Lyrics & Knowledge Personal Pages Record Shop Auction Links Radio & Media Kids Membership Help
The Mudcat Cafesj

Post to this Thread - Printer Friendly - Home
Page: [1] [2] [3]


Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni

Related threads:
Lyr Add: Solstice songs! (38)
Summer Solstice songs? (27)
Wonderful Winter solstice gathering songs (24)
Lyr Req: Winter Solstice Song for families. (4)
Solstice on the 21 of December (26)
Songs for the Winter Solstice (86)
Songs about Christmas/Solstice at sea. (43)
Lyr Req: Wonderful Songs for the Winter Solstice (3) (closed)
Solstice blessings - The Shortest Day (Cooper) (23)
Winter Solstice (15)
Lyr Req: Winter solstice songs wanted (22)
Winter Solstice Play/Pageant (15)
solstice songs (19)
Lyr Req: Summer Solstice songs (8)
Lyr/Chords Req: Songs for Hanukkah and solstice (16)
Folklore: Celebrating the Winter Solstice (48)
BS: How do u celebrate midwinter godlessly? (77)
Easy-to-learn Solstice songs needed NOW! (19)
Lyr Add: Solstice Bells (9)
BS: Solstice stories (9)
S. Calif Solstice Festival (3)
A happy winter solstice. (25) (closed)
Lyr Add: interesting solstice/Christian song (7)
Tune Req: Winter Solstice Songs (23)
Merry Solstice Fun - Here Comes the Sun! (30)
BS: Site for Winter Solstice Sight (7) (closed)
Solstice performance (Peg's new group!) (20)
Lyr Req: Preschool solstice songs (23)
Blessings at Solstice (31)
Lyr Req: solstice song (2)
Solstice Moon Was Gorgeous!! (16)
Summer Solstice? (12)
Winter Solstice Wishes (8)
Lyr/Tune Add: The Longest Night (Solstice round) (2)


In Mudcat MIDIs:
Raise up Your Voices


katlaughing 26 Jun 05 - 03:21 AM
Haruo 26 Jun 05 - 02:01 AM
Barbara 12 May 05 - 04:27 PM
CapriUni 11 May 05 - 07:43 PM
Barbara 11 May 05 - 07:27 PM
Haruo 11 May 05 - 04:57 PM
CapriUni 11 May 05 - 03:06 PM
GUEST,Willow Firesong 11 May 05 - 01:03 PM
Genie 15 Dec 02 - 09:08 PM
CapriUni 15 Dec 02 - 07:11 PM
Genie 10 Dec 02 - 03:34 AM
CapriUni 09 Dec 02 - 11:18 PM
Genie 09 Dec 02 - 07:53 PM
CapriUni 09 Dec 02 - 12:24 PM
Genie 09 Dec 02 - 03:40 AM
CapriUni 08 Dec 02 - 11:55 PM
Áine 08 Dec 02 - 11:23 PM
Genie 08 Dec 02 - 10:13 PM
CapriUni 08 Dec 02 - 06:04 PM
Áine 08 Dec 02 - 02:24 PM
CapriUni 08 Dec 02 - 12:06 AM
Genie 07 Dec 02 - 09:34 PM
Áine 07 Dec 02 - 08:24 PM
CapriUni 21 Nov 02 - 09:06 PM
Genie 21 Nov 02 - 08:46 PM
CapriUni 21 Nov 02 - 12:52 PM
Genie 21 Nov 02 - 11:40 AM
CapriUni 21 Nov 02 - 09:56 AM
mg 21 Nov 02 - 02:30 AM
CapriUni 20 Nov 02 - 10:50 AM
GUEST,Haruo 19 Nov 02 - 06:18 PM
CapriUni 19 Nov 02 - 11:23 AM
Genie 19 Nov 02 - 09:24 AM
mmb 19 Nov 02 - 01:11 AM
Haruo 18 Nov 02 - 11:49 PM
CapriUni 18 Nov 02 - 11:38 PM
Genie 18 Nov 02 - 11:36 PM
Haruo 18 Nov 02 - 11:31 PM
Genie 18 Nov 02 - 11:08 PM
Haruo 18 Nov 02 - 10:23 PM
CapriUni 15 Nov 02 - 05:12 PM
Genie 15 Nov 02 - 04:25 PM
CapriUni 15 Nov 02 - 02:35 PM
MMario 15 Nov 02 - 08:46 AM
Genie 15 Nov 02 - 03:30 AM
CapriUni 14 Nov 02 - 10:06 PM
Genie 14 Nov 02 - 09:31 PM
CapriUni 14 Nov 02 - 08:20 PM
Genie 14 Nov 02 - 07:22 PM
Barbara 14 Nov 02 - 04:04 PM
Share Thread
more
Lyrics & Knowledge Search [Advanced]
DT  Forum Child
Sort (Forum) by:relevance date
DT Lyrics:













Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Jun 05 - 03:21 AM

I think separate threads would be good, too, CU. Good to see this, again!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Haruo
Date: 26 Jun 05 - 02:01 AM

I see Barry T's MIDI is no longer found at the Shaw.ca address he used above. If you see this, Barry, could you post it again or email me a copy?

Haruo


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Barbara
Date: 12 May 05 - 04:27 PM

Why don't you post them separately and then provide us with a blicky here? TIA
Blessings,
Barbara


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: CapriUni
Date: 11 May 05 - 07:43 PM

I was wondering if I should post them here, or under a new thread, since Oestra is a different Sabbat, and folks looking for Spring Equinox songs probably wouldn't search for them under Yule...

I was also contemplating doing a thread for a few of my short-short, almost-chant Pagan songs, after I edit them a bit. I could put the variation there, too...

So many decisions!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Barbara
Date: 11 May 05 - 07:27 PM

Then you all might be interested in the way Anne rewrote her lyrics for an Oestara celebration that we had. Thanks again, Anne, and what do you say to posting them here?
Blessings,
Barbara


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Haruo
Date: 11 May 05 - 04:57 PM

I'm putting together a Christmas Carol Collection for my siblings and cousins' "Cousins' Christmas" get-together (a staple of my wife's family) and am planning on including your carol, Ann. We're a religiously eclectic lot.

Haruo


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: CapriUni
Date: 11 May 05 - 03:06 PM

Hey, Willow (I was wondering who'd renewed this thread after all this time)! Thanks for the information on the your sites.

I'll pass the info on to some Pagan friends. It's far from Yule, here, but it's fast approaching, south of the equator)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: GUEST,Willow Firesong
Date: 11 May 05 - 01:03 PM

Sorry about the popups -- when I signed up with Tripod, it didn't have the ad policy currently in place, which (frankly) is so obnoxious that even *I* don't like to use that version of my site.

You'll be happy to know that I now have a mirror version of the original site on my private server, at http://willow.creative-interweb.com/old_site/YulCarls/ -- but even better, I've updated the Carol Collection, and made it database driven, so that it's now about half again as large, and fully searchable. You can find the new version (the only one being actively updated) at:
http://willow.creative-interweb.com/library/songbook/carols/

Thanks for recommending my site, and again, my apologies about the popups. I've been planning on replacing the site with redirects to the fully ad-free version, but so far, other things have kept me too busy. For now, you have the direct link, which is even better. :)

Best wishes,


Willow Firesong
willow.firesong@bigfoot.com or
willow.firesong@creative-interweb.com


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: Raise All Your Voices -Solstice song from CapriUni
From: Genie
Date: 15 Dec 02 - 09:08 PM

Well, I like the harmony, but mainly I like the rhythm (phrasing). (Actually, as you know, I sing the whole song with a little more syncopation, as in the MIDI I sent you.)

Genie


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: CapriUni
Date: 15 Dec 02 - 07:11 PM

PS, I still like Barry Finn's MIDI above, with harmony, better than the one in the Mudcat MIDIs.

