Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)

Subject: BS Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 06 Dec 01 - 12:17 AM

I am listening to Byker Hill, and they sing "They drink bumble made from gin" Does anybody know what bumble is?Thanks.john

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: BS Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: GUEST,Pete the head
Date: 06 Dec 01 - 06:38 AM

I's a mix of beer and gin, according to this page anyway

Pete

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: BS Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: Gervase
Date: 06 Dec 01 - 06:40 AM

It's a Geordie term for what Londoners used to call Dog's Nose - a pint of beer with a shot of spirits in it, usually gin. Not as bad as it sounds, either.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: BS Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 09:43 PM

Thanks.john

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: BS Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: Padre
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 11:13 PM

It is the approximate equivalent of the Boilermaker (bourbon and beer)a lovely way to ensure that you won't be available for the last chorus of the evening!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: BS Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 08 Apr 03 - 02:27 PM

Beware the sting of the Bumble! I once got mortally inebriate after a few in Newcastle. They spoil both the beer and the gin. What fools we mortals be ...

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: BS Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: greg stephens
Date: 08 Apr 03 - 02:38 PM

Interesting thread this, ntoicing the 2001 post from John from Hull. he spelt perfectly in those days... possibly the discovery of bumble put paid to all that?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: BS Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: Effsee
Date: 13 Jan 07 - 09:45 PM

What was that you said Hannah?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Jan 07 - 03:56 AM

Thence, I imagine, the Terry Pratchet invention of "Scumble".

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: Bee
Date: 14 Jan 07 - 11:42 AM

It is an even worse drink as the Dutch drink it, with genever in beer. Been there, done that, switched to drinking white vermouth for a couple months before the beer began to taste half good again.

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: terrier
Date: 14 Jan 07 - 12:14 PM

Jusht tried Guinesissshhh and Powersh.....it tashted 'oribbbble.Hic!

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 14 Jan 07 - 01:07 PM

So, Bumble is aDog's Nose! I have had a couple of them. I was surprised to find them rather tasty. A bit like a very beig G & T. Clearly a dry hoppy beer would do the job best.

Great song aswell.

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: Scrump
Date: 14 Jan 07 - 02:02 PM

What's all this "bumble" nonsense? Sounds like a mondegreen to me.

I always thought it was "bumbo" not "bumble" but then I'm not a Geordie, y'knaa.

"Bumbo" is defined in my dictionary as "a mixture of rum or gin, water, sugar, and nutmeg or similar drink".

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: bubblyrat
Date: 14 Jan 07 - 02:04 PM

Terry Pratchet invented "Scumble " ---?? I thought narrow-boats had had Scumbling as a form of decoration for many years before TP came along !!!

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: Scrump
Date: 15 Jan 07 - 04:55 AM

There probably should have been a comma after "nutmeg" in my post above.

As the lyrics say "bumbo made from gin" I thought that would have clinched it.

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: Noreen
Date: 15 Jan 07 - 05:12 AM

As the lyrics say, Scrump? Which lyrics would they be?

Sir jOhn from Hull and others have lyrics that say "They drink bumble made from gin"

There is no one set of 'correct' lyrics for a traditional song.

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: The Walrus
Date: 15 Jan 07 - 05:13 AM

bubblyrat wrote on 14 Jan 07 at 02:04 PM:
"...Terry Pratchet invented "Scumble " ---?? I thought narrow-boats had had Scumbling as a form of decoration for many years before TP came along !!!

Terry Pratchett invented the drink 'Scumble' as the 'national drink' of the Kingdom of Lancre. It's made from apples - well, mostly apples
(For further information, try the Discworld novels).

Walrus

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: Scrump
Date: 15 Jan 07 - 05:27 AM

Sir jOhn from Hull and others have lyrics that say "They drink bumble made from gin"

"Sir jOhn from Hull" said: I am listening to Byker Hill, and they sing "They drink bumble made from gin" Does anybody know what bumble is?

