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HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.

Catherine Jayne 05 Apr 02 - 08:06 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 05 Apr 02 - 08:59 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 05 Apr 02 - 09:07 AM
Peter K (Fionn) 05 Apr 02 - 09:16 AM
MMario 05 Apr 02 - 09:24 AM
Tig 05 Apr 02 - 09:24 AM
Peter K (Fionn) 05 Apr 02 - 09:31 AM
Catherine Jayne 05 Apr 02 - 09:38 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 05 Apr 02 - 09:49 AM
Catherine Jayne 05 Apr 02 - 09:52 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 05 Apr 02 - 10:10 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 05 Apr 02 - 10:21 AM
SINSULL 05 Apr 02 - 10:30 AM
Noreen 05 Apr 02 - 12:31 PM
Peter K (Fionn) 05 Apr 02 - 12:36 PM
GUEST,JohnB 05 Apr 02 - 12:45 PM
Noreen 05 Apr 02 - 12:46 PM
Noreen 05 Apr 02 - 01:08 PM
Catherine Jayne 05 Apr 02 - 01:54 PM
Peter K (Fionn) 05 Apr 02 - 05:31 PM
Ma-K 05 Apr 02 - 06:40 PM
DougR 05 Apr 02 - 06:59 PM
Catherine Jayne 06 Apr 02 - 05:21 AM
JeZeBeL 06 Apr 02 - 07:49 AM
GUEST,George 152 06 Apr 02 - 04:13 PM
GUEST 07 Apr 02 - 06:12 AM
Catherine Jayne 07 Apr 02 - 06:41 AM
JeZeBeL 07 Apr 02 - 03:19 PM
dick greenhaus 07 Apr 02 - 08:32 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 07 Apr 02 - 09:20 PM
GUEST 07 Apr 02 - 09:28 PM
Catherine Jayne 08 Apr 02 - 07:49 AM
radriano 08 Apr 02 - 11:27 AM
GUEST,jeffesh 08 Apr 02 - 01:22 PM
Jon Freeman 09 Apr 02 - 04:30 AM
Catherine Jayne 09 Apr 02 - 02:47 PM
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Subject: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 08:06 AM

Recently I fell down the stairs and was on crutches for a while. I have now been refered to a physiotherapist until I can see a consultant. I have returned today from an appointment after being told I need a 'gate assesment' on my hips as they are not alligned. I was told that I will need a hip replacement by the time I am 30 and a knee replacement by the time I am 40. I am very worried. I am 21 and have had a lot of problems with my knees. Does anyone know what a gate assesment is??? and is it likely to hurt?! I am also worried that you are only supposed to have 2-3 relacements in a lifetime and I am young and resonabley active although I have been told that this will deteriorate over the next few years. Can anyone offer any advice?

Thanx to Tig for 'holding' my hand at the hospital this morning.

catsPHiddle x


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 08:59 AM

hi Catsphiddle, it's a GAIT assesment (not gate) :-) I reckon what they want to do is watch you walking about for a bit, to see if you are balancing properley etc, don't worry about the gait assesment, it wont hurt at all.have a look at The Annexe, Pip freeman (Jon freemans mum) is a phisiopherapissed, I am sure she will reasure you and give you some good advice.i have every sympathy with you as I have knee problems as well (arthritis and cartilige problems, i really hope everything works out ok for you.


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 09:07 AM

Here is a link to The Annexe click here Just in case it didn't work, here is the address www.jonbanjo.com/forum/default2.asp


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 09:16 AM

If all the problems flow from that tumble downstairs, you are certainly paying a heavy price. But maybe there is some degenerative condition as well?

It is in your favour that clinical techniques are improving all the time, so that if you you do have artificial hip joints around age 30 you should be able to count on subsequent replacements (the number you cn have, and their durability) seeing you through to a ripe old age.

I have a pal who had to have hip replacements as a side effect of many other serious problems, not least the terminal failure of both kidneys and a subsequent transplant. His replacements are now long overdue for replacement themselves, which has involved much assessment, none of it causing any serious discomfort (but I don't know whether it included gate assessment).

This chum will be having his op at a world-renowned teaching hospital on 24 April. It is massively complicated by his lack of kidneys, serious heart problems and corrosion of the bone around the existing artificial joints.

He happened to remark to his surgeon that the mortality rate at this particular hospital was noticeably higher than at other hospitals in the region and was told that this was because the other hospitals would not take on cases such as his!

Well your problem is not on that scale, but serious enough for your age. I just hope you get a fair wind and can lead a normal and active life for many years to come, as many manage to do.


