Subject: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX From: GUEST,Rich-Joy Date: 27 Oct 01 - 04:29 AM I have located the words I was after - as was Mudcatter Steve Parkes in 1999 ... they were supplied me by Tony Suttor of Darwin, Australia. He sang a great version of this, along with Paul Lawler and Sharon Mannix in the a cappella harmony trio CHAMELEON, from Darwin in the late 70's/early 80's. I'm unsure whether the (English) Ripley Wayfarers actually combined The Carrion Crow and the usual "Fox went out on a chilly night" songs to create this top little number, or if it is from "the Tradition" ... DADDY FOX 1. Daddy Fox went out on a chilly night With a ring tong dilly dong kyro me Prayed for the moon to give him light With a ring tong dilly dong kyro me. ch. Hey fa la lee, fa la la, fa la lero Hey fa la lero lero lee Up jumped John, ringin' on his bell With a ring tong dilly dong kyro me. 2. He ran till he came to a cozy pen The ducks and geese were kept therein 3. He grabbed the grey goose by the neck Up with the little ones over his back 4. Old Mother Flipper-Flopper jumped out of bed Out of the window she stuck her little head 5. John ran up to the top of the hill Blew his little horn both loud and shrill 6. The fox he ran to his cozy den There were the little ones 8, 9, 10 7. Then the fox and his wife without any strife Cut up the goose with a carving knife RJB Sorry, but could some experienced Mudcatter please link this to the two(?) threads concerning FOX songs - mentioned in the thread to do with Unsatisfied Requests. Thanks. Cheers.
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE FOX From: GUEST,Sigurd Date: 27 Oct 01 - 08:03 AM THE FOX The fox went out to the chase one night Prayed to the moon to give him light He had many a mile to go that night Before he reached the town-o, town-o town-o, Many a mile to go that night before he reached the town Many a mile to go that night before he reached the town He ran 'til he came to a great big pen Where the ducks and the geese were kept there in Said a couple of you gonna grease my chin Before I leave this town o, town o, town o Couple of you gonna grease my chin before I leave this town Couple of you gonna grease my chin before I leave this town He grabbed the grey goose by the neck Throwed a duck across his back He didn't amind with the quack, quack quack And the legs all dang-ling down-o, down-o, down-o Didn't amind with the quack, quack quack And the legs all dang-ling down-o, down-o, down-o Didn't amind with the quack, quack quack And the legs all dang-ling down-o, down-o, down-o Old mother Flipper Flapper jumped out of bed Out of the window she cocked her head Cryin' John, John the grey goose is gone And the fox is on the town-o, town-o, town-o John, John the grey goose is gone And the fox is on the town-o John, John the grey goose is gone And the fox is on the town-o Well, the fox he came to his own den There were the little ones, eight, nine, ten Saying Daddy you better go back again 'Cause it must be a mighty fine town-o, town-o, town-o Saying Daddy you better go back again 'Cause it must be a mighty fine town Saying Daddy you better go back again 'Cause it must be a mighty fine town Well, the fox and his wife without any strife Cut up the goose with a carving knife They never had such a supper in their life And the little ones chewed on the bones-o, bones-o, bones-o Never had such a supper in their life And the little ones chewed on the bones Never had such a supper in their life And the little ones chewed on the bones ---Jeff (PA)--- |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE FOX (from Harry Belafonte) From: GUEST,Sigurd Date: 27 Oct 01 - 08:05 AM Here an other version as sung by Belafonte in 1954.Enjoy
THE FOX ---Jeff (PA)--- |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX From: AllisonA(Animaterra) Date: 27 Oct 01 - 08:13 AM What I find so fascinating about your version, Rich-Joy, is that it's such a blending of two songs, the Fox as posted by Sigurd, and the umpteen versions of "Sing-song Kitty can't you ky-me-oh" which I understand to be the song with the most versions anywhere. Usually it's about the Frog and the Mouse, not the Fox. Versions in the DT includePuddy and Mouse and sometimes Kemo Kimo. I've never heard the Daddy Fox version before! |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE CARRION CROW From: Herga Kitty Date: 27 Oct 01 - 02:28 PM Don't know about the Frog and the Mouse, but Rich-Joy's chorus is the one I know for THE CARRION CROW -
The carrion crow sat on an oak,
Oh wife, oh wife, fetch me my bow,
The tailor shot, but he missed his mark
The old sow died and the bells did toll, Kitty |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE FOX From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 27 Oct 01 - 02:34 PM An South African variant of The Fox, from Marais and Miranda. This was to a quite different tune from the "classic" tune a la Burl Ives, Joan Baez, et al., but unfortunately I have no ability to post the tune. THE FOX The Fox went out on a moonlight night He came at last to the farmer's yard, He siezed the black duck by the neck He took the gray goose by the sleeve. Then old Mrs. Slipper-Slopper jumped out of bed, A South African version from "Ballads of Many Lands", Marais and Miranda, early 50s. No copyright claim or date shown on disk or sleeve. DRO Dave Oesterreich |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX From: Lin in Kansas Date: 27 Oct 01 - 02:36 PM Here's the link to the other two threads: click and here. I've also linked this thread in the "Unanswered Requests PermaThread." Thanks for posting, everyone--what a variety for this song! Lin |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 27 Oct 01 - 04:36 PM I have to eat some of my words above. Marais and Miranda do NOT say this is a South African version. M&M themselves were from South Africa (hence my confoozlement), but they list the song as American. I hope the elves will delete the reference to it being South African before putting it in the DT if they do. Dave Oesterreich |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX From: GUEST,maxine Date: 27 Oct 01 - 05:46 PM A wonderful friend of ours was killed