Is Mudcat slow right now?

Subject: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: GUEST,Paul
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 02:20 PM

Mudcat is as slow as treacle here, right now.

Do other people have the same problem, or is it an issue at my end?

Paul

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 02:33 PM

its always slow for me

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: Don Firth
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 02:35 PM

No, it's slow. Monday and Tuesday I wasn't able to get in at all, so this the first time since then. Even today, when I try to refresh the screen or bring up a particular thread, I get "Time out" error messages. One of the servers is either dead or very sick. I think Max is working on it.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: Jeri
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 02:44 PM

It seems normal here. Dial-up connection, so nothing's ever very fast anyway.

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: Jeri
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 02:48 PM

Of course, after I wrote that I tried the www.mudcat.org address, and it DOES seem slower. Try http://ragtime.mudcat.org

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: catspaw49
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 02:53 PM

Ever since I went to the Cable Modem I don't get much difference.......But if it gets slow to me then I can about guarantee that dial-ups are timing out. Today seems about average.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: Mudlark
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 03:03 PM

I often run into this....the first maybe 2K will load, and then I'm left with a blank white screen. Sometimes I play solitaire while waiting, sometimes in vain, for the rest to load. I'm always thankful that it DOES come back, sooner or later!

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 03:14 PM

YES, much slower !!!

Also, I cannot refresh to see more days on this forum. I ALWAYS get three days-----no matter what I set it to.

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: MMario
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 03:14 PM

I have problems about 3 pm mudcat time every day - but I think that's a general thing with the internet.

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: artbrooks
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 03:20 PM

Depends on the time of day, but that seems to be the governing factor.

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: Don Firth
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 03:35 PM

I've got to hook up to cable. While waiting for things to load, I've become a Grand Master at Minesweeper, Expert Level (flirting with carpal tunnel syndrome).

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: katlaughing
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 03:50 PM

no problem here with cable hookup, too

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: Ebbie
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 04:07 PM

No problem here. The times I have noticed its slowness is on weekends in the middle of the afternoon, Alaska time. I figure that I and 3 million, 202, 04 other people are all trying to get on...

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 06:40 PM

Seems far far slower than normal the past few days, even when I'm on it at times when people over in America would be asleep for the most part.

I'll be on the Cat, and suddenly it won't open up a thread, and I go back and try coming in again on a different server, and maybe the only server that works is http://207.103.108.101/threads.cfm, which won't allow cookies, and that's slow as slow for opening up even relatively short threads.

I started a thread about this on the Help forum, which seems to be working at the normal speed.

I've got used to the times when the whole Cat goes down, and quite value them in a way, because it encourages me to catch up on other stuff, and is a reminder that I shouldn't take this marvel for granted - but this seesm a bit diferrent.

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: Gareth
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 06:53 PM

Slow - I've seen Liverpool Dockers (longshore workers)move faster.

Gareth

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 07:00 PM

So that would be a 'Yes' Gareth?

Appears that our finacial contributions aren't making much difference?

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: Gareth
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 07:04 PM

Don't know - but it seems that Anon Guest ain't making much contribution.

Gareth

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 07:06 PM

For good reason

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: Gareth
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 07:13 PM

Ah sorry - I'd forgotten - parasites only leach on thier host.

"Anon Guest" - Mudcatters verion of the Tick.

Gareth

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: GUEST,McGrath of Harlow
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 07:24 PM

Just happened again.

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 07:50 PM

And now the other servers are back again, and I can get my cookie back. You can't have a cookie, it seems, on 207.103.108.101 - when you try to log in again, it accepts you, but then shunts you on to one of the servers that isn't working. At least that's what seems to happen to me.

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: Jeri
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 07:52 PM

If you want to get an idea how long it takes you to get TO Mudcat, you can try tracing the route. In Windows, go to Start, select Run and type "tracert www.mudcat.org" (without quotation marks). I find that this usually shows me I get hung up somewhere along the way unless Mudcat is down or is in the process of going down.

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 08:04 PM

Kevin, you can get your cookie back on http 107 whatsit, if you click on membership and reset cookie and resubmit password. At least that's what I do. Interestingly, though, I don't think you can start a new thread by that route, without it being a GUEST posting.

Murray

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 08:16 PM

Well it worked that time, but the previous times've tried, it just froze on me.

That tracert thing of Jeri throws up some intriguing figures and such, but I haven't the foggiest idea what they mean.

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 08:41 PM

Ping or tracert are fun. Here are a few sites to try.

www.mudcat.org
loki.mudcat.org
ragtime.mudcat.org
jah.onstagemedia.com
matilda.onstagemedia.com
charlie.onstagemedia.com
help.mudcat.org
www.onstagemedia.com
dev.mudcat.org

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 08:43 PM

anyone finding it slow should get an ISDN or DSL line, move to Hull, we have our own phone.company here (Kinston Comunications) and they are much cheaper than BT.

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: Genie
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 08:54 PM

Yeah, it's been exceptionally slow for me this week. But, then, so am I about getting a check sent to Max to help the 'Cat. So I guess turn about's fair play.