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: MMario
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 09:24 AM

a young friend of mine (your age catsPHiddle) has a degenerative joint condition that currently has him pretty much immobilized - he is scheduled for hip replacement later this month - the prognosis is this will allow him to be up and about with only a cane.

I haven't seen this in a young person - but know a dozen or so people who have had it done in their late 50's and older - and every one of them has (eventually) blessed the day they had the replacement done.


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Tig
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 09:24 AM

You weren't being very kind to the nice lady this morning - SHE didn't know that you've had problems since you were born, had heard the lectures on joints more times than you care to count and already knew all about it!! Still, it could be interesting at the 'Knee Club'. Maybe the sexcercises are kicking each other;-)).

And it is definately GAIT - silly billy.


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 09:31 AM

HERE's that link to The Annexe.

John, you've obviously got some problems with clickies. Have a look at the basic html stuff in the FAQ permathread.


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 09:38 AM

ok Tig so I cant spell but thats why I quit teaching.......I can play but but I cant spell!!!! Someone who can inflict that much pain can not possibley be nice! but nevertheless I will appologise on Monday at the knee club!!! If they were sexercises then perhaps I would be slightly happier about going back!!!!LOL!!!

Another thing is sick pay. I have phoned my employer and they say that they can't pay me sick pay until I have a date to return to work. I dont think this is correct. I couldn't possibley go back to work and stand behind a bar for hours on end at the moment. If this is their way of getting back at me for leaving them short staffed over Easter then they are being pathetic.

I refuse to let this get me down........must keep smiling.....well I will try!

cat x


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 09:49 AM

Fionn- My Clicky worked fine!
CatsPhiddle-Your boss is talking shit, you are entitled to SSP (Statutory Sick Pay) after 3 consecuitive days of being unable to work, have a chat with your local benefits office, you might be able to claim some kind of disability allowance, Incapacity Benefit?


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 09:52 AM

Thanx John I didn't think of that. Will go and phone them now.

cat


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 10:10 AM

Also give these guys a phone=DRAS (Disability Rights Advisory Service) on 01482 226234, the benefit rules are very complex and changing all the time, but these people are experts and will be able to tell you what you are entitled to, and how to claim it.It is a free service run by volounteers, they helped me when I was on sick, It is very important that you fill the claim forms in exactly right, as if there is the slightest mistake they will send them back which will delay your claim.Good Luck.john


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 10:21 AM

Fionns Clicky doesn't work! Use mine.john


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 10:30 AM

My Dad at 87 had both knees replaced. He was out of bed the next day and walking (with a great deal of pain) within two days. His projected ten day hospital stay was reduced to six. His 14 day nursing home stay for therapy was reduced to 4. The secret - grit your teeth and go for it. He will be 89 this August and walks around pain free. Before the surgery, he could barely walk at all, could not climb stairs or even walk up a curb.

I suppose a lot depends on your threshhold for pain. But why spend your twenties suffering?


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Noreen
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 12:31 PM

Poor (((Cat)))... but if they're going to need replacing, you'll be grateful that such things are possible. Rest assured, no doctor is going to put you through such a thing unless it is necessary.

(HERE's that link to The Annexe.

John, you wrote a ref instead of a href, and you need to put http:// before www in the address to get it to work.)


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 12:36 PM

Sod it - sorry folks!

THE ANNEXE!

John, sorry to rattle your cage, but in your earlier post you did say you were offering a link (clicky). You also gave the URL in case the clicky didn't work - which was thoughtful, considering that you hadn't provided a clicky at all. Taking this with your futile efforts in another thread, I still think you could benefit from having a look at that FAQ thread.


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 12:45 PM

About 5 years back , my wife could barely hobble around on two walking sticks. This was due to joint deterioration from Rheumatoid Arthritis. She had her right hip replaced, in the October, both kness (at the same time) in the February, Left hip a year later in the following Feb. She is now 51 and now walks without any aid, also does stairs and all sorts of other things she probably should not do. She still has some ankle pain if she overdoes things, shoulder pain and screwed up fingers. Her "mechanic" wants to do her shoulders and her hands. She will always have RA and the problems associated with that and will never be able to do what most of us can. Her quality of life is far better now than it was before, except she still has to put up with me. My advice forget all about the long term stuff, it will happen anyway, go for it. Good Luck, JohnB


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Noreen
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 12:46 PM

(Chill, Fionn- John's clicky didn't show up because he missed out one letter.)