Is that because it has the harmony, or because it has the original rhythm (before I tried to do a complicated "fix")?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Genie
Date: 10 Dec 02 - 03:34 AM

I have no idea why that post ended up in boldface.

Yeah, Ann, I'm curious as to what MIDIs are supposed to go where, too.

Genie

PS, I still like Barry Finn's MIDI above, with harmony, better than the one in the Mudcat MIDIs.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: CapriUni
Date: 09 Dec 02 - 11:18 PM

Yes, I checked there, too... that's why I asked.

What I'm wondering is whether Alan's midi page is in the process of being replaced by the one in quick links, or whether they compliment each other.

Anyone?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Genie
Date: 09 Dec 02 - 07:53 PM

Ann, I checked http://www.mudcat.org/alanofoz/ and neither my song nor yours is among the MIDIs. This is the page that asks folks to send MIDIs to Alison, Alan, or Joe Offer.

I find both songs when I go to the Quick Links and select "Mudcat MIDIs" from that menu.

Thus, I assume they are two different collections of MIDIs, though I'm not sure if they overlap.

Genie


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: CapriUni
Date: 09 Dec 02 - 12:24 PM

Well, we needed this inspiring song of celebration in Aine's new category (especially since the MIDI was already there all by itself!).

A question about that: the midi page Áine has linked to in her song book is not the same page that has the song. So is Alan's midi page:

a) redundant, or
b) different enough from "The Mudcat Midis" page (in the quick links) to warant the tune being in two places at once?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Genie
Date: 09 Dec 02 - 03:40 AM

Well, we needed this inspiring song of celebration in Aine's new category (especially since the MIDI was already there all by itself!).

Our gracious "Goddess" has been overburdened (in true Sisyphus fashion) this past year, so she needs a few 'stool pigeons' out there to help tattle on songwriters who are hiding in various forum threads.

§;-D


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: CapriUni
Date: 08 Dec 02 - 11:55 PM

Thanks, Áine!

Thanks, Little Bird ;-)

"Cheer-up, cheerily, cheerily, cheerily!"


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Áine
Date: 08 Dec 02 - 11:23 PM

There ya go, CapriUni! ;-) It's in the Book!!

And you just keep chirrrrping, lil' bird! *BG*

All the best, Áine


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Genie
Date: 08 Dec 02 - 10:13 PM

Chirrrrp! ;-)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: CapriUni
Date: 08 Dec 02 - 06:04 PM

Please do email me the lyrics (doireanne@yahoo.com)

On their way...

but send the midi file to alan in Australia . . . at least I think he's still the Master of the Mudcat Midi Page . . .

Hmmm. I sent the midi file that's linked at the top of this thread to MMario... I'll pm all three... And let you know...


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Áine
Date: 08 Dec 02 - 02:24 PM

Dear Ann,

Yee-Haw!!! The Keeper of the Book scores another great song for the Tome!! *BG*

Please do email me the lyrics (doireanne@yahoo.com); but send the midi file to alan in Australia . . . at least I think he's still the Master of the Mudcat Midi Page . . . But, on second thought, maybe Pene Azul (a/k/a Jeff) is the new Master now. I guess you'll have to PM them both to find out (and then please let me know, OK?)

Thanks to you, CapriUni, and that sweet singing' lil bird that let me know where to find your sweet song, Áine


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: CapriUni
Date: 08 Dec 02 - 12:06 AM

Ann, I think the MIDI that Jeri posted before has the timing right on the last line.

Actually, I've already sent a revised version off to Barbara, for inclusion in the Folknik newsletter... I decided that the simplest solution for the last line would be best.

Really, it was only the word "sweet" that was causing all the problems, so I simply dropped it. I kept the rhythm and timing the same for the last line, but just changed the lyrics to:

(Using your notation system, it's:

RAISE ALL YOUR/VOIC-ES let a/SONG FILL THE /AIR!/

Which is very close to the first version of the melody, excpt that measure #7 (/out of the/) and #11 (/dance, it goes/) both have the rhythm of dotted quarter, eighth, quarter....

