Thanks! Noreen |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Hilary Date: 20 Oct 01 - 01:01 PM Great idea, Either weekend in january is ok, the 2nd weekend in february is the Cheltenham Folk Festival. I'll happily promise not to bring the melodeon, haven't picked the *7%"**$4 thing up in months anyway. All of the venues are good, so long as the central heating is working ! Hilary |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: John Routledge Date: 20 Oct 01 - 01:57 PM Langdale is possible as set out in my second post. If that is preferred location it can be reserved. 90+ beds there - so if we dont get large numbers cost will be much higher per head. Will quote figures when I get back again from Failsworth - Great start there by the way. Either will make a good base. NNB THESE ARE THE ONLY HOSTELS BIG ENOUGH AND AVAILABLE FOR EXCLUSIVE USE in the UK Beverly is beautiful but only 34 beds - May be enough!! Likely/possible attendees please. John
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Gareth Date: 20 Oct 01 - 02:09 PM Well I could renew my passport, shave my beard and sneak over the border. My personal preference is for LLangollen (It's easier to chat the sheep up if you speak the same toungue) but I'll go with the majority. Cost up to £20 head/night would seem in order - dates, as things stand no problems with any mooted Gareth |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Morticia Date: 20 Oct 01 - 02:10 PM Yes, Gomez and I...either venue, either date. |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Liz the Squeak Date: 20 Oct 01 - 05:11 PM Beverley is indeed lovely, but watch out that it doesn't clash with the Sidmouth Middle Bar Reunion weekend... usually around the first weekend in Feb. LTS |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: brid widder Date: 20 Oct 01 - 06:30 PM Langdale very likely...with a lift in John's wonderful car...although probably not during January. Llangollen I'm afraid I'd have to give a miss. Beverley...absolultey definitely any dates!! One or two points in Beverley's favour...there is B&B accomodation around for those who can't face dorms, quite a few Catters who live near enough to join in without actually taking up a bed ( or even with spare beds!)and several welcoming hostelries very near the Hostel! |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Linda Kelly Date: 20 Oct 01 - 06:34 PM Beverley is a very very nice place to visit and the hostel is lovely and I guess between the Hull catters we could fit a few people in, but it is a long way to travel. |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: Gareth Date: 20 Oct 01 - 06:56 PM Beverly - a far way to travel ? Ye Gods - The Lake district is 280 mile from Caerphilly !! Gareth |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: brid widder Date: 20 Oct 01 - 07:00 PM Beverley a long way to travel? 8 miles...well yes Linda I see what you mean! |
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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 From: John Routledge Date: 20 Oct 01 - 07:46 PM LANGDALE Cost is £690 for 2 nights payable 8 weeks before occupation date. 96 beds in 2 x 3-4 beds, 8 x 5-8 beds and 4 x 11 beds ie 14 dorms. If 35 people paid £20 then Langdale is on financially. more than 35 then obviously cost comes down. Please remember this is an OPTION for a National Gathering involving an exclusive use of a Youth Hostel.I will happily book a smaller scale sort of Yorkshire/North Gathering if that is what is wanted!! Will collect thoughts and post later today Cheers John |
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