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Noreen
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 01:08 PM

Cat, these links may help: looks like the most painful thing about the gait assessment might be removing the reflective stickers afterwards…!*grin*
Gait Assessment - A Guide for Patients What's involved in Gait Assessment?


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 01:54 PM

Thanx everyone xxx


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 05:31 PM

Anything you say, Noreen - especially if it's anything to do with html! Still, it all helps keep the thread exposed.

(Useful links by the way.)


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Ma-K
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 06:40 PM

It's not fun but it's better than what you have now. I have had both knees done twice. The second time they worked even better than the 1st ones. Do the therapy..Don't cheat. You'll get better results. We found that setting on the cabinet with the door open underneath made a good place to get a good push on the lower leg from my husband and get more bend in the knee. Life is not over, maybe just changed a little....Mary


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: DougR
Date: 05 Apr 02 - 06:59 PM

Cat: my wife had both a knee and a hip replaced, and she never regretted it. She had no complications from either, and no more pain. She had rheumatoid arthritis.

DougR


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 06 Apr 02 - 05:21 AM

I am desperately hoping that they wont need replacing as soon as they say they will but thank you all for the advice. Any one got any advice on how to cheer myself up chocolate and JD haven't worked. Perhaps I just need a hug.............I'll go and find Jez!! who is looking after me wonderfully.........she is a good friend.

cat


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: JeZeBeL
Date: 06 Apr 02 - 07:49 AM

Awwww bless cat...I'll look after you the best i can when i ain't working lol!! See, I told you everyone was really nice on the cat!!

I'm really greatful to all of you for helping to give her support on this matter, because to be faced with such a thing at our age is quite scary to say the least especially when you're only allowed 2-3 in your lifetime. Cat is a very active person, well, you have to be where we live cos it's a mile and a half walk to the nearest shop or bus stop.....or pub in her case lol!! She walks to work with me quite frequently, not to keep me company though...she just wants ciggarettes lol!! It is good for us!!

My dad has arthritis and is now about 53, but he refuses to have his hips and knees replaced til he literally can't walk anymore, not because he's scared of it, just because he'd rather carry on as he is very active due to his job and doesn't want to wear them away.

I am arthritic aswell, and will eventually need knee replacements...but we try and carry on and look on the brightside of life for the moment and will cross that bridge when we come to it.

It's cool living with cat, cos we can support each other when we need it...yeah we argue sometimes...but doesn't eveybody? When you've known each other for nearly 22 years(all our life) then what do you expect? I'm just happy i've got such a good friend!!

Jez xxx


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: GUEST,George 152
Date: 06 Apr 02 - 04:13 PM

I had a left hip replacement in 1993 after waiting for three years. Almost total pain relief and a lot better mobility immediately. And had my right knee replaced in Febuary this year after a wait of almost two years Again the pain and mobility problems almost disappear. Knees are reputed to be the sorer operation but I didn't find it so.

About the only phrase that can offer is 'move it or lose it' so good luck and try not to worry to much


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Apr 02 - 06:12 AM

You should have drunk your milk as a child. It was your own doing/un-doing. Start suppliments now, they will help slow the osteoporrosis - just think of what a mess you will have by age 60.


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 07 Apr 02 - 06:41 AM

I have a lactose difficency........I can only drink skimmed milk and that is limited. I dont even want to think about what state I will be in by the time I am 60....If indeed I live that long. I do take suppliments. I have enough to think about without thinking 38 years in the future. It is not entiley my fault I am like this I have had a lot of these problems since birth I dont need comments like that from someone who wont even name themselves. I have enough to deal with at the moment.

Thanx to all those who have offered advice and support it is grately appreciated.

cat x


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: JeZeBeL
Date: 07 Apr 02 - 03:19 PM

GUEST: If you knew Cat aswell as I do, I have known her all our lives...then you would know that she is lactose intolerant and has to drink skimmed milk and take suppliments..I have a hard enough time trying to get her to do that. How dare you make such hurtful and irresponsible and judgemental comments about someone you don't know.....or maybe you do...but we don't know that as yet again we have trolls like you making stupid remarks and being too much of a coward to put their name up on here.....I even believe that you are the person trolling my very good friend Firecat...who is new to drinking.....but, I'm not going to judge as I don't have all the facts.

CatsPHiddle is having enough problems to deal with without s**theads like yourself making obsured and uncalled for remarks......I'm am bein g very polite....and have not sworn as much as I could have done....I have bitten my tongue long enough and now feel I'm am so pissed off that I have to write this.

Jez (emma)


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 07 Apr 02 - 08:32 PM

Had a knee replaced last week in September, 2001. Have been functioning virtually normally after 6 weeks. If you need it, get it.