Oh dear... have I posted that version of the final tweak, or not? I've lost track.

And yes, Áine, please do post this in the songbook... I've been meaning to send it to you, but I was getting ready for an Art Garden night (same venue I wrote "Child of the Spirits" for), and since then, I've been recovering... and it rather slipped my mind... should I email you the lyrics and midi?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Genie
Date: 07 Dec 02 - 09:34 PM

Ann, I think the MIDI that Jeri posted before has the timing right on the last line.

It would be /...SO / RAISE ALL YOUR /VOI-CES, fill the /AIR with sweet / SONG/,
where lower case = eighth note, UPPER CASE = quarter note, Upper case underscored = half note, and upper case, underscored, bold = dotted half note.

Genie


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Áine
Date: 07 Dec 02 - 08:24 PM

Hey Ann,

That is a great song -- Don't know how I missed seeing this thread (but then, I've been in and out and away with the little people on occasion these past few months *BG*) . . .

Anyways, a little bird whispered in my ear that this song should definitely be in the Mudcat Songbook, and I wholeheartedly agree! May I please have your permission to place it in the (lately renamed) Songs of Inspiration and Celebration category of the Book?

Here's hoping that you'll answer with a 'yes' ;-),

All the best, Áine


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: CapriUni
Date: 21 Nov 02 - 09:06 PM

I found it very hard to clap out a steady 3/4 beat while singing along with the MIDI on that last line.

Oh! :::Lightbulb clicks on:::

I didn't even consider clap-ability as a factor... but I'm not one to judge... I get tangled up trying to clap along to "Bingo (Was His Name-o!)"

Okay... So, assuming that Raise all your voices, may sweet song fill the air was the tag line for all four verses, how would you score that to fit a 3/4 time?

I hope this isn't coming across as snippy... I really am curious.

...or is it impossible?

Is this what we could call "music theory by the seat of your pants"?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Genie
Date: 21 Nov 02 - 08:46 PM

Well, Ann, it's your call. But I found it very hard to clap out a steady 3/4 beat while singing along with the MIDI on that last line. It's kinda like those pieces where your're singing in 3/4 while playing in 4/4 or vice versa. It's done, but it's not easy.

Genie


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: CapriUni
Date: 21 Nov 02 - 12:52 PM

Ann, the MIDI in the Mudcat MIDI section sounds good, but it has one mistake. To fit the rhythm of the song the words "...fill the..." in the last line of each verse need to be eighth notes

Actually, that's not a mistake... I made that change deliberately, and sent an updated version to MMario (after posting the change here, to see if it sounded right to others).

For the longest time, I couldn't figure out why people kept telling me there was an extra beat in the last line ("Raise all your voices, may sweet song fill the air."). Then (after singing the song over, and over, and over, both with and without the "extra" syllable) I realized that I was naturally singing the song in the rhythm as it is now -- or something very, very close to it. What I'm actually singing, on the three syllables of "...voic-es, fill..." (and "...voic-es, may...") is: quarter note--dotted eighth note--sixteenth rest--quarter note.

But that looks really fussy and confusing on a score, particularly if it's to be printed out and handed around to people at a holiday sing-along where not everyone is comfortable reading music. Depending on what instrument patch you stick at the beginning of the staff, the difference between the rhythm as I outlined it above and three quarter notes is barely noticable... so for print-out, I opted for the simpler-looking version, trusting any would-be singer to use the score only as a guide, and sing it in a way that comes naturally out of her or his mouth...


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Genie
Date: 21 Nov 02 - 11:40 AM

Ann, the MIDI in the Mudcat MIDI section sounds good, but it has one mistake. To fit the rhythm of the song the words "...fill the..." in the last line of each verse need to be eighth notes (and they are in Barry's MIDI and in the sheet music that Jeri posted).  In the Mudcat MIDI they are played as quarter notes, and it throws the rhythm off.  Maybe M. Mario can fix that.