Genie

PS
Max, the check's not in the mail--yet --, but it will be shortly.

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 09:07 PM

its been really really slow here. i thought it was bacause all the kiddywinks have recently broken up for the school summer holidays, consequently far more net users in action for more hours of the day.

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 10:52 PM

SLOW? - why resort to euphemisms?

Its become a gathering of belching, drooling, short-shiting retards - if you ask me.

Conections in the states are just fine.

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 10:58 PM

It has just gone to Hull

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: Sorcha
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 11:45 PM

I do have cable hook up, and yes, it has been slow. Max warned us that it might be; remember? Matilda died and the others have had to take over her functions. Sometimes I get in instantly (as it should be with cable) but other times I can play 2 games of Sol while waiting. Early morning and late night (my time) seem to be the easiest for me regardless of which server I try.

About 10 AM Mountain time it starts timing out or taking forever. Sometimes even when I manage to get on the Cat, the chosen thread will take 2 games of Sol to load. Usually I just give up and go clean something instead. It's good for the house that way (BG)

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: Big Mick
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 12:12 AM

I have not noticed any slowdowns.

Mick

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 01:57 AM

Most sites (or their provider) keep stats and make the current ones available to the public....so the users can plan their best usage for off-peak-hours.

An example of such old data can be found at:

http://www.mudcat.org/stats

Sincerely,

Gargoyle

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 07:27 AM

Well, I couldn't find anything on gargoyle's link. Not that I'm organised enough to use stuff like that.

In any case I know the hours when the American use of the net is likely to be low, which is the thing that can make a real difference.

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: Max
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 09:11 AM

I've been putting a lot of work in on the servers since Sunday which is slowing things down. I probably have another week or so of stuff to do before I can achieve the final goal which is more reliability and speed. Ragtime is now doing what Matilda did, so it is not serving the Mudcat anymore. ragtime.mudcat.org also goes to Shorty. I have a new server almost ready to roll, but have a dilemma. Apparently the motherboard was recalled by Intel. When the memory maxs out, the system reboots. As Intel says "The issue is with the Memory Translator Hub component that can cause some systems to intermittently reset, reboot or hang." That may seem reasonable, or even helpful, but I am hesitant to accept that that is any good for the long term. Plus Intel says "In addition, the issue can, under extreme conditions, potentially cause corruption". Problem is that Intel will only send me a monetary credit once I send them the motherboard. So I have to wait for that before I can get the server running or put up the cash for a new motherboard and wait for Intel's check. In the end though, Shorty will soon be able to retire to the sunny state of mirror/backup server.


An update on Matilda. It seems that the primary hard drive has a physical error, just got old or too hot (big heat waves here of late). Finally wrestled her to boot, but the data that I want on her drives is stuck in a software RAID configuration that was destroyed in the crash. In English, that means there are 4 hard drives that Windows NT doesn't understand. Those 4 hard drives stored 6 years of development, documents, backups, MP3's and all the things I wanted to keep forever. We did this because Matilda was backed up every week or so until our backup tape drive died over a year ago. Not giving up yet…

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 11:40 AM

McGrath - sorry the link connection has been closed.

and does not work anymore. BUT IF you had been able to connect through itec100.voicenet.com VoiceNet (NETBLK-VOICENET-C1) VOICENET-C1 207.103.0.0 - 207.103.255.255 Lasalle College High School

You would have found a plethora of statistics (I've cut much of it out) such as the following data - with most illustrated in colorful-nifty bar charts to indicate facinating trivia about the the traffic on the site. Which can raise curious questions like the use of the California Department of Water Resources server being the second most common access point??? - but the explanation is Joe's govt work....and the Lloyd's-chemist???? is a Joe clone.

The following is only an edited example.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Summary of Activity for Mudcat.org Report Period

This section outlines general server activity, comparing the level of activity on weekdays and weekends. The Average Number of Users and Hits on Weekdays are the averages for each individual week day. The Average Number of Users and Hits for Weekends groups Saturday and Sunday together. Values in the table do not include erred hits.

Summary of Activity for Report Period
Average Number of Users per day on Weekdays 6,210
Average Number of Hits per day on Weekdays 57,578
Average Number of Users for the entire Weekend 12,042
Average Number of Hits for the entire Weekend 127,860
Most Active Day of the Week Tue
Least Active Day of the Week Thu
Most Active Day Ever July 20, 2002
Number of Hits on Most Active Day 122,051
Least Active Day Ever November 22, 2001
Number of Hits on Least Active Day 4,030

Activity Level by Day of the Week
Day Hits % of Total Hits User Sessions
1 Sun 170,812 13.78% 12,448
2 Mon 183,839 16.32% 13,640
3 Tue 189,177 17.36% 13,672
4 Wed 182,523 16.07% 13,309
5 Thu 139,543 7.7% 6,679
6 Fri 180,706 15.71% 12,807
7 Sat 166,909 13.02% 10,637
Total Weekdays 875,788 73.18% 42,107
Total Weekend 497,721 26.81% 16,085