in August this year. He was only 37 with a lovely family. He played the guitar and sang beautifully. We had many a fun night playing guitars and singing,and Daddy Fox was one of the songs we will remember him best for. We thought when he went the song had gone with him - but just looking through Mudcat has proved us wrong. We play guitar too and wondered if anyone out there knew the guitar chords for this song? Thankyou Maxine |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX From: GUEST,Tony in Darwin Date: 27 Oct 01 - 10:05 PM Rich-Joy, I've misled you! On singing it through to myself, I discover the 2nd verse should read "He ran till he came to a great big pen" Mea culpa. Tony |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX From: rich-joy Date: 06 May 04 - 03:18 AM Can anyone confirm if the version of "Daddy Fox" in my FIRST post in this thread (i.e. the one mixed with "The Carrion Crow") was cobbled together by The English group "The Riply Wayfarers" - OR is it a "trad" compilation ??? Thanks! Cheers! R-J |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX From: GUEST,Philippa Date: 06 May 04 - 05:27 AM I learned the song at primary school. Is that common? Did you learn a version of this song at school, and if so, where were you raised? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX From: rich-joy Date: 06 May 04 - 05:47 AM Hi Philippa, if you learnt the "ring-tong, dilly-dong, kyro me" version of "Daddy Fox" at school and it was pre the 1960s, then that PROBABLY points to a more "trad" origin ... If not, then the Ripley Wayfarers are still in the frame!! Cheers! R-J |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 06 May 04 - 02:37 PM Might be hard pressed to find anybody (over a certain age, anyway) who didn't sing a form of that song at school! The best-known would still be the set that appeared in Baring-Gould and Sharp's English Folk-Songs for Schools in 1905. It has been much re-printed, in all manner of songbooks, since then. The set you refer to does look as if it's had part of an American version of The Carrion Crow grafted into it. Some years back, an extract heard from a Midlands group was posted at Daddy Fox; it's the same, and like as not they got it from the Wayfarers. I'd be surprised if this were a traditional variant. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX From: John MacKenzie Date: 06 May 04 - 03:24 PM Uncle Dave I seem to remember an extra verse along the lines of. Well he ran till he came to his great big den And there were his little ones 8 9 10 They said Daddy Daddy better go back again For it must be a mighty fine town oh. JGM |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE FOX (from Baring-Gould) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 06 May 04 - 05:03 PM Malcolm mentions Baring-Gould and Sharp. In 1895, Baring-Gould published his "A Book of Nursery Rhymes." I can't find it posted. Here is the one he used, without comments. Lyr. Add: THE FOX The fox went out one moonshiny night And prayed for the moon to give him good light, For he'd many a mile to go that night Before he came to his den, O! Chorus: Den, O!, Den O! For he'd many a mile to go that night Before he came to his den, O! At last he came to a large farmyard, Where the ducks and the geese cackled, all afeared. The best of all shall grease my beard Before I get to my den, O! He took a grey goose all up by the neck, He laid a duck across his back, And never regarded their quack, quack, quack, With the legs of him dangling down, O! Old Mother Snipper Snapper jumped out of bed, And opening the casement popped out her old head, Crying, 'John, O John! The grey goose is dead, And the Fox is over the down, O!' Then John got up to the top of the hill, And he blew his horn, both lusty and shrill, 'Blow on,' said the Fox, 'sweet music still! I wish me home in my den, O!' At last he came to his cosy den, Where gathered his young ones, nine and ten, Quoth they, 'Daddy, you must go there again, For sure 'tis a lucky town, O!' The fox and his wife, without any strife, They cut up the goose without fork and knife, And said 'twas the best they'd ate in their life, And the young ones picked the bones, O! Baring-Gould |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 06 May 04 - 05:09 PM Sorry! Baring-Gould |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 06 May 04 - 08:04 PM At the end of baring-Gould's book, I found notes. "The Fox"- Traditional throughout England. It appears in The Opera, or cabinet of Song, published at Sheaf in Edinburgh in 1831, edited by James Ballantyne..." |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 16 Jun 08 - 11:03 PM Any printings of "The Fox" before the 18th c.? In Gammer Gurton. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX From: Georgiansilver Date: 17 Jun 08 - 03:05 AM ADD:- Now old daddy fox will surely be OK Because parliament banned fox hunting one day. So he can go wherever he will, And kill all the birds that he wants o. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX From: Rowan Date: 17 Jun 08 - 06:46 PM G'day rich-joy! Tony sang it even earlier than along with Paul Lawler and Sharon Mannix in the a cappella harmony trio CHAMELEON, from Darwin in the late 70's/early 80's; he sang it with the rest of us in Pageant in the mid 70s. From memory, Tony was the one who introduced it to us and had been singing it in the Sydney scene before I (from Melbourne - well, Steiglitz, actually - at the time) became part of Pageant. My money is on the Wayfarers as the insigators. Cheers, Rowan |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Daddy Fox From: GUEST,Tony in Darwin Date: 04 Jul 10 - 02:04 AM Yes, I learned / learnt the song from the Ripley Wayfarers LP "Chips and Brown Sauce" |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Daddy Fox From: Richard Bridge Date: 04 Jul 10 - 07:32 AM No-one mentions the Young Tradition version. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Daddy Fox From: Artful Codger Date: 04 Jul 10 - 08:17 AM The Bellamy/YT version has been mentioned in the other threads, which Lin in Kansas cross-linked above. How much replication do we need? |
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