Jeri ("...this is where I go into nit-picking mode - the B's in the 2nd track sound a bit odd when they come up against the C's in the 3rd. You've got to sneak some 'illegal' stuff in and most times the ear will be fooled into not hearing the naughty notes. It may just be me that's hearing it.")
I know that some chords sound dissonant-- especially on a piano--, but they are often used in choral music.  It's not at all unusual in our church choir to have a B and a C sung together at some point in the piece.
Interestingly, one song I wrote and recorded in 3-part harmony sounds really harmonious when I play the standard guitar chords (C, F, G, Am) and sing the three countermelodies together.  But when I plug those same countermelodies into the computer and they're played back with a simulated (sampled?) piano, some "chords" sound dissonant in an unpleasant way.
(If you get the Strawberry CD you can see what I mean.  The only sour note in the song is one place where I went flat on a harmony part while recording because I couldn't hear myself.  If anything, the harmonies themselves are almost too "sweet," to use Amos's term.  The countermelodies work well when sung together, though some of the harmony notes are "out of the chord.")

Is this an unusual phenomenon?
 

Ann,  ( is there a way to save Finale files as midis, the way you can with Noteworthy?)  Not with the freebie Notepad, but NotePad Plus ($25) and it lets you save a file as sheet music and/or MIDI, as well as play back MIDIs.

Genie


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: CapriUni
Date: 21 Nov 02 - 09:56 AM

well, speaking of sign language..this is how ignorant I am..I saw some kids on the bus signing and I think their first language is Spanish..so I thought..gee, wonder if they are signing that in Spanish or English...but I guess it is universal..??? Or is it? I guess when you spell it out it would be in your own language...

Well, that depends.... Some schools for the deaf (deaf -- with a lower case "d" -- refers only to not being able to hear, but with a capital "D" refers to the culture) make it a point to teach deaf people to pass, as much as possible, as hearing, and those schools tend to insist on Signed Exact English. where they take signed vocabulary and make it fit Englisg grammar and syntax (or I suppose, Spanish).

But sign language is a language in its own right, with it's own grammar and syntax that is spacially-based instead of temporally based (depending on where a sign is executed in 3-d space, rather than on when a word appears in a certain order). It is not, however, universal... just like spoken language, there are different sign languages all over the world (and no, not all signs look like what they mean, but if you know their origin, you can see the logic... just like knowing the derivation of spoken words).

American Sign Language, is, in fact, more closely related to French Sign Language than British. This is because Thomas Gallaudet, who founded the first free school for the deaf in America, learned how to do it after finishing a trip to France, to see how they did it there, and since most kids who are deaf come from hearing families, they learn their language in school, rather than at home...

So now that I think about it, those boys were probably signing either ASL or SEE (Since Spanish kids are pushed to learn English in American schools, anyway)

Oh, and another tidbit -- babies who grow up with Deaf parents, sign clearly about about 5 months sooner than they can speak -- because the muscles of the hands develop sooner than the muscles in the tongue and mouth (and before they sign, they do hand versions of "goo-goo")... Which is why, if I ever have a baby, I'm not gonna wait for the hearing test at a year to start signing.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: mg
Date: 21 Nov 02 - 02:30 AM

well, speaking of sign language..this is how ignorant I am..I saw some kids on the bus signing and I think their first language is Spanish..so I thought..gee, wonder if they are signing that in Spanish or English...but I guess it is universal..??? Or is it? I guess when you spell it out it would be in your own language...

mg


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: CapriUni
Date: 20 Nov 02 - 10:50 AM

Well, Ann 'n' everybody, I have improved though not perfected the MIDI of my roommate's harmonization at the copy in "La Lilandejo". And I added a link to this thread, as well as a right-clickable link for those who may want a copy of the MIDI

Thank you, Haruo! I've right-clicked the file and will play around with it, later today (Got some non-sung writing to do... deadline is tomorrow!!!)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: GUEST,Haruo
Date: 19 Nov 02 - 06:18 PM

Well, Ann 'n' everybody, I have improved though not perfected the MIDI of my roommate's harmonization at the copy in La Lilandejo. And I added a link to this thread, as well as a right-clickable link for those who may want a copy of the MIDI.

