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Lyr Add: Daddy Fox

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FOX WENT OUT (Den-O)
THE FALSE FOX
THE FOX
THE FOX (2)
THE FOX AND THE GOOSE


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GUEST,Rich-Joy 27 Oct 01 - 04:29 AM
GUEST,Sigurd 27 Oct 01 - 08:03 AM
GUEST,Sigurd 27 Oct 01 - 08:05 AM
AllisonA(Animaterra) 27 Oct 01 - 08:13 AM
Herga Kitty 27 Oct 01 - 02:28 PM
Uncle_DaveO 27 Oct 01 - 02:34 PM
Lin in Kansas 27 Oct 01 - 02:36 PM
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GUEST,maxine 27 Oct 01 - 05:46 PM
GUEST,Tony in Darwin 27 Oct 01 - 10:05 PM
rich-joy 06 May 04 - 03:18 AM
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rich-joy 06 May 04 - 05:47 AM
Malcolm Douglas 06 May 04 - 02:37 PM
John MacKenzie 06 May 04 - 03:24 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 06 May 04 - 05:03 PM
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Subject: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX
From: GUEST,Rich-Joy
Date: 27 Oct 01 - 04:29 AM

I have located the words I was after - as was Mudcatter Steve Parkes in 1999 ... they were supplied me by Tony Suttor of Darwin, Australia. He sang a great version of this, along with Paul Lawler and Sharon Mannix in the a cappella harmony trio CHAMELEON, from Darwin in the late 70's/early 80's. I'm unsure whether the (English) Ripley Wayfarers actually combined The Carrion Crow and the usual "Fox went out on a chilly night" songs to create this top little number, or if it is from "the Tradition" ...

DADDY FOX

1. Daddy Fox went out on a chilly night
With a ring tong dilly dong kyro me
Prayed for the moon to give him light
With a ring tong dilly dong kyro me.

ch. Hey fa la lee, fa la la, fa la lero
Hey fa la lero lero lee
Up jumped John, ringin' on his bell
With a ring tong dilly dong kyro me.

2. He ran till he came to a cozy pen
The ducks and geese were kept therein

3. He grabbed the grey goose by the neck
Up with the little ones over his back

4. Old Mother Flipper-Flopper jumped out of bed
Out of the window she stuck her little head

5. John ran up to the top of the hill
Blew his little horn both loud and shrill

6. The fox he ran to his cozy den
There were the little ones 8, 9, 10

7. Then the fox and his wife without any strife
Cut up the goose with a carving knife

RJB

Sorry, but could some experienced Mudcatter please link this to the two(?) threads concerning FOX songs - mentioned in the thread to do with Unsatisfied Requests. Thanks. Cheers.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE FOX
From: GUEST,Sigurd
Date: 27 Oct 01 - 08:03 AM

THE FOX

The fox went out to the chase one night
Prayed to the moon to give him light
He had many a mile to go that night
Before he reached the town-o, town-o town-o,
Many a mile to go that night before he reached the town
Many a mile to go that night before he reached the town

He ran 'til he came to a great big pen
Where the ducks and the geese were kept there in
Said a couple of you gonna grease my chin
Before I leave this town o, town o, town o
Couple of you gonna grease my chin before I leave this town
Couple of you gonna grease my chin before I leave this town

He grabbed the grey goose by the neck
Throwed a duck across his back
He didn't amind with the quack, quack quack
And the legs all dang-ling down-o, down-o, down-o
Didn't amind with the quack, quack quack
And the legs all dang-ling down-o, down-o, down-o
Didn't amind with the quack, quack quack
And the legs all dang-ling down-o, down-o, down-o

Old mother Flipper Flapper jumped out of bed
Out of the window she cocked her head
Cryin' John, John the grey goose is gone
And the fox is on the town-o, town-o, town-o
John, John the grey goose is gone
And the fox is on the town-o
John, John the grey goose is gone
And the fox is on the town-o

Well, the fox he came to his own den
There were the little ones, eight, nine, ten
Saying Daddy you better go back again
'Cause it must be a mighty fine town-o, town-o, town-o
Saying Daddy you better go back again
'Cause it must be a mighty fine town
Saying Daddy you better go back again
'Cause it must be a mighty fine town

Well, the fox and his wife without any strife
Cut up the goose with a carving knife
They never had such a supper in their life
And the little ones chewed on the bones-o, bones-o, bones-o
Never had such a supper in their life
And the little ones chewed on the bones
Never had such a supper in their life
And the little ones chewed on the bones



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---Jeff (PA)---


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE FOX (from Harry Belafonte)
From: GUEST,Sigurd
Date: 27 Oct 01 - 08:05 AM

Here an other version as sung by Belafonte in 1954.Enjoy

THE FOX

The fox went out to the chase one night
Prayed to the moon to give him light
He had many a mile to go that night
Before he reached the town-o, town-o town-o,
Many a mile to go that night before he reached the town
Many a mile to go that night before he reached the town