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 07 Apr 02 - 09:20 PM

Cats PHiddle, just igniore the Guest, he (I assume it;s a he) is just an arsehole trying to make trouble.Red the whole thread and just concentrate on the usefule bits.


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Apr 02 - 09:28 PM

On the other hand he may be giving you a much needed piece of advice. Watch your diet, and include meals with lots of calcium enriched foods. Just because someone is hard on you doesnt make them arseholes. You asked, and now when people respond you dont like it... Of course there are much better responses like "I need a hug threads" if thats all you are looking for.


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 08 Apr 02 - 07:49 AM

that's not all she was looking for thank you. She was looking for advice on how to deal with replacements.

We have just found out from a friend that some Chinese people cannot withstand lactose uless it is fermented in the form or yoghurts or cheese etc....and as her dad is from Hong Kong and is also lactose intolerant this is probably why she cannot take un fermented lactose.

This thread is here for advice...and saying she should have drank her milk as a child and that it is her own fault is not advice....it's just hurtful comments that don't need to be wrote.

JeZeBeL on catsPHiddles cookie


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: radriano
Date: 08 Apr 02 - 11:27 AM

I will have both hips replaced eventually because I was born with both hips dislocated. While hip surgery has advanced a lot most of the work done is on older folks. For young people the problem becomes one of how long will the replacement hip last. There is also a big difference between replacing a normal hip that has gone bad and my situation which involves the worst possible scenario with regard to surgery. Try and talk to others who have had the type of surgery you will get.

Best of luck to you, catsphiddle.

Richard


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: GUEST,jeffesh
Date: 08 Apr 02 - 01:22 PM

I haven't had a hip replacement, but I had an inline skating accident in 1996 when I was 30 and broke my hip. I had surgery and have a pin and a plate in there. I did everything the doctor said and have healed fine. Last November I even ran a marathon! I don't fell 100 percent the same as I did before the accident, but I find that the more active I stay, the less the hip bothers me. Good luck, cat!.


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 09 Apr 02 - 04:30 AM

Hi Cat, This is Jon's Mum (retired Physioterrorist) Sorry to hear of your problems, have you seen the Consultant yet? I should wait and see what he or she has to say first before you presume on hip replacements. Had the physio. seen your X-rays? Gait assessments are very sophisticated nowadays and will be a good indication of your problems.

The comment made by your friend Tig was interesting and quite telling, it seemed to indicate that you have had problems with your hips since birth and have been involved with doctors before. Congenital abnormalities of joints could have a different approach. Just an idea.

Whatevever the problem is you are very young to have to put up with it, with all the pain and worries involved. I wish you all the best, and I'll be interested to know what the consultant says about it all.


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 09 Apr 02 - 02:47 PM

Went to physio yesterday and they hurt me. The 'nice' lady had to give up in the end because of the pain. I have been given some simple exercises to to do until I see the consultant which is going to be a while as (understandabley) there is a waiting list. Because my hips are not alligned my feet dont lie flat on the floor, if I put my feet flat then my whole leg from my hip is turned inwards and is more painful. We will have to wait and see what the consultant says.

Thanx again for all the advice and support.

Cat x


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: GUEST,Mr Red
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 10:54 AM

Neatsfoot oil
It's an old Black Country folk cure - though "paliative" is more accurate.
rub on the affected joints or broken bones and it reduces the pain, though this is relative - I find it difficult to judge changes as you get used to norms. A little goes a long way and what I find is that the skin takes on a little shine and water runs off it as if the oil is keeping moisture out. When in need I rub on 2 or 3 times a day especially 1st & last thing. The best sort is from an equestrian centre & I keep a small bottle or two of it for the car & suitcase etc. Do not buy from a chemist - their variety stinks (even though it was an apothecary wot told me about it).
AND if are a bodhran player it can come in handy to oil the skin - though Marcus Music advised against it to me.
Anyway it works for me and at £3 a tin lasting 6 months not an expensive experiment.
let us know if you try it - or pester me for some oil at Upton FF (Mayday BH w/e) you'll know its me!


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 11 Apr 02 - 10:21 AM

Hip and Knee joints usually have to be replaced because they become too stiff. ESSEX GIRL would like me to have something else replaced (roughly between the two) because it doesn't get stiff enough these days !
Life's a bitch.


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Subject: RE: HELP: Hip and Knee replacements.
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 11 Apr 02 - 03:39 PM

Erm Dave.........you can tablets for that these days.........I think they are blue.......need I say more??!!!LOL!!!


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