Genie, yes, I got the Notepad music file you sent, but haven't had a chance to try it yet because I haven't had a chance to use the church computer, which is where I downloaded Finale to (I don't have Internet access at home, which is where I would prefer to work on such stuff). I'll certainly let you know as soon as I have anything to report.

Haruo (at the public library)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: CapriUni
Date: 19 Nov 02 - 11:23 AM

It will definitely be numbered among the tunes that are played from henceforth when I pull out all my Nowell Sing We Clear volumes to observe the Advent/Solstice season. Thank you for sharing it with us.

And thank you for playing it and passing it on. I don't mean to sound like a curmudgeon about this, and do the old whiney: "It's not like the Good Old Days, anymore!" routine...

But:

In my heart of hearts, I believe that the true spirit of the season is expressed through singing together (even more than going to church and/or Ritual Circle) -- even for the Deaf -- there's a different quality to signing a song then in signing ordinary conversation. There's something about singing that has a different energy than speach.

Perhaps it's because we're opening our bodies and minds to be resonant with all of existance... as though we're taking part in the Music of the Spheres. In speach, words (and the ideas they carry) are in tight, little discrete bundles. Speaking is the mode of the Ego -- the individual. Siniging is communal.

But these days, the habit seems to be (at least in my neighborhood) to put a CD on, and have it playing as auditory wall paper, while people talk over it... there's no joining in.

So, that's the idea I want spread around... whatever the religion being observed...


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Genie
Date: 19 Nov 02 - 09:24 AM

Life would be so much simpler if Bill 'n' Steve hadn't had that big ol' feud way back when, wouldn't it?

It's not just a Mac/Windows thing, though.  My sister's machine is Windows, and most of my Mudcat posts look the same on her machine as on my Macs, including the accent marks on names like Áine.

Speaking of MIDIS and sheet music, Haruo, did you get the Notepad sheet music I sent you?  I'm wondering about the process of makind MIDIS from Notepad files.
 

And, again, Ann, thanks for sharing your song.  It's a keeper.

Genie


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: mmb
Date: 19 Nov 02 - 01:11 AM

I've been intending to check this thread out ever since it appeared, and what a loss it would have been if I hadn't finally gotten around to it. It is lovely, Ann, and haunting, in the good sense of the word. It will definitely be numbered among the tunes that are played from henceforth when I pull out all my Nowell Sing We Clear volumes to observe the Advent/Solstice season. Thank you for sharing it with us.    M.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: mutatis mutandem
From: Haruo
Date: 18 Nov 02 - 11:49 PM

Thanks, Ann, I'll try doubling if I can't get the chords to calm down. And I'll try to replace the melody line with your latest version, mutatis mutandem.

Genie, no, your post still reads çine. I wrote Àine instead of Áine because I couldn't recall which was correct (actually, it may depend on the grammatical case, I suppose; Gaelic's that way) and Àine was what Ann had in the previous post you commented on, the one that you said came out as ¿ for you.

Haruo


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: CapriUni
Date: 18 Nov 02 - 11:38 PM

Haruo:

I've put a page illustrating my roommate's harmonization in La Lilandejo: "Raise All Your Voices". However, the midi has serious problems. I'll work on it tonight

I tried to reply to your message about that in PM, but the page died when I hit submit... so I'll give a shorter reply here: One thing I've noticed on some multi-part midis is that the melody line is doubled, by having it play on two tracks at once. Maybe that would help...

Genie: now Aine's name in your last post is coming up on my computer as and upside down "?" plus "ine."