He ran 'til he came to a great big pen
Where the ducks and the geese were kept there in
Said a couple of you gonna grease my chin
Before I leave this town o, town o, town o
Couple of you gonna grease my chin before I leave this town
Couple of you gonna grease my chin before I leave this town

He grabbed the grey goose by the neck
Throwed a duck across his back
He didn't amind with the quack, quack quack
And the legs all dang-ling down-o, down-o, down-o
Didn't amind with the quack, quack quack
And the legs all dang-ling down-o, down-o, down-o
Didn't amind with the quack, quack quack
And the legs all dang-ling down-o, down-o, down-o

Old mother Flipper Flapper jumped out of bed
Out of the window she cocked her head
Cryin' John, John the grey goose is gone
And the fox is on the town-o, town-o, town-o
John, John the grey goose is gone
And the fox is on the town-o
John, John the grey goose is gone
And the fox is on the town-o

Well, the fox he came to his own den
There were the little ones, eight, nine, ten
Saying Daddy you better go back again
'Cause it must be a mighty fine town-o, town-o, town-o
Saying Daddy you better go back again
'Cause it must be a mighty fine town
Saying Daddy you better go back again
'Cause it must be a mighty fine town

Well, the fox and his wife without any strife
Cut up the goose with a carving knife
They never had such a supper in their life
And the little ones chewed on the bones-o, bones-o, bones-o
Never had such a supper in their life
And the little ones chewed on the bones
Never had such a supper in their life
And the little ones chewed on the bones


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---Jeff (PA)---


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 27 Oct 01 - 08:13 AM

What I find so fascinating about your version, Rich-Joy, is that it's such a blending of two songs, the Fox as posted by Sigurd, and the umpteen versions of "Sing-song Kitty can't you ky-me-oh" which I understand to be the song with the most versions anywhere. Usually it's about the Frog and the Mouse, not the Fox. Versions in the DT includePuddy and Mouse and sometimes Kemo Kimo. I've never heard the Daddy Fox version before!


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE CARRION CROW
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 27 Oct 01 - 02:28 PM

Don't know about the Frog and the Mouse, but Rich-Joy's chorus is the one I know for THE CARRION CROW -

The carrion crow sat on an oak,
Watching a tailor mend his cloak.

Oh wife, oh wife, fetch me my bow,
That I might shoot at the carrion crow.

The tailor shot, but he missed his mark
And shot his old sow through the heart.

The old sow died and the bells did toll,
And the little pigs prayed for the old sow's soul.

Kitty

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 4-Sep-02.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE FOX
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 27 Oct 01 - 02:34 PM

An South African variant of The Fox, from Marais and Miranda. This was to a quite different tune from the "classic" tune a la Burl Ives, Joan Baez, et al., but unfortunately I have no ability to post the tune.

THE FOX

The Fox went out on a moonlight night
And he begged for the moon for to give him light
He'd many a mile to go that night
Before he came back to his den, ho,
Den ho, Den ho
....He'd many a mile to go that night
....Before he came back to his den, ho!

He came at last to the farmer's yard,
Where the ducks and geese declared it hard
That their sleep he'd broken and rest bemarred
By the visit of Mr. Fox, ho!
....(Same treatment of last two lines)

He siezed the black duck by the neck
And he flung her right across his back
The duck, she cried, a quack-quack-quack
With her legs all dangling down, ho! ....(Same treatment of last two lines.)

He took the gray goose by the sleeve.
Says he, "Madam, goose, and by your leave
I'll carry you off, without reprieve
And I'll take you back to my den, ho!"
....(Same treatment of last two lines.)

Then old Mrs. Slipper-Slopper jumped out of bed,
And out of the window popped her head,
Saying, "John, John, the gray goose is gone,
And the fox is away to his den, ho!"
....(Same treatment of last two lines.

A South African version from "Ballads of Many Lands", Marais and Miranda, early 50s. No copyright claim or date shown on disk or sleeve.

DRO Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 27 Oct 01 - 02:36 PM

Here's the link to the other two threads: click and here.

I've also linked this thread in the "Unanswered Requests PermaThread." Thanks for posting, everyone--what a variety for this song!

Lin


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 27 Oct 01 - 04:36 PM

I have to eat some of my words above. Marais and Miranda do NOT say this is a South African version. M&M themselves were from South Africa (hence my confoozlement), but they list the song as American. I hope the elves will delete the reference to it being South African before putting it in the DT if they do.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX
From: GUEST,maxine
Date: 27 Oct 01 - 05:46 PM

A wonderful friend of ours was killed in August this year. He was only 37 with a lovely family. He played the guitar and sang beautifully. We had many a fun night playing guitars and singing,and Daddy Fox was one of the songs we will remember him best for. We thought when he went the song had gone with him - but just looking through Mudcat has proved us wrong. We play guitar too and wondered if anyone out there knew the guitar chords for this song? Thankyou Maxine


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX
From: GUEST,Tony in Darwin
Date: 27 Oct 01 - 10:05 PM

Rich-Joy, I've misled you! On singing it through to myself, I discover the 2nd verse should read
"He ran till he came to a great big pen"

Mea culpa.