In other words, he wasn't referring to any printed lyrics, but was just listening to a recording. "Bumble" sounds to me like a mondegreen, i.e. he probably misheard the lyric - this is understandable if he had never heard of "bumbo".

As I said, "bumbo" is a dictionary-defined term (look it up) for a drink made from gin (or rum).

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: gnomad
Date: 15 Jan 07 - 06:43 AM

I have heard both bumbo and bumble sung. When you consider how widespread is the mispronunciation of words ending ...ble as if they were spelled ...boe, I think we have the same word here.

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: Andy Jackson
Date: 15 Jan 07 - 06:53 AM

Scumble is a technique for finishing wood with an artificial grain effect.My house is full of it. It last for years.

Bumble is the effect on the speech after consuminbg too much Gin or good beer either mixed or seperately. They don't last for years
Bumbo is a baby seat!!!! they grow up
I'm already wearing m'coat so I'll leave now.

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: Scrump
Date: 15 Jan 07 - 06:58 AM

Maybe "Sir jOhn from Hull" could have another listen, carefully, and say whether the singer says "bumble" or "bumbo".

Even then it wouldn't prove the singer had misheard it and propagated the error.

Can anyone find a dictionary definition of "bumble" meaning a drink? B*gg*red if I can.

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: curmudgeon
Date: 15 Jan 07 - 08:13 AM

Look   here in the DT - Tom

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: IanC
Date: 15 Jan 07 - 08:18 AM

Curmudgeon

Just demonstrates the basic inaccuracy of the DT (which we all know about).

:-)
Ian

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: IanC
Date: 15 Jan 07 - 08:29 AM

The same verse occurs in Elsie Marley.

At least Conrad (here) copied it directly from Stokoe's "Songs of Northern England".

:-)

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: Scrump
Date: 15 Jan 07 - 09:37 AM

Well, that version of Elsie Marley says "bumbo".

I rest my case.

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: GUEST,Sir jOhn
Date: 15 Jan 07 - 10:18 AM

Sounds like bumble to me.

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: Schantieman
Date: 15 Jan 07 - 12:42 PM

Sir Martin Carthy (well, not yet, but it can only be a matter of time)'s version, with his well-known idiosyncratic tune, is certainly bumbLE.

Steve

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: IanC
Date: 16 Jan 07 - 03:35 AM

P'raps 'e got the words off DT.

;-)

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: Scrump
Date: 16 Jan 07 - 05:19 AM

LOL :-)

Well, I'll stick to "bumbo" whatever Martin Carthy sings. Although I admire him, he's only human and I'm sure he's as capable of mishearing a lyric as anyone else.

I'll ask him next time I see him.

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: GUEST,bardan
Date: 16 Jan 07 - 06:59 PM

Could Pratchett's Scumble, have any connection with Scrumpy, which is real and also made from apples.

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 05:57 AM

Consume too much nutmeg and you will be in a coma...

:-)

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: Scrump
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 06:36 AM

Could Pratchett's Scumble, have any connection with Scrumpy, which is real and also made from apples

Sounds like it could well be, although who can tell, apart from TP himself?

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: IanC
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 06:57 AM

Ptatchett's scumble sounds to me more like a portmanteau word (scum + tumble). A good way of telling is if the words work when combined the other way round. I.e. would tumblescum fit the bill?

:-)

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: GUEST,'Murica
Date: 12 Mar 19 - 08:42 PM

Trust the yank to show up twelve years after the discussion...

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: GUEST,Evan
Date: 03 Feb 23 - 08:21 PM

Ok but can anyone tell me what a 'pitshirt' is?

Subject: RE: Help What is Bumble? (Byker Hill)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Feb 23 - 04:58 AM

Scumbling is a painting technique which I first heard used to describe the technique of achieving a wood grain effect on a narrow boat door.
Pit shirt is a shirt worn to work in the pit, most likely an over shirt.
As for bumble, I was once very drunk and latterly very sick through drinking Scrumpy with a shot of gin in it, which the locals in Polperro assured me was the right way to drink it. I think they call it teasing the Grockle in that part of the country.