Life would be so much simpler if Bill 'n' Steve hadn't had that big ol' feud way back when, wouldn't it? ;-)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Genie
Date: 18 Nov 02 - 11:36 PM

Yours came out fine, Haruo, except you used a grave accent, and I think çine uses an acute acccent. (Did her name come out OK on your computer just now?)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Haruo
Date: 18 Nov 02 - 11:31 PM

How does "Àine" look here, Genie? On your computer, I mean; Ann's latest looked okay from my vantage point.

Haruo


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Genie
Date: 18 Nov 02 - 11:08 PM

Ann, now Aine's name in your last post is coming up on my computer as and upside down "?" plus "ine." *G*


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Haruo
Date: 18 Nov 02 - 10:23 PM

I've put a page illustrating my roommate's harmonization in La Lilandejo: Raise All Your Voices. However, the midi has serious problems. I'll work on it tonight; maybe it'll sound better tomorrow. Oh, and Ann, I'll let Tim know about "out of" ;-) ...

Haruo


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: CapriUni
Date: 15 Nov 02 - 05:12 PM

I like it, Ann!

Good! It's not just me, then!

Yeah, I think this version sounds more balanced, rhythmically, and more "swingy" overall, if you know what I mean....

So, I'll submit an updated NWC file to MMario, and the lyrics to Àine or should I send her the midi, too?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Genie
Date: 15 Nov 02 - 04:25 PM

I like it, Ann!

Genie


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: CapriUni
Date: 15 Nov 02 - 02:35 PM

Okay, this is the last alteration I'll over up for your critique, I promise!

I think I may have solved scansion problems of the last line in a way that fits the rest of the song, too... more or less -- realizing that, unlike a midi, when a human sings, no two notes are of the exact same duration, even if the dots are exactly the same. So a midi will never sound exactly right, just durned close.

Give this a listen, and/or a test sing. If your reaction is: "Yeah! That's right!", this will be the version I'll submit to Àine's Mudcat Songbook, and to Barbera for inclusion in San Francisco Folk Music Club newsletter. If your reaction is a "No, not quite," or "Maybe...," then I'll submit the version that Jeri put up on her webpage. But either way, no more fiddling after this. Deal?

(Oh, and it was brought to my attention, second handedly, that "return back from" is incorrect grammar. Now, I don't think songs have to be as grammatically correct as an essay, but if you can do it right without spoiling the sound, than why not do so? So I changed "back from" to "out of")

RAISE ALL YOUR VOICES
By Ann Magill

Come gather together and sing with glad hearts.
Sing for the sun's return out of the dark.
The wheel, it is turning, the dance, it goes on.
So raise all your voices, fill the air with sweet song!

Oh, sing with the Goddess: "The world is reborn,
shin-ing as bright as the very first morn!"
The old year has ended. Let go of old wrongs
and raise all your voices, fill the air with sweet song!

Though winter will bring us cold nights and fierce wind,
know by this dawning that hardship will end.
And like the sun's rays, may our hearts all grow strong.
Come raise all your voices, fill the air with sweet song!

Give thanks to the Goddess, the sweet living Earth:
thanks for the cycle of death and rebirth.
She lives in our hearts, and the love that we share.
So raise all your voices, may sweet song fill the air!

MIDI file: song02.mid

Timebase: 192

Name: All voices
Text: By Ann Magill
Copyright: Copyright © 2002 by Ann Magill
TimeSig: 3/4 24 8
Start
0000 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 60 110 0160 0 60 000 0032 1 60 110 0160 0 60 000 0032 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 69 110 0160 0 69 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 65 110 0160 0 65 000 0032 1 67 110 0336 0 67 000 0048 1 60 110 0160 0 60 000 0032 1 62 110 0160 0 62 000 0032 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 65 110 0160 0 65 000 0032 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 62 110 0160 0 62 000 0032 1 60 110 0256 0 60 000 0032 1 62 110 0094 0 62 000 0002 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 62 110 0336 0 62 000 0048 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 69 110 0160 0 69 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 65 110 0160 0 65 000 0032 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 65 110 0256 0 65 000 0032 1 67 110 0094 0 67 000 0002 1 69 110 0160 0 69 000 0032 1 67 110 0336 0 67 000 0048 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 62 110 0160 0 62 000 0032 1 60 110 0160 0 60 000 0032 1 62 110 0160 0 62 000 0032 1 65 110 0160 0 65 000 0032 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 62 110 0160 0 62 000 0032 1 60 110 0256 0 60 000 0032 1 62 110 0094 0 62 000 0002 1 59 110 0160 0 59 000 0032 1 60 110 0336 0 60 000
End