Tony


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX
From: rich-joy
Date: 06 May 04 - 03:18 AM

Can anyone confirm if the version of "Daddy Fox" in my FIRST post in this thread (i.e. the one mixed with "The Carrion Crow") was cobbled together by The English group "The Riply Wayfarers" -
OR
is it a "trad" compilation ???

Thanks!

Cheers! R-J


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 06 May 04 - 05:27 AM

I learned the song at primary school.
Is that common? Did you learn a version of this song at school, and if so, where were you raised?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX
From: rich-joy
Date: 06 May 04 - 05:47 AM

Hi Philippa,
if you learnt the "ring-tong, dilly-dong, kyro me" version of "Daddy Fox" at school and it was pre the 1960s, then that PROBABLY points to a more "trad" origin ...
If not, then the Ripley Wayfarers are still in the frame!!

Cheers! R-J


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 06 May 04 - 02:37 PM

Might be hard pressed to find anybody (over a certain age, anyway) who didn't sing a form of that song at school! The best-known would still be the set that appeared in Baring-Gould and Sharp's English Folk-Songs for Schools in 1905. It has been much re-printed, in all manner of songbooks, since then.

The set you refer to does look as if it's had part of an American version of The Carrion Crow grafted into it. Some years back, an extract heard from a Midlands group was posted at Daddy Fox; it's the same, and like as not they got it from the Wayfarers. I'd be surprised if this were a traditional variant.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 06 May 04 - 03:24 PM

Uncle Dave
I seem to remember an extra verse along the lines of.

Well he ran till he came to his great big den
And there were his little ones 8 9 10
They said Daddy Daddy better go back again
For it must be a mighty fine town oh.

JGM


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE FOX (from Baring-Gould)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 06 May 04 - 05:03 PM

Malcolm mentions Baring-Gould and Sharp. In 1895, Baring-Gould published his "A Book of Nursery Rhymes." I can't find it posted. Here is the one he used, without comments.

Lyr. Add: THE FOX

The fox went out one moonshiny night
And prayed for the moon to give him good light,
For he'd many a mile to go that night
Before he came to his den, O!

Chorus:
Den, O!, Den O!
For he'd many a mile to go that night
Before he came to his den, O!

At last he came to a large farmyard,
Where the ducks and the geese cackled, all afeared.
The best of all shall grease my beard
Before I get to my den, O!

He took a grey goose all up by the neck,
He laid a duck across his back,
And never regarded their quack, quack, quack,
With the legs of him dangling down, O!

Old Mother Snipper Snapper jumped out of bed,
And opening the casement popped out her old head,
Crying, 'John, O John! The grey goose is dead,
And the Fox is over the down, O!'

Then John got up to the top of the hill,
And he blew his horn, both lusty and shrill,
'Blow on,' said the Fox, 'sweet music still!
I wish me home in my den, O!'

At last he came to his cosy den,
Where gathered his young ones, nine and ten,
Quoth they, 'Daddy, you must go there again,
For sure 'tis a lucky town, O!'

The fox and his wife, without any strife,
They cut up the goose without fork and knife,
And said 'twas the best they'd ate in their life,
And the young ones picked the bones, O!

Baring-Gould


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 06 May 04 - 05:09 PM

Sorry! Baring-Gould


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 06 May 04 - 08:04 PM

At the end of baring-Gould's book, I found notes.
"The Fox"- Traditional throughout England. It appears in The Opera, or cabinet of Song, published at Sheaf in Edinburgh in 1831, edited by James Ballantyne..."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 16 Jun 08 - 11:03 PM

Any printings of "The Fox" before the 18th c.? In Gammer Gurton.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 17 Jun 08 - 03:05 AM

ADD:-
Now old daddy fox will surely be OK
Because parliament banned fox hunting one day.
So he can go wherever he will,
And kill all the birds that he wants o.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DADDY FOX
From: Rowan
Date: 17 Jun 08 - 06:46 PM

G'day rich-joy!

Tony sang it even earlier than along with Paul Lawler and Sharon Mannix in the a cappella harmony trio CHAMELEON, from Darwin in the late 70's/early 80's; he sang it with the rest of us in Pageant in the mid 70s. From memory, Tony was the one who introduced it to us and had been singing it in the Sydney scene before I (from Melbourne - well, Steiglitz, actually - at the time) became part of Pageant.

My money is on the Wayfarers as the insigators.

Cheers, Rowan


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Daddy Fox
From: GUEST,Tony in Darwin
Date: 04 Jul 10 - 02:04 AM

Yes, I learned / learnt the song from the Ripley Wayfarers LP "Chips and Brown Sauce"


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Daddy Fox
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Jul 10 - 07:32 AM

No-one mentions the Young Tradition version.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Daddy Fox
From: Artful Codger
Date: 04 Jul 10 - 08:17 AM

The Bellamy/YT version has been mentioned in the other threads, which Lin in Kansas cross-linked above. How much replication do we need?


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