General Statistics
Date & Time This Report was Generated Wednesday July 28, 2002 - 00:10:52
Timeframe 07/09/01 00:00:00 - 07/22/01 23:59:59
Number of Hits for Home Page 18,442
Number of Successful Hits for Entire Site 813,509
Number of Page Views (Impressions) 464,363
Number of User Sessions 98,192
User Sessions from United States 64.39%
International User Sessions 19.52%
User Sessions of Unknown Origin 16.08%
Average Number of Hits Per Day 36,679
Average Number of Page Views Per Day 18,883
Average Number of User Sessions Per Day 4,156
Average User Session Length 00:13:19

Most Active Countries

This section identifies the top locations of the visitors to the site by country. The country of the user is determined by the suffix of their domain name. Use this information carefully because this information is based on where the domain name of the visitor is registered, and may not always be an accurate identifier of the actual geographic location of this visitor (for example, while a vast majority of .com domain names are from the United States, there is a small minority of domain names that exist outside of the United States.)

Most Active Countries
Countries User Sessions
1 United States 57,473
2 UK 6,174
3 Canada 2,806
4 Australia 2,666
5 Germany 543
6 Japan 513
7 Netherlands 302
8 New Zealand (Aotearoa) 283
9 Norway 262
10 France 229
11 Belgium 202
12 Ireland 191
13 Italy 175
14 Sweden 147
15 GB 138
16 Hong Kong 132
17 Spain 118
18 Austria 107
19 Finland 92
20 Switzerland 82
21 Denmark 79
22 Taiwan 72
23 Brazil 69
24 Poland 55
25 Mexico 54
26 Saudi Arabia 52
27 Singapore 50
28 Israel 42
29 Portugal 37
30 Iceland 36
31 Hungary 35
32 Argentina 34
33 Russian Federation 33
34 Czech Republic 30
35 Malaysia 30
36 Greece 26
37 Indonesia 22
38 South Africa 20
39 Chile 19
40 Thailand 18
41 Philippines 13
42 Arab Emirates, United 12
43 Estonia 11
44 Croatia (Hrvatska) 10
45 Korea (South) 8
46 Costa Rica 7
47 India 6
48 Romania 6
49 Slovak Republic 6
50 Bulgaria 5
Total 48,762

Top Users
User Hits % of Total Hits User Sessions
1 209.73.228.163 9,080 1.76% 26
2 fldjoc56.water.ca.gov 3,577 0.69% 3
3 inktomi2-bagu.server.ntl.com 2,885 0.56% 52
4 csto-1397.communicomm.com 2,699 0.52% 83
5 proxy1.lloyds-chemists.co.uk 2,121 0.41% 19
6 syr-66-66-4-69.twcny.rr.com 1,976 0.38% 57
7 ts01.ocv.ne.jp 1,831 0.35% 47
8 dhcp26155051.columbus.rr.com 1,809 0.35% 90
9 ts04.ocv.ne.jp 1,680 0.32% 42
10 inktomi1-mid.server.ntl.com 1,376 0.26% 83
Subtotal for Users Above 29,034 5.65% 502
Total 513,509 100% 58,192

Organization Breakdown

This section provides a breakdown by types of organizations (.com, .net, .edu, .org, .mil, and .gov.) This information can only be displayed if reverse DNS lookups have been performed.

Organization Breakdown
Organization Hits % of Total Hits User Sessions
1 Company 183,629 50.92% 26,364
2 Network 141,412 39.21% 12,782
3 Education 22,725 6.3% 1,863
4 Government 5,947 1.64% 191
5 Organization 3,862 1.07% 369
6 Military 2,606 0.72% 212
7 Arpanet 381 0.1% 56
8 International 19 0% 5
Total 360,581 100% 41,842

This report was generated by WebTrends

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 11:52 AM

Wow! Thanks, Gargoyle!

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 12:21 PM

Interesting guess, Gargoyle, but Joe has done no government work for over a year, and his government computer never had Internet access. In fact, my government job didn't even provide me an office after 1994 - I worked out of my home. Except when I'm traveling and using library computers or my dad's WEBTV, I use Microsoft Network.
I moved to the mountains in January, and went from a 56k connection to 28.8. Actually, Mudcat doesn't seem any slower this way. Generally, the speed seems to be reasonable - but there are slowdowns at times.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 12:30 PM

Thanks for the update, Max. Good luck on retrieving your data.

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: Noreen
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 12:41 PM

Why is GB at 15, separate from UK at 2? Or does GB stand for something other than Great Britain?

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 03:29 PM

It wasn't a complaint from me, Max, it was concern that something untoward might be happening.

That kind of stuff gargoyle gives is interesting enough in its way, I suppose, if that is the sort of stuff one is interested in. I imagine, if someone was running a business type website and wanted to tailor it to attract people in Outer Mongolia as well as San Francisco and Huddersfield, it might conceivably have some kind of practical value.

Subject: RE: Is Mudcat slow right now?
From: vectis
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 06:45 PM

A dead Matilda and no ragtime.....that's what's wrong!!!!!
I'm away festivalling for three weeks or so. Good luck Max, hope all is sorted when I come back.