This program is worth the effort of learning it.

To download the latest version of MIDItext and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

X:1
T:All voices
M:3/4
Q:1/4=120
K:C
E2G2C2|C2E2G2|G2A2G2|F2G4|C2D2E2|F2E2D2|C3DE2|
D4E2|G2G2A2|G2F2E2|F3GA2|G4E2|D2C2D2|F2E2E2|
D2C3D|B,2C7/2||


Replaced MidiText file with newer version 19 Nov 02. --JoeClone


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: MMario
Date: 15 Nov 02 - 08:46 AM

I think I fixed the midi though


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Genie
Date: 15 Nov 02 - 03:30 AM

I did check, Capri. Neither song is there yet. But çine is still trying to recover from that nasty back injury she got pushing boulders up the Moon On The Hill. We've gotta give her time.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: CapriUni
Date: 14 Nov 02 - 10:06 PM

I haven't checked the songbook recently. Is your song in it yet?

I don't know... I haven't checked either... ;-)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Genie
Date: 14 Nov 02 - 09:31 PM

Dunno about the songbook yet, but MMario is doing a MIDI, bless his heart! I sent the sheet music to çine, but I don't know if she has Finale. Anyway, I now have posted my lyrics and chords in the forum, here

   Raise Your Voices In The Song (Christmas)

not to be confused with your "Raise All Your Voices" Solstice carol, Capri.

I haven't checked the songbook recently. Is your song in it yet?


Genie


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: CapriUni
Date: 14 Nov 02 - 08:20 PM

Thanks, Ann (I think). My sister and I sang it together last night again, and I FINALLY got the rhythm just right, and her harmony is so great -- one of those times you could kick yourself for not having had the tape recorder going!

I think Jerry R. started a thread on that very topic, didn't he???

Meanwhile, I need to get a good tape recorder, that's easy to use...

BTW, have you heard back from Aine about getting your song into the songbook, yet?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Genie
Date: 14 Nov 02 - 07:22 PM

Thanks, Ann (I think). My sister and I sang it together last night again, and I FINALLY got the rhythm just right, and her harmony is so great -- one of those times you could kick yourself for not having had the tape recorder going!

FWIW, I find myself humming/singing YOUR carol, too!

Cheers,

Genie


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Winter Solstice Carol from CapriUni
From: Barbara
Date: 14 Nov 02 - 04:04 PM

Hi Ann,
Mary emailed me your carol, which made me realize why I'd bookmarked it it in the first place, it IS lovely, and can I use it in the San Francisco Folk Music Club newsletter? If so, my deadline is Dec 6, so I would need whatever you say your final version is by then.
Does it currently have a chorus? I'm not clear. And if the tune is different PM me, and I'll transcribe it or do whatever we need to do.
Also need to know if you prefer the plain a capella version (I think you said yes).
Blessings,
Barbara


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate
Next Page

  Share Thread:
More...

Reply to Thread
Subject:  Help
From:
Preview   Automatic Linebreaks   Make a link ("blue clicky")


Mudcat time: 12 May 10:08 PM EDT

[ Home ]

All original material is copyright © 2022 by the Mudcat Café Music Foundation. All photos, music, images, etc. are copyright © by their rightful owners. Every effort is taken to attribute appropriate copyright to images, content, music, etc. We are not a copyright resource.